Some men won't tell a woman they find her attractive because they know they don't have a chance with her so why bother. Agree or disagree?

[Chthou95]

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[Anonymous]

How about telling her that she looks good because she looks good? Do you not give your male friends compliments, or your family? Why guys always have to have some hidden attention behind everything they do and say? Guys should really stop being so rational and competitive, it is killing your ego and making you think the way you do. And is ruining your chances with women. The problem is not fear of rejection here, it's being an asss who only gives compliment to get some benefit out of it. If you think it's useless complimenting another person because you won't get anything in return, then you don't really like them and you are a selfish manipulator and the 'nice guy' that every girl hates. If you freaking think someone is pretty, or funny, or whatever, why holding back on telling them? Everyone likes compliments, and it's also a great feeling giving them! The problem is that guys fail to see the beauty in the moment of things and they use these stupid textbook phrases like 'you are so beautiful' with every girl which for us basically translated 'do you want to have sex?'. So how about finding something that you truly do like about a girl (sometimes it takes time and effort) and then use your compliments wisely and honestly. It doesn't always have to be physical, as a matter of fact if a girl really is that super beautiful and everyone knows it, she knows it too and I bet you she'd rather be complimented on something other then her looks. Just find that something and go in. If you can't find it then sorry but you are just not attrated/interested enough, go home and jerk it off.

[SigmaNiggeh]

If you ask a girl out, they'd find it creepy. If you ask your bro or family out it's not. This kind of mentality gets guys in trouble. I know from experience.

[Willoughby23]

@SigmaNiggeh Are you saying the mentality of not asking girls out gets you in trouble?

[SigmaNiggeh]

@Willoughby23 I meant the opposite of what you thought I meant. However both can. If You don't and instead you just creepily stare like an envious window shoppper than it can.

[catiecatie]

Why not try? The worst she can say is no. Some people you gotta try. Shit I don’t think the guy I have a crush on has a girlfriend, but then again I don’t know. I’m gonna ask him after I’m done with my test and everything. Seems like he’s willing to help. Saying that he can help me with the questions I’m struggling with. He’s so nice, but a terrible texter. But if you don’t ask how will you know or there will always be the “what if.”

[Chthou95]

Because most men are humble and know who they have a shot with and who they dont. Men are not dumb and can tell right off the bat where they stand with a woman. Unless they're simps.

[catiecatie]

I’ve never said men are dumb. Some times it can be hard to tell though. I will ask him out though, nothing too big just a simple drink.

[Chthou95]

Again most men already know

[catiecatie]

Then why do they keep trying? If a woman says no to you then why not try another one? But most men nowadays are actually afraid of commitment and are actually afraid to approach the woman. So it seems like the women need to approach and again if the guy says no that’s just a lesson. Onto the next one.

[Chthou95]

What are you talking about? I said most men won't even attempt because they know before hand if they have a chance or not. Women are clueless about men and the way men think. This proves it further

[catiecatie]

So I guess I don’t know what the guys I work with think. And that sucks because I work in a male dominated field. Which is a total lie. I can read guys. Body language they way the act. Most women don’t understand but why are you getting offensive if you asked the question?

[Chthou95]

Its not about getting offensive. You really can't tell how im acting behind a screen. Disagreeing with your views isn't being offensive. But if women really knew how to pick up signs, many wouldn't be getting used for sex

[catiecatie]

You aren’t wrong and I’m not disagreeing with you but from my standpoint it seemed like you were getting offensive. You can’t tell what people are thinking behind the screens as they can be different in person compared to texting. I’ll even admit that.

[Ευδεμονια]

Honestly I totally agree for my personal experience. In general, if I see I won’t stand any chance, I wouldn’t bother to tell her, since it’s completely useless.
If a girl is out of my league (low-average) or if she sees me as a friend, I would never make any move, since i experienced on my own skin it’s useless and brings only the suffering of another rejection.


It’s not a matter or having balls, I’d call it “self conservation” since receiving a lot of rejections (I’m not judging those who reject, every one has its own reasons and there’s no such thing as universal compatibility) is pretty harmful for self esteem, confidence and mental health.

[coachTanthony]

If they were going to die this week I bet they wouldn't care. People roaming the earth like we got all the time in the world. Just do it.

[desidoll]

Yes, and I find it to be ridiculous. It is an ego thing which I see happening a lot on daily basis. How do you know you don’t have a chance with her unless she is taken or a supermodel? As long as you approach her in a good manner, it is always worth trying.

[Chthou95]

Most men are not stupid and are realistic about who they do and dont have a chance with. Men are more humble about their value

[Anonymous]

If a guy won't tell a woman he finds her attractive it's typically because there's something holding him up. She has not EARNED hearing it. This is a COMMON problem among women today. Women have become so privileged that they feel they should risk nothing. And that's just simply not healthy. A woman should always have to EARN that from a guy.

I'm not saying guys cannot compliment women. But I guy should NEVER express interest unless he's sure about those feelings to her.

This will always be a problem in the interaction of men and women. But it doesn't have to be as convoluted as it is now. People could be more honest if they wanted to be.

[midnightmoon05]

I don’t. I don’t see the point of feeding their egos bases in their looks.
i always get to know their heart first…before I share compliments.
some have gotten outter compliments since they were kids…they only know they have outter beauty but never build on their inner…stay away from girls like that.

[TheSpaceGnome]

I'm sure some guys think that way, I don't though.

I don't think about stuff like "leagues", just commonalities. So any woman I have no chance with, I also don't want (because she's boring/we have nothing in common).

I also don't need to even want her to compliment her.

[Quigly]

Just because you find a woman attractive doesn't mean you want to be with her. Personality is a big deal. She can be a total knockout, if I can't relate to her as a person I'm not going to bother. If she comes off as spiteful and arrogant it's a complete turn off immediately.

[Chthou95]

No one said personality doesn't matter. But its not what hooks most people first

[Quigly]

Why would I tell a woman she is attractive if she has a terrible personality? Personality plays a part in attraction.

[Chthou95]

You found her physically attractive first did you not?

[Quigly]

First or second is irrelevant.

[Chthou95]

It is because the physical attraction is what initiated everything else

[Anonymous]

Some guys have this immature idea that knocking her confidence will make her like them more. These people are insecure and not too smart. A quality girl is going to go where she feels valued, not taken for granted. That’s the quickest way to turn her off.

[Chthou95]

a lot of guys just dont simp. There's a difference

[Opinion Owner]

That’s a poor excuse

[Chthou95]

Its not. Women get bombarded with a lot of attention and have high egos because of it. A man that's self aware knows not to be another guy that just gasses up her ego

[BarGold]

this fool has invited me to a place for the sole reason to disapprove of me. what u say about that

[Beatrix7]

disagree because he should ask her thats the way he's gonna find out if she is be brave dont be a woosy its worse being a woosy more if your a guy they would proud that you asked her instead of being a woos

[Chthou95]

Men are humble about who they have a chance with and who they dont.

[Beatrix7]

not all of them

[Chthou95]

Most of them.

[Beatrix7]

ok kl

[gothbxtch]

i have no idea how men’s brains work lol, but as long as you don’t do it in a creepy way, you should shoot your shot.

[Chthou95]

Yeah a long with making sure you have other things going for that'll give you a better chance at succeeding

[monorprise]

That advice is only helpful to the extent it is objective.

[Esbatmad]

And therein lies the problem folks. Women can automatically define "the way" a man compliments them as "creepy". So better off simply not taking the risk.

[BoopBoopBeep]

I have no reason to believe upon seeing a woman that I have no chance with her unless I can see a ring on her finger. If we talk and I find out she's spoken for, sure, but unless I see a ring how would I know I have no chance with her?

[Billlewis]

This is why simps are so important to society in general, because we're truthful in our effusive praise of beautiful women, even though we know we won't be getting any pussy. There's nothing wrong with that approach, is there?

[Esbatmad]

Simps promote men being second class citizens. If you think there's nothing wrong with that, then ya might as well commit suicide and get it over with.

[Billlewis]

@Esbatmad Okay.

[Juxtapose]

If you compliment women too much then they get used to it and it won't really be valuable for them. And why compliment people who won't compliment you?

[Anemone978]

Why not bother, 2 guys were looking at me today while I was out.. say something cuz I am not going to lol

[Chthou95]

Because guys are more humble with who they can get and who they can't. They don't need to approach you to know their chances

[Anemone978]

The one guy was my type tho lol

[Chthou95]

Congrats. Since we're going based on anecdotal examples i know a lot of men who won't approach because they already know they don't have a chance. Men are humble when it comes to who they can get and can't

[Anemone978]

Well then you guys need to grow some balls..

[Chthou95]

Dont include me in this. I said some. Besides its not about not having balls. It's just being realistic and knowing where you stand

[Anemone978]

The one obviously didn't know were he stood or his chances. So guys really need to up their confidence and at least try. A lot of guys now do not take risks like the men of the past, and it's pathetic.

[Chthou95]

If a guy is objectively a 2 or 3, should be be approaching women who are 6's, 7's or 8's? Lets be real and not be politically correct, he doesn't have a chance. Leagues exist wether we want to admit or not

[Anemone978]

Yes but if the guy is objectively a 7 and the girl is a 6 why not approach? lol

[Chthou95]

There's plenty of men who look better than a woman and will pursue her. That's not the same for men. Men have to be the best they can be to succeed in today's dating market

[Anemone978]

Considering you are totally one sided on this.. I give up, because I don't even care about the topic lol So I believe you :)

[Chthou95]

How am i being one sided? You obviously care enough to keep replying.

[Anemone978]

Yes, but only because I am petty and like to have the last word 🤣🤣

[Chthou95]

Ill let you have it. If you respond again, i won't respond. Props for the honesty

[LiamJHayden]

I see guys waaaayyyyyy better looking than I am with that attitude looking at the girls but never approaching. I ask the girls anyway. No guts, no glory. And on occasion I get a "yes."

[Chthou95]

You had luck on your side man. Bravo

[Willlovewinintheend]

I do not want to waste money dressing nice and working out everyday just to be rejected or called a creep. So I focus on money so I can pay for a surrogate and start a family like that.

[RavVid]

I stopped doing that when they started saying "I know".

[ProbablyClueless]

That's true for some men. For others, they won't say she's attractive to avoid the compliment being heard the wrong way.

[exitseven]

this is an urban legend that is probably based in fact.

[AdithyaR]

That's me literally everytime I have a crush. I'm basically a zero so why would I even try?

[AdithyaR]

Wait. Is it about just complimenting people or flirting?
Cause just complimenting people is fine, I do that with friends and people I meet, just a nice thing to do.
Flirting is what I avoid due to having no chance.

[Anonymous]

Usually what stops me too unfortunately and if you try she might reject you hard and make you feel like crap

[Anonymous]

Some sure, most avoid it fearing a place in a mass grave of the MeToo firing squad

[Nikki1989]

A lot of men have no balls.

[Chthou95]

Its not that they don't have balls. They're just realistic

[Willlovewinintheend]

@Chthou95 Exactly.

[Nikki1989]

Realistic according to them, maybe. That doesn't mean they are right.

[Nikki1989]

@Willlovewinintheend Loser mentality like that won't get you anywhere.

[Willlovewinintheend]

@Nikki1989

I'd rather you approach a guy you actually like then waste your time having a conversation with me. I am be respectful to women by not wasting their time.

[Willlovewinintheend]

Saving money for surrogacy will get me a family.

[OceanGirl21]

I agree, they self sabotage a lot. I’ve seen plenty of attractive women with average men. Confidence is key.

[Chthou95]

@OceanGirl21 I've seen plenty of homeless people become millionaires. I don't give a shit about anecdotal evidence. This is why men and women don't think the same. Men are realistic with who they can get. If you're a 3 or 4, you shouldn't be going after 8s or 9s. It's not going to work. And we dont determine our own value, the dating market does

[Chthou95]

Women are so politically correct on dating topics lmao

[monorprise]

Perhaps, on the other hand it has rarely been more dangerous, given you never know what sort of legal and social problems a woman will create for you by simply trying.

[Jmmmfi4]

1000000000 % agree this is exactly why I literally never try

[boggboss]

Sure I can see that

[Kelly6]

True fact