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I am a 21 years old University Student. Even though I am neither a bad looking nor a neglected person I have not dated anyone till. I am a 5’11” man with considerably fine physique. When I approach to girls they usually act they are as well interested. But after a while they act they are bored.
Interesting that we are somewhat similar, but our attitude is very different.
I'm also 21, 6'0 and with a decent physique. Difference between you and I is that I actually don't care. Let me give you a little secret: the LESS you care, the MORE they do.
Initially, you have to put in just the right amount of effort to get their attention, but not too much so it looks like you're trying too hard. Once you're there, you should start to take away your attention. If they like you enough, they will try to win you back. If they don't, then nothing will come out of it. Women like men who seem important that they can't have immediate access to, so you're got to find something to keep you busy so you don't constantly reply to texts. The gym is a good place to start, but you can also learn how to play an instrument, sing, box or play a sport of your choosing. Having something to look forward to (or a hobby as they say) will not only make you genuinely more busy, but it will make you more interesting as a person, because there's always something to talk about.
Also, something I learned. DO NOT reveal everything about yourself right away, then you take away all the suspense. Like an onion, you gotta peel one layer at a time. If you can speak another language for example, don't tell them. Wait for the perfect opportunity where you can do so to surprise them, and then be humble about it like it's not a big deal. If you can play a guitar then don't tell them, show them instead. At the same time, don't always show all your tricks, you gotta keep some to yourself so that you seem more interesting.
I've just touched the tip of the iceberg, but there's more. You probably need to A) learn how to be more nonchalant and B) add more layers to who you are before you start dating. Remember that impressing a girl will not make her your girlfriend, you still have to learn what to look for in a relationship partner and how to keep a relationship going to progress further to marriage rather than end in a break up.
All the best 👍🏾
Well said kid
You're probably not exciting. Probably too agreeable. Need to spend time on your game. Go read some books.
Start with this one.
Great book.
The 48 laws of power and the art of seduction are good too
@RandomGuy1030 They are very good books indeed.
I would say watch movies too. Watch how hot men in movies attract women
LmaoOooO fair points and for humble mention: I pick and choose what I gather from books and movies. Not all of it is credible.
Penny wise is a *male* clown and I don’t think he picks up ladies, in the best of ways 👀😂
#InsertInstructionsUnclearJokes
But to be fair, it does seem like a helpful tip to consider. 😂🤜🤛
And @coachTanthony not a prob! lolz
Nice
Okay I’m not going to lie but I’m 23 soon to be 24. Last relationship I was in was back in 2019 long term, but I was in a situationship here in 2021. Anyways there is this guy that I really like. We share similar interests, but it seems like he won't look at me. We teased each other before I left that job due to issues that happened with management. I didn’t get his number or his Snapchat but I did ask him out for drinks. He said he was talking with someone and I left it at that as I didn’t want to give my information to him if he was just going to throw it away and I didn’t want to look desperate. Anyways I keep seeing him online, as in dating apps and everything. Haven’t seen him outside of work and whenever I see him I know he sees me too online. I don't know what’s being said about me over at my old job and he’s afraid to swipe right or he just isn’t interested in me. Long story short, I look at looks and what they do for a living. Not going to lie but I hate clingy guys. One guy I’m talking to every morning calling me beautiful. But to me it seems like he’s overdoing it. I want that when I’m feeling down on myself not every morning. So don’t be clingy, be interesting and a little mysterious, and don’t overdue things. Like if she responds text her in like several minutes not right away unless she starts. Make it seem like you have a little bit of a life outside of talking with her. I just hope that the guy I like will eventually come around 🤞🏻.
People who lack passion in their being will produce passionless relationships.
You guys can learn from each other what you can, but
ultimately the world is the teacher of life, so you both must spend time doing things together.
Sure, yeah, “play time” is in there too, but you gotta live and get past the small talk convos at some point.
Take a girl on one of your adventures.
Both comment on people walking by. I don't know pull one or two public pranks.
Try to do a quick trip together for a weekend. Maybe camping, or going rock climbing somewhere. A beach camp out idek
Just have fun man. Life isn’t just
“dating.”
what even is that? 😂
Go live and find someone you can live side by side with or live with and someone you can kiss too lol
Best to you! Don’t be so tough on yourself.
@oceanAndSeas oh for certain! Thanks for being polite about it too 😁🤝
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Sounds like you need to work on your game.
The truth is the world is our mirror. Whatever “problem” you are having isn’t random. You may say you want a relationship but check your beliefs. If you have limiting beliefs, no matter how good looking you are or skills you have, you’ll always do or fail to do something that would make sure your beliefs come true.
for example (not saying you believe this, just an example), if you believe that all relationships are doomed to fail or all girls cheat or I’m not enough, you will either date girls that aren’t interested in a serious relationship or you will get picky or you will fail to do or say things that is too emotionally risky.
But then again I could be wrong, I don't know.
But what's your personality like? Women tend to go for personality. Sure looks is great but if the person underneath that isn't amazing, why bother.
Really reflect and look back at how you've acted/reacted. It could be something you said that put them off :)
It is easy to find a girlfriend. It is hard to find a girl as pretty are you are seeking. Your problem is, your standards are too high. If you lower your standards and ask big and homely girls that most guys don't ask, you will find it is easy to have a girlfriend.
It’s not easy to find one. Most girls just don’t have the personality.
My brother from another mother if you never try you will never know so keep trying my friend. Next girl that catches your attention walk up to her & say the following.
If Covid Doesn’t Take You Out Can I?
You… my brother … are a interesting fella. I hope your friends enjoy your company a lot
@oceanAndSeas I taught him everything he knows
You can sense the underlying (whether intentional or unintentional) humour in that
@oceanAndSeas lmao no I could only read it in a high pitch voice. We’re all still vibing though, right? 😂🤜🤛
Lmao jk jk
Yup 🤜🤛 😂
@oceanAndSeas According to my imaginary friends an interesting fella I am & believed me their interesting as well. On the other hand it’s been crickets those jokers lately & I think their giving me the silent treatment.
Static noo I love you my man. All light hearted humor. I was just joking. I could never teach you any of the cool stuff you know. That’s a whole different level.
Don’t ever think as being a zoo animal. If you must be an animal then be a wild one man!
#BornToBeWild 🤘😜
Hey you can have me as a friend. I really enjoyed your humour. by the way the last example is hilarious as well. Once a philosopher said that humour is a fourth pillar of life. As without it, We cannot digest the harsh realities of life.
@Rosexøxø https://youtu.be/igvP806798U This songs for you!
@oceanAndSeas Laughter is the best medicine as they say & from time to time maybe we can OD on it. A for a smile a smile is a wonderful thing so smile while you still have teeth.
@oceanAndSeas who said that 😳 who said that. I never heard of that but I need to know. It’s a common thought I share so who 😳
@Static_In_The_Attic it’s one of the best 🤘😝 needless to say, I listen to song like this on the daily
@Static_In_The_Attic one can still still laugh or smile with a mouth devoid of teeth 😊. Smile is everlasting
@Rosexøxø It was a Chinese author who said that life has four pillars. First is the bitter realities of life e g being born into this world without consent, hunger, inevitability of death etc. second pillar is humour which sweetens the bitterness of these harsh realities. Third is wishful thinking, on which hopes are built on, that help a person move on with life and give motivation. Fourth is intensity of feeling towards others like caring for others and treating others like one wants himself to be treated.
How many women to you greet by name when you see them? Just asking random women if they will go out with you is not likely to work. If a woman spends a few minutes chatting with you, then she may be interested in continuing the conversation over lunch or dinner.
There are two main reasons:
1. You are overlooking how attractive you already are, just because of being a boy.
2. Dating these days is full of traps. Many people don't have the right mindset to be in a relationship. You shall vet your partner, honestly. Look at their present actions, and never expect them to change.
you have to be a chad if not you will struggle
@Yansix75000 No. That's just a limiting belief.
For the simple fact of being a man you exert certain attraction towards women.
The thing is women are very secretive about it, and even signal the oposite. When a man doesn't have confidence about his attractiveness, women fool him around.
El famoso confiance en soit
First off WARNING! don’t take any advice from women
Dude you’re 21 stop looking for girlfriends while you’re in the process of becoming the man you want to be don’t focus on right now focus on where you are headed and your goals because that version of you will have women flocking to him you just have to take your pick
@PainusNdeeAnus 😂😂😂 You should be in marketing or Sales
I agree.
Who said anything about how to treat a woman. We were talking about what women want and how you should ask the person you are interested in what they want so that you can find out, not some random person that doesn't know anything about her...
There absolutely is a right way to treat people, and if you dont know what that is, interacting with the opposite sex is the very least of your problems.
@suzzieQ are you implying that what women want and how they want to be treated aren’t synonymous
And stop making up scenarios dude already told us what it is that he is a young single man how is he gonna ask a girl he doesn’t have what she wants?
He wants to know how to get women and I’m telling him to not take female advice on getting women because female advice will keep you in the friend zone a virgin and cheated on
Female dating advice isn’t based in reality it’s very irresponsible women say crap like if a girl doesn’t like you then something is wrong with her NO men have to be more accountable if we aren’t getting women we need to evaluate ourselves like what am I doing wrong if a woman can’t get a man what does she do? BLAME THE MEN
Dude please don’t take female advice it’s waste of time
I am not implying anything. I am saying exactly what I mean. I am saying that if you want to know what a woman wants you should ask her, not anyone else, because some random person who doesn't know what specifically she wants. It's called communication and it's an important skill to have.
Here is some advice... if you want to know what a person wants, you should ask them.
You want to know how to treat a woman? The same way you should treat everyone, with respect.
@suzzieQ is it not lost on you that women can’t give advice about women
You’re talking about common decency lemme ask do women fuck men who treat them with common decency NO! Because that’s how you’re supposed to treat everyone
So what the fuck are you talking about? You hear that her advice is be nice and courteous to people as if you are just some rude shitty person
You’ll have this man treating a garbage terrible woman with respect when she doesn’t respect him
But he should respect her just because she is a woman? Bro gtfo
LMAO obviously, but a huge part of why they have sex IS because they enjoy it. You're the one who automatically just assumed that I was just talking about the physical aspect when I was talking about enjoyment... You do realize that enjoyment goes beyond just physical pleasure right haha
And you just assumed that meant just physical pleasure... maybe you shouldn't be so quick to make baseless assumptions. Women also have sex because it feels good, humans are not the only mammals that have sex for enjoyment rather than just procreation.
People have sex for different reasons. There is sex for enjoyment, making love, performative sex and sex for procreation. Both men and women have can have sex for any of those reasons.
So as a man, unless you are preforming or trying to make a baby, you are either having sex for enjoyment (which doesn't only mean physical pleasure), or making love.
It is not that complicated.
When the time is right it'll happen, no point over thinking it, it isn't you it's just life you'll meet the right person. Until then just be the best version of you possible, so when she does come around your the best version of yourself to make the commitment long term.
Your last sentence is the key. You wrote "But after a while they act they are bored." You own that. It's up to you to keep them interested. Something you are doing or saying (or not doing or not saying) is boring them. Figure it out.
As of now, he asked this question 20 hours ago and never replied to one person. If you can't talk to strangers on a forum, that are trying to help you, then I don't think that's likely to change in the real world. I watched a movie and these young guys had zero luck with the chicks. They came up with this technique called "dialoguing" and it worked. Soon they were on the beach and teaching older male tourists how to do it.
I'm starting to think that it's not worth answering the question directly, but instead, just reply to someone who replied to the question.
Are you nervous? If your nervous it makes the girls insecure like your a serial killer or something. I have a friend who is 33 and he is actually really sweet but awkward and he scares women away
It’s all trial and error. And you’re still very young. Females have incredible instincts. What vibe are you giving off? And just because you interact with a Female, it doesn’t mean it’s an opportunity to take it further. Being friendly doesn’t always have to be escalated ;)
Being friends first is bullshit. That's what women do when they aren't sure yet. If a man does the friends first tactic her pussy will dry up
If they act bored they probably are... you need a spice it up because if you got all that going on there's something else that you're either doing or not doing
People hate their lives, so they take it out on the world around them, plain and simple. If you live a life that doesn't excite you or give you any sense of meaning, you aren't going to feel any desire to connect with another person.
Most females are looking for the top 10% of men, and you're not in that club. You can still find a girlfriend, but you'll either have to lower your standards or wait until these females that are rejecting you hit their 30's and realize their looks are fading and their options are dwindling.
Girls are not like guys. A girl won't go out with you if you're hot but boring as hell. But men would go out with a hot girl who is boring as hell. Men are easy to please. Women are not.
If he's boring as hell but his money is fun, they will stay 🤣🤣🤣 jkjkjk
Well kudos to both of you for being honest. Many women won’t even acknowledge the huge advantage they have with dating (when all else is equal).
Anyway I expect things will never change. Feminists of course will never acknowledge this huge unchecked benefit most women have.
But I do have just one simple request from women: please just RESPECT the position most men are in here.
When I say “respect” I don’t mean you have to date or sleep with any guy who approaches you. But just take a step back and understand the position he is in.
Don’t accept paid for dates from a guy you have no romantic interest in. Don’t ask a guy if we can be “just friends” when you reject him. Don’t get rude when a polite yet unattractive guy approaches you.
Just a step back and realize he’s in a difficult position and is usually fighting an uphill battle when it comes to dating. When a man feels respected and understood he will handle rejection a lot better. But the vast majority of misogyny and “incel” behavior you see in guys nowadays is about 90% rooted in men feel disrespected by women. It isn’t just from being rejected. Mature men can handle rejection but disrespect is a different story.
Just realize the real power most women have in modern so society. It does hurt men when you abuse it. Don’t abuse it.
@blueonblack22 Stop projecting your behavior onto us. I'm not rude to anyone. Incels hate women because they think they own women and then they get rejected by women which pisses them off even more and they go insane. They need mental help! Stop defending incels and their actions because they want women dead. They need to stop listening to losers like Andrew Tate and get serious mental help.
@PinkRose24 what I said above wasn’t meant to be an indictment neither one of you nor was it projecting. But being dismissive to what men are saying isn’t helping either. You can’t expect men to be open minded to female issues when women refuse to take what men are saying seriously.
@blueonblack22
lets just reverse the situation:
"Don’t accept paid for dates from a guy you have no romantic interest in."
how about stop trying to trick girls to get into bed with you at the bar? how about stop trying to sleep with women you're not romantically interested in?
[ Don’t ask a guy if we can be “just friends” when you reject him. Don’t get rude when a polite yet unattractive guy approaches you.]
why don't you stop talking crap about fat girls over women over 30 and start respecting them as individuals?
@blueonblack22
[Just a step back and realize he’s in a difficult position and is usually fighting an uphill battle when it comes to dating. When a man feels respected and understood he will handle rejection a lot better. But the vast majority of misogyny and “incel” behavior you see in guys nowadays is about 90% rooted in men feel disrespected by women. It isn’t just from being rejected. Mature men can handle rejection but disrespect is a different story.]
Just because a woman rejected you, it doesn't give you the right to talk shit about her reject her.
it just means that you have a lot of things that need to be improved but you're just unwilling to prove yourself.
lets reverse the situation:
would you date an ugly woman? you wouldn't.
would you date an obese lady? you wouldn't.
would you date a girl who is boring as hell? you wouldn't.
would you date someone you're not attracted to? you wouldn't.
so why are you ridiculing women for rejecting you?
you would have done the same if the situation was reversed.
@haha456 you made a lot of horribly bad assumptions about my viewpoint on all of this. It boils down to understanding the difference between attraction vs respect. I believe attraction is NOT a choice. But respect IS a choice.
However at this point I highly doubt you and I will agree on anything.
@blueonblack22
she didn't disrespect you. she rejected you. A girl is telling you that she wants "to be friends" because she doesn't to directly say "I'm not attracted to you".
quit accusing others of being disrespectful when the only real problem is : you simply can't take rejection.
Her saying "no" is not disrespectful. Neither is saying "we are better off just being friends"
No shit that “saying no” isn’t disrespectful. In fact a best a woman can say is “hey thanks for approaching but the truth is I’m not interested”. It’s not complicated. I have been told that a few times. I have had tell that to other people a few times. It’s not comfortable but at least I’m communicating where I stand or vice versa. Sure it stings a bit but I will thank the girl for being honest and go on my way. Because she had the respect to tell me where she stood. Most adult men will do the same.
You know a few years ago I chatted up a girl at a bar (I don’t go out often anymore but back in the day). I offered to buy her a drink and she responded “hey I got tbh I have boyfriend and I’m really not interested that way”. I was impressed with her honestly. I bought her a drink anyway as a kind gesture. I then just moved on, didn’t try anything else and said farewell.
But all this other unnecessary wishy washy bs like asking a man to “just be friends” after he had the balls to politely approach you, ask for the date, etc is when it gets disrespectful. Women claim that the man will “get angry“ if she tactfully rejects him. That’s not impossible but really I do mean really how often do adult men lose their shit when you just say “thank you but I’m not interested”? From my observations very rarely. An adult should be able to communicate that to another adult you are clinging on to a bad incident you had at 19 out of paranoia and your now 30 (which is pathetic)
But when you don’t communicate where you stand and instead play games like “asking to be friends?” that’s when it gets disrespectful. You know god damn well the guy is interested. He would be a fool to agree to that and he is being facetious. But you like the attention so that’s why you ask that.
@blueonblack22
"Lets be friends instead" is better than flat out saying "No, im not interested". Many girls do not like rejecting people. they know it hurts so they refuse to say those words. I myself asked out a guy and he said he would call me back but he never did. he didn't want to reject me.
I don't see "lets be friends" as disrespectful. Its just that you have very low self esteem so you can't take being friend zoned.
You are telling me that I have “low self esteem” but at the same time you say it’s okay that:
“Many girls do not like rejecting people. they know it hurts so they refuse to say those words.”
Is that not a sign of low self esteem and/or low confidence in the girl if she is unable to (tactfully) communicate directly? I thought you wanted a “gender equal” world so a woman should be able to effectively communicate the same way a man could, right?
You know it’s one thing if a young inexperienced woman says something like this (late teens, early 20s). It’s still a huge pain in the ass but they have less experience. But when a woman 30+ says “can we just be friends” to another adult man then someone else has a self esteem problem and it’s not the man. Not that i would be dumb enough to agree to that nowadays. But when adult women try to pull that crap on adult men I get pissed. Reason being (as I stated multiple times above) is that adult men CAN handle rejection. Like a veteran salesman we are used to it. We can accept the rejection with grace and be still be friendly (but there is zero point in really being “friends”). But we need to know the truth.
Asking a man just to be friends is like asking a door to door salesman to stay on your porch and keep talking to him after you turned down his offer. He is wasting valuable time, effort and energy staying connected to you. That doesn’t mean it’s okay for him to get rude when you turned him down. He shouldn’t. But respect the courage and effort he had to knock on your door and give his pitch. It’s totally okay if you don’t want what he is selling. But respect the fact he needs to make a living! Just dragging it on without telling him no will only exasperate his day further. He’s used to rejection. He might get disappointed but he knows for every no a yes will come sooner or later.
If you can’t understand that concept then there can’t be any other reason but selfishness (e. g. wanting the salesman attention while he gets zero commission). For most men it’s sink or swim when it comes to dating. But you just refuse to understand that. You don’t want to accept it because you don’t want the one way benefits you get from friéndzoning men to go away.
@blueonblack22
[Is that not a sign of low self esteem and/or low confidence in the girl if she is unable to (tactfully) communicate directly? I thought you wanted a “gender equal” world so a woman should be able to effectively communicate the same way a man could, right?]
Her not willing to hurt your feelings by saying "No thanks" has absolutely nothing to do with to do with her. It is everything to do with you. You are trying to blame her of random things because of the simle fact that you CAN'T TAKE REJECTION.
No, she doesn't have low self confidence. She is just a consierate person who doesn't want to hurt your feelings.
But clearly you can't take rejection so you want to accuse her of random shit so you can feel better about yourself.
Why don't you quit playing pretend and acknowledge that you're just a low self esteem shit bag who loves to find excuses to hate on women since you can't handle rejection?
@blueonblack22
[Asking a man just to be friends is like asking a door to door salesman to stay on your porch and keep talking to him after you turned down his offer. He is wasting valuable time, effort and energy staying connected to you. ]
its not her fault that you were mislead. She said she wanted to be friends, not go on a date with you. If she was interested in you, she would be dating you. Not telling you she wants you to be a mere buddy of a friend.
she didn't mislead you, you misled yourself.
I've been rejected by men plenty of times in my life. Sometimes very rudely and harshly. I was never reacted the same way as you. I can take rejection. You can't.
“ you're just a low self esteem shit bag”
And not once I called you a name anywhere. Not once. I have “low esteem” but you’re the one who lowered yourself to calling people a “low level shit bags” just because I disagree with what you are saying. Nice.
I recall having a different “debate” a while ago with you screaming and yelling and of course you being the first to throw out profane insults.
I think I know who this is. You used to have a different screenname “Sasha” or something. That person told another woman she hopes that her “conservative husband beats and rapes her”. Does that ring a bell? I would like to believe you are someone else but the way you starting throwing out insults like “lowlife shit bag” reminds me of that other person. Same radical feminist man hating tone. Most people not even the trolls on GAG resort to that just because someone disagrees with them.
If that’s you then best of luck with your hateful outlook on men and life and general. Seriously I wish you the best at everything.
@blueonblack22
hahaha so what? you just accused women of low self confidence , disrespectful and rude when they were never rude at all.
you love to blame and accuse other people of things but you never take a look at your own actions.
i called you a shitbag because YOU ARE A SHITBAG.
you're not a nice person. you're an asshole.
@blueonblack22
[If that’s you then best of luck with your hateful outlook on men and life and general. Seriously I wish you the best at everything.]
You're one who is hateful. You're the one talking shit about women who were trying to be kind to you when they were rejecting you.
Sounds like it's because u have no clue what your doing
You seem confused and seems like giving mixed signals
This is the art of speaking. You need to find common ground with them
There really are not many good ones around.
Women are entitled and spoiled. Guys give them to much attention and therefore they don’t need to date. They simply go from fuck boi to fuck boi until they find a guy with enough money to make them ‘fall in love’
Reminds me how I look at the Dynamics of seduction and attraction and courtship from a different mindset or perspective now
If they are excited at first but then fade you need to work on being more interesting to them.
I think you could possibly have a red flag you’re not aware of; or you just haven’t found someone you’re compatible with and that’s ok
Dude just stop trying. What makes you think most women are even worth it nowadays? Just focus on your own life and stop worrying about college women. Most of them are skanky anyway.
If you don’t believe me @KrakenAttackin knows all about this stuff
Since you get to talk to them then your looks are alright, so it must be your personality I don't know what you're missing but it's fixable so just try to find your weaknesses and work on them
Coz you're finding them and not letting them find you.
Just socialize. Just ask em for a cup of coffee and say it's your treat and pretend to discuss about some uni stuff. Then just pop in some random fax.
Well I've only been attracted to 6ft plus men myself but maybe you are boring them.
if you have to struggle to find one then you're playing a rigged game. give up.
Based on the last census of planet earth guys are 2:1.
You’re probably awkward if you’re at a big university, you shouldn’t have any problems
Guys have no confidence anymore. They complain and whine too much about gold diggers.
@Juxtapose Then you should be glad that gold diggers aren't going after you since you dont want that. Right?
@Juxtapose Then dont engage... lol It's not like they are after you
@Juxtapose Can I follow you?
@oceanAndSeas ohhh so this was the comment!
Of course you can, you don't need my permission.
@Juxtapose Yup 😂
@Juxtapose lol okay. Sure, but why complain about something that doesn’t even affect you? Men who engage with gold diggers want to, there is nothing wrong or toxic about it as long as it’s all consensual.
@suzzieQ yeah right, like most of these gold diggers are even honest with their intentions 🥴 They're as honest as these douchebag guys who claim to love you but only want pussy.
And yeah it does affect me because we have to share the same world and I don't like shallow behavior. I will call out guys who use women for sex as well, I don't like any of this hookup culture bullshit. I used to think people could have free love and just chill but people are instead using each other and being Machiavellian little cunts and dicks.
@Juxtapose Well it doesn't take a genius to figure it out if someone is after you for the money. Lol
I dont like lots of things, but I'm not entitled to tell people who are living their lives just because I dont like it and neither are you. As long as it is consensual there is nothing wrong with it. Manipulation is wrong, but a legal consensual arrangement between two adults is none of your business and you have no right to dictate how people live their lives.
If you don't like shallow behavior than avoid people who are. It's that simple.
I guess millionaires are too busy to even spit on gold diggers?
@Juxtapose lol of course freedom of speech is protected, but that doesn’t give you the right to dictate how people live their lives. There is always a culture war and everyone thinks their side is the right side. @cheetocandle is right, why is it generally then men that gold diggers don’t want, the ones who are most vocal about it about gold diggers?
Could it possible be because they aren’t her preferred demographic thus removing her from his pool of women to chose from? That’s my theory.
@oceanAndSeas or maybe because they recognize that will always be people who will be attracted to you because of what you can offer them, and they are either okay with that kind of arrangement because it benefits them not the average Joe or they just avoid those kind of people.
@Juxtapose everyone is attracted to power and money… money is power.
@Juxtapose so you don’t have a job? You don’t have any source of income? I doubt that
@Juxtapose lol that’s great, you don’t have to. You have what you want, so why are you demonizing others for perusing what they want.
It sounds like you are living the lifestyle that you want, so why is it wrong for someone else to peruse the lifestyle they want as long as they aren’t hurting anyone?
@suzzieQ if this was only about consensual relationships with no deception then I would not be having this discussion with you. I don't blame you women for complaining about guys who are only after sex because they are very deceptive just like a lot of women who are only after money are very deceptive.
@suzzieQ I guess they stay away from Gold Diggers as they would not want someone coming after the wealth they have accumulated. If they want only sex, they can buy it easily. Those looking for a true companionship, no matter millionaires or your average Joe, truly despise Gold diggers. Gold digging means disguising as a life companion but in fact coming for wealth.
@suzzieQ its the deception that is the problem. Due to this, honesty becomes rare and people are hurt emotionally, financially or in some other way. Distrust takes root in the society. People stop believing each other and as a result, they stop helping or caring for each other. If someone makes a consensual arrangement, then it becomes prostitution or sugar daddy type thing, not gold digging.
@Juxtapose so then you don’t have a an issue with gold diggers you have an issue with liars and manipulative people?
@oceanAndSeas that’s right, you’re guessing. You don’t know. People like things that benefit them, so is there really an issue if it’s a legal, consensual, mutually beneficial arrangement?
No one has or can have any problem with consensual or legal arrangement etc as long as both are clear what they are going to get. I think we were discussing gold diggers. Gold digging is deceptive. Disguising as a partner but actually coming for wealth. That’s it
by the way, guessing what?
@oceanAndSeas except gold digger is defined as “ a person who forms a relationship with another purely to extract money from them.” which doesn’t automatically mean manipulative. Gold digger and manipulative aren’t synonymous.
Here we dive into dictionaries 😂 Does that mean Gold digger and prostitute is synonymous then?
@oceanAndSeas by definition they are not
You just proved my point dear. Take care 👋
@oceanAndSeas You had a point? lol
Bet you're a nice guy. Don't be so nice, be exciting.
He's not nice... just boring
@PinkRose24 nice and "nice guy" aren't the same thing. But yes definitely boring.
Just say incel
Off the top... I'd say you're most likely passing up good prospects for surface level issues.
Try being in your 40's and still having a hard time with this.
Simple women are attracted to money and status not your physique
You answered your own question. You're boring.
LOL.
Your vibe runs them off. They sense you want sex. Try to future fake them instead
Because this society is trashhhh.. if you want to be interesting you have to become more trash. Trash people really get famous and get rich in our cursed society.
you answered your own question, you're boring. you can't just be hot, you need more
Do you ask them out? Or do you just talk to them?
Most of the time it is personality flaws.
nope your normal. 30% of men under 30 are virgins. Thats normal.
Do you really want one? You’re 21 years old
plan more exciting dates...
They're bored troll.
you must be at least 7/10 beauty level
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