When it comes to dating is tradition the enemy of progress?

[coachTanthony]

Yes it's not 1950 anymore

No if it ain't broke don't fix it

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A total of 64 votes were cast: 23 girls and 41 guys. See detailed results

[Bee-Hatch]

Which traditions do you mean? Which countries traditions are you cherry picking from?


Are you talking about the wife markets of 17th century England where an unsatisfactory marriage meant women could be sold like property to anyone.
Or that whole women had to be paid for on dates because they were prohibited from owning anything as a form of servitude?


Look at the root of most dating 'traditions' and you'll find a bunch of women in servitude in some way. So if you believe women getting freedom and an equal place in society is a good thing then a few of those traditions need breaking. And women that hide behind those traditions, need educating to stop giving the sisterhood a bad name.

[bamesjond0069]

Women were far better off without all of these freedoms. Certainly happier too.

[Jersey2]

OMG no, not wife markets. Who wants a used problematic wife, lol.

[bamesjond0069]

@Jersey2 I know. You would have to pay me to take on one of those.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Is there really progress in dating nowadays though? There really isn’t…

[coachTanthony]

Yeah women now want to split the bill lol 😂

[Sasha0426]

@coachTanthony Is that a bad thing? I thought men don’t mind women doing that.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@coachTanthony yeah because some men start whining about paying … easier to just pay their half

[coachTanthony]

Progress is alive and well

[Paul09]

What do you mean? What's wrong with that? I. The end it's 2 single adults, whom both work. Not sure why one needs to be treated like a princess on dates. Men aren't banks of free meals and gifts. lol.

[coachTanthony]

@Paul09 There you go Paul this is what I mean about Traditional dating vs progressive dating. Women make good money now and they still want the man to pay... how dare they?

[Paul09]

Yes, pretty much. Never understood why guys are treated like bans, and women are suppose to be a prize that get free stuff.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@Paul09 now where did I say that? Oh wait I didn’t. Merely mean don’t ask a woman out, offer to pay and then get mad or say you were used for a free meal because it didn’t work out. Not everyone clicks romantically. It’s just part of life. Rejection is part of dating.

[mobiusforniner]

No, I'm all for progress but sometimes tradition has its merit. God, when I took my now wife on our first date, she was only 20 and lived with her folks. I met and talked with her parents before we left the house. This happened for a few girls I dated and I respected it.

I cannot imagine the dating world now. Everything's online. For a man, the art of putting yourself out there is lost. Worse, it's hidden behind fake profiles and pictures.

It is like test driving the one used Hyundai the other weekend. Looked nice, had impressive specifications, but after getting behind the wheel and driving the car, it felt like shit.

[Shiningtempest]

@mobiusforniner It's not the end of the world if a man lost the ability of putting themselves out there.

[mobiusforniner]

@Shiningtempest no, but he sure as hell ain't making a good case for himself in EARNING a womans respect and affection.

[Shiningtempest]

@mobiusforniner I'd rather use online dating apps than waste my time meeting incompatible person face-to-face.

[NostalgiaSenpi]

Well coach, this is rather interesting. My own perspective is the one that invites should be the one who pays, although, for the initial six months or so, I'd suggest that I do, regardless if she invited me or not. If I ever got that far, I'd like to take things slow.

[OlderAndWiser]

How do you define "progress" in dating?

[coachTanthony]

Whatever the woke modern dating narrative is these days lol

[OlderAndWiser]

In that case, I hope and pray that tradition is the nemesis of "progress!"

[coachTanthony]

I hear ya man

[lightbulb27]

Jesus, you are really jacking with peoples minds today aren't ya...:)

Yes... it interferes with change.

No, it keeps people on well proven tracks that offer a better success rate.

You really need to define the words "progress" and "is" to have clarity to the response. Since clinton never defined "is", there really is no hope.

[coachTanthony]

The more defined the question the more yes and no's I get. I like dialog.

[Wish4UrB00ty]

I would say that it depends on your personal beliefs. It makes sense to do away with some of the traditions in a lot of scenarios. But most cultural faiths do dictate dating habits and I don’t think it is right to dismiss those traditions when they are steeped in strong theology and doctrine.

[Nikki1989]

The easiest way to date is the old-fashioned way. It has worked forever and will continue to work. These people with faces buried in their phones thinking it will land them a date are fooling themselves.

[Paul09]

What does that even mean? So you want to be a woman that doesn't work, sits around looking pretty Waiting around for me to ask them out? Pay for everything then stay at home? That is what old traditions were like. Women were prizes , treated like objects lol

[bamesjond0069]

@Paul09 yes. They like to be valuable objects, a prize if you will. The alternative is they are worthless throw away objects to ghost when you've had your fun. I've still never heard of a third option that actually exists.

[blissinanarchy1]

Tradition is the enemy of modern era.

I don’t exactly think being okay with your girlfriend taking butthole pics for 5 dollars is progress. Modern? Yes.

[coachTanthony]

To you but there are many butthole collecting progressives who think different. lol

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Of course it is and those saying otherwise are unable to keep up with progress and want to drag everyone back with them to an old way of thinking. One that was not based on equality.

[Djaay]

Based on equality? Women want equality (same authority as men) so they don't have to listen to them. That's all women's equality measures are about today with modern women , especially American women.💯🚩. Anything traditional is subject to not hearing your voice is what women today shun away from. Men and women will NEVER be equal in many measures.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Not as long as men such as yourself continue to look down on us as less than equals who owe our existence to men.

It's not that we can't listen to men when it's called for that. We just want our voice to be heard as equals. Not a suggestion that ultimately can be dismissed at the whim of men.

[Djaay]

Until you're ( BORN AGAIN IN CHRIST WOMEN MARRIED TO A MAN OF THE SAME , YOU can't ASK FOR TRUE EQUALITY. PERIOD !. )

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Thats the point, we aren't asking anymore. That way got us subservience for thousands of years. Now we are taking it at record speeds. Those men who grasp at tradition will be left behind or left fighting for the women who are still ok living in those traditions and subservience.

[Djaay]

No... you'all will be left behind from Good faithfull men and the GOD of the Bible.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Ah there it is. Thank you for living up to the motto of "there is no hate like Christian love".

When you run out of arguments, when logic has left you alone and defenseless, turn to the safety blanket of your religious karma in the form of punishment from your God.

Nothing says manly like hiding behind your father and asking him to beat up the mean girl on the internet for you.

[Djaay]

Wow really. Obedience to GOD is hated by those NOT of GODS nature. After all , ALL of us will be judged accordingly after our last breath. Do you want that of yourself to be cancelled and sent straight to Heaven's junk yard? You scream for equality , and with GOD as a witness will true equality ever exist.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I don't hate God. Far from it. I just don't trust a book written by a bunch of men who have changed the wording over the years to fit their belief systems at the time. I dont trust a religion built on fear.

I'm agnostic. I believe in a higher power. I just don't believe its necessarily your God and his rules anymore than I believe the norse, greek, or any other gods.

The universal language is the same. Dont be a dick to your fellow human. I can follow that. It doesn't mean having to marry a man and obey him. And of the two of us, I'm not wishing damnation on you just because we disagree. So ask yourself, are you really practicing a religion based on love or fear.

[AnusNdaPainus]

Tradition is why we have progressed and abandoning tradition is why we are mutilating children and have so many Over grown babies

GenX was the last generation to come from nuclear families

GenZ we just have trauma 🙄

[goaded]

No, tradition had women owned by men, children being beaten for being left handed, or imprisoned for being gay. Tradition sucks, acceptance rules!

To be fair, "this is what you do when X happens", for birth, marriage, death, etc. is helpful, as long as it's inclusive.

[Unit1]

Definitely. Not a question.

Nothing beats getting a girlfriend because she loves you irrespective of money over getting a girlfriend because she needs your money to survive.

[Anonymous]

The opposite. This new modern bullshit has ruined dating completely.

[CheeseMonster]

Huh? Tradition is by definition the enemy of progress. You can't stand still and walk forward at the same time.

[coachTanthony]

Well in dating tradition has a bit of a different meaning that some still believe should not be changed.

[CheeseMonster]

I still don't see how not changing something could possibly result in it progressing?

[coachTanthony]

let me give you an example. In dating guys pay for the first date traditionally and now women make plenty of money and many now prefer to split the bill which many men don’t mind at all. To some that is progress.

[CheeseMonster]

Yes I understand the idea. Progress by definition is breaking from tradition. What I don't think I understand is your question...

[coachTanthony]

Sorry

[coachTanthony]

Don’t know what else I can say it’s pretty clear in my example what I mean by my question

[CheeseMonster]

Okay I guess yeah, like I said at first they have to be enemies, or they aren't tradition and progress.

[LazerBean]

If progress means an increase in the amount of people who are deeply and disturbingly emotionally damaged because of their relationship experiences, modern dating definitely seems like the way to go!

[Unknown29]

I’m very traditional. I love feminine women and masculine men.

[Ms_Facesitter]

Preachers or influencers are the problem nowadays. People who don't know any better listen to the big voices online and those aren't always correct.

[bean2k21]

Yes, but the solution is quite simple. Just cut out the dating part. If the other party isn't willing to agree to the 'Code of Conduct' then they aren't worthy to serve me.

[Реrverted_creep]

When it comes to the act of dating,
Tradition does not have to dictate.
Progress can have a place in our lives,
If for it both parties can collaborate.

Our Lord of the Orgasmosphere speaks true,
For Him, it's no longer a game.
Rather than worry about courtship and dating,
Adhering to a Code of Conduct is to His aim.

Yes, tradition can be a hindrance to progress,
But when it comes to relationships, there's more.
If one can't commit to the Code of Conduct,
Then they're not worthy to enter the Lord's door.

[bean2k21]

@Реrverted_creep So let us embrace progress and change,
And together, a new dating era we'll arrange.

[Реrverted_creep]

In this new era there will be no chemicals in the water, nor limiting beliefs holding back men's testosterone levels https://youtu.be/E85pctJ1byk

[Anonymous]

We all know that you support "tradition", because you're a misogynistic conservative, who believes a woman's only value is her looks, being young and making babies

[coachTanthony]

Don't forget making sandwiches. Very important as well.

[Quackthulu2]

When it comes to everything tradition is the enemy of progress.

[Paul09]

It's called evolution. If we did everything the same as back then, we would never advance as a human race. Old ways should stay in the past. Time to bring in new traditions.

[najekim]

I kinda agree with Brainsbeforebeauty that for the most part, because of these various "movements" dating has become iffy for many folks.

[humanearth]

The old mechanical way is the best, no cellular device

[Anonymous]

Progress has ruined dating. Maybe we should go back to traditional courtship rituals.

[SaoirseS]

Tradition is peer pressure from dead people.

[MysteriousDarkness]

What cultural tradions are you talking about?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

I don't care for traditions. I live my life and date according to what fits me best.

[Snakeyes7]

If it doesn't make people want to participate, it's not progress.

[Agape93]

Nope. Imposed or forced adherence to tradition is.

[melanieeeB]

I would say so, welcome to 2023

[clampfan101]

What kinds of traditions?

[coachTanthony]

Men paying on a first date. Men asking the woman to marry them. Women staying home taking care of the house.

[clampfan101]

Not everyone follows those traditions, though. It does sound like women should be more commonly comfortable with making first moves but that’s about it, right?

[coachTanthony]

Women don't have to be comfortable with approach because tradition still LIVES. And did I say these are traditions that EVERONE follows? Why do people on gag always lead with well NOT EVERYONE? lol It's so lazy

[clampfan101]

I’m sorry. I was just confused. I didn’t mean to be lazy.

[OddBeMe]

When it comes to anything tradition is the enemy.

[marish01]

Except when a man should pay for her meal.

[OddBeMe]

@marish01 chivalry will be hard to destroy.

[marish01]

A woman should cook, clean and raise kids then.

[OddBeMe]

@marish01 and earn a paycheck so I can stay home and play video games. And then have sex later.

[marish01]

Lol yes.

[Still-alive]

i say go with what works. old or new.

[Jamie05rhs]

I voted A.