Do short men have any chance with dating in 2022?

[coachTanthony]

No chance

Yes of course

see poll ( Coach you are my short king )

[MCheetah]

Yes; if a short man is rich. Rich; wealthy, affluent, prosperous, financially well-off, opulent, loaded. Then he has a chance! :)

"Jeff Bezos is 5'7 and he found someone. What's your excuse? Height doesn't matter!" 🤪

Then again, non-ich short men have a chance, too. A 0.0000000001% chance, is still a chance, after all! It's not technically impossible! Just gotta find a girl who's into a "Short King." Assuming those women actually exist and aren't just getting views on TikTok, that is.

Some women want a Short King, according to TikTok. But is that true off TikTok?

Lastly, you'll always get the contrarians telling you "It's not your height, it's your attitude!" From women dating/married to men who are 6'1"+,
from men who are 6'2" and ex-Marines who still have abs,
and from 6'3" "can't get a date" men who go "I have this one friend who's only 5'10 and he gets more women than me!" without mentioning said friend's income level, simping required, number of rejections beforehand, or quality of women (who are all 4s and under, if that).

When you stop giving a f...

So yes, it is technically possible to be a short, non-rich Western man and get a quality caring partner who doesn't just want you for your assets, just like it's technically possible to time travel through a black hole and come out the other side alive.

But sure, people will love to tell you that there's NO difference whatsoever between a 5'8" all-around decent guy who's never going to find someone who loves him as he is, versus the 6'3" Chad who gets women so effortlessly, he doesn't even respect women in often often they throw their pussy at him. Claiming "attitude matters" just changes whether a girl dislikes you and would never date you, or if a girl hates you and would never date you.

Me? I've always been too short to find a date. No woman has ever been satisfied with my height except for one, and she passed away a decade ago. Yes, that one 6'3.5" love of my life does somewhat contradict my other logic, at first. Until you realize that she was one of the 0.0000000001%. But if she's taken from you in this world, did she ever really "count"?

"Do [non-rich] short men have any chance with dating in 2022?"

Sure, you do. 1 in 10 billion. Now all you need is 2 billion extra people on the planet and you'll have your one waifu out there. Now stop complaining about being short, you sourpuss! 🙂

[Lookingforthetruth]

I bet the person who disagreed was some male simp.

[Novacane]

My personal opinion on this is that of course, anybody has a chance BUT it's going to be much much more challenging for you. You must understand that 75-80% of women will automatically reject you based on your height. Now of course there are some women who dont care about height but you will need to make up for that in many ways, so you will have to excel in other things so start getting better at those things. I think short guys have a better chance when you find someone during your teen to young adult life so like ending at 21-22 because after that a lot of girls standard will start to go up and sadly you will not measure to those unless you become better at other things to compensate. Also, you will have a better chance if you already know the person or if they are a friend of a friend, or coworker because approaching women will only get much harder but get used to the rejections. Remember a lot of girls will say "There are girls that dont care about height" which is true BUT they would prefer taller if given the opportunity.

[purplepoppy]

I think it's pathetic how guys use the fact they're not 7ft tall as an excuse. A two minute glance at the general population tells you men of all sizes, incomes, status, dick size, etc manage to find dates. It's not the lack of height that puts girls off, it's the crappy, whinging attitude

[Mendex]

Yes it is very easy as a women to say that and again gaslight short men. When all women regardless of hight gets hit on. But as a guy getting no matches online and seeing a large number of women stating 6 feet only etc or being rejected at first glance (keep in mind you are being rejected in this cases before she even sees your attitude). What you are saying is short men should be quite about this because it doesn't make you feel good that women are very shallow in their mate selections. And let me guess you are probably going to dismiss all this and call me bitter or something. It is what it is what sucks it the hypocrisy and many short men wasting time in fruitless pursuits when they had no stood no chance to begin with. Yes very few women would give shirt men a change or even be attracted to them these are the only women they should find and hit on.

[Puppystarfish23]

Definitely. I know loads of girls who date short guys. Just look at Justin Bieber, Tom cruise and Tom Holland who happens to be dating one of the most stunning women in the world, women go crazy for them. Hight has nothing to do with dating everyone likes different things.

[coachTanthony]

You can't really compare movie stars to normal short kings.

[Puppystarfish23]

I also said I know loads of girls who dated small guys

[Puppystarfish23]

My sister and sister in law partners are both 5ft6/7. I also work with loads of men and some of them are very short and still manage to be in long happy marriages with kids and everything

[coachTanthony]

Oh okay cool!

[SomeGuyCalledTom]

Tbh I'm sick of the "woe is me" some guys have over their height. So let's clear it up now:

YES, being over 6ft is an "unfair advantage" in dating.

NO, you're not denied opportunities if you're under 6ft. It just means you're playing on the 'standard' difficulty mode that the game designers of the universe gave the majority of men throughout history. Tall guys get to play on easy mode, sure, but the problem with playing the game on easy mode is that you have no impetus to get better at actually playing the game, and it's only a matter of time before those women realise the tall guy they're dating has just bean "Dean Takahashi'ing" his way through the first level over and over, and doesn't have any of the other skills that other players earned by slogging through the early game on hard mode. Women don't necessarily want the guy who coasts on easy mode, they want the guy who can go into hard mode willingly, and actually come out a better player as a result.

[Lookingforthetruth]

Making a lot of assumptions here. Tall men work just as hard as short men. There desire to self improve is not dictated by wanting female approval.

Also tall men on average tend to make more money in life and move up faster in their career due to the halo effect of their height. So they also out edge short men in this regard. Also, tall men are more likely to have positive social interaction, socialize more and develop their social skills.

Short men can get a wife but by in large it will be a woman who makes less than them (aka she is mainly with him for financial resources and status) and will never truly have that lustful desire that men have when they see women. Now you may be asking how much would a short man need to compensate for this? From studies done in the past, for a man to gain 2 points on a /10 attractive scale he would have to make 10x the woman salary. Asian men who are on short side of the male spectrum need to make 200k more than their white counterpart to be considered equal standings to a white male when it comes to white woman.

[Dboy97]

Do some girls care? Yes

Do some girls have a strict personal preference about a guys height? Yes

Do some guys have strict personal preferences about a girls butt or boob size? Yes

I’m an average looking athletic 5’ 8”, my most recent ex was 5’ 6” and very attractive. While I was with her (7 years) I had two female coworkers who liked me and would have dated me if I broke up with her. One of them was 5’ 6” and a literal swim suit model, and her ex’s were all 6’+ college basketball players…. The other was about 5’ 5” and also veryyy attractive.

Would they have dated me at first glance on an online dating site? Probably not. But after getting to know me that changed. Personality, being funny, and confidence (not to be confused with arrogance) are the bigggggest factors guys need. Whereas looks are the biggest factor for girls. Men are attracted to looks, women are attracted to what they hear. I’ve worried about my height maybe 2 or 3 times in my life. Mostly just because I would like to be in a heavier weight class for boxing.

If your vertically challenged, go to the gym, get in shape, take care of yourself, BE CONFIDENT. If you’re reallllllly worried about it, or need extra weight on the other side of the scale because your extra short, or short and not good looking or whatever, learn a combat sport. One of the reasons girls are attracted to tall guys is the innate desire for a protector. If you can check off that box in other ways, it will compensate. Not with all women, but it definitely works for some. In fact I’ve never met a single guy my height or below at the MMA gym or boxing gym that didn’t have a girlfriend/wife/ex/friends with benefits.

[Lookingforthetruth]

"Do some guys have strict personal preferences about a girls butt or boob size? Yes"

The vast majority of guys aren't turning down women for not having big enough butt or boobs. From this equalized equality bs i can already see this argument is starting from a dishonest premise.

[Dboy97]

@Lookingforthetruth clearly your English comprehension is lacking. Did I say “all” or “a majority” no I did not. I said “some.” Why? Because SOME do. My brother is one of them.

[Lookingforthetruth]

but you are still being dishonest because the amount of men that will turn women down for a small butt or tits is insignificant compared to the number of women that will turn men down for height. The disparity gap is so great that one should not even frame ones narrative to suggest they are comparable.

[Dboy97]

@Lookingforthetruth lol I see what you’re saying but nothing I said was dishonest bro. I stated simple facts, YES there are girls who care, and there are guys who care. The amount of them is not the point. However, if you really want to get into it, it’s more of a sliding scale for both situations. If a girl has absolutely no body/boney/anorexic, she will be turned down by a majority of guys. Just like a guy who’s 5’ 0” will be turned down by a majority of girls. The closer to 6’ you get the more women are willing. Just like the closer you get to a big butt/boobs the more guys will be interested. AND at the end of the day, personality can trump height with women. Where it can’t for guys. If we aren’t physically attracted on some level there’s no chance. The rest of my previous answer is a good example of this. I was literally shocked when one of my female coworkers told me the swimsuit model said she liked me. I kid you not her most recent ex was a 6’ 2” college basketball player. Did that require her getting to know me first, yes, which is why I said it wouldn’t have been the same on a dating app or bar. But the point is, height isn’t as massive of a deal as y’all make it out to be. Heck, most girls just want a guy tallER then them. And the average female height in the US is 5’ 4”.

Stop trying to argue that the dating world is unfairly rigged against you and go work on improving the aspects of yourself you can actually control.

[Ukrainiangirl7]

Ok, so I liked 2 shorter guys in my life- when I was taller than half the guys in my class - and one didn’t like me like that, the other one might have liked me a little, but maybe he just liked me as a person. We never dated. I have since only liked taller guys. I am on the shorter end of tall for girls. I’m 5’7.5 so almost 5’8.

I personally just feel big and uncomfortable with a shorter guy. I feel like I can view him as a small person- as a friend. Maybe it has something to do with I don’t want to be dominant.

That doesn’t mean that short girls won’t like short guys. And some tall girls don’t mind short guys either. Just watch Abby and Josh Herbert. They’re married and are super cute together and have a baby. He’s the definition of a short king. Notice, he’s cute and also works out and is kind. There girl is also kind.

[WhiteSteve]

Voted C because you’re my Short King😂 but the answer is B. I’m 6’2, I’ve done pretty well for myself I guess, but I’ve had my slumps too. All of my short friends are dating or married. My most romantically hapless friend is 6’3 and a good looking dude, but he’s got some weird quirks and has unrealistic expectations. He also doesn’t take the best care of himself so he’s out of shape, which concerns me just on a health level, but I think it sinks him with women who initially like his face. He’s also joined at the hip with his mother still, at 44. That doesn’t help lmfao. He’ll land the occasional Tinder MILF (-ish👹🤣), but those are usually one and done.

My short friends are all married or dating. 6’3 and handsome only gets you so far, the deal is sealed by your personality.

[SoftCliff]

Not this 4chan question again. It's 2022 🙄 Yes, they do.. Actually only 10% of guys are over 6'0, so by this logic the majority of guys would be single. A lot of people online are either trolls, or incels. Or they're very young and/or immature. So I wouldn't take some of the comments here seriously

[melanieeeB]

Yeah of course! What a stupid question. You all realize that there are enough short women outside right? And that women are all different and just cause some only want to date 6' tall guys, doesn't mean all women that ever came to exist, agrees with that.

[GlassTop]

Would u date a 5’5” guy?

[melanieeeB]

I would and I have.

[GlassTop]

Would you date a guy who can pick u up and manhandle you?

[Mendex]

From men prospective it is very clear that women overwelmingly in the west, I not sure about other places in the world, really dispise short men and tall men are very desired. Like they have become a status symbol for women. Women will not admit they are this shallow and gaslight short men to death. Of course not all women but the vast majority. I am not saying you have to be 6 feet tall but if you are 5.7 or shorter it's like wearing a crown of thorns :(

[AnnaTumbles]

Being attractive increases your chance of success. Being tall is a major mediator of attractiveness in men. Does this mean that if you're not tall you won't get a date? No, but you'll be fighting an uphill battle. You need other redeeming qualities. Correction: you'll need a lot of other redeeming qualities.

It will be harder, but it doesn't mean it isn't impossible either. Don't dwell on your height on your profile and focus on what you bring to the table as a person. I am sure you can find someone on OkCupid.

[Mendex]

Finally an honest answer from a women... The only thing is I wouldn't be so sure a short guy would find someone on OK cupid. Being tall is like a requirement you need to date western women unfortunately. I am a short guy 5.6' and I had basically given up until I found my wife. Otherwise I was on my way to being single forever.

[Ms_Facesitter]

Of crouse they stand a chance. But first they need to get over their height insecurity if they want to increase those chances.

[coachTanthony]

I agree. Most short guys are insecure about it and if they can't change it they may as well own it.

[Ms_Facesitter]

I have seen plenty of guys who are under 6 ft or even 5'7 who were attractive and they all had one thing in common, they believed in themselves.

[coachTanthony]

Again couldn't agree with you more.

[ShaTTeredMasterpeace]

Of course they do. Most shorter guys have big personalities and that's super attractive to me.

[coachTanthony]

Yes many short kings step up the game of making a woman laugh and excel in other areas of their life. Many tall guys are boring, no personality because they think them being tall will get them by and it doesn't.

[ShaTTeredMasterpeace]

Lol absolutely

[ShaTTeredMasterpeace]

@Em9585 lol go troll somewhere else weirdo

[Jay20thagreat]

Great! You can also pick him up and sit him on the toilet when he he has to go or buy him a potty and you can protect him from getting beaten up by 2nd graders.

[ShaTTeredMasterpeace]

@Jay20thagreat awww did a short king hurt you?

[Jay20thagreat]

Not at all lol. I just don't understand why men of higher stature are generalized as boring or dull when we cannot control our genetics, just as we can't control our race or the size of our dongle. Why can't short men be praised, accepted and loved without disparaging tall men? It's not a man's height that determines his worth or value, it is his character or lack of that is important and both can fall short when it comes to treating a woman like the Goddess she is.

[ShaTTeredMasterpeace]

@Jay20thagreat where did I put down taller men? If anything I hate the whole height debate. Because a person's height has fuckall to do with who they are.

[ShaTTeredMasterpeace]

@Em9585 ma'am/sir you're on MY comment lmao. Go be a weirdo at the block party.

[Jay20thagreat]

The comment was in reference to what was said in the conversation not pointing any fingers. Love all around.

[Mendex]

Being tall does get them by. They get most of the women. Coz women care about hight more than anything else when it comes to dating.

[letuswaltzforthedead]

Fortunately, no. It does seems that most women have a preference for men who are at least a few inches taller, if not a man who is 6"+. Are there women willing to date short guys? Of course, but those are usually guys who make up for their height in other ways (insanely rich, highly successful, etc). This is a normal preference that has existed since forever, women will prefer a man who is more able, and it being 2022 changes nothing. 😊

[EricWeston]

I married a hot woman and I'm only 5'7.
I wasn't Insanely rich or highly successful, I was cute though. I was pretty good in bed, popular and fun to be with. We fell in love.

[U4ea0]

You do realize that men 6+ feet make up at most 14% of the population, right?

[U4ea0]

I think she is a troll. I'm 6 feet exactly. What do you mean by less able? Unless you are after basketball players, height has nothing to do with ability. If anything it hurts you.

This women is an idiot or she is a troll. No man is going to bother with you. Certainly not the insanely rich or highly successful.

[letuswaltzforthedead]

@U4ea0 women prefer taller men. Women are hypergamic, usually meaning they will seek out the best guys available. Even if she doesn't want to date a giant basketball player, women still tend to like men who are in the top 20% percent of whatever category, including height.

[letuswaltzforthedead]

@EricWeston thank you for the story, I'm glad you were able to find someone for you 😊

[EricWeston]

You're welcome, I've actually had a handful of really cute girlfriends as well.
Height is nice to have, but it really isn't everything. My ex was dating a guy that was much taller when we met and she chose me.

[U4ea0]

That's still an enormous amount of women left out in the cold. I know women may have a preference, but when you consider of that 15% MAYBE 5% make close to $100,000+ a tear.

[U4ea0]

I guess I should say what does she have to offer a man in the top 20%? Not to brag, but I'm certainly one of the top 20% in terms of occupation and income. If she even wanted me to consider her, she had damn well be nearly a virgin and better be a 10. Anything less, and she is being presumptuous.

[MCheetah]

@U4ea0
Really, six feet is in the 80th percentile, meaning 20% of men are that tall.
Five-eleven (not that it isn't in the failing zone) is 64th percentile, meaning 36% of men, more than one-third, are taller than that.
Five-ten is 55th percentile, and so, most women will have higher expectations than about half of all men.

Women ARE hypergamous and only want the top 5-10% of all men, in any given category. Not saying it isn't BS and they aren't stupid for still wanting this in the 21st century (especially given how many of them are below average and still expect elite men, because vagina), but it is what it is. I find that the more I understand women, the less I'd want to be in a relationship with one. Women suck, to be honest. *Most women, at least.

[U4ea0]

@MCheetah No, men who are 6 feet and over are 14.5% of the population in the US.

[MCheetah]

@U4ea0
If that's what you want to believe...

[U4ea0]

@MCheetah I'm sure you could devote 2 minutes to verification of this simple fact as others will do. Very simple.

[MCheetah]

@U4ea0
Again. "If that's what you want to believe..."

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[Staximus]

I'm short, like 5'7". If a girl is taller than than me, I can understand her wanting a taller guy. If she is shorter than me but only wants a guy 6' plus, then she can piss off with her daddy complex. The worst is these women with dating profiles that say some bullshit like "I'm 5'4" but 5'8" in heels so you have to be at least 5'10". Talk about superficial. Rejecting men because of your shoes? Really? I have seen a bunch of dating profiles that say some bullshit like that over the years.

[Texasgal95]

Just got a find the right person that doesn’t care about if you’re tall or not. My boyfriend and I are the same height and I love it. I look at your character not the height

[Anonymous]

Yes. Just NO CHANCE with those women that have a height bias. Just like fat women have NO CHANCE with men with a weight bias.

Sure nobody likes rejection. And it's especially maddening for something you cannot change. But I operate from the attitude that there are 4 billion women on the planet. Not everyone of them need be attracted to me. Just one special one hopefully. Who accepts everything about me, my good points and my faults.

And I pity those women who have a height bias. Because the only person they hurt in the end is themselves. Because they shrink thier dating opportunities needlessly. And I'm not complaining about it they're free to do it. But they really have no right to complain if they have trouble finding a partner because of it.

[Aerissa_Jade]

Sure they do, my man is only 5'9 is that considered short or tall? I mean if tall is better, why stop at 6 feet or 6 and half or 7... lets go for 10 feet tall or more. We can do it with genetic engineering.

[Savannah194]

@coachTanthony why not? I go out with a guy or girl based on their personality not looks weight or height. if we start always going out on looks god help us

[DenizLikesTennis]

@savannah194 Amazing 🥰 so so so awesome!! God bless!! We need more like you! I am not saying others are not worthy but everything would be sooo much easier

[DenizLikesTennis]

I started to not care about looks anymore. I also want 100% personality in a woman. She shall be mature, intelligent, caring and compassionate.

I wish you the best and so much luck in finding the right man!

[Savannah194]

@DenizLikesTennis yeah it does make since and thank you so much im starting to lean towards girls in case I can't find a good man

[IAteTwoFullHams]

Yeah, they absolutely do.

Being tall is *helpful* when dating, but guys who think it's the whole game are just objectively wrong.

The vast majority of short men find love.

[EmbraceThePain]

Yeah agreed

Not saying height doesn’t matter at all

But the level and passion I’ve seen some men take this is just unreal lol

[Smashingdoozy]

Uh yes. Unless being short is the only personality you have (in a negative way) it's honestly like women who think men won't like them because they have small boobs... Like nobody fucking cares and if they do care they're too shallow to be wasting your time on anyway.

[cth96190]

Men who are less than six feet tall have a chance only if they are rich.
Stacey will marry a millionaire, then fuck her personal trainer, tennis coach, her bad boy drug dealer and possibly the illegal immigrant pool boy on the side.
She will duty fuck her husband often enough to keep the money flowing.

[Kreneman]

Nowadays, statistics have changed, women have changed, and the dating world have changed whereas attractiveness have evolved in many ways that we could not have imagined. The New saying now is there's always someone for everybody and that is extremely true.

[Lookingforthetruth]

Stats still show that most tall men clean shop when it comes to hookup/casual dating. Short men have a chance if they make significantly more than the woman they are dating and is only given a chance when the woman is looking for a LTR (retirement plan).

[Kreneman]

@Lookingforthetruth That's true too, plus if she have baggage, struggling, don't have a career goal or have been hurt to much, they will settle with Short man or even another bad man plus an unattractive man.

[dustybiker]

We are what we project. Think about what you are attracted to.

Short, tall. A bad attitude can always screw it up. That’s usually what sinks a person.