Do any other guys feel like trying to find a girlfriend requires too much time and effort?

[Intothevoid666]

women really don’t seem to make this easy either. The amount of daily time and effort it takes to try and talk to women and get to know women is so high. And the amount of effort most women put into it is so low it makes me not even want to try. And it only makes sense to talk to as many women as possible because the turnover rate for dates is so low. It’s really frustrating and is starting to get kinda old I don't know.

[Dragonpurple]

It has never been easy for me, back in the 90's I would have to date someone for a year to even think about getting any sex, and by a year I mean like 5 dates a week and a massive time investment.

I've found that recently it is actually much easier than it was back then, but I'm going through a divorce now and women are hitting on me. No doubt due to my stability of being at the same job for 18 years, middle class and stable and they want that.

Does that mean I will ever get married again, unlikely but sure is fun to play the field for once and have options. Something I have never experienced before.

My standards are pretty reasonable to, I don't care if she has a kid or whatever, lots of guys have these high standards that exclude a lot of people, women do too, then they complain there is no one for them.

To state how easy it has been, soon as I filed for divorce and she moved out of my house, I found a girl online, we chatted for two weeks via text, met up and did it on our first and second dates.

Like WHOA... she is so sweet and we have it off really well. That NEVER would of happened in the 90's.

I have two more dates line up with two other women, as this first one we are just dating, not official. I let her know, I'm not ready for that and may never be and she was good with it. Seems I could have a relationship with her, but as I never plan to get married again, most I will ever do is live together.

[IMuser]

It really depends on what your situation is, if you are rich and healthy, you probably will have to put less effort (to get sex and physical stuff) BUT still you would need to devote a lot of time if you are looking for a partner (getting a girl who is into you and not your money/family/status)

Why women put less effort: it's because there are a shit ton of guys like us (food for thought: would we be happy if society had more females than males) and they have the luxury to put in low effort (and sometimes receive high output, like gifts and other material benefits).

Some factors can make this easier: often women above 30 would like to settle (thank/blame mother nature) so getting them to be your girlfriend may be easier than getting a girl in 20s. (especially if you are a guy in 20s). The weird thing is: if you hardly get attention in your 20s ABD are expected to know your stuff by 30 (I am talking about men), what are your even options?

Makes sense?

[VikingWarLord]

Focus on getting money, invest in crypto, it's real early, you'll be able to retire in a few years when Bitcoin hits a million per coin. When you're rich, you can get on wealthy man dating sites and your inbox will be full of b-tches wanting to get with you. If she's not chasing YOU, it's not worth it. Get your money and you'll never be without sex again.

[LZPanzer]

I think it's quite easy. I don't have to do anything. I'm too ugly for them to even swipe right on. I've gone months and years without talking to a potential partner.

[LZPanzer]

It's hard to start a relationship when you got nobody willing to listen to you.

[DarkWinterNights]

Oh definitely. Work, trying to acquire some property and my hobbies take up so much of my time it’s hard enough to get time to hang out with friends. Dating is just too complex and high maintenance for me to be able to prioritize it at all right now.

[slatyb]

You sound depressed. Getting to know people including women is a normal part of life. What are you doing to meet people?

[Intothevoid666]

I’m a very social person. I try to meet women at all sorts of places; school, bars, clubs, the gym, tinder, Instagram etc. it’s just that most aren’t responsive and the ones that are in generally not attracted to and I really don’t think my standards are unrealistic. I also have a very specific type so that doesn’t help.

[awkward_author]

I've found that women have higher standards than men, which makes things a bit harder.

[JSmuve]

I agree. Trying to find a relationship is like trying to find a job when no one is advertising and the jobs come with zero security and limited benefits.

[Leonharted]

Nope. It’s hard to find the right girl, but the payoff is worth the effort.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Way too much time and effort, but being single is too shitty of an experience to not look.

[Anonymous]

Younger women are playing the field, older women are just settling and have other motives, you might as well give up.

[Anonymous]

Yes I agree with you, its too much effort these days.

[Slartybartfast]

Doing my taxes is more fun.