Those men get so much choice that they never settle and just move on from one partner to the next. The women label these as “situationships” which go nowhere. And for all other men, no amount of game will get them anywhere on apps. Some women go on 1 or 2 dates with guys not in the top percentage but don’t feel any excitement and will reject them saying there’s no chemistry. And the cycle continues.
- 26 d
Despite the advantage being attractive looking provides for men in online dating I'd have to say false, I think its all within who you meet, like for instance I'm not a attractive man, if I was I probably would've been able to meet someone in my own town and wouldn't have had to meet someone online. But i got lucky and I did meet my partner online, it started with us talking and as we got to talking more feelings growed more. That's why I feel like no matter how many times it takes its really just feels like luck sometimes. I do admit the luck would be greater for attractive looking men, but everyone sees attractive things differently.
But I do have to be honest about it, it's really rare to find women that think of growing a relationship further than friends if they aren't wanting it or aren't already liking you in that way. Based on how most dating apps are most women get lots of guys wanting to talk with them, so much so that you'd have to really be standing out to her in a way that really sets you apart from the guys she sees all the time on there. The way I usually like to see it though I believe like interests attract like interests a woman who loves godzilla movies is gonna find a guy that also likes godzilla movies much more appealing than some guy that has no interest in such movies yknow. But based on the 12 second interaction some apps are like some usually gonna go for the ones that they do find interesting within those first 12 seconds, mostly within the appearance of the guy and certain aspects of the bio that light up yes in her mind. While the ones they don't quite find that interesting but still would talk with, they may keep them around but talk to them every other blue moon. I used to believe there was some special technique attractive people do or whatever to get women to be more drawn to them, I simply just stop believing any of that now. Because you either connect or you don't and if you don't connect and keep trying to make something come then she'll see that as you trying way too hard. From what I heard though most women like certain uniquely male characteristics that make men. Men. Women looking for men usually aren't attracted to men that look like they are boys. If you get what I mean.
On social videos it shows the typical "if he ain't over 6ft..." as a common interest most women want in the men they go for. I can't really blame them, yknow everyone lives only one life why not go for whatever they want to go for, if you find a woman who puts height as that much importance in the men she chooses then it's really up to you to choose who you want to go for. There are still women out there that do look for more important things in the men they want to be with besides their appearance.00 Reply
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- Anonymous(36-45)27 d
Of course there is a huge disparity of women voting no on this one. The vast majority have no idea of what dating is really like for most guys out there. They keep naively believing that is the same for guys as it is for them.
Anyway I have been on and off dating apps for 10+ years. When I first got on them I was getting matches and dates left and right. I was younger and in my physical good looks prime. Some dated were horrible but others were really good. I got into two long term relationships that started as a match on a dating app. I was physically considered an “8” by most women at that time. H
But then I got in my late 30s and got older. I didn’t lose my all my hair and/or grow a beer gut or anything. But I wasn’t baby faced anymore. I became a “7”. I quickly saw a huge drop off with matches and the ones I did get were lower quality.
Now what I said all above sounds superficial. In fact dating apps have really screwed up a ton of things for both men and women in western society. You can say I need to stay off them and meet women organically. But when I work two jobs and got committed hobbies (which are male dominated) that’s easier said then done. I also don’t live in a area where there are lots of single available women around.
But back to my original point. Looks and first impressions do mean a lot to women. In fairness guys have always been like that. But still when all else is even (looks, money, etc) the woman will always have an advantage over the man. They are always trying to “date up”.
I just wish more women could just acknowledge the truth on this. Just acknowledge they have this societal advantage in dating when all else is equal.
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395 opinions shared on Dating topic. Personally I match with and talk to guys that I find moderately attractive too, not just the top percentage... But if I'm going based off of pictures I do have to find him somewhat attractive at least, there are a few rare exceptions where I really like their bio or something else.
But that's just me, and cause I'm mostly using these apps to talk to new people without necessarily looking for a relationship or anything else (I put that in my bio as well), I just want to chat a little and maybe hang out but in a normal way.
I did meet one guy there who I found attractive but like a normal type attractive that you see anywhere, and he said he did meet some girls off of the app.
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It depends. Some women only care about men's looks, but most don't. I care about men's looks, but not as much as some men believe I do. I focus on many other characteristics (personality, conversation skills, maturity, and much more). Many average-looking men get women online, I've personally seen it happen. So, if online dating doesn't work, you're probably doing something wrong.
01 Reply- 26 d
Literally i always swipe left on guys with no bios or a bad bio. I dont care what they looked like if their bio wasn't up to par. The best conversation i had on a dating app was the guy with the best bio. I really liked him and I met up with him and I've been in contact with him for 2 years. We’re not in a relationship (his choice) but i would be with him in a heart beat if he felt the same for me. Personality REALLY REALLY matters. I don't know why men act like it doesn't.
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- u26 d
Keep telling yourself that story, try your hardest to believe it's true, and stay away from dating apps. Increases the odds for every guy who doesn't believe that nonsense.
00 Reply - 26 d
It worked for me, and I guarantee I'm not in the top 10%.
00 Reply - 27 d
Guys need to stop thinking like this. Woman want what they want on an individual basis.
Yes the criteria is thin but it could also be anything.
A girl might be looking for a dad bod who has a job at Chipotle because if he goes corperate that's going to be a really nice discount.
Another might be looking for her emo counterpart who left that life behind but not really but who else would understand her.
What I'm trying to say is your chances are all about if she feels like you have compatibility.
If you're out looking for a chocolate shake and all you see are snow cones, coffee and rice balls... You see where I'm going with this?
Just put yourself out there and switch up the profile every so often.
15 Reply- 26 d
My understanding of your comment is that while it might be true that most women have strict criterion that they apply to men, there are some women that have different standards that will talk to you. In this case you're trying to find the proverbial needle. Which you believe is worth it. Is that right?
- 26 d
@Ladsin2 yes. There's plenty of fish some like apples, some like fruit loops. Some woman just need a snickers kinda guy. It's all about being what someone is looking for.
Standards is a tricky word because I don't want to insinuate one is better than another... Some people only want to see negativity when they read. - 26 d
- 27 d
True. Wormn only engage with physically attractive men. All they have to do is choose they don't even really have to swipe on men. Meanwhile men have to sit around swiping left and right hoping to get even 1 match and even then hope a conversation comes out of it otherwise they're back to swiping. It's a grueling and most of the time pointless waste of time process for men and I'm sure an overwhelming one for women. But at the end of the day the women are getting what they want and majority of men are left waiting years.
02 Reply- 26 d
Have you looked around wherever you live? When I was your age I got a bit jelly seeing fat ugly/average guys who were my age now and older with a hottie in her early 20s carrying a toddler.
Of course they were rich, but sometimes they weren’t, it was those cases where they must’ve had an interesting story of how they got together or something - 26 d
There's literally nothing to do in my area to meet people. And even if there were all of the women are the type to party and do drugs and shit in not into that. I'm too much of a homebody and would rather stay home with my cat when I'm not at work.
894 opinions shared on Dating topic. Thats not true in my view , since 1998 , the vast majority of women I've been with I met online , going right back to the first sites , like match. com ( where Michael Bury met his first wife by the way ) , I've always done well via apps and sites , agreed there are far more fakes now though ( and some are just for research ) .. thats just wrong on any level , for sure.
00 Reply- 26 d
Nah, while it is much harder for men on dating apps, it's not impossible.. Just having some nice pics, and a good bio could take you a long way.. And, certain apps are better than others.. Like Hinge is probably the best for the average guy to get matches.. That being said... Dating apps do suck..
00 Reply Not sure how to answer the poll. According to research 80% of women only right swipe 20% of men. This indicates that there's a large disparity which you've alluded to in the question. That said it certainly can work out as we're only looking for one partner. I met one of my exes off of tinder and we dated for a few years. I've also have had quite a few dates with women off the other sites none of which turned into long term relationships.
10 Reply- 26 d
False. If you go on dating apps as a man trying to get a gorgeous woman when you don't match her level of attractiveness nor are rich you are going to struggle.
Stay within your level of physical appearance and you will have success more often than not.00 Reply - Anonymous(36-45)24 d
False. It's true that the top percentage of attractive men do better, but it's definitely not the case that everyone else fails. You just have to keep doing something regardless, dude. Use apps, have friends set you up, go to activities, approach girls in cafes. If you want to get your dick sucked--you're going to have to learn to talk to some girls!
00 Reply - Anonymous(45 Plus)26 d
It depends what you mean by "works". Dating apps work for the avg. guy (and the avg. woman) if the guy (and the woman) has realistic expectations. Online dating is not trip through the McDonald's drive through. Neither gender is typically very realistic in their search.
00 Reply 421 opinions shared on Dating topic. Yeah I guess that’s accurate but the reason for that is cuz guys are 99% the ones messaging girls on dating apps. So men are often the ones rejected. So it’s no surprise that attractive people have advantages for everything
00 Reply- 27 d
Generally there is a bias but you said only. Women can get fucked by anyone anytime so they may as well have high standards.
Men will shot their shot and eventually work their way down to the tier they get the most responses from.00 Reply - 27 d
They don’t really work, tbh. It is a HUGE hit or miss.
17 Reply- Asker27 d
Why don’t they work?
- 27 d
The hook up culture too over.
Unless if it is like a Christian dating site, but I feel like it a bit the same there. It is either the guy wants to hook up or he wants to wife you immediately. - 27 d
Took*
- Asker27 d
But that’s what I mean. Theories say that hookup culture exists in the men being chosen by the women (I. e. the top percentage of most attractive men).
- 27 d
Why is it bad that the top percentage of men are successful? Seems logical that a girl wants a good guy
- 27 d
What makes attractive men automatically successful?
- 27 d
I didn’t mention if the guy was attractive. I said he’s top percentage
- 27 d
They never worked for me. Well, they would have if I were into behemoths or women with five or more baby daddies.
01 Reply Why just men? Women too. Im a woman and I did horrible on the apps. I just gave up.
00 Reply- 26 d
I strongly recommend that men stop using dating apps altogether and become part of the solution. I can elaborate on this endlessly.
10 Reply 12.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. 100% false. Dating apps rarely work for ANYONE.
00 Reply- 23 d
I've never once met any girl off of any dating ot hook up app. I just think they are fake. I stopped even going on them now.
00 Reply - 20 d
I try a few different apps and while I got some matches I wouldn't say it was a success. As an average looking guy on Tinder I found it hard to find an average looking women.
00 Reply - Anonymous(25-29)27 d
Almost none of the men you're describing need dating apps. Therefore, no.
10 Reply - 26 d
To a degree True - same goes for True for the hottest women get the chocolates 💟😋
00 Reply - Anonymous(25-29)25 d
False, I’ve had pretty good luck using them and I’m not all that attractive, just have to take good pictures and have a decent bio.
00 Reply - Anonymous(25-29)27 d
absolutely true. the experiences of thousands of men on those apps is proof
00 Reply - 26 d
Studies show that's true. Women only find a small percentage of men attractive.
00 Reply - 26 d
All the studies point to that being the case
00 Reply - 26 d
Do women not select the best option available?
00 Reply - 27 d
Attractive, wealthy young white men, that is.
00 Reply - 24 d
waste of time even for slightly good looking men
00 Reply - Anonymous(18-24)27 d
I’ll bang ugly men, just as long as they will leave their house to meet me
11 Reply 344 opinions shared on Dating topic. False or I wouldn't be able to get dates lol
112 Reply- Asker27 d
How do you mean?
- 27 d
Im not hot thats what I mean. Been told even by exes that I am a "second look" kinda guy, ouch haha. However I been told I look friendly and approachble and girls feel save around me aswell. I try to reflect that approachable/friendliness on my dating app pics.
I go on a date every 1-2 weeks. Always have around 5 matches as I try not to go higher than that to be able to pay everyone attention. - 26 d
- 26 d
@morganherrel yep but the question was can only top % of men have success on apps not that the lowest % of men doesn't compared to women
- 26 d
- 26 d
@morganherrel I find this always so random and taken out of air. Like you have some people claiming only 8% have success then its only the top 2% and now you mention 20%. I would take the claims that were taken from incel communities always with a grain of salt.
Espacially since I saw how many male profiles look like. Guys dont care about pics and will upload whatever but forgett that they are not in the position to do so and that girls take much better and are used to better pictures than men.
If you want to have success on the apps you have to know a bit what a women would like to see and not what you are satisfied with. - 26 d
@Nirmroth to be fair, I am getting matches and dates from these apps because I am above average and created a very thoughtful profile; I was just speaking for other men based on the objective data and simulation studies that have been gathered/performed on this issue; the median man can expect only a few likes per month and maybe 1-2 matches at most
Also, the women I am finding are still low quality—almost everyone is overweight or slightly pudgy (among other factors I won't mention) - 26 d
@morganherrel thats were we think different, in my opinion the median man simply has a shitty profile. Ofc you can't expect to get daily matches when there's a huge different amount of members on those apps.
I say all that bec I got around ~10 likes a week when I started and after I took a break for a year just doing research and taking good pictures it is now around 3-5 likes a day living in a medium city (~270k pop) on tinder only. I look probably better on my pics than I do irl (without catfishing or using AI) bec of scenery and lighting etc.
About the "quality" of likes I get (I have tinder gold) its fine, no overweight girls mostly normal ones that I can even allow myself to be picky and go for those only that I find really attractive. But ofc location matters, if you're from US you're much more likely to find overweight people than in Europe for example. - 26 d
oops I thought you were a girl; congrats on that success; also yes, maybe the median man is just shitty lol I'd have to make a fake girl account to test that for sure
OMG YES LOCATION MATTERS; if I lived with my friends in Europe, I could find a slim and attractive girl; but where I live in U. S., that is basically impossible lol - 26 d
You dont even have to, just look over the shoulder of female friends or sisters. While there's increasingly more high quality male profiles over the past years its still a very high advantage to care about what pics you get and get feedback from women you can trust that are honest to you aswell.
Ye I talk to a some guys about this topic worldwide from time to time and this issues with only getting fat girls and strangely bots too as average or slighty above average guy comes mainly from US citizens.
- Anonymous(30-35)27 d
Why would attractive guys be on dating apps?
03 Reply- 26 d
Because for many of them, the fun is all about how many new girls they can bang. And it's much easier to get casual sex and then disappear with a girl you meet on a dating app than with a girl from work or a girl who knows all your friends.
Attractive guys rarely have any long-term plans with any girl - instead, it's all about how many they can get and how easy they can get rid of them when they are finished.
This makes Tinder a great place for them, as they are the big winners.
More average men are completely ignored on dating apps. - Opinion Owner26 d
@MrOracle Plenty of attractive men are in happy loving relationships
- 19 d
Population density. I have lived in a place with 1 person per square mile, its only like that because of small towns 25 miles apart with 75 people and literally just a few towns with around 3k in 100 mile+ radius
3.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. Of course. Try it and see for yourself 🤪
00 Reply2.4K opinions shared on Dating topic. Obviously false.
10 Reply2.5K opinions shared on Dating topic. YEAH BASICALLY
00 Reply- 26 d
Internet is gold diggers paradise
01 Reply- 24 d
Those guys on photos are NOT attractive at all. They are so ugly
- 27 d
False
22 Reply- Asker27 d
Why?
- 27 d
Because the apps are working as intended
Yes true
00 Reply- 27 d
100% true
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