
Is this manipulative or just clever?


It’s not even remotely manipulative, it’s kinda cute that you would think we don’t get exactly what you just did there. But it’s a nice way to let us pick the restaurant. I like it when a man plans a date, it really shows me that he put some thought into it. So if a guy did this w/ me I’d feel a tad let down that he didn’t really plan it out, but again at least I get to have a dinner that I’ll enjoy.
You know, even with a first date, there is nothing wrong with finding out what her favorite kind of food is. Maybe give you some ideas as to the type of restaurant that would be best.
But who’s to say they actually like the first place they guessed? They could absolutely hate it and guessed it in hopes it wasn’t there. 🤔
It's smart when it works, but this trick is old and well-enough known that it usually fails. Think of it like a placebo effect--it's effective until the subject knows that it's just a trick.
What if she says "i don't know, I want you to decide"?
(Or if she guesses a place which is ridiculously expensive)
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It’s fine. There’s nothing deceptive about it. And it’s being done with good intentions.
What's the difference and what's wrong with being a little bit manipulative here and there if everyone is happy?
Do people actually exist who does good for goodness sake? I am a sociopath because I want to see at least a smile when I do something nice? That I am motivated to do nice things because I want to see a nice response? I don't understand what "manipulative" means. Every single interaction I have with a human being is manipulative. The only difference I can understand is benevolent manipulation vs. malevolent manipulation. When I ask someone how their day is going, I am using benevolent manipulation. I am trying to make them feel better and not using them as pawns for my personal gain.
Same if I die rescuing someone from a burning building. That is still manipulation as I see it even though it results in my own death. It is just a benevolent kind.
I think it’s just clever as it’s not actually manipulative.
Could go either way. Being manipulative is often a horrible thing, but not always.
Or you could just man up and make the damned decision yourself. Most girls expect you to lead. So lead.
Clever. My wife would still be thinking. It’s better for me just to order and for her to stfu.
Missing the obvious. Why not just decide yourself instead of resorting to mind games like a girl?
Have to out smart the indecisive
Clever
Clever
A perfect bamboozle
Just Clever
it's neither
Clever.
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