Why do some men ask women for dating advice?

[Chthou95]

Women give terrible dating advice that's useless. You don't ask a fish how to fish. You ask the fisherman. Women have no clue how to be attractive as a man

[UniquelyBasic]

I know where you got that fish saying and I wouldn't say they are the best either in giving advice for dating but maybe more so for hookups which are different.

[LiamJHayden]

They probably assume that the women know what women like, but since many women quite often change their minds multiple times per day it seems folly to me.

[BullShark]

First of all, I don't know where you got that stupid fishing comparison from and secondly, the way you said "women don't know any better blah blah" sounds a bit sexist and arrogant to me, so maybe you need to rephrase those words because it seems an awful lot like you're the sort of person who thinks they're better than everyone.

But to answer your question, no most of us usually don't go to women for dating advice, but it's always nice to have a mixed bag on opinions because it doesn't really hurt to know how the other person thinks of the situation and what they'd do if the roles were reversed.

It's especially useful if it's a girl you like and she's behaving some sort of way and you wanna know what's going on inside her head, why she's doing what she's doing or what she expects you to do. Now as a guy, of course, we'll interpret that in some sort of way too, but seeing it from a girl's perspective, she can tell you exactly what the other girl is doing and she can give you clear cut advice on what to do here and what not to do.

Not all female friends you make are there to screw you over and not all male friends you have, have got your back, so probably best if you develop your mentality a bit.

[Chthou95]

Okay Soyboy in general who has a better understanding on how to attract women? The gender that waits to get approached by men or the gender that has to initiate and learn how to be attractive over time?

[BullShark]

@Chthou95 did you even read a thing I said? Read my second paragraph one more time instead of just reading the first one and getting all pissy over it.

I clearly stated most of us usually DON'T go to women for dating advice and I do agree that men have a better understanding of women, hands down, period, because we learn these things in real time and then pass on the knowledge of our endeavors to our bros from personal experience.

All I was saying was that it doesn't really hurt to get opinions from both genders because it doesn't hurt to know what they think and expect from you, even if it's vague information that doesn't make sense, it's always good to have a mix of opinions. That's just me

[Chthou95]

I did write in the question why do some go to women for advice meaning that a portion of other men don't.

[misogynistic_pig]

😂😂😂

[KathrynTaylor]

We know what appeals to us as we ARE the ones who are going to be dating or marrying you. I think you asked this question to stir the pot though lol. I’ll be curious to see what answers you get.

[Chthou95]

Attracting women as a man is different. Men have to learn and develop skill from rejection and failure. You just choose who gets a yes or no

[KathrynTaylor]

Fair comment, but we know more about what we want in a man than the man knows, so as we are experts of what we like and value, why not ask us? What’s to be lost?

[Chthou95]

Because like the fella above stated women constantly are changing their minds on what they want and their actions dont align with what they say they want. Whats attractive to women and what actually turns them on are very different

[KathrynTaylor]

Some women do. I find that’s a maturity difference in younger women. Women my age usually know what they want. But yes, some are scatty just like some men are.

[Chthou95]

Yes from being screwed over by the top tier men and then you become humbled later on

[KathrynTaylor]

They’re not top tier men. They’re arseholes and everyone starts off with unrealistic expectations and becomes humbled later on.

[Chthou95]

They were top tier men. a lot of women are chasing high value men and then get hurt when this man isn't giving them what they want so they get hurt and then generalize all men even the bottom 80%

[KathrynTaylor]

They weren’t top tier men. They were married men looking to cheat on their wives, stupid with no intellect to contribute to the conversation and nasty, selfish natures. You have a lot to learn.

[Chthou95]

Men who are married or are in relationships are more attractive to women than single men. This doesn't surprise me. But whether they're loyal or not is up to the dude

[KathrynTaylor]

They understand women better I guess.

[Chthou95]

Bottom line is women have no clue about the male experience and never will. Men and women aren't the same and the dating world is not the same for both

[KathrynTaylor]

It’s true that we don’t know about the male experience. That’s why we ask men for advice. Likewise, men don’t understand the female experience. Which is why men should likewise listen to women, as women should listen to men. Which is what this whole question is all about.

[Chthou95]

The problem though is that attracting a women as a man is different. Women hold men to a high standard which is why a woman that dates other women is pointless to ask advice from because men and women are held to different standards and if i needed advice, i would rather ask a man that's had experiences and skills that helped him become successful with women.

[KathrynTaylor]

Oh, asking lesbians? Yeah, in that case I’d agree. If it’s straight or bisexual women? I’d disagree.

[Chthou95]

That's fine. You can disagree on this. But ill always have the belief that women are useless when it comes to asking advice on how to be attractive to women

[KathrynTaylor]

That’s your right to your own opinion, but you might miss out on some good insight into how women think and feel.

[Chthou95]

I know i wouldn't be missing out on anything

[KathrynTaylor]

Up to you.

[Sensualsubmissive]

I dont know about dating advice per se, but as far as knowing what women want, and the social psychological behavior, why they do the things they do, I'm not going to ask a man I'm going to ask a woman ☝🏽💯😁

[Chthou95]

You're expecting them to be honest with you

[Sensualsubmissive]

Your profile picture is of a guy shooting a middle finger... To everybody! Who can trust YOU?

[Chthou95]

Im not on here looking to be friends with anyone. I have 0 followers for a reason. But if a guy wants advice on site that allows public opinions, ill do so

[Sour-rose]

Well because men aren't any better? So you can ask a fish for sure and they're best advice is swim away or bite your finger. :)

[Chthou95]

How are they not if they have to learn to better with women? 🤔

[Sour-rose]

Weeeell it's just how it is? Unless you know of some men who knows succuessful datin' advice?

[Chthou95]

I general men have to learn to be better with women. Thus a lot of rejection and experiences

[Avishh]

You got that right never ask a women for dating advice, but there’s a better reason than the fish and fishermen example you gave. Women are emotional beings they are very careful when they speak on delicate matters like dating. They will never tell you something that might hurt you, therefore they use love language which is basically a lie. Again they don’t lie because they hate you, but they don’t wanna see you hurting. While on the other hand men will tell you exactly what it is.

[pupluv45]

Because men do not tend to talk about their innermost feelings with other men. Talking about inner feelings is something women do

[Chthou95]

If a man wants to learn, he will be smart to ask other men that are successful that have skill attracting women. Women dont have any skill. In general women wait and choose

[pupluv45]

that is not talking about innermost feelings. That is just asking for tips.

[Chthou95]

He's asking for dating ADVICE. Not for someone to sit down like a therapist and listen to his problems

[pupluv45]

men dont like to talk about their problems in their lives. thats why they suicide so much more. women meet up to talk about their feelings and problems. men meet up to watch the game or do activities.

[Chthou95]

Men are more willing to talk about their problems with other men than women. But this is about advice on dating

[pupluv45]

Men do not talk about their problems with other men. Its a fact that men do not like to acknowledge.

[Chthou95]

They do. There's a reason men dont talk to women

[pupluv45]

take a look at vast majority of therapists and social workers and counselors, they're all women. Very few men. Cuz men don't like to talk about feelings.

[Chthou95]

Men dont talk about their problems with women because men dont want to risk women using those feelings against them later on

[pupluv45]

men don't like to talk about their feelings because they dont care about each other. Women are caring about each other which is why men go to women to talk about feelings. Take a look at caring professions: nursing, social work, therapy, day cares are all dominated by women. women are simply more compassionate

[Chthou95]

I know women are angels with halos over their heads.

[pupluv45]

men are more likely to be criminals

[Chthou95]

Yup men are evil and women are angels.

[Anonymous]

I'm not a simpass white knight. I'm actually an epimystical untrannifier. But I don't think it's wrong to ask for their views. Just don't follow everything blindly.

[Chthou95]

Fair enough

[Anonymous]

And it is opinions and attitudes like this why so many men are single and will stay single forever. You are so clueless, it is hilarious.

[Chthou95]

It's a fact sweetheart. Women have no skill attracting anyone so how are they going to teach men how to actually be attractive? You ask the gender that learns and practices and has skill this

[Chthou95]

Thus this is where men are the ones that can give advice

[brezzybaby]

That's pretty messed up , I don't think men are any good at that kind of thing either.

[Chthou95]

Who approaches who and gets rejected more in general, men or women?

[7offman]

That’s easy , it’s because they don’t know any better.

[Puppystarfish23]

I bet you are so successful with women...🤣

[Chthou95]

Had to learn to be successful. Failures came with experiences. As a man you have to go through this to learn

[Puppystarfish23]

Yeah women have never experienced failure or learned anything so I can see why you don't want are advice

[Chthou95]

You don't go through it nearly as much as men do. Men initiate thus meaning they have to learn and practice. Women just choose who gets a yes or no

[Puppystarfish23]

Omg you know us so well. I'm surprised you wasted your time on us stupid air heads to notice

[Chthou95]

I know the differences between men and women well enough. We're not the same and men have to create their value to be noticed

[Puppystarfish23]

Do you watch a lot of Andrew Tate by any chance?

[Chthou95]

I've had this mentality way before Tate. Patrice o neal is the legend that talked about these things a long time ago

[Puppystarfish23]

You Andrew Tate just been arrested for trafficking right is that the mentality your talking about

[Puppystarfish23]

Know*

[Chthou95]

If that's the case, right message, wrong messenger. But innocent until proven guilty.

[tonamimargaux]

Hahaha, nothing to add. But this post is funny

[Chthou95]

Of course

[misogynistic_pig]

Because they are beta males.

[Sasha0426]

Are you ok? 🤨

[Chthou95]

No. Im a bitter guy that lives in his mom's basement

[Sasha0426]

Love the sarcasm 🤣 But, for real though.

[Chthou95]

I'm great

[Sasha0426]

Ok 👍