Is it still considered a date if the man and woman split the bill at the restaurant?

[Ginger1907]

[HawkPerception]

Personally, if a girl isn't willing to pay her share on a date, then I don't see the point in pursuing a relationship with her. If that's likely going to be the nicest she's going to be (first impression) then what does that say about my future? Women have equality nowadays. Equal pay, equal rights. If that's the case, why would their time be considered more valuable than my own to the point where I have to pay for her to be there? Is she looking for a sugar daddy or an equal partnership? Is she not also interested in the date?

I find it crazy that women expect all the benefits of equality while having none of the responsibilities that come with it. We aren't living in the 1970s anymore. Women don't make a fraction of what men make. I know it's hard to give up the benefits of the past in dating, but if they want equality that's what they have to do.

Now don't get me wrong. If a girl tells me she wants a traditional relationship from the get-go (she does all the housework and I'm the breadwinner) then I'd be willing to pay the date. But you can't just pick and choose all the benefits you want in a relationship. You can't expect a man to make the money and pay for all the dates and rent and have him come back home and spend more time cooking and cleaning.

Children are a different matter though. That's a full time job for both parents. When the man is done working (in a traditional relationship) then he should help his partner with the kid/s.

Anyways... going dutch is the way to go in dating. The girl doesn't feel like she owes the guy anything afterwards, and the guy doesn't feel used if things don't work out.

In this economy nowadays, a good girl is one that has a little financial literacy and empathy towards her partner's financial circumstances. A girl that tries to pitch in. And if she wants a man to pay on a date, then she should make it clear that she prefers a traditional dynamic in a relationship.

[Finchie40]

Just depends on how they both feel about it , if I am taking a girl on a date , my intentions is to pay for the date since I am the one asking her , if she offered to pay half the bill , I would kindly decline her offer and say no , I got it and tell her she can pay for the next one , if there will be a next one lol. If a girl calls me and asks me to go on a date with her , I will be upfront with her and tell her my financial issues if I am tight on cash , if she offers to pay for me , then that’s up to her and I will tell her I will pay for
The next one. Why communication is important , if a girl just expects me to pay for everything? She isn’t the girl for me , and I wouldn’t waste my time when her anymore , I am looking for a partner not a user

[osmanthus]

Sure, why not? The date is categorized as a meet between two persons regardless of sex and gender who have decided to get to know one another intimately and perhaps even ask borderline very personal questions in order to see whether or not the other person may be a suitable marriage partner for them. Traditionally this is what is the case when it comes to dating but modern dating nowadays it's not so much about finding a marriage partner but finding a person to assuage the loneliness and possible boredom of the other person, so, this is categorized as modern dating I wouldn't consider this as a hangout if in fact the other person has made an inconsiderable effort to get to know the person beyond superficial chit chat.

[osmanthus]

In such in such cases it usually means that nowadays people meet just too well get it on or to have sex whether it's just for a night or two or whether just for specific time frame or until such case that they can become bored with one another but they just might find somebody else to bang or smash with.

[osmanthus]

In essence modern dating is more like playing pinball that it is about bowling. The game always resets itself and you have multiple balls in the wings but with bowling it's a hit or miss you might get a spare or you might get nothing and end up in the gutter but if you manage to score well you've made considerable effort and it's paid off in the traditional sense of the word, that is, if you're lucky.

[osmanthus]

I personally don't have much energy for modern dating. I understand some women and men do when they get off on dating in this way with the constant rotating of new suitors every week and every day for however long that way of dating appeases them.

[luvstoned4him]

I think the first date a guy should pay and thats because he is trying to make an impression to the girl he wants to be with, Assuming he is interested in her to that extent.

Men naturally love to provide and show a woman that they can take care of her so I would question if that really is a date

[Serkee]

Why wouldn't it be? Men were expected to pay the bill on dates in the past because they worked and women didn't. That's not the case anymore. Expecting the man to pay the bill nowadays just because he's a man is nothing but entitlement and sexism.

[Kayla45]

Perfectly normal, It’s considered polite on both parties. Some guys will still foot the bill for a girl he likes, but that’s not always the case anymore.

[Billlewis]

Although it may still technically be a date, it would lose much of its luster if she didn't let me pay for it in its entirety.

[Aubrey97]

Who pays isn't relevant to whether it's a date or not.

[Abbycado]

Uh, yeah. That is how it works most of the time.

[Lynx122]

So you can't get to know someone unless you're getting something out of it?

[CheeseMonster]

That depends on whether it was a date or not.

[Apple1996]

Not a date at all. Just two people that happen to be meeting up for dinner

[exitseven]

Yes, two people attending an event is a date even if they split the bill.

[vj0090]

Is it about bill? Who pays it.. question.. why it's always expected that boy will pay the bill haha

[Bklynbadboy12]

Not that's not a date that's to people just hanging out together as friends

[Anonymous]

I'd imagine it would depend on how that decision was arrived at.

[DrPepper12]

Does RFK, Jr leave dead bears in central park?

[sirderpsalot123]

That's still a date

[Staximus]

Yeah, unless they are just friends

[LiamJHayden]

Why would it not be?

[noohair]

It is a date if you guys planned to meet and met.

[CubaPirate]

Absolutely 💯 %

[_piotr]

Yes, it is!

[eagle1951]

nope