first anything close to a valid answer on here.
[Girls are just more likely to overlook certain shortcomings if you have enough of the other stuff. While guys are a bit more strict usually on the few things they're shallow on]This is proof that men are more shallow. If he cannot overlook certain things
Women are better at overlooking negative attributes than men. Honestly speaking.
I disagree. We just are in alignment with what we say we value and women have trouble accepting that.While girls will say one thing and act differently. I wouldn't say guys cannot, it's that they will not, because why would we?I think girls have trouble understanding that guys and girls are attracted to different things and that traits you care about we don't as men and vice versa. It just feels too shallow to girls because they don't feel the same way on what's attractive
100% agree they're better at overlooking negative traits, that said lolWomen have a MUCH more vast sense of what's considered a negative to begin with and view some things as settling when it's really not
do you see how many men on here shit on older women, calling them undatable? do you see women on here shitting on poor men? NO. It simply doesn't happen. A man's sex appeal decreases with age too. His ability to score young women decreases with age too. But we see more younger women open to dating unattractive old men compared to young men dating older women. And no, none of these old guys are billionaires or are rich as hell. They're just average joes.
I asked this question because I have seen overwhelming amounts of bullying of older women on not only this website but also on youtube. why is there such a hatred of older women? why is there not a hatred of older men? why is there not a hatred of poor men?
Like I've had girls tell me they wouldn't date a guy because "look at his face", but turned around to tell me I'm shallow because when SHE asked me if I would date a fat chick I honestly said no.So I'm shallow for being honest about a basic standard I have that is completely within a girls control, but she's not shallow for judging a guy on something he can't control.That's an example of why I say girls are more shallow overall. Like would she overlook his face if he had money and a bunch of other positive traits? Possibly. But she'd also feel like she's settling for a man and that he needs to compensate in a way that benefits her to even consider. Like that's pretty fuckin shallow lolat least with a guy he's just like. "Not for me. Sorry nothing you can really do". He doesn't expect her to jump through hoops for the prize of sucking his dick
1 or 2 girls that you've met does not represent the vast majority of women.
A man's sex appeal decreases with age too. His ability to score young women decreases with age too. But we see more younger women open to dating unattractive old men compared to young men dating unattractive older women.And no, none of these old guys are billionaires or are rich as hell. They're just average joes.
[That's an example of why I say girls are more shallow overall. Like would she overlook his face if he had money and a bunch of other positive traits? Possibly. But she'd also feel like she's settling for a man and that he needs to compensate in a way that benefits her to even consider. Like that's pretty fuckin shallow lol]Actually I have seen plenty of old men WITHOUT MONEY who date significantly younger women.
I'm pretty new to the site so I can't speak to online norms here. But out about in real life I see plenty of girls judging guys based on income/height/face/weight and so on.Speaking to what I've observed in life not what's online. I don't really take that seriously because a guy could post a picture of a hot model and there will be 10% of guys that say "fake tits. Would not bang" or "look at that freckle. PASS!". When really it's not like they're fucking to begin with lmaoI will say about guys talking about older women. a lot is unfounded but some is founded. Not because of their physicality but a lot of attitudes older women tend to have. Like I date younger and older. Always have. Oldest I think was 45-47 I forget now. She was the rare exception for me because she didn't carry a lot of excess baggage that a lot of women have that makes them undatable for guys
I'm gonna wait a few min for you to respond. We're firing off too quick lol. Gonna wait so it's more concise
women are more likely to overlook a man's physical appearance if he has a nice personality. For example , if a man ugly but he is funny, he would still be able to get a woman. HOWEVER if a woman was ugly but she is funny, she would not be able to get any man.
I have observed wayy too many men over the years talking crap about older women via the internet. Even in real life, older men in their 40s tell me they wouldn't date anyone over the age of 35. YET, OLDER WOMEN are still more likely to date men around their own age. And no, these older guys aren't rich at all. They're normal people like me and you. doesn't this tell you something?
Tells me what men find attractive is more connected to age, while the things women find attractive are not.Like me as a man. I'm not attracted to a girl for being funny. I'm just not. I do not care if she is funny. If she is that's a nice bonus, but I don't need it.For a girl she might not like a guy because he's too serious and she NEEDS him to have a sense of humor and able to make her laugh.Guys don't need girls to make them laugh nor care to find a woman that does. It's a bonus but not a man thing. Just a difference in what we're attracted to. I've had exactly 1 girlfriend who was genuinely funny and could make me laugh. Was a huge bonus and pleasant surprise. But she also had the important kind/caring/genuine/cute/not argumentative. She had things guys in general are attracted to.Like realistically a guy will substitute a girl who is hotter for a girl who is less hot but has the other positive traits I mentioned. We just have a different criteria.I don't disagree that a lot of older men say this. I'm just saying it's not inherently shallow to not want to date older women if you don't find them attractive
but the reality is, there is no hate on poor men nor unattractive older men on the internet. BUT THERE IS IMMENSE HATE on older women. There is immense hate on fat women too. nothing you've said addressed this point.
[I don't disagree that a lot of older men say this. I'm just saying it's not inherently shallow to not want to date older women if you don't find them attractive]but there are more women who would date an unattractive older man who is not rich than it is for a man to date an unattractive older woman. you're desperately trying to evade the point here.
[Guys don't need girls to make them laugh nor care to find a woman that does. It's a bonus but not a man thing. Just a difference in what we're attracted to. I've had exactly 1 girlfriend who was genuinely funny and could make me laugh. Was a huge bonus and pleasant surprise. But she also had the important kind/caring/genuine/cute/not argumentative. She had things guys in general are attracted to.]thats NOT THE TOPIC being discussed. We aren't talking about different personality attributes that men or women are looking for. We are talking about who is more into things other than personality.
Lol I'm not avoiding. I'm saying there's a separation between character traits men and women are attracted to and more superficial things like looks/money/statusI think it's harder for guys to overlook the looks thing because guys don't care about your money or status, so we have fewer things in general that are superficial. Because we only have that it is more strict, but is amended a bit if the female has attractive personality traits that men care about While girls list of superficial items are more broad and all of them carry different weights of value. So as long as you're adding something else she cares about that spreads the weight more evenly in an acceptable manner.Like genuinely the only thing a girl can't control is unattractive face outside of surgery. Outside that she can make herself into a girl guys would want.While a lot of guys will likely have to spend years overcoming shortcomings to do the same. There are more and bigger hurdles for guys.
but the reality is, women are more likely to overlook man's unattractiveness if he has a good personality. This is why you see way more old men who aren't rich, dating women significantly younger than men dating unattractive older women who aren't rich. do you see my point?
An ugly guy can still get women if he is funny. An ugly woman will not be able to get any man if she is ugly.
you're constantly talking about women overlooking a man's ugliness due to money. The reality is 90% of men never ever hit the type of wealth or money that you're referring to.
Guys as a whole don't have high standardsDon't be fat and have at least have a tolerable faceWhen it comes down to it theirs a lot of men just care about having someone who can perform in bed and not puss them off every daz
@crossdressingrihno yeah, I think the fact that our standards are few but a little more strict makes us less shallow because we accept so much more than women While women have far more disqualifiers for men. Yes you will overlook some things, but you have so many things to disqualify on that at the end of the day still more shallow
And I appreciate the respectable back and forth girly. I had to sleep and you rapidfire too many responses lol. I like to keep it down to one or two at a time not 3 plus. It's more manageable
@JabberjawI think its a fallacy that guys accept way more than women. The reason why guys complain about having it so hard in dating is because they're only open to dating women of a certain age. When you have guys in their 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s all flocking to date women in their 20s and early 30s, this creates immense competition amongst men. It also gives young women too many options. Young women dont have to settle. This is why men complain about getting rejected so much or why its so hard to find a date. Because there is simply not enough women in their 20s or early 30s to go around. When you say that men are less picky to accepting women, they are only referring to accepting women of a certain subset. For example, men would date an average looking or even chubby 25-30 yr old but not a 40 yr old woman. Men ARE picky. Men rather stay single than date an older woman.
@Jabberjawhere's the thing I have noticed: Women don't demand a rich man. I've never seen a woman who insists that a man make six figures before she goes out with him. All a woman looks at is to make sure he doesn't work a minimum wage job. But all men insist on dating women 15-30 years younger.
women are pickier when it comes to personality traits, compatibility, does he get along with my family? is he financially stable enough to start a family?, There is a saying "Women fall in love with their ears. Men fall in love with their eyes". Women fall in love due to how men make them feel. Men fall in love with what they see.
Prefacing this. I'm not nitpicking, but fallacy means faulty logic and there is a list of logical fallacies. It's not just something you believe to be false. Like if I said 2+2=5 that's not a fallacy It's just wrong.So there was no fallacy in what I said lol.But to your point on men only wanting a subset of women. This is both true and untrue. Men are all attracted to girls in their 20s and some in the 30s, and the higher in age the less overall men find women attractive on average. Totally trueWhat I'm saying is that if you're getting the idea that most men in general ONLY are willing to date girls in their 20s based on a lot of dudes online I'm saying that's flawed because of the sample pool you are pulling from.Statistically how many guys on this site for instance do you think really goes out like that? How many of them really have/had a dating life assuming they're not in a relationship?I'd argue a good portion of the dudes on here are straight up celibates and don't even consistently go out to get women in the first place. So when we're talking about all these guys online. I'm saying that's not in line with SO MANY dudes out in the real world. a lot of "problems" complained about online are only a problem online. If you go outside they're not actually a problem. I've lost count the number of times a guy complained to be about something he was convinced was a real issue that just wasn't when he actually went outside and tried.Yes there is a pecking order in dating on both sides. The difference is for guys we're judged on a lot more, women are judged on few things in total. To say that because a lot of guys won't bend "enough" on the few standards they have that they are more shallow overall to me is flawed.It's like saying that I'm shallow because I won't date a girl who was a felon, when a lot of girls would date a felon if he checks off enough boxes. Well no, that just matters a lot more to me than it does to most women lol
Like guys don't really care about dating a girl that's too short or Too Tall, while girls care a lot. A lot of girls can't Overlook that even if the guy has a lot of good traits. Is she more shallow than all men? Or does she just care about different things?Because most men can Overlook height, a lot of women will not
[Yes there is a pecking order in dating on both sides. The difference is for guys we're judged on a lot more, women are judged on few things in total. To say that because a lot of guys won't bend "enough" on the few standards they have that they are more shallow overall to me is flawed.]I think its less shallow for a man to be picky on things like personality traits , compatibility, does he get along with my family? does he have enough money to start a family, than for a man to be picky on things such as the woman I date must be of a certain age. she must have a nice body. I won't date anyone who looks less than an 8 out of 10. Being less shallow means you can overlook certain things. And I think women are more likely to overlook certain things than men. As you have already stated "men are less able to overlook certain things than women"
[Yes there is a pecking order in dating on both sides. The difference is for guys we're judged on a lot more, women are judged on few things in total. To say that because a lot of guys won't bend "enough" on the few standards they have that they are more shallow overall to me is flawed.]I think its less shallow for a WOMAN*** to be picky on things like personality traits , compatibility, does he get along with my family? does he have enough money to start a family, than for a man to be picky on things such as the woman I date must be of a certain age. she must have a nice body. I won't date anyone who looks less than an 8 out of 10.Being less shallow means you can overlook certain things. And I think women are more likely to overlook certain things than men. As you have already stated "men are less able to overlook certain things than women"
Yes you see more girls with less attractive guys because his personality. But what is also true is that you see way more guys getting turned down for not measuring up on superficial measures than the other way around.Partly because men are the ones doing the pursuing and not women on average. So the opportunity for a girl to get turned down is less then it is for men but it does inevitably happen far more.And also fair to say that on average girls don't date less attractive dudes with good personalities. Does it happen? For sure, it certainly happens more in the case of women dating less attractive man then the reverse of genders. But that actual outcome is rare in and of itselfIn the majority of cases across both genders they will not date someone who is not attractive enough. And Sons girls have far more standards than guys do overall, girls are turning down a lot more guys than the other way around.If you ask 100 guys have they ever been turned down and how many times? I guarantee you every guy would be able to say at least five plus.Ask a hundred girls the same question and most of them would probably say once if that
I think guys are more likely to not date someone who they deem as not attractive enough. Its time to stop contradicting yourself and face the truth
Giys get turned down more because they are more desperate and only date women of a certain age. there's not enough young women to go around
I have seen single dads in their 40s complain about being single and unable to find a girlfriend. But yet they also claim they dont want to date a woman in her 40s. But what kind young woman without baggage in her 20s or early 30s would be interested in an old unattractive man with kids? A woman around his age would be more likely to accept him but he doesn't want a woman his own ageThis is why men get rejected so much. Do you really think a 25 yr old girl would go for a hot handsome 32 yr old man without kids or a 46 yr old aging man with kids?
To be fair the age thing is more directly related to her ability to have kids if you wants them. So I wouldn't say age from that perspective is necessarily as superficial as we want to say it isNow if he doesn't want kids or care about that so much, then okay it's superficial. But passed a certain age if you want kids it's legitimate it's not superficial at all
@shaysh87If I'm being honest we don't even need this argument cuz you don't even understand men.And how can you argue about a topic you don't understand right?A lot of women THiNK they understand men but in all honesty they don't they really don't they get away with what they do because men just don't care as much that's it.Men have only like four primary disqualifiers and that's it. Unless of course there was like something in their life that like did something then there might be more but that's because of like life trauma so that doesn't really count.Also it just sounds like you don't want to be the shallow sex that's what it sounds like to me.Men do care about personality thing is we don't have a specific personality trait that a woman needs to have we just like you or we don't.And sure we don't care as much about if our girlfriend gets along with their family, can you guess why that is?It's because we don't give a s***. If our girlfriend proves to be more important to us than our family then we'll pick her over our family if our family proves to be more important than we'll pick our family. Men understand that family can be assholes and that the blood is thicker than water crap is just that crap in the end we're going to care about things because they're worth caring about and not because someone told us to care about them.
@crossdressingrihno yeah, he's right on that point. I've told multiple girls that I don't care if my family likes them. But they care if their family likes me. Like it's a bonus if it's the case, but I don't really care at the end of the dayPersonality-wise only care about her being kind, caring, genuine, playful, not a headache arguing about s bunch of bullshit, kinky (if we're to consider that a personality trait lol) or maybe sexually eager is a better way to put it
@shayjay87Also we are very capable of overlooking a lot of things that we don't like like a ridiculous amount it's kind of disturbing actually.You don't realize this probably but Men actually do overlook quite a bit. Also men are absolutely able to and do date very bland looking women. Put simply if they thought of sex doesn't gross us out and you have a good enough of a personality you can definitely make it in the dating world as a straight woman. Sure media and people online make it seem like that's not the case but that's only because the internet filters out a lot of things so there's like this bias on the internet that doesn't exist in the real life. Guys will say they'll only date like an 8 out of 10 or higher online but then they'll go around and their girlfriend is like a 5 out of 10 or maybe even a 4 out of 10 that is if they have a girlfriend because some of these actually most of these people who you meet online are probably going to be people who can't get a girlfriend.
@JabberjawEven SINGLE DADS want women who are 15-20 years younger. It has nothing to do with her ability to have kids. There was even a research study that shows men tend to remarry women younger than their first wife after a divorce. Wanna see?
@crossdressingrihno Have you seen the hatred of older women over the internet? It is enormous and never ending. Thats why i asked this question
@crossdressingrihno Men would overlook a chubby looking 25 yr old but would ignore a skinny looking 45 yr old woman, including single dads. Men aren't less picky than women. Its just that they are less picky when it comes to younger women but completely reject older women I have literally seen 45 yr old single dads who say they absolutely would not date a woman of their own age and only date average looking women 15 -20 years younger
It has nothing to do with fertility or a womans ability to have kids. It has completely to do with looks. Even single dads with kids want significantly younger women
"Have you seen the hatred of older women over the internet? It is enormous and never ending. Thats why i asked this question""Internet""Internet" Is so filterd and biased making an argument about IRL stuff using the internet as an example is just going to lead into a failed argument.People don't say what they actually think and feel while online.People post nudes online but would be horrified to show anyone their body in real life. This basic idea spans across the board where people less constrained to play pretend in their "ideal reality"
Everyone has their ideal reality and the internet is where a lot of people go to express it.In my ideal reality I'd be scrawny brown hair nerd with glasses with 3 hot redheads and I'd have super strength and super intelligence with the ability to make whatever I want.Despite this in reality I'm not that and I have been with more black women then white women despite the fact my preference is gingers.Still I will admit I do fall into the internet trap a little bit
You're not trying to understand where we're coming from
@JabberjawBecause all i see is thay you're just making excuses. Infertility has nothing to do with it. Statistics and marriage data from second marriages for men with kids, show that these single dads tend to marry women significantly younger than their first wives
Are you talking to me?
@JabberjawI dont see divorced women remarrying men significantly richer than their ex husbands. There is no such record of that
No such record?
@crossdressingrihno Nope. Neither have i ever seen an older woman only insists she date men of a certain wealth. In fact older women are more open to dating old unattractive men than young women
I'm surprised someone as biased as you would give me MHO, but thanks. :)
i don't think im biased at all., do you realize how much hate towards older women on here?
thats the reason why i asked this question. the hate on GAG and youtube against older women is enormous and never ending.
I've seen some hate coming from you as well. Is that how you address the problem? By being like the other haters?
I'm only hating on the men who hate on older women. I'm the only woman who cares about putting them in their place on here. Nobody else cares enough to do so.
if you're gonna hate on older women, I'm not gonna let you get off scott free. I am not attracted to old guys in their 40s either. I don't hate on old men on here.
Just FYI, you come off as hating men in general.I suspect most of the guys you hate think they are justified in what they are doing, just like you think you are justified in what you are doing. That's how hatred spreads and grows.Hating people is never a good thing, even if it gives you some temporary satisfaction. In the end it just makes you unhappy while spreading your unhappiness to others.
I don't hate men. Its just that GAG is an environment that is strong anti women, especially ANTI OLDER WOMEN. how do you expect me to stay respectful to such scum of the earth? I do have respect for less than a handful of VERY DECENT men on here who are noet anti women, not anti older women, not perverted. Men who don't go prancing around saying that a woman's worth goes to 0 when she turns 30. I have read many questions that ask : "DO WOMEN EXPIRE BY 30?"How do you expect me to not "hate" on men who ask such questions or have such terrible attitudes towards women?
you are only on here to criticize my shaming of these men. you're not criticizing men who spew anti women BS all over GAG. If you're truly a decent person, you wouldn't be criticizing me, you would be criticizing the misogynists.
Shaming on these men is a PROBLEM to you. But these misogynists shaming women is NOT A PROBLEM to you.
You've made a lot of assumptions about me and what I do or don't do, and you're wrong about all of them. I've not criticizing you for criticizing men who behave that way. I criticize anyone who has hate in their heart and chooses to spread it.Best
To the fake guy pretending to be fair and morally upright: You are just as bad as the misogynists that you're refusing to criticize.
To the hate filled woman who thinks she's morally superior to the guys she hates:You are no different from them; you're just too dishonest to recognize it.
Ahhh... I see... you're a misogynist too. No wonder why you're refusing to criticize the misogynists
To the misogynist who thinks its ok to hate on women but not men:if you don't hate on me, I won't hate on you. Lets just leave it at that, misogynist.
I'm not a misogynist, and I absolutely do criticize people who are. I criticize anyone who is a hater and spreads hatred, which is why I called you out. But I realize it's easier for you to just call me a "misogynist" than to confront your own hatred, so there are no surprises here, just disappointment.
I know you are a misogynist because not once did I ever hear you say that the men on here are equally as bad for shaming women. In fact, you are DEFIANT and fiercely ignore the fact that older women get bullied on here. now you're saying you treat women fairly... I dont think so... If you want me to believe that, you better get better at acting... maybe some acting classes?
[ But I realize it's easier for you to just call me a "misogynist" than to confront your own hatred, so there are no surprises here, just disappointment.]why wouldn't hate a misogynist like you? did you really think I would "love" a misogynist like you who constantly talks shit about me?
Best answer right here.
@SaltyBeaches only reason why there are more votes for women being shallow is because the number of male voters men dominate female voters by 43 to 28.
That's completely beside the point but ok
@SaltyBeaches Thanks, I was trying to make the point that there is so much gender based bias and hatred on GAG and everyone thinks theirs is justified. Hatred is never justified and anyone who willingly plays a role is spreading or escalating it is as guilty as anyone else, even though they think they are justified (just like "the other guy"). But apparently I am a "misogynist" for not supporting hatred. Whatever.
@Opinion owner, The reason why I have a problem with you is because you're only criticizing comments you don't enjoy hearing about men. yet you REFUSE to criticize hatred towards women. this depletes you of all your fake "morality". you have no right to go around saying that all hate is wrong. because you have already clearly proven that you don't believe all hatred is wrong.
@Opinion owner, you don't think hatred against women is wrong. so why should you have the right saying that hatred against men, shouldn't exist?
I was criticizing YOU here because YOU are the author of this question so YOU are the one I was addressing.Your assumptions about me, what I do and whether I also criticize men (or anyone else like yourself who hates people and behaves like a spoilt child) are 100% wrong. You have proven here to be an even worse person than I thought you were, and certainly every bit as bad as the men you hate. But sadly, just like them, you are too immature and dishonest to see your hatred for what it is... no different than anyone else's. The world is a worse place because of people like you.Bye now
@Opinion ownerDo not even say anything else about morality UNTIL YOU ACKONWLEDGE THAT OLDER WOMEN DO GET MISTREATED, ABUSED AND SHAMED ON HERE. I don't see how you can be soooo "moral" YET be in complete denial that abuse against the fact that women do get abused on here. You have no morals. Stop pretending to be jesus. You're the furthest thing from moral.
@Opinion owner, You love prancing GAG saying all hatred is wrong BUT YET, you refuse to say that the shaming of older women is wrong and morally incorrect. do you see the irony here? we are 50 comments into this thread and you still have not acknowledged this. let me ask you something: do you think hatred on women is right?
they're competitive because they're competing for men's attention. men have higher standards when it comes to physical appearance than women. this is where all the cut throat competition comes from
@shaysh87Yeah, and it sucks.
i notice that too
Thanks for the MHO ❤
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i think its men. take a look at all the hatred on here towards older women.
There's nothing wrong with older women these men have probably never dated an older or younger woman
the hate on older women over the internet is REAL.
men also only want to date younger women.
Not really... I mean some guys definitely do, but most of us either want nor need the headache of dating passed a certain age gap. I'm 29, for example and I have very interest in dating someone younger than 25.
vast majority of men on here talk shit about older women all day. Even 40 yr old men want to date 18 yr old girls. how do you blame women for pummeling each other for beauty standards , if a woman's value rests so heavily on her physical appearance?
G@G is kind of a weird place, but I get what you're saying. I don't blame the women for doing that, but I think it's important explain that the pressure to look a certain way really does come more from other women than it does from men.
haha i don't think so. I think the pressure comes from men and the media. Take a look at the terrible attitudes and the condescension of older women from men not only on GAG but also youtube. Its so sad how disrespectful men are to older women. This is why there is so much competition amongst women. Same reason why so many women go for brazillian but lifts, or plastic surgery, or weight loss fad diets.
women have cutt throat competition because they're competing for men.
Well, all I can do is offer my perspective. I hope I could contribute something to the conversation.
I hope you learn something from what I've said too.
women don't hate on poor men. but men do hate on older women. its the pattern i've been seeing on this website.
women don't hate poor men. they just don't date them. men don't hate older women. they just don't date them.
a woman only expects a man to be financially stable, not rich. but all men want a woman 15-20 years younger
not considering someone as a good person to date is not synonymous with hating that person.
this is why I'd say men are more shallow.
men don't expect women to be the prettiest girl in the world. just not a fat land whale. youc an always make this sort of highly biased argument. i think that's just divisive, not factual.
so why is there so much hate on older women? why is there no bullying of poor men?
why do women get accused of being gold diggers if she wanted a rich man? why aren't men being accused of sex diggers if they want a young hot body for a 18 yr old?
if you look at facts, you're actually wrong. women are more superficial. generally. and that's not a bad thing. they have to, cause they're gonna be stuck with a child. men can just fuck around. just look at dating site statistics. men swipe right for way more women than women swipe right for men. men consider roughly 50% of women they are faced with on dating sites as "adequate to at least have sex with". women think that 80% of men are inadequate for such considereations. women are more superficial. and you may find yourself feeling angry and attacked as a woman. now. but you're not. it's just a fact. and i'm not putting any negative judgement. i think it has to be this way but elaborating on that would make this response too long.
men are scoffed at when they're like end 30 and having sex with an 18 year old just like the gold diggers are who sell their youthfull beauty to some rich creep. it's not like one side of that is less disrespected in society. you're making that up.
[just look at dating site statistics. men swipe right for way more women than women swipe right for men. men consider roughly 50% of women they are faced with on dating sites as "adequate to at least have sex with". women think that 80% of men are inadequate for such considereations.]men go on dating apps for sex. men are desperate for sex. they will have sex with a woman of any age. they will swipe right to anyone , just to get laid. it does not mean he wants a genuine romantic relationship with her. And I distinctively remember getting into a nasty argument with you a while back where you insisted that all men should be dating women 10-25 years younger.
[men are scoffed at when they're like end 30 and having sex with an 18 year old just like the gold diggers are who sell their youthfull beauty to some rich creep. it's not like one side of that is less disrespected in society. you're making that up.]no. there is no derogatory name for 30 yr old men who date 18 yr old girls.
there is NO HATE on poor men. But there is a long standing hate and condescension on older women.
Women who chase younger men are called "cougars". While men who chase younger women 10-20 years their junior is seen as normal.
men determine whether they want to be with partner long term after they have sex, women do that before they have sex. that's no argument for one side being less or more superficial, it's merely different order of priorities.of course there's hate for poor men. you just don't see that cause you're not looking. cause you are very obviously trying to make a one sided argument hereyes there is a derogatory term for 30+ year old men who have sex with 20- year old women. it's "pedophile". i now this isn't what that word means but that's how it's used. what derogatory term is there for young women that go for older men? there is none.there is a derogatory term for "gold digger", which doesn't by default mean that she's going for an old man. just for a rich one. and there's also a derogatory term for men who pay attracitve women to be in a relationship with them. it's called "sugar daddy".
"cougar" isn't derogatory.
[yes there is a derogatory term for 30+ year old men who have sex with 20- year old women. it's "pedophile". i now this isn't what that word means but that's how it's used.]quit making shit up. 20 yr old is not a child. that wouldn't even be called a pedophile. check up on the definition of pedophile. [there is a derogatory term for "gold digger", which doesn't by default mean that she's going for an old man. just for a rich one. and there's also a derogatory term for men who pay attracitve women to be in a relationship with them. it's called "sugar daddy".]because you ARE a sugar daddy if you're a 40 yr old man going after an 18 yr old girl. Its not derogatory at all. Nobody is making fun of you. Men dont get called perverts or sex diggers for dating young girls for sex. But women get called "gold diggers" for wanting money. Men are more shallow than men. Period.
I remember getting in to an argument with you a long time ago where you expressed your dislike towards older women and your insisting that all men should be dating women 15-20 years younger and that there is nothing wrong with it.
and now you have the audacity to say that women are more shallow. hun, there's nothing more shallow than a man like you who hates on older women. ok?
i'm not making shit up. i'm making factual statements, while you're triyng to win a battle you can't win, cause you have decided to argue for somethign that isn't true. i said everything that needs to be said. i'll mute this question now. bye.
"cougar" is derogatory. why isn't there a name for men who chase girls younger than their own daughters?
sure mute this thread. it just shows that you know you're shallow and that you can't argue with me.
"men are more shallow than men". the freudian slip of a misandrist. funny not to end this conversation on :D
it just proves that im right. what are you so afraid of?
women don't have as stringent standards for when it comes to money. All a man needs is to be financially stable, not rich. But for men, they're always looking for someone 15-30 years younger.
Well you should tell that to women in my city lol.
i've been around long enough. no need to lie
no woman demands a rich man. but men on here insists on a woman younger than him
ohhhh... its not just one person... there's wayyyy more.
Okay go to the girls on only fans. There's loads of em. Women want to be the center of attention and there's no disputing that. Could be with her man or all the men and hell, even the women. But she wants to be the most paid attention to person always. Speaking from years of experience here.
because a woman's value is based heavily on her beauty and how many men she can attract. this is the same reason why girls show off their beauty on instagram. because they know that a woman is nothing without her looks. why not show it off while you still have it? take a look at how men shit on older women. A woman must be beautiful in order to have any worth in society
men complain about women showing off their bodies on instagram, meanwhile they only want to date hot chicks 15-30 years younger. how hypocritical.
Pay attention to why women break up or cheat. "he wants paying enough attention to me" every time.
haha... maybe she wouldn't have cheated on you if you didn't look soo old. Pretty young ladies will always be more attracted to hot young men than some old geezer
Are you retarded? I said when they break up OR cheat. I said what women say, it's all over gag. wasn't talking about me. I'm married.
men cheat more than women. women divorce more than men.
That has no bearing on what I said. The woman wants to be the center of the universe. Her wants to her are also her needs and she needs it all, always. The guy can bang her and move on, no big deal. Women in the west have issues regulating their wants with practicality.
i think there is a whole another point you're avoiding here. its the fact that a woman's value is completely based on how much attention she can get from men. annd also the fact that men love showering pretty women with attention.these things you can't ignore.
That's funny, I don't think Ruth Ginsberg got her position based on looks.
@zagor 1 person does not disprove the general rule encompassing billions of people.
@zagor by the way, ruth wasn't ugly when she was young. in fact, she was pretty attractive
i think men obsess over looks more than girls obsess over money.
the hate on older women on GAG and youtube is REAL.
why would you blame women for that? men only want to date women 15-20 years younger.
I wasn't "blaming" anyone for anything here. I was just answering the question, and it's just a fact that women are far more shallow and narcissistic.
you can't blame women for showing off their beauty if men all want women 15-20 years younger. i think men are the more shallow of the both genders
Where do I "blame" anyone here? I wouldn't want someone 15 to 20 years younger, because a girl that age would be far too immature and we'd have absolutely nothing in common.
its easy to say you don't want someone 10-20 years younger, but your actions says otherwise.
have you seen the hate and condescension on older women on this website?
No, I haven't, because I haven't been here long enough (I'm still Xper 1).
My "actions"? What on EARTH are you going on about now? You don't know me. I only just joined GAG yesterday.
uhh... please... i've met enough guys in my lifetime to know that they only want a significantly younger woman.
Well, you obviously have not met ME! Geez, why are so many people, of BOTH genders, so emotional and irrational? Why do so many of them not understand basic logic? Just because in your experience most (or all?) of the men have been after younger women, that doesn't mean that we ALL are! Do you understand that important distinction?
I think its about time you start being honest rather than to lie to save your own dignity. You KNOW vast majority of men want significantly younger women. You just have too much pride to admit it.
I AM being honest! WHY would I lie about something like this? You just can't accept the fact that you're actually wrong about something you've believed to be true your whole life. I actually do NOT "know the vast majority of men want younger women", because I simply do not personally know the vast majority of men on planet Earth; I've never met them.Pride? Pride is a SIN!
I'm not gonna accept what you're saying. Because you clearly know what you're saying is a lie. Do you really think I'm 5 years old, I'm gonna believe in everything you say?
Oh come on woman! Display a little humility and common sense here. It isn't hard to admit to being wrong you know. I wouldn't even know what to do with a woman who was, for example, only 30 years old. She still has the mind of a teenager as far as I'm concerned. We'd have precisely zero in common, and as for sex, well I lost interest in that when I hit 40.
I think its you who needs to grow up a bit more. Quit all the accusations and learn some humility
You're insane. Get help. Good bye! :*
Calling me insane won't make me believe in your lies.