Women go on dates and expect men to pay. Men go on dates and expect sex at the end. Is there a difference? (Page 2)

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Personally I don't think a man should expect sex on a date, and not a first date anyway. Some women will give it up easy on a first one but I don't think most do. However, a woman shouldn't be expecting a man to pay for the date or even buy her gifts. And it's ironic to me that you have chicks out there who think this should be the case but think it's wrong for men to want sex out of it. So what is the difference?

Wester1967 · Answer

I don't expect sex. I expect only entitlement, insane expectations, laundry list of necessary BS, obsessive phone checking and emotional acting out. Nothing less. Don't call me, I'm busy right now

Anonymous · Answer

There isn't. It's hypocrisy for a woman to expect a man to pay. It should be his option, but expecting it is wrong and outdated. Ironically, it's usually the same ones screeching about equality that fall back onto "tradition".

Heartache0405 · Answer

Both expect too much from the other person and neither deserve it. Neither has respect for the other. They only want to quell their own selfish needs.

GMANN56 · Answer

If I ask a woman on a date I expect to pay. If we both decide to meet
up at like a festival or something then we usually pay our own way.
Sex is never a payback for dinner.
And ladies, just so you know, If we go out on a first date and things go great
and we wind up the night with some sort of sex, I don't think any less
of you at all. I mean, I like sex and I just figure that you do too. I LOVE
women who like sex.

SphynxUK · Answer

You’re generalising. I pay my way on dates. Men don’t expect sex unless it’s been arranged. Otherwise, a date is a date and men are happy enough on date one to want to see me again.

Billlewis · Answer

I go on a date in the hopes of making myself useful to the woman who I'm wining, dining and kissing the ass of, and if I'm fortunate enough to have sex with her, it consist of servicing her orally, and nothing else.

AdithyaR · Answer

I don't think either of those is should be expected. Generally for who pays, either the person who's idea it was pays or they split the check.

msc545 · Answer

Women expect to be paid for and get it. Some men expect sex and rarely get it. Also, sex costs nothing except the time to do it. Money costs work time. Time cannot be replaced.

RebeccaBI2000 · Answer

Until I know what is happening. I pay for my own meal.

MzAsh · Answer

If he asks her out, he should be the one paying. It’s an invite for the date and the financial costs of whatever they do on that date. Sex is a separate issue.

sheikalana · Answer

You actually got a good point. It's actually the same.

Razp_Sorbet · Answer

I would rather split the bill. I'd also rather there not be any expectations. Dating is hard enough but worrying about the end of the night or the next date makes it impossible to enjoy the now.

Kabluie · Answer

When you make enough that paying for a first date doesn't matter or make you blink twice, some insecure guys start to want entitlement to the picture. I just look at it if we both like each other that much, it's going to happen.

Anonymous · Answer

Dates are just low key john/prostitution relationship. Men want sex and women want resources. Only difference being a prostitute give a fix fee and her services while dating is ambiguous and a woman can milk a man for months without giving him anything.

TwinkleLily5 · Answer

Do men really expect sex after a date or immature guys with no interest in a relationship.

Gwenhwyfar · Answer

Yes. I expect the guy to pay at least on the first few dates but that definitely doesn’t guarantee him sex at the end.

front2back · Answer

What dudes are expecting sex after the first date lmao I wouldn't even expect it after the first month.

roseline_ · Answer

You can't ask me for a date and not be able to pay the bill. I say this because I know I don't consume much. Just something he can afford.

As for sex at first meeting. That shii is not proper. It makes the guy see her as cheap

Anonymous · Answer

Women don't get it cause they can get sex whenever they want. I could take a chick on multiple dates, pay, and she can just decide she doesn't want sex cause of some imaginary red flag and it's all good. Like no, you just wasted my time, money, and I was emotionally invested in you if we were going on multiple dates. Sex is the least you can do, we're doing everything else.

Anonymous · Answer

Women always expect a lot for a man, like pay for their dinner or give them expensive gifts, It's like women are totally dependent on men and sponging off a man's money. I'm not complaining I think it's great women are dependent and submit to the men they date, It's how all women should be.

jshm2 · Answer

Those are two very different things, bucko and it's no wonder you're not getting lucky if you're failing at this basic level.

Mediterraneansoul · Answer

I expect women to pay for hwr own shit and expect her to want sec but restrain herself and have self respect

JSmith925 · Answer

Wait, are you equating intimacy and money? If you do not know the difference, probably no one can explain it to you. ~JSmith

JustiReno · Answer

Ladies listen up, I expect 6+ sons no daughters if you can’t do this for me your a failure in my eyes you can’t even live up to my own grandmother, Donna Graham Greenlee LOL 😝

Anonymous · Answer

I don't think it's the same. Most of the time those guys see irrelevant things as a signal and try ridiculous things if all they think is sex. They can make pressure on the women it's a little different from being pressured to pay fifty dollars.

KatieB713 · Answer

One guy I dated, I put sex off for almost a year... wish I'd made it longer...  But I paid for most of our dates

OddBeMe · Answer

I don’t think women are starving to death until they date….

Anonymous · Answer

Trying to difference money and sex only applies to hookers. If you don't have sex then isn't it just the same as hanging out with your brother? Sex is usually what makes people attracted to each other

fizzjazz-69 · Answer

First date sex is a huge no. But I really think women should go for 50/50 split than the guy paying.

Anonymous · Answer

Your pussy costs more than the price of a meal. It costs a marriage, a house, and a lifetime of provision and protection for you and your kids. What does the man get out of it. The exact same. Simple as that.

Anonymous · Answer

Yes, the woman is expecting the man to demonstrate he can support her and her kids. The man expecting sex is expecting commitment to that natural possibility after a single date.

exitseven · Answer

Yes, the difference is that the man almost always pays for the date but most of the time he does not get the sex.

Anonymous · Answer

Yes, when men pay for dates it is socially acceptable but when women have sex on the first date it is not socially acceptable. (In some countries). So, these are the differences.

NathanDavis · Answer

if you want sex for money... just get a prostitute and stop mitching...

Anonymous · Answer

I'm not expecting sex from a date, but luckily I only date girls that are real sweethearts, so paying or not doesn't even make a difference.

TheSpaceGnome · Answer

Smart people only expect commonalities and company.

Anonymous · Answer

I’ve never heard of a man getting pregnant or catching an STD because he paid for a date. That’s the difference.

robocop666 · Answer

I know a woman who only goes on dates for a free meal and sex after

Anonymous · Answer

This is really stupid logic. Only cheap “pick up artists” get upset about paying for a date. If you don’t understand why the man pays without expectations of transactional sex afterwards, you aren’t ready to be dating in the first place.

Anonymous · Answer

I don't expect sex. I'm just trying to figure out if I even like this girl.

Butter_Milk · Answer

I personally think who ever asked for the date is responsible for the bill
If I ask you out on a date then I pay
And sex after the first is a red flag are pursuing a relationship or a friends with benefits connection 🤷

tiajoka · Answer

Yes, one is rooted in traditionalism, while the other is rooted in the destruction of it.

Subarugirl · Answer

Yes because there is a difference between someone’s wallet and someone body..

Hangry06 · Answer

When you choose the hedonistic lifestyle, you gotta pay as money or sex

Jamie05rhs · Answer

Who is expecting sex at the end of a date? I'm not.

Anonymous · Answer

Yup dating, relationships, marriage is basically just prostitution the sooner you realize the sooner you win

CallmeTheKnight · Answer

Sometimes it's the other way around and even half the time, both people want sex at the end.

Anonymous · Answer

Responses like those from @Gwenhwyfar @serious_miss419 are great examples of why modern women are widely considered to be the biggest hypocrites in the history of humanity.

douride2 · Answer

I pay my own way then the man has no expectation of getting sex. LOL

Twalli · Answer

If I am paying my money for everything, I expect something in return. If she pays for some, I'll treat her as a person and not a sex doll.

Anonymous · Answer

Why does sex considered to be mans reward when the man is suppose to please the woman and the woman enjoys it more?
Man do the hard work in sex and it's considered to be a gift for them?
What a weird society.

IrinaKitten · Answer

If they guy is asking for the date and the guy is picking the place then it seems reasonable that the guy should pay and expect nothing but your company.

Anonymous · Answer

My brothers girlfriend, Stella was not actually in love. She just wanted the gifts.

noohair · Answer

You made the point I have always tried to advance, nothing is free.

Tinylove360 · Answer

I think women should start paying for their own dates because unfortunately men might get angry and demand sex

DJay47 · Answer

No. They're both gold-diggers. Avoid them at all costs.

Anonymous · Answer

They are the same pictures. Gold diggers, sex diggers.

Anonymous · Answer

I mean... the food better be worth it. If it's like cheap dinner no but if it's fancy yes?

Anonymous · Answer

Avoid dating people with such mentality.  If possible: Men should follow MGTOw. Women should become strong and independent. No need to date. Hence no problem!

jadedzombie88 · Answer

Ill always try to get you to give it up on the first night but if you do ill likely not respect you

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