This “nice guy vs. asshole” complex is so worn out, confusing, depressing (dangerously depressing for some men), contradictory, etc. that I just have thrown my hands in the air on all of it. Giving a “nice guy” a lecture on this is not f*cking working obviously. This is much more complicated and deep seated than most people will ever comprehend.
For most of my life I definitely was one of those “nice guys” but there was brief time I was the exact opposite (I was also in my physical looks prime). I got more ass then a toilet seat but I also had tons of shit to worry about like unwanted pregnancies, STDs (lucky it didn’t happen) and the worst of all being falsely accused of something. I wasn’t necessarily a rude and mean asshole at the time. But I was more of a “well I don’t give a f*ck asshole. Just drop it and let me go to business”.
However I got sick of that. It was exciting but not fulfilling. I also ended up screwing up a very good thing with a decent lady years ago. Nowadays I am alone and very careful who I give me affection and effort to. I got radar for friendzone bullshit. If I think it’s happening I will call a woman out on it, cut her off and never look back While it’s painful that women even attempt that bs on men at least I won’t tolerate it. But I rather be alone and have my self respect
Anyway everything I do mean everything comes down to self respect. Once a man sacrifices his self respect pursuing a woman he goes from “good guy” to “nice guy”.
Anyway here are my two cents on all of this:
Anyway for most “nice guys” out there my advice is to deeply examine your upbringing. Chances are you were raised with some very toxic belief structures that are impacting you subconsciously.
Also if you are going to be nice to a woman do it for the sake of being nice and expect absolutely nothing in return. Seriously. This is how I got a very beautiful young woman to fall in love with me years ago. I did a kind gesture for her expecting absolutely nothing in return. Ironically she followed up with me later saying she wanted a second date. She was very bitchy on the first date but on the second date she did a 180 (also was happy to fool around with me).
Anyway I notice our culture likes to pile more abuse on nice guys like they are “chumps” who deserve to be mistreated or something. Like they can magically “snap out of it” overnight or something. It’s actually a very deep seated and complex issue. Especially nowadays.
Women keep on saying they like that but in reality they like having nice guys as a “resource” they can take advantage of. Most women don’t even realize they are doing wrong there. It’s an evolutionary issue given women had to be selfish for self preservation purposes. So if a man could offer her resources for nothing in return she would definitely take him up on it. It’s not something women will “snap out of”.
Anyway the bottom line is this: it’s better to be alone and have self respect than to be an exploited nice guy. Some women gain respect for men (sexually) if they realize he has the self respect to walk away from her (and mean it) if she mistreats him. He effectively passed her shit test if he does this.
But I think some men think they have “lost the fight” if they give up on a woman. It’s an ego problem. They want to believe they still have a chance.
No you didn’t “lose the fight” if you respect yourself. If you do right and a woman sees that as weakness then that’s a “her” problem. Don’t stick around thinking she will change her mind. You just become an exploited orbiter.
@EmyyWolf or just play the numbers game as a man and score 1/10 times every girl you approach.
@getwiththepg
No, Bad genes shouldn't be passed down. Or it’ll make society weaker and weaker
@EmyyWolf ugly people need love too
Is this normal? @emyywolf? Is this “natural” in society. So I guess 63% of men are supposed to get “bred out” now? thehill.com/.../
I rarely block people and if say just one more cunt trolling comment and it adios. And if I was so “worthless” why waste your time responding to me anyway? Who cares what I think, right? I’m less than human right? But again why are so many men single nowadays? Why are fewer women having babies?
Are WOMEN happy with how things are in dating right now?
^^^lmfao I’m dead bro. I love this site sometimes
@getwiththepg glad you found the humor in it haha 👍
I ripped on feminism in my take above but I also gave some tough love to the nice guys if you took your time read it. It’s on us to make a DECISiON to who we give our respect to including ourselves. Being too nice to a girl and she starts to take advantage of it? Yeah that hurts. Punch to your ego. But why stick around for the torture? Quit fooling yourself. RESPECT yourself and say adios. Now why is that so bad? I would tell any girl to do the exact same thing if the roles were reversed.
But some people like Emmy above is worried about losing an orbiter or two if more guys wake up to that.
CHILL, DA FUCK.
Yes you’re supposed to be bred out. If you’re unhealthy, low vitamin D, low testosterone, bad habits, no gym, no muscle, can’t fight.
You’re supposed to be bred out. Unless you put your all in to somewhat change your looks. At the very least. Other shit might have to be surgically altered.
And no this isn’t to hurt your feelings. This is fact. Women specially in their 20’s and childbearing ages. “SUBCONSCIOUSLY” choose Chads and Brads. The best genes, best heath. They can’t help it’s. It not CONSCIOUS.
They don’t know they’re doing it.
youtube.com/shorts/FFCVzhVK4S8?si=MTloLeZwLl0tiMYN
And I’m a “cunt” for post facts?
@OP yeah I just re-read everything you said & I agree. To the men reading this, you have to be savage to get the pussy basically. Don’t be an asshole where you’re calling her crazy names & putting hands on her, but you have to give zero fucks & be a savage. For the most part. Some girls are definitely not like that, but my one homie is cuffed to a serious rocket & he fucks other girls basically infront of her. The other guy I know that talks about other men (same guy was supposed to be sending me messages to go to parties that women were inviting me to although somehow I never got these messages even though we lived literally next door in the same house together) think they will win the girl over this way, but they won’t. This is the nice guy image that we’re talking about. So yeah…be savage.
@EmyyWolf well I guess all fat girls should be bred out as well. Let’s see you publicly go around saying that. And people wonder why men are more violent, have 4x suicide rates and die earlier.
You might not get bred out. Women are special JUST for existing. But given your beyond heinous disgusting sick horrible way of thinking then someone might TAKE you out. You would have it coming.
@getwiththepg love how you explained the difference between savage and asshole. I don’t give a f*ck either. Happy to be there or NOT be there if she’s not respecting me.
@EmyyWolf actually I take back the last part I said. I really do. I checked out your YouTube channel. I know your type exactly. In real life people would look at you throwing insults and realize it’s just all projection for self hatred. Not going to say I feel sorry for you. But your destined to be around for a while and to be completely miserable by your own CHOICE.
Men are more violent, have 4x suicide rates and die earlier because they have no control of their emotions. Plus high testosterone, superior strength, turning them into monsters.
And the reason you don’t like what I’m saying is because all throughout life, you’ve been brainwashed with “Marriage” “Disney” , the idea of “The One”. These are only ideas, nothing to do with actual nature.
It’s called THE BLACK PILL.
Female Psychology , Biology, Nature, Genetics, Reproduction.
Marriage, Religion, And Disney movies, are “Social Constructs”. Ideas, Not Based On Nature.
Women are just as human as you are. 🫵 They’re just as animalistic as you are. 🫵
And the more you learn this, the more it’s gonna hurt because you’ve been fed something else. You’ve been taught a different story about women.
WATCH THESE TWO AND ITLL EXPLAIN EVERYTHING 👇
https://youtu.be/gK1w1cAKS7o
https://youtu.be/gCrGHjrcfMc
And yes I think fat women SHOULD also be bred out, but chances are unlikely of that happening because men are sex obsessed.
@EmyyWolf the thing is some of the men getting the most play are infant broke, ugly men who just have ridiculous confidence to not be rejected. Humans are animals, but we’re not feral, so some of your points don’t fully stand. The Cinderella story does though. That’s not realistic, at least in this day & age. But yeah, fat, ugly, short, bummy men are still scoring a lot. Not all of these men that I described, not even a lot of them, but they do. But at the same time these men are not your typical nice guys.
Very well said, and I must say, I couldn't have worded it any better myself. Reading this from start to finish really made me relate to everything you just said here, and as sad as it may seem to some, it is who we are, and looking at how the world is now with toxicity everywhere, I honestly would rather be labeled a "nice guy loser" than an asshole who everyone secretly despises.
Personally speaking, I wouldn't say I had a bad parental upbringing in a manner of speaking, but yes, I was bullied a lot as a child, didn't have any real friends growing up, and was constantly exploited by my peers and replaced when I was no longer of use to them, which made me develop a very negative and antisocial image of myself where I started thinking I'll never be good enough for anyone to ever love me or consider me a true friend.
As an adult, I'm a shell of my former self now. I'm not anti so like I used to be, I made some genuine friends once I got into college, updated my look and style, and my confidence grew through the roof, but yes, coming back to your original answer, I'd now rather stay single with my self respect intact rather than be a piece of tissue paper for someone to use and discard whenever they feel it. And if that means that I may have to stay single for the rest of my life, be that as it may, but I'll never settle for anything less than basic human decency in a woman.
@BullShark @molonski2 remember it comes to down to self respect. Maybe you aren’t quick on your feet verbally and/or witty enough to deal with female bs. Just walk away. Do not let your ego think you can CHANGE her or she will eventually change her mind.
Because one power men still have over women is the amount of ATTENTION we give them. Women really do need that almost as much as they need oxygen. When you deny them that you take your power back.
Also I never referred to myself as a nice guy and would absolutely cringe when a woman I liked called me that. But 1 out of 8 times she actually really was interested. But the 7 out of 8s were just too overwhelming.
Also don’t read a word that oxygen wasting evywolf wrote above. She’s mentally ill. Not an exaggeration. I actually prayed for her yesterday. I know that sounds crazy but I really did.
Also one other comment. Next you guys encounter a woman you find attractive and feel the impulse to be extra nice to her ask yourself this: would you behave that way if you were NOT attracted to her. That’s the acid test.
I have personally done nice things from women who offer me no benefit whatsoever. Sometimes they get the wrong idea but other times it just brightened their day. And that in itself feels good. If I can genuinely brighten someone’s day (man or woman) I find that my OWN day is better. It’s especially fulfilling when the other person is in worse shape than I am. And if the unattractive woman gets the wrong idea I flat out tell her the truth (kindly) that I am not interested. In the rare times she actually tries to take advantage of that then it’s EASY to say no and walk away. Very easy for obvious reasons. But I’ve only had that happen once or twice in my life.
So if you meet an attractive woman ask yourself WHY you are doing more for her then you would for an unattractive woman beyond just approaching her. Also don’t intentionally be mean to the girl you like. You won’t be good at it anyway. Assholes are naturals at that game but you aren’t. So don’t even try that reverse psychology bs. Just treat the the same as any other woman.
I know that’s easier said than done. When you are interested in someone you brain chemistry changes and it really f*ck up your judgment (mother nature is cruel when it comes to all this). You have to be SELF AWARE that your judgment is being compromised.
But again it’s about respecting YOURSELF. I have done plenty of nice things for women without feeling like I was bending over backwards. Reason being is I did that for the sake of doing it vs. hoping to be rewarded. This included dating a drop dead gorgeous 21 year old fitness model when I was 34. I wasn’t a sugar daddy either. She was attracted to me for who I was. In fact she couldn’t get enough in bed. It didn’t end well but it was awesome while it last.
And I ALLOWED myself to accept it. Tell myself I deserved her. Nice guys often subconsciously self sabotage themselves. This has to do with childhood trauma. They have a toxic belief they deserve to be rejected and they are actually trying to relive their childhood feelings. That’s something recovering nice guys do need to (discreetly) get help with including psychotherapy. Faith based communities help a lot too.
Lmao for saying you prayed for EmyyWolf. Holy smokes lmao. But you’ve been dropping nothing but gems here.
@getwiththepg yeah i did for real. That’s crazy right? I was motivated after hearing a sermon about praying for your enemies
Praying? You just said I need to be ELIMINATED.
Wtf lol 😂. @getwiththepg
Are you fucking r—arded?
I said something you don’t like. And you say I need to be executed. This is why women don’t tell men the turth. We just tell you “oh you’ll find the one”. Exactly BECAUSE OF THIS.
Thanks man, I appreciate the honesty. And yes, you're right about the other bit you added as well, but personally speaking, every nice deed I've done for anybody; man or woman, it's never been about wanting to gain something out of it. I just do those things because I like helping people as much as I can, whenever I can. Maybe that's just my upbringing, but yeah, there have been more times than I can count where salty women get the wrong idea or even jealous men too. To them, all I say is they can think whatever they want, because whatever you tell those people will never be enough if they've already decided otherwise.
As for you @EmyyWolf so far all the comments I've read from you, be those on this specific comment or anywhere else on G@G, all you do is whine, complain, and degrade men, while trying to justify toxic behavior in women as if it's some form of privilege. Get off the internet, go outside and touch some grass, and I'll also be sure to send you some prayers. Hope you get well soon 🙏
@BullShark
Prayers?
You’re all sheep 🐑 . Religion is a cult.
It’s the same thing as believing in Santa 🎅🏻.
I teach the Black Pill because it’s true. It sucks, but waking up sucks. You’re supposed to understand female psychology and female sexuality to attract the female.
Women go into heat. And when they go into heat they desire a physically strong masculine man of higher testosterone than the average.
It’s subconsciously.
https://youtu.be/MfdP6IySv6c
I recently uploaded this video explaining how women go into heat.
@BullShark nothing wrong with treating people decently as long as you respect YOURSELF in the process.
Also emyywolf is posting comments somehow thinking people are actually paying attention to her. After read her earlier vile malicious comment about being “bred out” I quit reading all her responses. That’s like me saying to a woman “well if you were sexually assaulted you probably deserved it because all you are is an object with no other intrinsic value in the world”. But I would never say that to anyone because if I did that shows more of a problem with me then the other person.
It’s what she is saying is just projection out of self hatred. And my prayer was genuine. While she’s got zero justification to talk to people that way (unprovoked too) it’s also highly indicative she’s absolutely miserable with her life.
Content people don’t talk to others like that. So yes pray for her but don’t read a word she posts on GAG.
Anyway self respect is simple as disengaging with someone who doesn’t respect you. It’s that easy.
Straight facts man, every time. Yes definitely, there's nothing more important to a person than their self respect in situations like this, where people can easily take you for granted simply because who you are and walk all over you in the process, which needs to be mandated and boundaries need to be set up in case that doesn't happen.
There was a time back when I was still a teenager where I would do favors for this girl a couple time I was friends with, not because I was really attracted to her, but because I liked helping her, and she started taking it the wrong way, thinking I was doing it to get into her pants, so she started taking advantage of my niceness like using me for validation and shit. Obviously I caught on, and cut myself off from her life forever, and never spoke to her after that again.
Also yeah, you're right about EmyyWolf as well. After reading her last comment she made, calling religions a "cult" and comparing women to animals that go rabid in heat (something I can guaran-fuckin-tee no self respecting woman would agree with being called that way), I can agree with you that she's full of shit, which is why I didn't bother replying to her either because I don't want to give her the benefit of the doubt.
I'll save the rest of you readers the trouble and just say that I couldn't watch more than 15 seconds of her poorly edited video "in her car" because why would you record someplace a normal person would, like a quiet room maybe, and all throughout, she kept babbling about how women desire "certain men" and whatnot (yeah, no shit Sherlock. It's called having preferences and there's nothing wrong with that). Just pure asinine
@BullShark I was raised by a very controlling mother who was placed “her image” as top priority. She brainwashed me into always giving the woman the benefit of the doubt. She’s also in a minority of women who are extremely inflexible out of insecurity and is actually happy when she’s in complete control.
This lead to me being unable to distinguish if a woman was just shit texting me or just had no respect for me. I also grew up in a time where the phrase “friendzone” didn’t even exist.
So of course I had several woman try to exploit the living f out of that. But I will say I got a bit wiser after each hard lesson. And the curve ball is I have had young and beautiful woman have real feelings for me for being nice. But this is at best 1 out of 5 viable women I’ve met in my life.
Anyway there is NOTHING WRONG with being a genuine nice guy. It’s not a bad thing if you want the best for other people. It’s a really good feeling to help someone for the sake of being a decent person. It’s fulfilling. Especially if they are worse off then you are. There is scripture about “those who refresh others will themselves be refreshed”.
But sadly you always need to have your guard up. That is just so depressing. Also a lot of “nice guys” secretly expect to be paid back then they do something nice for a woman they like. Most of the time they don’t even realize they are doing that.
It’s hard to be yourself around a person you like. Your brain chemicals can and will warp your best judgment if you let it. And I think “nice guys” struggle with self discipline on that. They need to treat an attractive woman the exact same way they would treat a woman they are not interested in. If they are nice to all women then fine just be genuinely nice to the girl you like. But never “expect” her to reward you for it. Just do a favor for the sake of it.
Also about Emyy she’s either one or a combination of the following:
- Very overweight/unattractive and very angry she doesn’t get the same kind of attention as her prettier friends do.
- Grew up with an abusive/absent father.
- Has very deep seated psychological problems
Anyway she has embraced radical feminism as a sugar high (and literally an addiction). She is looking for opportunities to “get revenge” on men. She knows men with “nice guy” issues are a vulnerable segment and she wants to drive as much pain as possible to “get even” with men.
But this will never make her happy and satisfied. It’s just projection for all her self hatred. And any man who read more than two sentences of her malicious insanity will never take her seriously. She’s literally a middle school bully. That won’t work on a grown men.
But again all that hatred originates from her own pain and depression. That’s what I’m praying for. That God will show her a better way. Not for us. But for her.
I’m not a feminist 😆 wtf are you talking about. I was a Trump supporter for the longest. I’m still anti LGBT, anti fat acceptance, anti feminist, anti karen. Anti SJW, all that.
All I said is that women instinctively breed certain men out. By instinct. You can do nothing about it. I can’t find a button in their brain to make women attracted to you 🫵
It’s impossible.
Then I said. To be successful with the female. You need to understand female nature.
I’m a BLACKPILLed woman.
That's actually pretty tragic to hear, my man, but I sympathize with you. I wasn't raised by a controlling woman, but yes, my mother was indeed still a huge part of shaping my personality into what it is now. She instilled in me the teachings of why you need to be a good person to everyone, even if they're bad to you, especially women because women are "fragile", they don't have any control over their emotions like men do, and they need to be protected. So growing up with that mindset, I sometimes let people walk all over me without me even thinking about it. Now as an adult though, I can pick out the bs in people and see them for who they really are
@EmyyWold wow. That really is very sad to hear about you, if I'm being honest. Believe it ot not, I've seen women irl who are like you too actually; who thrive off of negativity and torturing seemingly weak and vulnerable men while secretly also despising the "good ones" whom they claim are the ones that women actually want and consider attractive (as she spouted in her hate riddled low quality video). Why? Because as much as they hate the weak men and love making fun of their insecurities and shortcomings, they also know that the good, attractive and successful men don't want them either because of the three denominating factors you mentioned. Which is why you're on here preaching about why the black pill is "the truth".
Newsflash for you though, it isn't. Blackpillers are simply depressed and lonely individuals who see negativity in everyone and believe you NEED to fit into a certain demographic in order to seem "attractive and breedable" to the opposite gender.
Yeah no. There's nothing "true" about what you say besides a series of unfortunate events that may have occured in your personal life to make you have such a negative mindset. Also, you say one thing but then go on and behave like the complete opposite, which is another trait blackpillers are popularly known for; twisting their words to seem smart.
And fyi, thanks for the tips albeit useless, but I don't need any pointers on how to make women "attracted to me". I'm happy as I am and I'm already as successful as anyone can be in this game. I understand female psyche enough to know they don't "breed men out and fw the rest" whatever you said, nor do they treat the other ones they don't find attractive as cattle
@EmyyWolf also, nobody cares about your responses either. The way everyone sees it, you're the one who chose to comment under an answer, and now YOU'RE the one that's the blackpilled butthurt, while the rest of us are simply having a civil conversation. This'll be my last comment on here too because at this point, you are literally just a child who can't come up with anything constructive, is radical feminist and clearly hates men, and claims to be one thing but says something completely different. You're quite clearly just a troll with way too much free time on their hands so they're on here wasting everyone else's too. Seek professional mental help while you still can. 🙏
@BullShark
Oh so now you’re admitted to being sissies who get easily butthurt?
Well no wonder either of you aren’t cracking shit. No one’s gonna let a coward male crack
😆😆
Weak male, can’t protect anyone, no testosterone, probably porn addicted which lowers testosterone even more
@BullShark don’t even read a word she says. I didn’t. Emyy I have completely ignored ever word you said after I read your initial response. Seriously I haven’t wasted a second of my time reading a word a wrote after I saw what you are all about. You are just wasting your time.
Anyway @bullshark emyy NEEDS attention as badly as she needs oxygen. Doesn’t matter if it’s positive or negative attention. This likely stems from the lack of positive attention she has received in life.
I am also genuine about my assessment of her. It hit a deep nerve with her because it’s most likely true. I actually said that out of tough love but she will never know the difference. I’ve met women who act like her and I know all the derision they spew just stems from deep insecurities and self hatred.
That doesn’t justify her vitriol. But she’s not fooling anybody on here that she is the one who is completely miserable. Again I pray for that because it’s a horrible way to live.
🫵 ( P🐱SY) 🫵
@BullShark
Why do we get bogged down with all these stupid phrases, verbs, pronouns, ohhh is he alpha male, is he beta male, is he this, is he that. I will do my best not to swear but it is really freakin' ridiculous. Women don't know what they want, they don't know how to communicate, not all but most girls I talked to seem that way. I don't want to be labelled as a nice guy because in this heartless, cold, cutthroat world, females in general can be cold and calculated with their emotions.
If a guy is genuinely a good dude and he's done things to prove his worth to her but she has this i don't care approach. Human beings want to be valued and appreciated. If females of today want to be respected and protected, are girls and women doing their role to be by a hard working guy or man... I question that. I see a lot of women today who want to be independent, which is fine. But I find it odd that there are girls or women out there who will love and value a dog or then a man or guy. A dog won't grab a woman's hand and say let me take you for dinner, let me give an intellectual response why you are hurting inside or letting you vent about a colleague manager who may be annoying you. How can women take relationships or marriage seriously when so many guys can be rejected at their finger tips, the feminism movement that teaches such awful things and then LGBTQ+ movement where you have women acting like men and men acting like women and I find girls who have extremely high expectations as red flags.
Because no one in this world, regular human beings are not perfect. My advice to guys is keep your expectations low for a female, be respectful, don't expect sex, communicate and be clear with your intentions right away with her, have the mindset to want to get married to her, focus on your own life (health: physical/mental, job, school, etc. don't buy a girl a gift for a first date. The girl should be the pursuer. I have realized as I have gotten older, women act so hot and cold with their emotions, one minute they love you and they are love bombing you with compliments, sending memes and telling you where the two of you should go to completely stop talking to you. Girls and women like this are a head case, stubborn, manipulative, dramatic, arrogant and these women and girls actually think these things are a badge of honour as a woman. Meanwhile, she doesn't want those bad qualities in a guy, ahhh hypocrisy at its finest.
Lastly, to any guy reading this never tell a girl or woman you're a nice guy, prove it, be respectful to her, be a gentleman, if she is wasting your time, or she doesn't see value in you as a man, forget about her because there is no convincing in the world that will change her mindset, move on, wish her well, don't talk to her again. If she wants to act like a *bleep* let her, God is watching.
I'm not sure how finishing last has to do with getting girls 🤔 Finishing last occurs during sex, whereas getting girls occurs outside of sex, don't they?
Did you mean that guys who finish last can get girls, and those who finish first won't get girls?
I would communicate if I had a partner that finished first. I think communication is important in a relationship, but I would think that if a guy finished first, he might not have been a gentleman, so finishing last vs. first can indicate some of a guy's character, but it's not the finishing first itself that would make me not want to be with a guy.
It's basically noting that when it comes to a girl picking someone to date they typically will choose the good guy last or later in life. Meaning they would rather date other people (in this case would be the bad boys/asshole idea) and once they are tired of that they will then pick the nice guy. hence good guys finish last. Like a race and the end goal is dating the girl.
Ohh in that sense. I misinterpreted... @Novacane Thank you for explaining.
Then, I don't agree that's true for everyone's situation, neither every guy nor every woman. I know that I'm one woman who does not like "bad guys."
It's just a saying. I've seen lots of nice men that are happily married with kids. Just go outside and you'll see them. Also, nice men can also be single and happy.
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The truth is most females want a guy that she can look up to and feel safe and protected by , she doesn’t want a guy that she looks down upon , and most guy’s don’t want a girl that doesn’t look up to him , he wants a girl that stands by his side no matter what , for any relationship to survive both partners need to make Each other their top priority over everyone else. no matter what obstacles they face together , they both have to choose each other , if a partner decides to be selfish and only thinks about themselves then that relationship turns one sided and it more than likely won’t last , most people get into relationships only thinking what is best for themselves and not considering their partners’ feelings. Most relationships fail when this type of mindset occurs because it is a selfish mindset if you can never admit that you were wrong thinking you are always right
You mean get the girl he wants? Sure, it's possible.
I think I'm also an example of the "Nice guys finish last" kind of scenario.
But thats because I am looking for a long term fulfilling relationship, not a quick fuck.
If I wanted a quick fuck all I have to do is practice approaching and statistically that would be enough. Even if its a 1 in 1000 chance that she says yes as long as I approach 1000 girls i'd basically then be guaranteed to get laid. But its simply not what I am looking for.
I'm looking for that rare special girl I can truly commit to, and that takes a lot longer to find since she's unfortunately a rare find. So I finished last in that sense, but I merely skipped all the casual stuff.
Nice guys, not the fake kind who need to work on themselves but actual nice guys, will never finish first unless they're attractive because it's a choice women make, and these days they like bad boys and players and then complaining about it to nice guys. The proper question is how to recognise a woman who isn't like most women... I'm not sure they exist, a man is either a wallet or a bad boy as far as I've ever seen. I hear stories of nice women, but I've never met one or seen anything like it in real life so I doubt its existence.
I was and still am the good guy. All the "bad boys" are alone and miserable. Some have commited suicide due to depression. Most are alcoholics, drug addicts. The ones I know at least. Meanwhile I am happily married, wealthy, have multiple homes in multiple countries and 3 beautiful children from the 1 woman i have ever been with to name a few things. I finished first in every sense of the word. The secret for me was knowing what I wanted and then realizing American women could never hold a candle to true femininity found in other countries. Once I realized that I stopped looking at American women, stopped talking to them, stopped acknowledging them etc. I met the woman I married a few days later.
I think this phrase is in reference to something else besides dating. But in dating this is what I believe. I believe a lot of women want a man who is “dangerous,” lives on the edge, spontaneous, someone who’s exciting, maybe a little chaotic, etc. Especially younger women. After years of pursuing these type of men many of them get hurt by these men. They may end up getting hurt, maybe end up as a single mother, etc. So eventually these women finally realize these bad boy types aren’t goi g to change, they’ve reached a certain age. Still not married or even a boyfriend so they go after these “nice men” w all their baggage expecting them to accept them like that. Which a lot of them will. That’s what I think it means.
That's just a saying used by mentally ill people who are jaded and think their ratchet culture is normal.
Most people want someone who is smart, kind and not prone to overly primitive or emotional behavior. These "bad boys" are just insecure losers who hide behind casual sex so they don't have to show their feelings, be vulnerable and actually have a real relationship.
No hate on people who simply want casual sex and do it respectfully. I'm talking about these players and "alpha pimps."
Low class and utterly ratchet.
In my very limited experience, all men finish first! Some are just thoughtful enough to take care of the woman before they even begin. #WinWin
(Sorry it’s seven months late, I just saw the question now for the first time.)
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Honestly as sad as it sounds the only way this would happen is if the guy and the girl met earlier in life. Meaning they liked each other in middle school and/or dated in HS. Besides that, they guy would just have to be at the right place at the right time, so luck.
Being overly nice makes you seem really desparate or awkward. A woman can smell it a stranger doesn't go out of his way to do things for her unless he is looking to get something in return, say a relationship or something else. This is a turn off. And nice guy behavior is not masculine
There is a difference, the nice guys aren't like that with everybody. Masculine men with good mental health will help anyone old, young, man, woman. Thats what the best kind of man is, a masculine one.
As for nice guys we can finish first & ladies if you want to settle for the players, cheaters, wife beaters, deadbeats or what you call bad boys go ahead you are probably doing us a favor. On the flip side you don’t know what you had until it’s gone so treasure us while you can & believe me us nice guys will treasure you.
Doesn’t work like that. How many girlfriends or girls have you slept with?
Bundle that kindness (if it's genuinely there) with competent leadership qualities, strength, and charm. And being kind doesn't have to mean someone has to be boring and allergic to living life on the edge.
A nice guy whose objective is to do nice things and win a girl so he can land some pussy….. isn’t a nice guy. He’s a creep in sheep’s clothing
A truly nice guy is authentic to himself and does good things regardless of an attractive woman’s presence.
That may depend on what you want. A lot of one-night-stands? Become a gym rat, then go peacocking at clubs. A happy long-term relationship? Make friends, male and female, and be a mensch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensch You won't have to chase women, they will chase you.
By having the mindset of a leader and not a follower, be your own self, it's far more respected than any pushover, that means dont be afraid to express yourself or your opinion and create your own boundaries and follow them over anything and anyone, I've noticed many play a persona and eventually women catch them slip cause it's a mask, it has to be a mental change, actual change to personality, it's only acquired with self respect, motivation and experience.
Nice guys finish last is actually a remark about how nice people earn less money in their businesses than greedy people do (as in they retire last).
It has nothing to do with relationships.
Female jerks like male jerks, nice females like nice males, and vice versa on both. Its not a race, its a compatibility check.
He can't! Nice guys don't get shit except taken advantage of. Its kinda hard to explain to a guy that's in his 30's and has been nice to girls his whole life. Why being kind of an asshole but never a dick is attractive to girls. Being a bad boy my whole life is still attractive to women my age. Remember never a dick!
Some men just never get a chance. I can be the nicest guy in the world but if I’m too short or socially awkward I will never get a chance. For that kind of guy to finish first the only way I see it happening is for him to get a very nice career with good pay.
By finding a nice woman. Too many guys think that "nice guys" finish last. Problem is they simply don't realize the sheer number of low quality women out. You can't make a poor quality man or woman into a high quality man or woman. The "nice guys" need to stop entertaining trash women.
Adopt some bad boy traits
with a miracle, or else they are not finishing first, nope not happening
so yes, as long as you keep the nice guy thing and not grow out of it you are doomed
If a guy wants to finish first, it’s easy. Heat chest needs to close his eyes and start pounding for a couple of minutes. I’m nice guy, though, would always make sure his lady finishes first.
Nice guy's just need be confident, financially stable, be masculine and make a girl feel safe and protected, and know that they can rely on you.
By being real nice and not a fake nice.
Also, men still have this idiot belief that we like bad boys. Pathetic.
Oh, i am sure you like bad boys..
You don't have to be an asshole to get a girlfriend. You can be confide t, talented, motivated, smart, athletic and compassionate without all the drama
He can finish first by meeting a nice girl who is looking for a nice guy. The problem is that nice girls tend to get ignored too.
Always go out with fat, ugly girls that always finish last. Either that or become a major fucking asshole! Girls LOVE guys like that!!
Thats an easy question to answer
All a guy has to do to finish last is to show her that he's reliable, that he cares and helps her out if he can.
I’d say it’s true initially. Bad guys can get instant gratification upfront more likely. But nice guys is a better strategy and it does come back around.
They don’t. Nice guys never finish first. Always last. Women don’t want a pathetic beta male. The only way for a nice guy to finish first is to turn into an ass. Women love it. They respect you more. Women love alphas.
By not being boring and weak. If the guy is nice, but fun and able to handle himself he will not have issues.
If a guy is "nice" and isn't getting good dating outcomes, the problem isn't that he's "nice." The problem is most likely that he's a loser. He needs to address that.
When you figure it out let me know. Cause I want to know.
People must never Stop being who they are. The Right person will come, but sometimes you have to wait!
I don’t know what nice guys finish first certainly not me anymore.
With women? Become richer, better looking, and tasller.
Yeah it's really about the most Western thing used in existence.
You're 36-45 years old asking questions like a 12 year old.
Learn that there is a difference between being nice and being a doormat.
You're asking this as a woman? Aren't you supposed to know this stuff?
You just have to jump into the game and play. There is no secret.
Be polite, kind, and considerate.
As a Fenerbahçe supporter😅
Hopefully not in under 3 minutes..
The three of us are in the restaurant, you, me and that gorgeous, gold digging bitch Goddess... she orders me to go to the counter and pay the exorbitant bill, and I sneak into the bathroom and rub out a quick, furtive jerk session, before returning to the table and handing her a hundred dollar bill for the evening that awaits the two of you, and I take the bus home... lol
By being a quickshot.
By not picking trash women
Be more than "nice".
Be confident and independent
Nope. Not the “nice guy”
Find a big girl.
By being nice to himself.
Stop being nice and have a backbone
Won’t happen
Achieve Gear 5
He can't
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