Is "creepy" just another way for women to call men ugly, unattractive, short, or otherwise undateable without coming off cruel or shallow?

[MCheetah]

Question inspired by the worst show on television/streaming (this month.)

Chris Pratt 2010: "Creepy." Chris Pratt 2020: "Hot! 😻"

When certain women call men "creepy," is it just code/a euphemism for "ugly," "short," or "unf*ckable"? Cause it seems like it is and always was.

Yes!

No.

[Lookingforthetruth]

bodybuilding. com/misc and others have literally tested the theory of what one can get away with base on looks. There was one social experiment that I remembered, where the male profile stated that he was a sex offender who previously raped little girls. And yet decent looking women kept engaging with said profile in conversation and flirting with him even when he had the personality of an autist.

Hell, recently there was a story of a pretty good looking, white male pedophile that actively targeted single mothers on dating sites so he can get to their daughters. And women found nothing creepy about this guy because he managed to do this over several years.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/hbeEuYAZFL4

[Overlooking the title this video parodies what is being said]

Creepy most of the time just used by women to deflect why they are turning down your sexual advances as a man. It's similar to how girls will try to spin that they didn't go out with a good guy because he wasn't really nice and was just wanted to be intimate with her.

[MCheetah]

That video is so f*cking accurate, a man had to have written it.

[sirderpsalot123]

This is true for a lot of women.

I was watching a video of this drunk/unconscious girl passed out on a random guy, random guy is holding her and stroking her hair as he intensely stares into her eyes (I think that's creepy), while her friends are recording from a distance, saying how "cute," it is.

The next day, they post the video, in hopes that the creepy guy will reach out and contact them. All of the comments are agreeing and saying how they'd make such a "cute," couple.

If this was an unattractive guy, I wonder how many would consider this predatory behavior "cute"

[Ms_Facesitter]

No I call you creepy if you give me "I'm going to kidnap and rape you" vibes. I've been hit on by handsome men before who gave me those vibes. If you get in my personal space, grab my wrist when I try to walk away, try to pin me against a wall, don't know what 'no' means, try to follow me, sorry but as sexy as you may look, all I want to do in that moment is run as far away from you as possible. I feel threatened.

[MCheetah]

A guy would have to be the size of The Hulk to make you feel threatened!
But I understand. Sorry that happened to you.

[Ms_Facesitter]

No. They don't have to be crazy big. A man is still a man, more physically capable than me. Speaking of which, a man who lets out his anger, destroying or slamming something, raising his voice for getting rejected. Also raises that creep alert.

[MoniqueTLC]

Creepy is more to do with how a guy makes us feel. He'll evoke our emotions that cause us to feel uneasy, uncomfortable and even fearful. This is why we put our defenses up, regardless of whether or not he's attractive.

Guys that give off the 'creepy' vibe are the type that haven't necessarily developed enough social skills around women hence why they don't know how to act and make us feel uncomfortable.

[monorprise]

So what your saying is you define "creepy" as men in the "otherwise undateable" category for "want of social skills" to "Make you feel comfortable".

Few young women have enough knowledge of their own feelings as to clearly identify cause. Indeed this can be a rather difficult task even for old women with the way they are raised and their brains work.

A man who is one day is rejected for "lack of social skills" goes and works out, or otherwise gets a make over and suddenly he is irresistible. Did the man change or did the way the woman judged his every action change?

Sometimes nothing changes at all in the man and the woman's feelings about a man change only because something in her changes like that time of the month.

Women who are taught to embrace their feelings rather than their reason have over-wired the emotional part of their brain to everything and as such have far less clear control of anything.

[MoniqueTLC]

@monorprise 100% get your point. that 'man' who gets the makeover will be less deemed as 'creepy' because a woman's first instinct when she looks at him is that he's attractive, and when she's attracted to someone a lot of the time all other aspects get ignored, or we justify them because of the attractiveness. (similar to ignoring Red flags)

I'm not defining it as exactly that, just as a broader term, which, as we know, not everything follows a linear line when it comes to these type of things :)

[Part2603]

Ding ding ding! It's about social status, and feelings, and not about safety.

[monorprise]

@moniquetlc There is nobody is perfect, the problem is the ratio of men women find "undateable" is reflecting an affordably high standard which is leaving 50% of women with no man or family at all.

That women also tend to think the top 20% of men reflects half the population is helping to explain why. A lot of women think the options are far better than they, and why shouldn't they after all they are bombarded by cheap attention that inflates their egos causing them to further miss-judge the market.

That so many women failed to noticed this fact from the prolonged failure to secure a "good" man until it was too late for them or they gave up is either a result of cultural pressure to NOT compromise, the arrogance of youth, or a feminist believe in being alone forever.

[MoniqueTLC]

@monorprise You are very knowledgeable, can I DM you for more insight?

[Part2603]

Wait, are you serious? Is he actually getting through to you?

[monorprise]

@moniquetlc I appreciate your interest in seeking other points of view and knowledge, but one does not become wise in any topic by speaking privately. I keep my exchanges public so that even people like @Part2603 may add their 2 cents to the consideration.

There is always a chance someone may add a solution or information to the conversation that enriches both of us by allowing us to consider a solution or a more complete picture of the problem.

This is where much of my knowledge and insight comes from, many years of doing precisely this. Listening to people and their issues.

[MoniqueTLC]

@monorprise I really like this!

[lightbulb27]

No... uwomen have to do something to assess a male and be safe, for they are risking their lives around these stronger creatures. They've passed on centuries of knowledge deep in their emotions that differentiate safe from dangerous. Creepy describes what the man is projecting emotionally and if it sets off a bad vibe, he is challenged. Security is #1. Some creepy guys can hide it so they don't see it and others are obvious. It is as well a way to test him. If he survives the test, he may be a worthy mate.

In my experience, they are usually right when they say someone is creepy.

Creepy is what the guy is thinking in his minds eye...

[Havthrills]

Yes. Absolutely. I bet women will say no but if an ugly guy goes up to talk to them they will kick them away and call them a creep or creeping for sex. A handsome man walks up and says the exact same thing, the women will talk to them. Seen it. Many times.

[Sirenboobzilla]

No. It's usually a behavioral thing. Those who do base it off of looks are trash.

Also, you leave chubby Chris Pratt out if this! He was also super cute as a chubby guy!

[AsaKyo]

No, it just means if a guy is clearly acting disgusting and unsettling, like stalking for example, that's creepy

I wouldn't call a guy "creepy" just because he happens to be any of the things you described, and "ugly/unattractive" differs from person to person. What you or I may find ugly or unattractive might be gorgeous to someone else. Plus girls can be creepy too, so it isn't just one specific gender. (I hope you don't hate me for this lmao..)

[Iron_Man]

They like to use the word creepy old man that’s the best words they can use on a guy knowing that they hate it

[Filthy_Immigrant]

love how only one woman so far was brave enough to say yes

[LazerBean]

Nope. There are plenty of short, fat and ugly people who aren't creepy, and there are plenty of physically average and upwards men who are creepy.

[Fromdusktilldawn]

In this feminist western society its plausible

[Chthou95]

https://youtu.be/soEmFu4JSwM

[sheikalana]

Creepy is more about someone's behavior to me.

[addie14]

I don't think so because him buff is creepy the look but he is atractive

[KrisPW]

"Creepy" is about behavior, not attractiveness or looks.

[LovingLoverReturned]

Sometimes according to my observations.

[inthewasteland]

No. Women clearly would just say a man is ugly, short, or whatever.

[SaoirseS]

No. Creepy is a reference to behavior, not looks.

[MCheetah]

Can you give me an example of what things tall and handsome men said and did that still came off "creepy" to you? And how a short, unattractive man you don't know in a public place would have to say/do to NOT come off creepy to you?

[SaoirseS]

Tall is relative and immaterial since I’m under 5’ tall.

[SaoirseS]

"You got a cute butt. I'd love to eat your shit for a mile just to see where it came from."
"I'd love to take a little gook like you, put you on my dick, and spin you around."
"I'd like to take you and find out if little Asians really sob and cry during sex like they show in porn."
"How about I throw you over my shoulder, take you somewhere, and party."
"I could break you down like a shotgun and fuck you in the ass until your eyes go round."
And on and on
All people who don't know me have to do in a public place, regardless of height and/or looks, to not come off as creepy is 1) keep the smart-ass comments to themselves, 2) not come across as mad at the world, 3) not have a chip on their shoulder, 4) don't be Mr. Negative, 5) just have a relaxed conversation. It's not at all difficult.

[MCheetah]

Okay. The first lines I'd say are inappropriate and wrong.

However, the second points you made about "not coming off creepy" are all physical/visual. If a guy is 6'2", handsome, charming, and smiling, and another guy is 5'3", overweight, balding, and looks a little sweaty cause he's nervous, who do you automatically assume is going to be the one who "will make smart-ass comments, come across mad at the world, have a chip on their shoulder, and be Mr. Negative?"

[SaoirseS]

I make no assumptions about people I meet, regardless of physical attributes.

[SeriouslyFunny00]

No, creepy is not associated with looks.

[Rockstarrrrr]

That's not just women... That's everybody

[Likes2drive]

Yeah I think so

[JesseJayNeak]

Yes, it is