+1 yAssuming she's not a hypocrite and wants tradition when it benefits it, then I'd go with the modern woman.
As for the woman who said men want traditional women when they aren't themselves, how are women any different:
They still want men to make the first move.
They want a man to pay all their bills.
They don't want to live up to their own traditional values, because the 'housework should be divided', no if you want a man to pay all your fucking bills, do your own fucking part as well or date a simp who'll do exactly that and then you can lose respect for him and then complain about men again, because of your own dumb decision making.
They don't even offer a virgin body because they were being a bunch of slappers in their 20s, claiming they were 'young and dumb', all whilst claiming to 'mature faster', having the upper hand in dating and 'having an easier time getting laid' and still making shitty excuses.
But no let's complain about the hypocrisy of men sleeping around and getting praised for it, whilst women get shamed, only to participate in that double standard by choosing to date the promiscuous guys anyway.
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+1 yLook at the huge difference between men and women in the poll. When will modern women learn that majority of men want an old school wife who puts her family above her career? I want to know that my wife will always be proud of my success, give me a hug and food when I come home from work, wear skirts and pretty dresses, be intimate and loving, go out to romantic dinners, things like that. One big lie modern women are told is that traditional means a wife who is locked inside the house as if it was a prison and is never allowed to leave. She has the freedom to go wherever she wants. I would appreciate if she tells me where she's going so I know where to look in case of emergency.
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... its hypocritical that so many men claim to want a "traditional" women when they are no where close to a traditional man them selves...
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@Subarugirl You have been looking in the wrong places. Plus, the world has turned against men which makes it harder to be a traditional man.
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Im not looking but I can see here in the comments that the men droning on about how they want a “traditional” women to stay home cook and clean for them are upholding their end of the bargain. The world hasn’t turned against men, they just aren’t tolerating shitty men, so the shitty ones aren’t gonna have such a great experience unless they clean up their act and do the bare minimum to be decent human beings.
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I believe you were the first one to nail it on the head. Kudos. The poll was the crux of the question. The conversation was more to remove any gray area, and possibly to facilitate better understanding of one another.
I'm a bit of both, I love cooking for my boyfriend, surprising him, caring for him but to me thats just being a partner and lover. He also does the same, and sometimes cooks for me, however I'm not traditional in the sense I could never stay home all day everyday, some days sure! But not 24/7. I also want children when the type is right.
I'm also a modern woman in the way I'm in university studying computing for a year, and then after this I'll be doing 3 years of either cyber security or computer science. I grew up poor, and I see the affect it has on children, so when I have children I want them to not have to worry about where their next meal is coming from, I also chose a computing degree as it's flexible for career options, meaning my schedule means I could work from home some days, which = more time with kiddies! But I also love learning, so its not the sole reason for getting a degree.
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Iy sounds like you learn more traditional than modern, but that's from my own perspective on the two. Traditional, to me, doesn't mean locked in the house, but I would say higher education and career vs home maker is a modern attribute.
I would caution you to not wait too long on children, given post age 35-40 it becomes more difficult and dangerous.
Interesting pool, I believe the bond between the husband and wife is one of the most important thing for the child, especially in younger years, it is very important for the bond to be strong. In this messed up world this is still something people can recognize i think. and so basically as long as the partners manage to do that, whether it’s through ‘modern’ or ‘traditional’ behaviors, then I think they are achieving their goal. Also modernity has come with huge changes psychology, increased freedom and allows both men and women to chose with their heart… so not all bad right
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+1 yI definitely lean more towards modern woman. I'm more focused on what I want to do with my career and less focused on getting married or having a relationship with someone. I'm open to a relationship and possibly marriage one day (depending on the person) but it's not something I prioritize. You guys can have a fit over my decision, but I'm one individual and it's MY life. Don't understand what all the fuss is about on why it's so terrible that women have the option to have careers and not get married, have kids or stay home. There's always going to be men and women who want to be traditional and have that, and there's always going to be men and women who don't want that because we're all different individuals living our lives as it should be. Don't worry, the population won't be running out anytime soon.
It's really conflicting because I wouldn't mind being a mom and would like to have my own kids, but I could always adopt if I change my mind. I can cook basic foods (grilled cheese, spaghetti, etc) but I'm no chef. I'm right in the middle between being girly and a tomboy. I wear both dresses and jeans/t shirts, will wear makeup one day and be natural the next day. If you're taking me out on a date, you're paying. If I'm taking you out, I'm paying. If a boyfriend/spouse were involved, we would both be 50/50 with the bills and with household chores, (cooking, cleaning, trash, etc.)
10 Reply1.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. I´d like the mix because though traditional sounds good at first glance. It also comes with a lot of responsibility and stress. I´m honest I´m not that keen on having kids simply because I´m not good with kids especially young ones.
Besides that I come from a liberal country. Here most students of universities are female, feminism has been influencing culture and church alike the chance of finding a completely traditional woman seems small.
Plus I´m only used to liberal or moderate traditional women (they have conservative values but have an academic degree and a job) so I´m preparing myself for a situation where both are working. Most women I know are not very keen on being a stay at home wife so why should I make them then?
I like traditional values nevertheless and I build my life on them as best as I can but I can´t imagine asking of a woman to stay arguing cooking and cleaning is a woman´s job that time seems over to me.
20 ReplyYes even though I’m 21, I’m often described as “an old man stuck in a young man’s body”.
I’m the epitome of a traditional man. I love to shop by tradition rather than go along with the trend; I prefer to shop at brands that are well made but rarely known by the masses - eg. IWC for watches, Barbour for scarves and knitwear and Rodd and Gunn for leather bags.
I prefer to send handwritten letters using a fountain pen that’s sealed with wax, I shave with a shavette, I buy shirting fabrics from English Mills and have some of my shirts made at the tailor and I attend Church (mass) in Latin. I could go on and on but I think that would be enough to describe me for now!20 Reply
+1 yI’m a mix of both. I love doing things for my partner, but like us both to share the housework and so on. I love feeling taken care of and safe with him, and love being supportive to him and showing him so much love. I would love a nice, romantic wedding.
I do not want kids personally (at the moment at least I don’t know if my opinion will change in the future - probably not) which isn’t very traditional, and I want to be able to support myself, be financially stable on my own, travel the world, get a good education & work etc. and I do not believe in old fashioned ideas. I’m a feminist (no, not a feminazi, or a man hater) which I guess isn’t traditional, I want men and women to be treated equally, have the same opportunities, etc. and do believe more women should be in power!
So overall probably quite modern with little bits of traditional in me.10 Reply2.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. Forget the name of the movie but in it, the wife who looks much like Option B sits the family down for a Power Point presentation on why they are complete shit. Very funny watching the husband and kids squirming through the PP.
In real life it is not so far removed from that. There are continual negotiations, I'll do X only if you do Y. That really gets up my nose. I'm happy to do things for you but if I need you to do something for me it is a negotiation. And I haven't mentioned the corporate performance reviews yet.
I'm much happier with traditional women who I associate with prioritizing family life and accepting men being different and being men in the same way we accept women being different and being girls.
10 ReplyI want to be a traditional woman because I grew up in a traditional family. My mom took care of me and my brother while my dad worked. My dad got sick and now he can’t work so now my mom works. She is always stressed out because my dad doesn’t do any household work.
I read studies on this topic, which found that woman who work and have children are unhappier than woman who are traditional women and have children. That is because woman have to take on a “second shift” once they get home which includes taking of the children and doing household work that their significant other didn’t do.01 Reply
+1 y"The modern women can no longer cook, they no longer want children and they are no longer warm, tidy and loving creatures who think spending time with their family is a good thing. They are probably too "independent" and "strong" to even have a family of their own. The only thing modern women have to offer men today is sex. So instead of being loving housewives who cook and raise children, they are reduced to being sexual objects only - and they are so messed up emotionally and intellectually that they often spend most of the money they make on their jobs on plastic surgery, cosmetics and tons of clothes they think will make them look good, in a desperate attempt to stay or become more attractive. Well, they have no other qualities attractive to men, so what else can we expect? This is the fruit of feminism. The fruit of "women's liberation"."
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Lol let me set the record straight since you seem to be so misinformed. I am a modern women, yet dinner is cooked and on the table every night before my husband gets home. I sit and help our son with his homework, read to him and typical play a game two with him pretty much every night. I take him to sports practice, do the grand majority of cooking, cleaning shopping, vehicle maintenance, yard care and a good part of home maintenance. I am strong, and I am independent, and that gives me the freedom to chose who I want in my life. And I do all of that wile working a full time job to financially support my family.
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you sound like a 9/10. lost a poimt for being lippy
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Well good thing balding middle aged men don't determine my value then... modern men these days...
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7/10
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and why should I care about a rating from a 0/10 that refers to women as sex objects hahahah
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this isn't limbo you dumb broad. we do t care how low you can go.
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Lol okay baldy, and we dont care what middle aged men, who can't even keep their own room clean with out a woman to mother him and pick up after him thinks about women, when he him self doesn't remotely resemble a traditional man.
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i can hear you needing the last word echoing from the walls of your cavernous vagina. you repeating your insults shows limited creativity. you bore me.
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Oooh that’s struck a nerve huh? Guess it’s not so fun having the tables turned is it?
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Let's try to reach common ground.
Are taditional men are a bunch of loud brainless apes that never read a book on their lives, like to abuse their partners, never made a single women cum and smell like used socks? No, of course not. That's a bunch of stereotype generic talk with no real value.
The same way that modern women are not all wannabe sluts, who can't cook, clean, be kind or want to have a family.
Generalizing either side is meaningless. - +1 y
What? I’ve never done any of that. I don’t even wear makeup.
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@musicbrain5 I think he's been watching too much Keeping up with the Kardashians lol
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+1 yI am a combination. I believe in the traditional gender roles, I believe in marriage I am a hopeless, romantic at heart, but I also work pay all my bills.
My mother and father were together till death due part. My mother died. My mother was mainly the breadwinner paid the bill, and my father worked as well but he’s a different breed he fix things things he cut the grass. He did pretty much everything and love cooked. He made the decisions when it came to religion and other things, but it was mainly shared.
I grew up differently. That’s why I believe a woman can have it all.20 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI am fortunate to live in a community where women being traditional is still accepted and valued, where family is still the most important priority for many women, where marriage is still respected and commitment is taken very seriously, where many children still have real mothers and feel like they are the center of her universe and grow up knowing they are loved and valued, where men want and expect their wives to be good mothers to their children during their formative years, which is so critical you their mental and emotional development and to the adults they will become.
There's no question that modern women make poor mothers and wives. They are a compromise at best. They have reduced their value to men to little more than sex. If I as a man am going to take on the risk that modern marriage poses to men, it will be with a real woman, not a modern one.
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+1 yMix of both. I learned to be self sufficient a long time ago after I moved out for college. I cook, clean, pay my bills, my mortgage, studying for my masters and have a full time job (with a beautiful paycheck).
I've got a man who's also a mix. I make almost twice what he earns. With all that, it's never been a problem and going on 2 years soon.320 Reply- +1 y
What will you do to your kids send them to a daycare
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A.) Don't have kids
B.) Won't even think about kids till I'm done with school
C.) Up until school age, what's wrong with daycare? - +1 y
So option C, the choice 90% of women will want to take. What is wrong with sending your kids off to daycare? Uh dont you want any influence over them during their most influential years? I've seen Asian kids playing pianos at 2 years old. You think thats from daycare?
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That's assuming I can't work from got, which I already can and do sometimes.
I'm not Asian nor will I raise any children I may have as such. I would raise them similar to how my parents raised me.
You're also assuming I want kids in the first place. - +1 y
Ok you won't raise your kids to be smart and talented. you'll raise them to act pretentious, protest nude in the street and be paranoid men are gonna abuse them
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Not sure how a little 18 year old troll is trying to tell me what kind of parent ill be when I don't even plan on having kids. Come back when your balls drop
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Ask most adult men grandpas too and theyll echo me. Western females have destroyed western children through their ego
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How many times do I gotta say I don't plan on kids?
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You dont plan on giving birth to any of your kids*
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Not birthing. Not adopting. I 👏 don't 👏 want 👏 kids 👏
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Sooo toxic. Worker ant lvl logic
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You're not very bright at you
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Yes🙈I🙊Am🐵
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Can't have them raised by strangers if I don't have any. Now shoo
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Its not about you its about your toxic ideology you promote.
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I haven't promoted anything to anyone. Whatever drugs you're on, please stop taking them. They're clearly messing with your comprehensive skills
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yThat is hard for a guy to answer on here. If I say I like a traditional woman with virtue more, I will be called a sexist, or someone will have Suspicions that I am against feminism and cannot get laid. Or I want women in the kitchen. Or they will think I am insecure for saying I do not want a woman who has slept around.
If my answer is the ladder, I will be accused of being a cuck or simp who panders to women. They will suspect me of being a submissive man who says, "yes, dear," to all my wife's requests, so no matter what answer I give, I will be accused of something false.
I will leave it at prefer not to say.
10 ReplyI mean to survive I have to be a mix of both. My bills don’t get magically paid by me sitting around doing nothing. And my house doesn’t stay magically clean despite me hardly being home to make a mess. So I have to be a balance of both. If I meet someone and start dating them I’ll probably remain the same as I am now. Work and take care of my home, he is however expected to take on 50% of the load if he’s living in my home.
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That's a fair deal!
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yIt depends what you mean by modern and traditional. I think most women are a mix of the two, to one degree or another. Most women are educated, have jobs and are self-sufficient as single women, as they should be.
The real distinction comes down to two things:
1) The importance they place on family, and their willingness to take time away from their careers to give their children the benefit of having a good mother at home with them during the early years of their lives, which countless studies have shown is super important in child development. Mothers who place their career ambitions ahead of their children and families are "modern women" and not suitable candidates for marriage for good, family oriented man.
2) How they view men and marriage. The women I think of as "modern women" have terrible attitudes toward men, heterosexual relationships and marriage and should be avoided.
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+1 yI guess I’m both? Not sure. Maybe modern because I have a career - I work full time, so does my husband. I also cook and keep up the house, but so does he.
Staying at home isn’t what I am interested in. We’re also not privileged enough to even afford that!
12 Reply 2.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. Definitely traditional! I've been a stay at home mom for the last 8 years and no plans on ever working. I just prefer to be raising kids and taking care of things at home.
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+1 yI prefer someone who knows the life they want to live and is a fair, decent and considerate person. Anyone male or female who has unrealistic or unfair expectations or life outlooks is someone who needs to mature. The older successful marriages we see are built on men and women working together to find their roles and goals in a relationship.
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+1 yI'd prefer a non inflated economy that was stable and not in debt.
Then I would truly enjoy a traditional marriage and if a woman wanted to be modern and a guy wanted that, they could live that life more comfortably. I avoid "vote b" like the plague on a personal level. I keep it strickly work related and leave the room asap.
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+1 yTraditional of-course. Modern western women are whores in my opinion. Femimism has destroyed the family home and tore both men and women apart by brain washing women into believing that they should be working instead of raising there family.
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Why can't they have a family and a career? That's what's normal.
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Then I'm proud to be a whore who out-earns her partner and can simultaneously cook, clean and other wifey duties 🖕
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Can't have your cake and eat it too, there isn't enough time in the world in afraid
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I'm afraid* sorry for the typo :p
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@Insaniacthemaniac of course there is. I have many women at my job, some heads of their department, who are mothers.
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For you maybe. I found my work-life balance ages ago
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Yes well you can be a mother to a child but that doesn't mean you have time for them if your working all the time. I myself experienced this as my father died at a young age so my mother had to work all the time and i can say that i didn't get to see her much.
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In the early age, when the child is a baby, it can be hard to manage time. But after they begin school it gets easier since when the parents leave work is time to get the kids, go home and spend quality time. Works the same with my men coworkers.
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Any women that takes her career seriously and wants to climb the corporate ladder will not be working part-time as your employer won't take you seriously on those hours.
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No one is talking about working part time. Of course you can't give extra hours, but you can still do a normal days work.
And each couple has a different dynamic. Depending on who makes more, who has more free time, whoever can easier stay more time at home should. - +1 y
Well then more power too them. Traditional women are better though, they're more nurturing and are fulfilling their natural biological purpose.
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@Insaniacthemaniac and that's your right to that preference. Next time, say that and leave the name calling out of it
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@Sirenboobzilla modern western women are whores, they think it in islam and you only have to go on tiktok to see how many girls shake their ass on cam for views to see that clearly when you compare western women to modest religious women that they are whores. Open your eyes up, it doesn't take a genius to work that out.
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Traditional man with a traditionally small brain. Got it. Say no more
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@Sirenboobzilla you can't even think of a logical argument to come back at me with yet I'm the one with the small brain? Delusional brainwashed feminist sheep...
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"Natural biological purpose"?
Nearly every female in the animal kingdom does hunt and protects the family. Apes, and yes humans are apes, are no exceptions. - +1 y
Dude we are not apes, we are primates undeniably yes. But every species works differently
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To us western women, Islamic views on a woman's roll are small minded and oppressive. If that is your faith, I won't impose my beliefs on to you.
Me personally, I outright refuse to be a subservient little house wife entertaining the whims of wishes of those who presume to be above me just because of what's between their legs. My father didn't raise me to accept domination.
I've worked hard for my career, and my boyfriend is aware if its umportance to me. However, my career is not my life either. I've managed to maintain a healthy work-life balance that works for me and my partner.
As for children, I don't see them in my near future. So not something I need to concern over. IF I ever do end up conceiving, priorities of course will shift. My profession allows me to work from home. And once my studies are done, it won't be difficult to find a company to take me via contract allowing me to work my own hours for a high pay.
Now, if you'll all excuse me, this eastern European girl needs a long shower after this work day
2.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. Modern women want men to be traditional whenever it benefits her but to accept her being 'modern' in all areas of life. It's a bad deal for the guy. Of course there's different degrees to it from 'a little modern' to full blown borderline butch lesbian.
00 Reply350 opinions shared on Dating topic. "R. I. P. modern woman it looks like you'll either adapt or die alone."
Lol. More like men will either learn to like modern women or die alone. The modern woman isn't going anywhere.
More for me, I guess.
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+1 yI'm weary of these terms since they don't really mean anything. "Traditional" as a definition relies on everyone sharing the same understanding of which 'traditions' exactly are being embodied. And "Modern" is a redundant term because anyone who exists in the modern day is "modern" by definition. There are surely more precise terms we could use if the goal is to separate women into distinct sociological groups.
10 Reply 1.5K opinions shared on Dating topic. Wowww , there is a pretty big GREY area in the middle , thats for sure , I like both , but I will take the business woman , that you are calling " modern " .
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It's not about the image. And there is no gray area. Just below the title I also say what do you consider modern/traditional, discuss below. This way we see your modern might be different from mine or that guy over there's definition of modern woman.
927 opinions shared on Dating topic. I am very much a traditional woman. My only dream in life was to have a family and to stay at home and take care of the one's I love.
I see your poll us at 67% at this writing. The other is only 33%, so that should tell all of us something.30 Reply- 678 opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 yYou have to be rich as fuck to be traditional in this day.
I have a job and i don't plan on not having one any time soon. I expect household work to be equally split.
30 Reply 5.9K opinions shared on Dating topic. A mix of both. Traditional women are great because they can cook and they don't necessarily try to kill you in your sleep. Modern women are good because they work and make money although they very well might try to kill you in your sleep. Both types of women will take you for everything you've got if you wind up divorcing them including your children your money all of your property everything you've worked for and your reputation. Don't get married!
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+1 yI'm a traditional man who wants a traditional woman. Modern women want to have the option for men to be traditional or modern depending on when it's convenient for them. This is why no women modern nor traditional would also choose a modern man generally speaking because they always have the option to leave with another simp.
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There are always modern men available for them but the question is do they even give them any chances?
+1 yTraditionally women worked, its always been the case.
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Feminazis at their best
I’m traditional with a pinch of modern and a dash of pizzazz 😏. Because it sounds like pizza 🍕 👍.
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+1 yWomen don't get they can't be feminist bosses and housewives at the same time, one is in their feminine submissive mindset.
The other in masculine. There can't be to leaders only one.
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+1 yTraditional when it comes to maintaining family unity.
modern when it comes to being active/involve in the community - work.20 Reply I am a mix of both, I work, cook, clean, have my own car and home. I handle almost everything and anything at home or work.
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@molonski2 I think some are, a lot aren't these day. I see more then most working in healthcare and hear even more about peoples lives and activities. These days it is a lot of we eat out 3 times a day and we do our own thing on the computer and or phones.
+1 yTraditional ofc, i'll only marry a girl who adores becoming a housewife 😌
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@Kaytiee well being a housewife doesn't mean that you're rich, maids around you in a mansion or picking a different car daily to go shop... etc
This ain't the orange county housewives series!
A true housewife is a devoted housewife, you woll adapt to what your man is earning, ofc as long as he's providing for the basics, such as bills, food and shelter... - +1 y
Where did you get the memo about maids? As you're far off. If you want a traditional woman, that stays in the house all day, raising children, cooking, cleaning etc you need to provide money to accomodate for that, as it's not cheap to have one sole bread winner, and also except delicious home cooked meals.
So many men bang on about traditional women, but forget what a traditional man had to put on the plate! No ones asking for luxuries but a housewife can't cook if she can't afford ingredients, nor will she want to be one if she's stuck in the house 24/7 no family trips, no appreciation towards her effort into the family. - +1 y
@Kaytiee well i agree with that...
If you read what i wrote that you would of understand that i'm aware of all this!
Rewards for the wife and for the husband too and for the whole family...
Ofc the man won't leave his wife hungry or naked or without a shelter!
He will treat you the way he treat himself!
Giving you the option to be a housewife is a big gift from a man towards his wife and i'm someone who see a housewife role for a woman as a norm, i don't mind working hard to provide for my future family, already did it and still doing it but without a wife cause i'm a single father...
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+1 yMy girlfriend and I are both traditional and we couldn't be any happier. You will never see me with a woman who is not traditional.
10 Reply 1.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. Modern. My man is modern to and we both enjoy it this way.
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+1 yI beat my own drum. Haven’t had complaints.
20 Reply1.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. Can you even have traditional people in today's world? Haven't we evolved from that? Isn't it better both work so you can make a $hit load of money and both retire earlier?
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+1 yTradition at home. She can cook, clean, and let me fuck her when ever I ask. Out outside modern. Wear sexy outfits, outgoing, funny.
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+1 yI'm a modern woman with pretty traditional values.
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+1 yTraditional forced to be modern because that's what men from my country want. No one wants a housewife. They all prefer women who can help financially.
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What country?
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What country are you from? Why do they want their women to work, i can understand that some want their women to work and some not but to have all your guys there wanting the woman to work means that you don't really have men, maybe just males!
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Lmfao you'd be surprised how many men actually want a traditional woman. The marriage rates as well as more people staying single has a strong correlation with feminism stripping western societies from traditional women. So you're wrong. Men DO want traditional women.
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I'm from India and men from the cities want modern women more.
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@babygirl_s i thought that people from india are traditional, i know that a lot of indie women works but drill have morals and values and have high importance for the families...
Maybe indi men wants women to work because of their economics cause maybe they aren't capable to live only on one income, you know better... - +1 y
@babygirl_s Is that so? Then how come with increasing feminism in India, especially in the cities, we see a decline in marriages? So far, I'm having a hard time finding a source that actually discusses that Indian men want modern women. Whereas I'm seeing sources that argue the exact opposite.
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They want a beautiful, virgin and highly educated woman who can earn. She should be fluent in English (considered modern here) and traditional in that she should stay a virgin until marriage and be able to cook. Housewives are not in demand. I live around Indian men. I know them better than you. Also, Indian feminism is about demanding equality which Indian women don't have unlike Western women. Acid attacks, rapes and in general crimes against women are rising.
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@babygirl_s Traditional doesn't necessarily mean being a housewife. It often means having traditional values that are assigned to gender roles. So in other words, (Indian) men don't want to bother themselves with feminists who are all about "equality" and modernity in relationships.
Also, the men you're exposed to aren't necessarily the representatives of dozens of other Indian men. I speak and have spoken to many Indian men over many years in university, work and even private to know that these men don't want some woke feminist but rather a woman with traditional values. So sorry sweetie, but I'm more informed about what Indian men truly want than you think. - +1 y
Actually Indian men want someone who can cook and work that's all. Affluent and urban Indian men don't expect you to clean the house as they employ servants for that. It is the rural Indians you're talking to since most immigrants from India have such a background. The ones living in cities usually don't leave the country.
A traditional woman according to an Indian man is someone who doesn't drink alcohol, doesn't smoke, is a virgin and can cook. It is more about her morals than gender roles over here. The alcoholic women who sleep around in the Western countries but want to cook and clean are not their idea of a "traditional woman". - +1 y
I believe the whole traditional aspect within modern day of age is it leaves room for women to still work while holding on to the traditional values and gender roles. I believe much of this has to do with economy as it is hard to come by with only a single income. And actually, the ones whom I met COME from cities. Because they pursue professions that allow them to get a good paying job there when they show they have acquired skills in countries like mine. Whereas the ones from rural regions, you see them go to places like the UAE being workhorses for little pay.
You can speculate all you want, but it won't change the fact that Indian men still want women with traditional values in contrast to women who identify as feminists, regardless if they work or stay at home. What matters to these men is that they don't have a FEMINIST breathing down their neck. And that counts for western men as well. The decline in marriage rates speak for themselves. - +1 y
There is no decline in marriages in India @TruthBringer and many urban men want women to be treated equally. Also, the majority of immigrants do in fact come from rural Punjab. I know how crazy they are about going to other countries.
Men want working women. It is a symbol of a higher status. The businessmen, doctors etc. want a woman with a nice career so they don't feel embarrassed. It is not simply about the economy. Being a rural housewife is not considered attractive.
And working women who can speak English and wear Western clothes are considered modern not traditional. When they said they wanted traditional women they meant what I have already told you.
For a Western guy any Oriental woman who has slept around and drunk litres of alcohol is "traditional" for some reason. That is not the ideal woman for an Indian guy. - +1 y
@babygirl_s
Marriage in India IS in a decline, love. That doesn't mean it still doesn't happen. Do some research:
indianexpress.com/.../
www.livemint.com/.../...survey-11657809573372.html
indpaedia.com/.../Marriage_statistics:_India
I'm pretty sure I know what the guys I've spoken meant and want. they were open for a working partner as long as she has traditional values in her when it comes to taking care of family, taking care of her husband, has no feminist views, etc. Notice how I didn't say anything about clothes? So not sure why you pulled that one out of thin air. I'm also told they don't mind if their wives stay at home if they can manage to support them by themselves. Which is one of the motivators they studied/worked in my country. Being able to do so well that they can allocate enough resources to unburden their woman or family from financial struggles. Basically on par with us western men for the most part. The point is not that they do or don't prefer a working woman who is well educated. That point was never made. The point is that they want a woman who has traditional qualities like I mentioned. So not a feminist with a diploma. Those are undesirable and for good reasons. Rather than a well-educated girl who can get a decent job and still can take care of her man in was of tradition. Even though like I said, they don't mind if they provide for the majority part if not all. That's what they told me. So it all boils down to them wanting a traditional relationship/marriage rather than a modern one.
You can believe what you want, but I'll stick to my own observations and what actual INDIAN men from various places told me. Also, the internet grants access to much information that actually reinforces my point. I much more prefer to hear it from the mouth of the horse (Indian men) than you. - +1 y
@TruthBringer Indians don't marry in their twenties that doesn't mean they don't want to marry. That is because now people are more serious about their career. I have interacted with more Indians than you because I live in India. Men are embarrassed of housewives or poorly educated women. They leave them.
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I'm talking about the cream of the crop. They want a woman who can work.
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@babygirl_s You can keep using the "I know more Indians than you do", doesn't mean you actually are accurate in debunking what I said. The stats speak for themselves. The decline is there. And modern feminism is quite known to be cancerous even outside of the west. And Indian men have picked up on that.
I stand by what I said. Indian men prefer a more traditional woman over a modern feminist. - +1 y
@TruthBringer Most Indian men want a woman who has a good balance of traditional and modern values and people marrying at 30 doesn't mean marriages are declining. Your sources are not reliable. Why don't you experience it yourself? Join an Indian matrimony website as a working woman vs an uneducated and unemployed woman. See which one gets better quality and more matches.
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Also the Indian feminists are all about gender equality. India has some very serious issues that concern women like dowry deaths, acid attacks, wife battering etc. If the men you talked to support these then you're talking to the lowest of the low.
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That's basically what I've been saying. As long as there is a healthy balance of modern and traditional in a woman, that's what Indian men want. And something you will not find within feminists as they despise anything that is traditional and can serve a man or family. Hence why (Indian) men despise feminists.
Sorry no, feminists being for gender equality is as rare as a unicorn. Feminists all over the globe have proven that they want special privileges over actual equality. These crimes you speak of are exactly what they are, crimes. Nothing legal about throwing acid on someone's face or killing your bride for dowry. So using crimes is as an argument to push the "equality" agenda is a fallacy as you're resorting to a non sequitur through the use of a false equivalence as your premises.
You've not managed to prove that Indian men truly want modern women & modern relationships.
Try again.
+1 yBeyond Modern,
somewhat effeminate, heading in the direction of transcendent.
I am child-free, and femininity always seemed like weakness posing as identity.
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+1 yAnother name for a "modern woman" is a man with a vagina.
10 Reply4.5K opinions shared on Dating topic. I like girls that stay current. If whe is the primary breadwinner, I must do more homemaking. Based on our schedules, we delegate work based on who can do it the best without one person doing everything.
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+1 yThats not traditional vs modern.
You list at home chores as separate from career, but almost every adult, male or female, is doing both.00 Reply - 5.2K opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 ySome mix of both. I enjoy working outside of the house but I also enjoy cooking and doing stuff around the house.
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+1 yI'm not into that traditional BS as the society dictates to us on how we should live our lives.
I like my woman who has her own personality and sets her own path and thinks for herself.117 Reply- +1 y
Reading through the comments I see all these guys want a traditional wife but I guarantee you nearly 97% of them can't afford one nor take care of a whole family unit in accordance to the 21th living standards.
They gonna feed their wife and kids rice and beans 5 times a week and buying them clothes from the dollar store. LOL. - +1 y
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I've taken care of a family of 4. You can do it if you're not buying $40k audi's and make your family your priority.
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@joeldalton: Believe or not you and I and about maybe everyone on this site since they have internet service are richer than about 89% of the world's population according to data.
The immense majority of the world's population are dirt poor and seriously struggling financially.
The hell you people got the stupid idea women don't work outside the home and men have to do all the work and provide alone? 🙄
Women have always worked throughout history to help with the household and raise a family and that was when living expenses where super cheap with no electricity, running water, no health care cost, no, cars, gasoline, insurance etc. - +1 y
Wait are you talking about the world or the US? Which is it? They've sold you a bill of lies and mass consumerism and you eat it up.
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@joeldalton: How about both. The medium income in the U. S. is about $44,000 pre tax.
Assuming a man in my city of Miami Fl is making that much money a year, about half is going to go the mortgage alone, fill in groceries which will be about in this current economic times of inflation about $400 a month, gasoline a month will be around another $300, light bill, internet service, entertainment for the family, vacation for the family, eating out with the family, saving for a emergency fund, car insurance, car maintenance, health insurance for the family, water bill, taxes on the house, cleaning supplies, and hygienic supplies expenses, retirement fund, school education for his kids, clothes for the family, going out with the family to sporting events and stuff like that and I'm sure I'm missing some other stuff as expenses.
The man would be under complete stress and nearly financially broke if not totally broke and undoble to support a family of his own.
And this just my city and the U. S. which is the richest country in the world. - +1 y
You don’t have to live in a city that has a ridiculous cost of living. There’s tons of places that make better financial sense.
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@joeldalton: Not everyone has the luxury to up and leave and leave their family behind.
What you think Miami is going to stay empty, people have to live there, like they have to in L. A. New York City etc.
Besides, small towns have no good job market. The good and decent jobs tend to be in big cities, not rural hell holes. - +1 y
Ok, keep convincing yourself of the BS. Meanwhile our kids are dumber, suffering from mental illness and depression so that you and your spouse can work.
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@joeldalton: BS? It's reality. You think every super market employee, Home Depot employee, Gas station workers, Mall workers etc should all leave to small towns?
How would those cities function without them?
Use your brain for once. - +1 y
There are plenty of towns that are cheaper than Miami that have Home Depot’s. AGain, I know it can be done if you’re willing to do it. Ironically you like to claim republicans get suckered by billionaires but you’re suckered Into believing you have to have two parents killing themselves and neglecting their children to fund these billionaire companies.
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@Hispanic-Cool-Guy
Rural hell holes?
I've seen hell hole cities and I've seen rural paradises. I've seen cities that tend to have an awful job market and rural areas with thriving job markets. I've been to cities covered in trash and full of homeless people and I've been to rural towns filled with happy people and overstocked foodbanks.
I've traveled the US back and forth for years and working in the trucking industry, I've seen first hand the money coming and going from counties/cities/states. Rural areas can have market booms and then market crashes, but so can cities too... - +1 y
@joeldalton: LOL... love talking to a American conservatives, love to see how dense they truly are. 😂
Look dude, the logistics of every poor person and low skill labors leaving all big cities will mean a total disaster for the economy. SMH
And no good parent is going to neglect their kids unless they are working crazy hours a week.
40 hours work week leaves plenty of time for family life for dad and mom. - +1 y
And I love leftists who think this kind of behavior is normal. You care more about a CEO than your children and try to make it sound like I’m the odd one. Hilarious.
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@joeldalton: Go read a history book dude, hope you don't lose your job or get seriously sick for a very extended time.
Those people you take care for alone might just have to eat rice and beans most days, and vacation in the back yard playing kick ball in the summer. LOL - +1 y
Thanks for proving my point. You have the audacity to diss a nutritious meal and exercising/bonding with your family. Enjoy sucking that corporate cock. Until there’s a downturn and you’re let go with a mortgage and 40k in credit card debt.
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@joeldalton: Anyone with a functioning brain who listens to you will laugh in your face. 😂
673 opinions shared on Dating topic. Modern and traditional if possible. But if I had to choose it would be a traditional women who likes to cook, clean and take care of the children.
00 ReplyA good balance between the two would be the ideal. I pretty proficient at cooking and other housework so I would be prepared to share the responsibility.
00 Reply1.4K opinions shared on Dating topic. Usually Modern Women are more Confident, But I find fairly Confident Women Unattractive so Traditional is okay as long as they aren't too Traditional so I sort of want a mixture of both.
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+1 yNo problem with woman being modern/progressive, as long as she's not a rabid feminist bent on total domination and insanity.
We have plenty of them already. Many are called "Karens."00 Reply - 339 opinions shared on Dating topic.
+1 y20% of guys say they prefer modern women.
I see here many times that "women only want the top 20% of men."
Maybe this is what they are on about.
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This site is far from an accurate representation of the general demographic. Most people here are conservative.
463 opinions shared on Dating topic. I'm probably more of a modern woman then traditional. But I'm not 100% sure.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yA modern woman with traditional values. She's an equal. I will treat her as such. I will do all I can to meet all her needs all I ask is the same. If not, I'm totally fine to be alone.
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+1 yI don’t mind either one tbh
She should be free to be who she’s wants to be 🤷🏽♂️00 Reply
+1 yMust of women follow modern and traditional
in home they are modern
in outside they are traditional
00 Replymodern you word have to be pretty rich to afford a traditional woman and lifestyle in this era.
00 Reply4.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. I would like to have modern conversations with my wife.
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+1 yTraditional woman
modern ones look like men.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yI wish I could be more traditional, but it's hard since I kinda just act however is convenient for me. It's pretty lame though.
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+1 ya modern bitch is a girl living from her heart. ♥️
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yModern women for me please. Feminist or not.
Survival on single income is challenging.
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