I don’t expect anything from a date. I always pay half for the meal or buy a round of drinks or something to make sure nobody feels like they have to pay.
Accually its just all about the efforts of giving towards a good time that both can achieve together to make it happen. Its NOT an investment or collateral of certain prefferences. Its NOT going before the ethics commitie or in front of the dating judge. Its a semented period of time to adjurn yourself towards another person of preffered interest. Why mandate or articulate provisions to control the other?
this is the first HONEST question I have seen on here. YES, It is true that most men expect sex with women within the first 3 dates. It is extremely common. Men on here to complain about men having to pay for dates, are just guys who can't get dates, which is why they hate on women so much
A man invites her, he can pay. Old fashion gentlemen do much better in a relationship than the modern dude addicted to dates. Is paying for dinner a man’s gesture to bribe the lady to let him enjoy sex with her? Like piss off and go suck some cock
@serious_miss419 Wait a minute. It's the modern woman addicted to dates. Not men. Women are the ones crying about not having a date or a guy standing them up, or bragging about alllllll the dates they've been on. The dating game is ten times more obssessive for women because they're obsessed with not wanting to be single or look single.
Funny how all these Modern Women want and Old Fashioned gentlemen that pays for everything, while they make the same amount of money, and keep it to themselves.
You know who also fairs better in relationships? Traditional women who understand that if they want a man to act a certain way, they need to hold up their end of the deal as well. Not just demand things "because you deserve it" like a spoiled child.
@Little_Bumblebee I bet the guys don't know what to do with themselves when you pay your own because that idea of them expecting sex, etc. just flies out the window! Let these expecting type of men get a sex worker and pay her for what he thought you would do for a few bites of food. Times have changed and it's a brand new world 🌎
The man picking up the tab is a tradition that goes way back, probably to a time when women lived at home until they married out of it. I have no problem with it. What tradition supports a girl putting out simply because she got a free meal at the Outback Steakhouse?
I don't expect sex at the end of a date. Why would you expect that? Why would you expect for a woman to think so little of herself to just throw it in your face. So disrespectful to expect that so quickly in a possible relationship, especially really early on. The first several dates are to just see if you enjoy being with that person. Although I have known women who do. My ex did not even require a date, that is how easy she is.
I think expecting sex or expecting a free meal on a date is, at best, childish and/or self-entitlement. That said, I don't think it's the same thing. As someone else said, there's a real difference between a woman's body and a man's wallet. And there's an extreme difference in the potential consequences between sex and a meal.
Obviously, I'm young. And I admit I've not really thought about this issue. But, right off the top what occurs to me is that paying out some money is a COMPLETELY different thing than giving your body to someone! How can you compare those two?
And so, with that, my reaction to the question is... I don't think a woman SHOULD expect the guy to pay.
@Tinylove360 Well, you're right about that - but I don't think the asker was talking about girls my age. I was just giving my thoughts on the question, even though I haven't even been on a date (or had sex, for that matter - or a free meal!!!).
But, were you saying it's messed up for any man to try to have sex for a dinner, or just for any man to try to have sex with a fourteen-year-old? I would say both, but I'm not sure which you meant (or both).
@Tinylove360 Sad but probably true. I just hope there are SOME decent guys still out there when I start dating (about age 37, according to my dad). HA!
This doesn't work with equivilant exchange. No date is worth my body also one is traditional while the other is out of lust and isn't traditional. Having sex because he paid for a date opens the door for men to call you a whore just because they pay for sex and a meal. Either way I won't give any man my body because of a meal. If he wanted to pay for sex shouldve gotten a hooker or an escort.
Call me old fashioned, but I will always pay on a date with a woman and never expect sex at the end of it. If she insists on paying then ok fine, I will pay next time. I never expect or put pressure on her to have sex. Don't get me wrong, a great deal of my dates have ended up being sexual very quickly, but that is never because of pressure on my part!
I feel like whoever asks for the date should pay, but not everyone agrees. Most of the time I pay for myself so I don't get guilt tripped for rejecting any sexual advances.
If you feel like spending $40-60 on someone should automatically give you a key to their pants, go find a sex worker.
Most guys don't expect sex after one date, and if the guy doesn't pay for the first date, he doesn't get a second. Which by the way are usually more expensive dates. So 40-60 is just the entry fee. We still have to stand in line.
So after 3-4 dates I have now spent 200-400 dollars on you. Just too show up. Even after all that "I'm not owed anything". Ok, that's fine. Men don't like it but accept it.
If women had to spend that kind of money on every guy they went on dates with... they wouldn't be going on many dates. Women can date as much as they want because it doesn't cost them anything, men have to work within their budget.
Not everyone has 200 dollars a week to spend on someone else, just to see if they MIGHT get some sex out of it eventually.
@nitsuj86 "Not everyone has 200 dollars a week to spend on someone else" : and that's how the gold diggers weed out the ones without disposable income that aren't worth their time.
I have plenty of money to spend on myself and others, but I am absolutely not going to pay the way of a stranger just for the opportunity to get to know her. There's way too many women out there that I wouldn't go on a date with if you paid ME. I think this whole conundrum can be solved if you just take it easy and get to know someone before going out to dinner with them. It's much easier to just hang out, do some free activity like exercise, etc. I find out more about women that way than sitting across from them at a restaurant anyway.
As for "expecting sex", I only expect we will have sex if we are mutually attracted to each other. Which should have nothing to do with financial support. If we aren't mutually attracted, then maybe we can be friends, maybe not. Either way, I'm into consensual sex, not prostitution.
This is a very subjective one. In some cultures, despite the women are already capable of earning their own income, men are still expected to pay for dates. I come from one of these cultures so whenever I date someone out of my race, I’d be upfront with him and I have no problem if he chooses to leave. Maybe I am just lucky as I have met many men who were/are okay with it ☺️
I think a gentleman pays, and doesn't expect sex on a first date. I also think it's sexist thatI say and think that..
By the 3rd date no sex... well I usually am looking somewhere else or for someone else by then. Usually by the end second date as a guy you know if the 3rd date is the sex date. If its not look good you move on. I always make my first date a walk in the park, and maybe coffee. Second date I might buy her a meal... but nothing fancy.
Whoever feels entitled to sex at the end of a date, especially a first date, has a very flawed concept on what dating is. Men should pay for a date if he's the one asking... its not a trade. Its just being a gentleman. Nobody says he has to, but to use this as leverage for booty at the end is simply selfish and stupid. Sex, ie someones body and emotions, is never a trade for services paid.
That may be a personality and ethic thing. This thinking is that if a selfish person. I never thought like that on any date. Where’s the respect and regard for the other human being? Where’s the love?
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The fundamental male/female dynamic at it’s core is men give women stuff for sex, women use sex to get stuff.
The only difference is that women expect and feel entitled to be paid for and don’t believe a man should expect or feel entitled to sex.
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if i dont obey males, i will let them spank my ass and fuck me till i am weak if i do something that they dont want. because men are stronger. men are bread winners of familyy so they should pay and if they want to punish then they should spank their ass or boob hard till the girls wil beg for mercy from the dominant big guy.
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I don’t expect anything from a date. I always pay half for the meal or buy a round of drinks or something to make sure nobody feels like they have to pay.
Accually its just all about the efforts of giving towards a good time that both can achieve together to make it happen. Its NOT an investment or collateral of certain prefferences. Its NOT going before the ethics commitie or in front of the dating judge. Its a semented period of time to adjurn yourself towards another person of preffered interest. Why mandate or articulate provisions to control the other?
this is the first HONEST question I have seen on here. YES, It is true that most men expect sex with women within the first 3 dates. It is extremely common. Men on here to complain about men having to pay for dates, are just guys who can't get dates, which is why they hate on women so much
A man invites her, he can pay.
Old fashion gentlemen do much better in a relationship than the modern dude addicted to dates.
Is paying for dinner a man’s gesture to bribe the lady to let him enjoy sex with her? Like piss off and go suck some cock
That’s not acceptable. Old fashioned is dying what will you do when is gone? The fact is you expect special treatment while benefitting from equality.
@serious_miss419 Wait a minute. It's the modern woman addicted to dates. Not men. Women are the ones crying about not having a date or a guy standing them up, or bragging about alllllll the dates they've been on. The dating game is ten times more obssessive for women because they're obsessed with not wanting to be single or look single.
Well aren't you a special snowflake.
Funny how all these Modern Women want and Old Fashioned gentlemen that pays for everything, while they make the same amount of money, and keep it to themselves.
You know who also fairs better in relationships? Traditional women who understand that if they want a man to act a certain way, they need to hold up their end of the deal as well. Not just demand things "because you deserve it" like a spoiled child.
This is one of the many reasons I always expect to pay for myself.
I have sex with someone when I feel ready and comfortable to do so not sooner or later. The same goes for kissing and other things.
@Little_Bumblebee I bet the guys don't know what to do with themselves when you pay your own because that idea of them expecting sex, etc. just flies out the window! Let these expecting type of men get a sex worker and pay her for what he thought you would do for a few bites of food. Times have changed and it's a brand new world 🌎
@sage2021 It hasn't really been that much of an issue, but I don't date that much either, so.
I will also agree. I feel the same way.
The man picking up the tab is a tradition that goes way back, probably to a time when women lived at home until they married out of it. I have no problem with it.
What tradition supports a girl putting out simply because she got a free meal at the Outback Steakhouse?
I don't expect sex at the end of a date. Why would you expect that? Why would you expect for a woman to think so little of herself to just throw it in your face. So disrespectful to expect that so quickly in a possible relationship, especially really early on. The first several dates are to just see if you enjoy being with that person.
Although I have known women who do. My ex did not even require a date, that is how easy she is.
I think expecting sex or expecting a free meal on a date is, at best, childish and/or self-entitlement. That said, I don't think it's the same thing. As someone else said, there's a real difference between a woman's body and a man's wallet. And there's an extreme difference in the potential consequences between sex and a meal.
Obviously, I'm young. And I admit I've not really thought about this issue. But, right off the top what occurs to me is that paying out some money is a COMPLETELY different thing than giving your body to someone! How can you compare those two?
And so, with that, my reaction to the question is... I don't think a woman SHOULD expect the guy to pay.
Your 14, you shouldn't be having sex to pay for dates. That's messed up and any man that tries that is a wrothless piece of shit
@Tinylove360 Well, you're right about that - but I don't think the asker was talking about girls my age. I was just giving my thoughts on the question, even though I haven't even been on a date (or had sex, for that matter - or a free meal!!!).
But, were you saying it's messed up for any man to try to have sex for a dinner, or just for any man to try to have sex with a fourteen-year-old? I would say both, but I'm not sure which you meant (or both).
Both ways are messed up but nowadays men will use any excuse to pressure women into sex
@Tinylove360 Sad but probably true. I just hope there are SOME decent guys still out there when I start dating (about age 37, according to my dad). HA!
Yup :)
This doesn't work with equivilant exchange. No date is worth my body also one is traditional while the other is out of lust and isn't traditional. Having sex because he paid for a date opens the door for men to call you a whore just because they pay for sex and a meal. Either way I won't give any man my body because of a meal. If he wanted to pay for sex shouldve gotten a hooker or an escort.
Call me old fashioned, but I will always pay on a date with a woman and never expect sex at the end of it. If she insists on paying then ok fine, I will pay next time.
I never expect or put pressure on her to have sex.
Don't get me wrong, a great deal of my dates have ended up being sexual very quickly, but that is never because of pressure on my part!
I feel like whoever asks for the date should pay, but not everyone agrees. Most of the time I pay for myself so I don't get guilt tripped for rejecting any sexual advances.
If you feel like spending $40-60 on someone should automatically give you a key to their pants, go find a sex worker.
Most guys don't expect sex after one date, and if the guy doesn't pay for the first date, he doesn't get a second. Which by the way are usually more expensive dates. So 40-60 is just the entry fee. We still have to stand in line.
So after 3-4 dates I have now spent 200-400 dollars on you. Just too show up. Even after all that "I'm not owed anything". Ok, that's fine. Men don't like it but accept it.
If women had to spend that kind of money on every guy they went on dates with... they wouldn't be going on many dates. Women can date as much as they want because it doesn't cost them anything, men have to work within their budget.
Not everyone has 200 dollars a week to spend on someone else, just to see if they MIGHT get some sex out of it eventually.
Not to mention prostitution is illegal in almost all states. So most men can't just "go get a sex workere" without risking losing their entire lives.
@nitsuj86 "Not everyone has 200 dollars a week to spend on someone else" : and that's how the gold diggers weed out the ones without disposable income that aren't worth their time.
I have plenty of money to spend on myself and others, but I am absolutely not going to pay the way of a stranger just for the opportunity to get to know her. There's way too many women out there that I wouldn't go on a date with if you paid ME. I think this whole conundrum can be solved if you just take it easy and get to know someone before going out to dinner with them. It's much easier to just hang out, do some free activity like exercise, etc. I find out more about women that way than sitting across from them at a restaurant anyway.
As for "expecting sex", I only expect we will have sex if we are mutually attracted to each other. Which should have nothing to do with financial support. If we aren't mutually attracted, then maybe we can be friends, maybe not. Either way, I'm into consensual sex, not prostitution.
This is a very subjective one. In some cultures, despite the women are already capable of earning their own income, men are still expected to pay for dates. I come from one of these cultures so whenever I date someone out of my race, I’d be upfront with him and I have no problem if he chooses to leave. Maybe I am just lucky as I have met many men who were/are okay with it ☺️
When you dress like that I beat you can get most men to do a lot lol.
Sorry to say no woman is automatically entitled to my time and money nor am I to her time or body.
I think a gentleman pays, and doesn't expect sex on a first date. I also think it's sexist thatI say and think that..
By the 3rd date no sex... well I usually am looking somewhere else or for someone else by then. Usually by the end second date as a guy you know if the 3rd date is the sex date. If its not look good you move on. I always make my first date a walk in the park, and maybe coffee. Second date I might buy her a meal... but nothing fancy.
Whoever feels entitled to sex at the end of a date, especially a first date, has a very flawed concept on what dating is. Men should pay for a date if he's the one asking... its not a trade. Its just being a gentleman. Nobody says he has to, but to use this as leverage for booty at the end is simply selfish and stupid. Sex, ie someones body and emotions, is never a trade for services paid.
That may be a personality and ethic thing. This thinking is that if a selfish person. I never thought like that on any date. Where’s the respect and regard for the other human being? Where’s the love?
The fundamental male/female dynamic at it’s core is men give women stuff for sex, women use sex to get stuff.
The only difference is that women expect and feel entitled to be paid for and don’t believe a man should expect or feel entitled to sex.
if i dont obey males, i will let them spank my ass and fuck me till i am weak if i do something that they dont want. because men are stronger.
men are bread winners of familyy so they should pay and if they want to punish then they should spank their ass or boob hard till the girls wil beg for mercy from the dominant big guy.
I've never expected sex from a date and I always expect to pay.
Frankly I NEVER wanted sex with a women til I've known her for at least a year.
i pay my own way on a date, never expect anyone to pay for my portion of anything and its still expected and they ain't getting.
Fair enough.