Because the culture destroyed it. Regardless of intentions. Dating Apps, MeToo, entertainment and media, feminism, red pill, pornography and politics drastically changed social dynamics and made dating into a superficial game and a competition. Love, family and monogamy are only kept on life support by older generations.
Sorry to hear that you’ve been stalked, cheated and abused.
I think one of the reasons why men won’t “court” is because they don’t want to deal with the consequences. Put yourself in a guys shoes for a second. You find a woman and you get married. A few years later you get divorced and she takes half of everything you got. Plus depending on where you live she can also get alimony as well. When you get divorced you have to go to a legal system and men normally get more punishment than women do.
Because women decided to devalue traditional masculinity & worked hard to do that. So now even guys who know how to be traditional are not going to do that for you unless you're traditional yourself. Women want to be non traditional but get all the benefits of traditional relationships from men. Men aren't having it!! Our wallets, our choice. Our time, our choice.
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Anonymous
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Because men are forced to be the ones to escalate and court when the woman who may or may not want to be courted does little to nothing but sit there and look pretty.
Not every woman, but most just expect men to make all the moves while they display “signs” that are more often than not as obvious as a recently washed window.
Plus social media. I lose a lot of interest in women who show off their whole bodies on the internet for attention and validation/ post anti men bullshit so I'm also not gonna pursue A LOT of women because of that.
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Anonymous
(45 Plus)
4 mo
The majority of women are giving their body, soul, time, energy and attention to bad men. Only an utter fool would court a woman knowing that. I do not pursue women... I completely walked away from all of that decades ago. A lot of guys are done.
Because "courting" is a game made up by women. And men aren't interested in social games the way women are. They will tolerate a certain amount of it to get laid, but that's really their ultimate goal. Even the "nice guys," their primal instinct is to find someone to have their kids, not to play childish head-games with.
I met a woman on a dating site who, after getting to know her, told me she sees men as a means to free food and shelter. There are women that see the gash in her crotch as something they know most men desire and most men will sacrifice their relationships, family, business, financial and moral future for while they have their power-filled fun.
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Men have given up 'courting' because they do not see any women out there worth courting, and everywhere they look, TV, Films , Main Stream Media, all are putting men down, along with women telling men to "Go Away" & "Leave Us Alone", so the vast majority of men have take you at your word and done just that.
Have you ever thought that its women who are a large part the problem here? You go one about how men treat women "women badly and just okay games" as though we are just parts of one organism, have you ever considered that its your dating choices in the men you date, you say " I’ve been stalked, abused, and ghosted.", that is down to the men you've chosen to date not men as a whole.
You can thank feminism for this. Unironically not a joke. A small minority of very loud women have basically destroyed everything nice men did for women. Courting, gifts, holding the door, opening a car door, marriage, relationships, etc... reality is most guys are tired of dealing with that level of toxicity and since we can't tell which woman is going to have that we just avoid them all or go elsewhere where traditional women are more prevalent
Sounds like you're going after the wrong men or not attracting the kind who court... There are definitely a ton out there. I've never had a problem finding them. What kind of men are you going after?
Fortunately I haven't had to date for a while, but it was a lot of work.
Women would use you for a free meal, or because they didn't want to dine alone before their real date, their pictures online were so out of date it was hard to recognize them when you met them, some played all sorts of games, which I don't play at all.
You either like me or you don't. At that point I'm gone.
Granted, not all women are like that, but I ran into a number of them over the years.
in a society where male behavior is labeled "toxic" and any traditional way to approach women have been invalidated by calling it "creepy" or "sexual assault", how do you expect to court women?
like you've been stalked and abused. that's what "traditional male courtship behavior" is labeled these days... tho i assume you use these words according to what they actually mean unlike modern society.
How bad are things in Germany? Here in the US, I feel all we do here is say women are better than men, but somehow, women are always still the victims. I also hear that in the UK, you can go to jail just for going up and talking to a girl (at least in London).
@Inbox in Germany every shit that happens in USA will be a thing here with a delay between half a year and 2 years. Even black lives matter was a thing here. Even tho this has nothing at all to do with our history or culture. It's like Germans are brainless NPCs that take a while to get the software update cause they are far away from the server XD
It always amazes me how women just don't get it. The main reason why men aren't into "courting" is because there is absolutely nothing in it FOR THEM you claim that women can be
Successful - Men don't care about your Success
Pretty - Men decide how attractive you are
Nice - Subjective term that means nothing w/out context.
You've claim you've been stalked abused and ghosted, ok well if that's the case what did you do?
You want to be courted, meaning you want the traditional treatment from a gentleman but are you a traditional lady? Have you ever had a one-night stand or fling? Why should a decent traditional man court you like a sucker when you gave it up to Chad in one night? Also, do you want to be a traditional wife and homemaker or does your career come first?
Kevin Samuels said it best: "These women want traditional men but they aren't traditional women."
@DextroShade. You beat me too it. Courting is for women who are wife material. If men aren't courting you it's because they don't see you as wife material.
Courting was back when men were the sole providers and women were housewives…both the economy and women joining the workforce has made courting logistically and logically implausible. Not saying it never happens…but why would I pay for everything in a girl’s life if she has her own job? That makes zero sense.
Sounds like a really bad experience. You are an attractive girl, you would think that you have enough choices that you can pick the right man out of the crowd of suiters.
Maybe you need to look at yourself more closely and ask yourself why you are unable to separate the right guys from the wrong.
Ask yourself why ! Men sexualize women and women actually help them to do that.. Men are treating women the same way they treat other men and women asked for that, and actually acting like men themselves.. you reap what you saw.. don't come and moan about it now.. I live in a society where we still like to do chivalry and women here still like it and ask for it.. we always think about marriage.. it is the norm here
Courting takes work and guys these days don’t want to put in that effort and most would not even know how to court a girl. To them chivalry is dead and something their grandfather did. Maybe they think it is something they have to go to the doctor and get treated for. If you want to be courted them find an older guy. I and I think most older men would be hindered to find a girl who wanted to be courted and even thought that way.
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Because the culture destroyed it. Regardless of intentions. Dating Apps, MeToo, entertainment and media, feminism, red pill, pornography and politics drastically changed social dynamics and made dating into a superficial game and a competition. Love, family and monogamy are only kept on life support by older generations.
Sorry to hear that you’ve been stalked, cheated and abused.
I think one of the reasons why men won’t “court” is because they don’t want to deal with the consequences. Put yourself in a guys shoes for a second. You find a woman and you get married. A few years later you get divorced and she takes half of everything you got. Plus depending on where you live she can also get alimony as well.
When you get divorced you have to go to a legal system and men normally get more punishment than women do.
Because women decided to devalue traditional masculinity & worked hard to do that. So now even guys who know how to be traditional are not going to do that for you unless you're traditional yourself. Women want to be non traditional but get all the benefits of traditional relationships from men. Men aren't having it!! Our wallets, our choice. Our time, our choice.
Because men are forced to be the ones to escalate and court when the woman who may or may not want to be courted does little to nothing but sit there and look pretty.
Not every woman, but most just expect men to make all the moves while they display “signs” that are more often than not as obvious as a recently washed window.
Plus social media. I lose a lot of interest in women who show off their whole bodies on the internet for attention and validation/ post anti men bullshit so I'm also not gonna pursue A LOT of women because of that.
The majority of women are giving their body, soul, time, energy and attention to bad men. Only an utter fool would court a woman knowing that. I do not pursue women... I completely walked away from all of that decades ago. A lot of guys are done.
Well I’m done too
Thank you for stepping out and giving room to real men.
It does not sound like you want to be done.
@little_bird1 You're welcome.
Because "courting" is a game made up by women. And men aren't interested in social games the way women are. They will tolerate a certain amount of it to get laid, but that's really their ultimate goal. Even the "nice guys," their primal instinct is to find someone to have their kids, not to play childish head-games with.
At 48 years and in 2023 going on 2024, it's kind of sad many people like you still by into outdated gender myths 😢
I didn't know that courting included games.
I met a woman on a dating site who, after getting to know her, told me she sees men as a means to free food and shelter.
There are women that see the gash in her crotch as something they know most men desire and most men will sacrifice their relationships, family, business, financial and moral future for while they have their power-filled fun.
Men have given up 'courting' because they do not see any women out there worth courting, and everywhere they look, TV, Films , Main Stream Media, all are putting men down, along with women telling men to "Go Away" & "Leave Us Alone", so the vast majority of men have take you at your word and done just that.
Have you ever thought that its women who are a large part the problem here? You go one about how men treat women "women badly and just okay games" as though we are just parts of one organism, have you ever considered that its your dating choices in the men you date, you say " I’ve been stalked, abused, and ghosted.", that is down to the men you've chosen to date not men as a whole.
You can thank feminism for this. Unironically not a joke. A small minority of very loud women have basically destroyed everything nice men did for women. Courting, gifts, holding the door, opening a car door, marriage, relationships, etc... reality is most guys are tired of dealing with that level of toxicity and since we can't tell which woman is going to have that we just avoid them all or go elsewhere where traditional women are more prevalent
Sounds like you're going after the wrong men or not attracting the kind who court... There are definitely a ton out there. I've never had a problem finding them. What kind of men are you going after?
Fortunately I haven't had to date for a while, but it was a lot of work.
Women would use you for a free meal, or because they didn't want to dine alone before their real date, their pictures online were so out of date it was hard to recognize them when you met them, some played all sorts of games, which I don't play at all.
You either like me or you don't. At that point I'm gone.
Granted, not all women are like that, but I ran into a number of them over the years.
in a society where male behavior is labeled "toxic" and any traditional way to approach women have been invalidated by calling it "creepy" or "sexual assault", how do you expect to court women?
like you've been stalked and abused. that's what "traditional male courtship behavior" is labeled these days... tho i assume you use these words according to what they actually mean unlike modern society.
How bad are things in Germany? Here in the US, I feel all we do here is say women are better than men, but somehow, women are always still the victims. I also hear that in the UK, you can go to jail just for going up and talking to a girl (at least in London).
@Inbox in Germany every shit that happens in USA will be a thing here with a delay between half a year and 2 years. Even black lives matter was a thing here. Even tho this has nothing at all to do with our history or culture. It's like Germans are brainless NPCs that take a while to get the software update cause they are far away from the server XD
It always amazes me how women just don't get it. The main reason why men aren't into "courting" is because there is absolutely nothing in it FOR THEM you claim that women can be
Successful - Men don't care about your Success
Pretty - Men decide how attractive you are
Nice - Subjective term that means nothing w/out context.
You've claim you've been stalked abused and ghosted, ok well if that's the case what did you do?
You want to be courted, meaning you want the traditional treatment from a gentleman but are you a traditional lady? Have you ever had a one-night stand or fling? Why should a decent traditional man court you like a sucker when you gave it up to Chad in one night? Also, do you want to be a traditional wife and homemaker or does your career come first?
Kevin Samuels said it best: "These women want traditional men but they aren't traditional women."
@DextroShade. You beat me too it. Courting is for women who are wife material. If men aren't courting you it's because they don't see you as wife material.
Being courted is a privilege reserved for high value women.
Courting was back when men were the sole providers and women were housewives…both the economy and women joining the workforce has made courting logistically and logically implausible. Not saying it never happens…but why would I pay for everything in a girl’s life if she has her own job? That makes zero sense.
Sounds like a really bad experience. You are an attractive girl, you would think that you have enough choices that you can pick the right man out of the crowd of suiters.
Maybe you need to look at yourself more closely and ask yourself why you are unable to separate the right guys from the wrong.
Because women said we ate equals.
Because courting is an outdated patriarchal practice.
Because there are examples of men being accused of sexual harrassement when they tried to court a woman.
I can keep going but you get the point.
You want to blame someone, blame your fellow. Women
Today a lot of people are just looking for sex with no strings and if they can get that without a relationshi then why bother courting a woman.
If you want to be courted, quit casual sex and insist in being taken on a date. Find an older man with values. We exist and are very good at courting.
Ask yourself why ! Men sexualize women and women actually help them to do that.. Men are treating women the same way they treat other men and women asked for that, and actually acting like men themselves.. you reap what you saw.. don't come and moan about it now.. I live in a society where we still like to do chivalry and women here still like it and ask for it.. we always think about marriage.. it is the norm here
Courting takes work and guys these days don’t want to put in that effort and most would not even know how to court a girl. To them chivalry is dead and something their grandfather did. Maybe they think it is something they have to go to the doctor and get treated for.
If you want to be courted them find an older guy. I and I think most older men would be hindered to find a girl who wanted to be courted and even thought that way.