
https://www.intheknow.com/post/woman-left-outraged-by-dates-dehumanizing-request/

Ok, it depends, ignore everything anyone said bellow, here is the actual law in multiple states.
If THEY are the one that has no interest, if they had not intended to date long term and lead you on believing it was a possibility, you have the legal right to sue them for damages regarding the cost of the date. Not only can you be compensated for their expenditures, but they can be forced, by law, to pay all of your legal fees, and punitive damages for the action.
It comes down to, were they a gold digger (male or female) looking for a free meal? If yes, you can sue them, if no, courts will throw out the lawsuit. It really is assessed on the concept that they never intended to date them long term, and lead them on to obtain some benefit.
(You could technically argue the same thing about men that only want sex and then ghost, however, as sex has no legal monetary value the courts cannot currently award damages, as it would then be considered illegal under most states laws)
Personally, I just always ask to split the bill at the actual time of the date. It removes any doubt from everyone involved, no one is out anything really if it doesn’t work out. It’s overall fair, and shouldn’t be something that offends anyone.
Is it okay? Well, there is no law that would prohibit you from making the request, but would not expect to get much of a response from a lady if I had already made it clear that I had no interest in moving forward with her. My time would be better spent by going to the beach and taking a leak in the ocean in hopes of raising the tide!
Bahahahaahahahahahahahahaha
You already paid, and days have past. Unless you wanted to split the bill initially and she knew it and pressured you into paying for all of it, then it makes no sense to expect her to pay you for that now. That's like the people who take back gifts they got each other after they break up. The exchange was over. You lost rights to that after you gave it to them. That's how gift-giving works. If you were just letting them borrow something of yours then ofc take it back, but geez. Just cause you don't like them anymore doesn't mean you get to change the past. Being mad doesn't make you a financial time traveler.
Okay, I'm sorry but people are getting too ridiculous with it... If you want someone to go Dutch, you establish that BEFORE the date! They went out on not 1 but 3 dates. And nothing was said about reimbursement till After it didn't work out? So what, now people expect dating/relationship refunds?
How much more ridiculous can people get. People bitch about paying child support for their kids, but expect money back after a date... Omg...
And then people ask why I don't date anymore..smh🤦🏼♀️
Sooooooo that would be a NO for you? Ha Ha Ha
Well I voted pass the popcorn 🤣 but then I just had to say something cuz I can't believe how petty people getting
bahahahahaahahahahaha fair enough
I mean that's like inviting you and cynical over for drinks, cards and food... But didn't enjoy your guys company like I thought I would, so couple days later telling you you both owe me money for the drinks and food. Sounds pretty stupid, don't it 🤷🏼♀️
If people are going to treat dating like that, they shouldn't date in my humble opinion
There's other ways to have a date without spending a lot of money
@Brainsbeforebeauty Did I hear you invite me over for drinks, cards, and food?
I'll be right over! And I'll be nice and bring dessert: ice cream, cake, popcorn, or cookies!
@Cynicaldreamer sounds good, but then I'm burying my scale in the back yard 🤣🤣
@Brainsbeforebeauty @Cynicaldreamer That would never happen... I am a true pleasure to be around. LOL And I will bring my famous Cincinnati Chili Dip where both your scales have no shot after eating this! Ha
@coachTanthony You're a pleasure to be around? Says who?
And I'm fat enough without you contributing to it, LOL. I had to order a new scale because I broke my old one... for reasons 😶
LOL sounds good burying my scale now 🤣 but you better be fun, cuz otherwise... shovel, fresh dirt 🤔🤷🏼♀️🤣🤣
@Brainsbeforebeauty Are you going to bury me or the scale? I can never tell what you mean on here Brains Ha Ha Ha
@Cynicaldreamer did you really? Lol uuhh I mean sorry to hear that lol
@Cynicaldreamer Well I will let you in on a little secret because there is no way you could have known this... lol...
but I am an extrovert. I know I know shocking. So that means I will pick up the slack for you in the fun department. Deal?
Both 🤣🤣🤣
@Brainsbeforebeauty It's okay I won't ask you for any money for the chili dip. You can let me live lol
🤣🤣 Okay, as long as you fun, and won't ask for money for the drinks 🤣
@Brainsbeforebeauty Yeah... lol
I got mad because my weight went up (again), so I threw my scale. It's broken now 🤣
But my new one will be here today! It measures everything from bmi to muscle mass. Got it cheap too!
As long as my weight goes down and not up, we'll be okay, LOL
You're an extrovert?
... eww. I'm tired at the thought of talking to you already, lol.
@Cynicaldreamer Maybe we can play two truths and a lie. What do you both say? @Brainsbeforebeauty
But, I cannot tell a lie 😁🤣
I wonder what Cynical likes to do when friends get together? Hmmmmm @Cynicaldreamer
Who me?
Eat, laugh at idiots, eat some more, and just relax. I'm a simple creature
@Cynicaldreamer "laugh at idiots".. So I guess the topic of GAG would come up then 🤣🤣
@Brainsbeforebeauty I'm already planning to have the site pulled up! We can even have a drinking game over it: take a shot everytime someone asks a dumb question
... nevermind, we'd be hammered in less than an hour 🤣
Okay sounds like a plan lets sit around and make fun of GAG. LOL Brains will you be flying us in and providing us with bedrooms and pajamas? I like the ones where my feet are enclosed... and love chocolates on my pillow... that too! LOL
@coachTanthony do I look like a hotel maid to you? And sure you can catch a flight on the "Broomstick express"🤣🤣
@Cynicaldreamer omg right 🤣🤣
@Brainsbeforebeauty Okay Okay no chocolate on the pillows geeeez. lol
🤣🤣🤣🍫 there happy now
Yes !!! Chocolates... now let’s discuss bed time stories? I many reading suggestions 😂😂😂
Omg want me to tuck you in too, next you'll say you need a night light 🙄🤣🤣
Can we just focus on one thing at a time... I’m getting there 🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣 LOL
Gets to the point where people are just way too much hassle to date 😂
@obtuseocelot or too stupid 🤣🤣
Way too often 😂🤦🏻♂️
@obtuseocelot I agree!! Gets you unwilling to even leave the house 🤣
I was already there! 😏
@obtuseocelot where? Not wanting to leave the house? Or at my house? 🤣 Cuz damn must of been drunk, don't remember that 🤣🤣
I meant my place, you haven't invited me over yet! 😂
@obtuseocelot how you getting here? On your broomstick 😁🤣
Astral projection. ✨
@obtuseocelot 🤣🤣🤣 okay good luck with that lolol
I can believe it. Everyday we descend another step into the ether of chaos. The world is going nuts, it's not just the US. Australia is pretty much done, they have descended in to full authoritarianism, it seems like we're racing them to the bottom. So no, not surprised at the pettiness. Even if the date goes wrong I pay and go my way. It's cheaper to pay, then to argue about paying.
@Floppy2112 or just say something before. I think a lot of females would rather split the bill than have a guy think he's entitled to sex cuz he paid for dinner...
Two problems with that
1- I personally don't do obligation sex cuz that just kills the moment...
2-some sex is worth more than a $10-15 dollar dinner just saying 🤷🏼♀️🤣
Well, I am a rare bird I guess. I don't 'expect sex', I don't even necessarily want it from a single date. Hmmm, am I missing out on some action I could have otherwise had if I just expected it?
There is a part of this world I am clearly not privy to. I need to be more of a pig.
@Floppy2112 no you don't! Stay a gentleman... Just because some pics expect sex on the first date don't mean they GET it, just usually means there's no SECOND date
Sounds like they get it all the time! I am missing out on the action... Oh well.
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I would have send him a bit more and told him "keep the change, apparently you need it"
in that case can you pay for the taxi to the airport and aeroplane home. I travelled 16000miles to see you 😭
lol I expected as much
Remember the old cartoon "Cosby Show"? One of the guys was always saying:
"No class."
That's how I feel about a guy asking for a date "refund." No class.
Fuck no! LOL That gets my "Biggest Loser Move of the Month" award so far. What a jerk off.
If he wasn't comfortable with paying for all of any date, he should has brought it up then, and certainly after the first date.
Or... she could invoice him for $300 and bill it out like this:
ENTERTAINMENT BILL FOR DATE
*** Fun, great conversation, being seen in the company of a beautiful girl : $100 x 3 = $300
This includes your loser discount because I feel sorry for you.
Thank you for validating my lack of interest and proving my instincts about you were correct.
Bahahahahahahahaa that would of been smooth.
It would be fun if more girls did that if a guy ever retroactively asks for a Dutch treat. Geez, what if you go out for 3 months and something happens and you stop dating? You gonna go after her to split all those dates too?
DUTCH, DUTCH, DUTCH!!! Go Dutch on first dates, so if they're miserable and fail, no one's out much money. Agree where you're going to go: usually a coffee date or breakfast. Both cost very little money. But do this BEFOREHAND.
You come across as a miserable MISER if you try to do this afterward.
I'm Dutch and I approve of this message lol
Asking for reimbursement after the fact is beyond pathetic. What a total loser. He's an embarrassment to the male gender; the opposite of gentleman.
She should not only block him but also share his messages with the world so that, hopefully, no women will ever agree to date him again. Can you imagine being in a relationship with such a petty, selfish prick?
If he is such a chickenshit, he should have taken her out for a cup of coffee at a cheep diner or told her up front that if he paid for a meal he expected sex in return.
I'm not against the idea of splitting the bill. At the same time, being the one to pay and taking responsibility in doing so, it will show lack of integrity on your end to ask the money back just because it didn't go the way you want it. This isn't about impressing the other person or taking "revenge". It's about your own self-image and not end up being disappointed in yourself for being so petty. I've gone on a date once in the past and ended up paying for everything and still got a rejection. Yet, I didn't ask her to pay for her half. I just took it as a lesson and made sure it's not repeated again.
If you insist on paying the bill, then take full responsibility. Which means taking an L if things don't turn out the way you want to. All in all, it's best to avoid paying for the whole bill all together and either split the bill, go on financially cheap dates or go on dates that don't involve money at all.
I start out splitting, or outright asking them to pay. To do so down the line is just petty, if you offered to pay, you paid. I'm going to guess it was never anything specific like "I pay for dinner and you give me a blowjob" then he could request a refund if he doesn't get blown. Honestly I wouldn't want to get blown by someone that cheap though...
Regardless, you date without expectations except that you will meet a person, likely not the one you see in pictures. To be that immature and petty about offering to pay for a meal, and not having expectations you never voiced met, he isn't making her look worse, just himself.
Really, with that kind of attitude towards dating, giving up on the idea and getting escorts would be better, you know, as long as he tells them what he wants. Good luck asking for half-off there lol
It does not matter if a date or with friends, asking days afterwards to split the bill, is just crass and would reflect on what a cock the person was.
Also the entire are we splitting the bill thing is before a the date or when deciding on restaurant.
if I found out any mates had done this, they would get piss taken out of them mercilessly, also they would go down in everyone’s reckoning.
Imagine 3 dates in, you decide it does not work, then get a bill for 3 meals lol.
anyone doing this would need to look at themselves as a person.
Meh. Any court in the world will tell you that you cannot claim for something days after. Especially if there was no proof of the other party agreeing to the cost. By that logic anyone could claim you owe them 35 bucks because you met them for "drinks" a while back.
But these sorts of social media callouts usually end up being made up/misconstrued horseshit anyway. (S) he's just looking for attention is all.
Wtf. If you like a girl fr and she meets your requirements and treats you with respect and you want to buy her a meal, buy her one. Enjoy your date and thats that. If it doesn't work out it doesn't. Its just money. You will get more. If she's a real lady then she deserves it.
You idiots keep buying ho bags meals and getting used. Never buy a meal for a girl that doesn't respect you. Thats some dumb ass shit. Thats why you hate it.
Now if you didn't pay yet and she starts acting all bullshit then dont pay. I did this one. As soon as we sat down she basically said she wanted to be friends so i made her split the bill and she was pissed. Nbd either.
LOL if a guy asked me to give his money back for the date we went on, I’d be pumped he wasn’t interested in me anymore.
I never expect a guy to pay on the first, and I’m happy to split the check or take it myself. Once you commit, though, days after? Seriously? You really gonna pull that? Do you really regret the date that much?
If that's a first date, second, or whatever number it is, I wouldn't agree to pay for her meals unless we're officially a couple. Even if we're a couple I'd still want to pay for myself only and her to pay for herself, yet I'd like to buy her nice presents if that's what makes her happy. Same for cooking, I'm a grown adult and I cook for myself every day and don't need anybody to babysit me. As for house chores, we split it more or less equally with an option to exchange responsibilities. I just don't want things like that to ruin our relationship, and I want to make sure I do my part to show her much much she means for me, help her and make her happy, and if she'll take me for granted, won't appreciate me or start to ignore my needs then I'll just find a woman who will make me happy. Cheating is for pussies!
No that’s cheap. Even if she suggested let’s go here. I’m the one who agreed. But at the same time I’m not going to take a girl to some fancy restaurant where the food costs $100 per plate. I think girls assume there’s some obligation guys must do for them to show interest, spending money isn’t one. We live in tough times, I have to worry about myself. A girl can turn around after the first date by ghosting/blocking me. Why would I trust a girl unless she’s someone I dated for a while, was in a relationship with and married to.
If you don't have the money to throw around, don't throw it around. Most people are okay with splitting the bill the first few dates, & far after that, anyway.
No, I wouldn't give him his money back, DAYS after. If it was the next day because of a banking issue, sure, but this was after multiple dates.
I always confirm who's paying or if we're splitting the bill. I don't like to assume one way of another.
if i buy the meal for us, i dont even think about it, its just my nature to be nice, if you want to split the bill then just pay for our meal next time,.
or buy coffe and donuts, and go with the flow,
i never say thanks, unless its a stranger, why, beacuse its expected. if your my friend or my wife, i expect things from you, and you expect things from me, its too be expected, something i learned from anime lols
Nothing wrong with that if you ask me.
And if I'm lose interest there isn't a next date.
When i was dating if she can't keep an conversation or get me hooked on the first date thats when I'm done.
Like It ain't worth the time or effort to go for round two.
Can't Impress don't bother.
Other thing I'd usually split the bill the first time sometimes. Just to see how they react!
Try it sometimes you may find it an interesting thing.
As a guy its best to have a notebook for every girl youve paid a meal for and receipts at hand, her contact details and home address. So when summoned to court for a large debt that you can't pay. You can claim that as a 'man' you were brought into society and told that you have to pay for a woman on a date and this ruined your life. Then the court will have to send out 1000s of bailiffs to retrieve the money owed by all these women 😎 as they will not accept liability for what feminists did.
I don't see the point of hair 🪓 or nickel 🤣 and dimbing the 99 cent barrito or double cheeseburger. Side of🍟is on her, though, since years of experience in the fast food industry have taught me that the burger and drink or burrito is always the promotional gateway food to the more expensive, cost prohibitive 🍟.
if he wanted to split the bills, he should have asked before he paid.
Splitting the bill should be decided before the date. Not 3-4 days later.
If I'm the one who took her out and asked her out on a date then yes I am the one who is gonna pay.
If it's the other way around then we can do the bill however she wants.
No, take the loss. Don't be an asshole. You pay for your dates meal because you asked them out, you aren't buying a relationship.
I think everyone should just split the bill in general. If you're only paying for the whole bill just because you're interested, that's a little silly.
In short, I don't think it's wrong but I do think it's silly.
Why is it "silly" ? Definition: " having or showing a lack of common sense or judgment; absurd and foolish." I don't see how paying for a first date is any of that. What WOULD feel silly to me is if I asked you out for coffee and your drink and a pastry came to $8 - $10 and I didn't pay for it along with my drink and pastry! Then, I'd feel absurd, and like cheapskate.
We do.
@loveslongnails girls dont think like this, they have a mindset that 'men' have to pay for them in every aspect of life. Daddy pays for them, then to wean off him they get a boyfriend who pays. They dont have a moral conscience like we do. They are leeches of society who dont like the responsibility that comes with having a salary that pays for their own livelihood. They spend it all on their superficial things and partying, holidays, having fun.
having said the above, not every girl is like that. Some do have a moral conscience and you'll know that because they'll never allow you to pay for them without a fight 😂
Oh yeah, I read that article.
Guy is too attached and didn’t move on.
Lmao i’d hang up/shut the door in their face 😂 I’m so glad im all about splitting the bill anyways because if someone approached days later like that, i’d be tempted to laugh in their face
why dont women pay for the entire bill?
@LegendOfTheHairSniff i only do that if im treating my family OR if the guy or my friends expressed that theyre broke but I really wanna go somewhere
So never because you genuinely want to because the person deserved a treat for being so good to you?
@LegendOfTheHairSniff no because i wanted to go somewhere but didn't wanna go alone. So i “treated” myself by paying for them to join me. Duh
you shouldn't ask someone, it's better if they offer to pay
No. As a guy if i ask a girl out.
il pay for the meal even after we decide that. Their won't be a second date.
i asked her out, She showed up.
the least i could do is pay for the meal.
No that just shows immaturity and bitterness on your part. Take the loss and move on and if you really needed the money that bad then you can’t afford to date and shouldn’t be doing it.
Its a bit dickish to say "Hey Do you mind spilting the bill considering we aren't making this a permant thing", if your man enough to pay on the night dont back out if she isn't interested in pursuing it further.
This think was all over internet few weeks ago, where you been then?
My opinion, you should forget about it once you payed, as your decision is already done, pay or split.
Did she promised him anything before in return, if he pays for it?
Honestly, you're better off just saying you want to "split the bill" right from the beginning of the date. Because if you're gonna ask a question like this, you're just gonna look like a cheap skate.
Nobody forces anyone to pay the entire bill, and I personally wouldn't be on a date with so little respect for another person as to think paying the whole bill was acceptable.
No, but I don't agree with one person paying for the whole thing in the first date anyway, at that point is should either be split 50/50 or each should pay their own way.
When I paid for it, it’s paid for and I won’t ask for anything in turn. If I lose attraction, I’ll just not continue with them.
I suppose you can ask & have her think you're a tool, thereby affirming the lack of chemistry.
I'm hoping this is unanimous, no, of course not 🙄 it's a nice gesture and even if it's a bad break up, you can still treat another human being 🤦
🤣 Do you mean like a refund if you paid? Or are you saying split for future dates? And why would the latter even be an issue if you're not interested anymore?
Absolutely, and keep all receipts, so even if it works out, when you break up in the future, you can charge everything. If it was a 10-20 year old relationship and you get all that cash back suddenly, it's early retirement 😎
I realize its a rhetorical question, but it speaks to the sexism, hypocrisy and entitlement of today's women wo, in then post feminism era, still expect men to both ask them out AND pay for them as if they were escorts.
I am old fashion, I always pay. But if the interest wanes, I am not going to be going out with her, so... yeah, that's it.
Im not sure i would do that. Not unless she offered to pay me back during the date. Even then i never spend money i intend to get back.
Sadly this is the world that feminists have created though. they wanted equality, they got it.
i wouldn't have paid for it in the first place. And if i did, i would ask for the money back. I have never bought any girls drink on a date. Every time i've offered they refused.
That is part of the dating process, that's almost like giving someone a gift and days later asking for it back.
You mean ask for money after the date to pay you back for the date you already paid for? That’s pathetic
That's like asking hey I bought this great tv to watch the superbowl and waiting a month just to get your money back
Of course not! What idiot thinks that's okay?
Also, the response is likely to be a deafening silence anyway. So why humiliate yourself with such an asinine request?
In these hard economic times it's the only sensible way to go.
No it's lame... you come over as very cheap skate. Lol
That's like having sex consensually and then days later saying you changed your mind and claiming you raped them. They agreed to the situation as is. You can retroactively change the agreement.
No, it's not okay. No takebacks. No renigs (or however you spell that.)
If you have no interest in her then why go out with her?
no, she can pay you with her "holes" instead. You pay the full bill as a man
Its ok if you decide that before.
Pfffffft.
Just paypal me Ha Ha ha
Whoever invited the person should pay.
women never offer to pay the bill
I'd say that definitely falls under 'tacky'.
No, just think of it as a cheap lesson.
No it’s not
lol that is amusing but id never ask
Once it's paid the discussion is over.
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