Does the "all women are beautiful" deception do more good or harm?

[Anonymous]

[V_Injector]

I think harm. It's nothing more than another version of demanding us dudes to accept shitty food. Slut shaming, fat acceptance, trans women are women, and I could go on.

As the men slowly check out and simply take the option not to participate or go passport bro in this clown show... society as a whole starts to freak out. The bulk of the women are not going to go lesbian and just start licking each other's pussies like the lesbians want them to. The bulk of the men are not going to just accept this trash and fall in line.

I'm just saying something is going to give sooner or later. This idea of jacking up the standards for one gender while we lower them for the other is not going to work long term.

It's already not working... look at the statistics.

[V_Injector]

I made the vegan pay for it by the way. If you date me, you fucking pay for the meals.

Drizzle drizzle.

[Abu_Kaboom]

Actually the saying that "all women are beautiful" is true in my country. Who needs paper bags on top of burqas?

A bigger issue than the purported born-with fugliness is the retardedness.

They don't need fucking hair dye, piercings and drag eyes, that's the opposite of a paper bag, those things are like a bag made out of raw HIV infected indian cow's intestines. Often worn by women who would have been hot otherwise.

Most women, if need any at all, need only light makeup, so light you could categorize it with hygiene. And the opaque paperbag-like makeup should only be there for very rare unfortunate hags to be just fuckable enough, but even then will struggle to get commitment, nobody needs ugly children.

Just like most men could be reasonably jacked if they did the necessary things, modern women ruin their potential by acting retarded and doing retarded things to their bodies.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Abu_Kaboom I fucking love you, dude. 😂

[Abu_Kaboom]

@Jamie05rhs I assume it is obvious that I'm not an actual towelhead who has hidden explosives inside his wives' burqas.

[V_Injector]

@Abu_Kaboom The best part about burqas is women cannot display themselves off publicly for other options, that lead to situations, that will just lead them into other situations that they should be stoned for.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Abu_Kaboom Yeah, but it's still hilarious.

[Jamie05rhs]

@V_Injector Technically that's a valid point.

[ohsheeT]

Well are you just talking about the outside of a person because when I say people are beautiful I'm saying they're beautiful on the inside and it reflects to the outside and some people are just beautiful on the outside and not so beautiful on the inside so I'm not really for sure all I know is there's a bunch of beautiful people in this world whether it's on the inside or on the outside

And you were one of those beautiful people that is on the inside and the outside

[RageBabe]

It goes without saying that one's definition of beauty is subjective. Constantly pressuring a child to be this or that, in my opinion, is what causes harm. It encourages shallowness. I don't think enough emphasis is placed on having a lovely personality. You could have the prettiest or handsomest face in the world… but it wouldn’t matter to me if you didn’t have the attitude to match.

[Anonymous]

It does a lot of good. It’s also true from a subjective standpoint. Even from an objective standpoint, very few people are truly ugly and most can be made to look beautiful with the right clothes and attitude.

[AviatorTom]

All women are not beautiful, nor are all men handsome. Add a touch of reality please.

[OlderAndWiser]

I've never heard anyone say that and I have never entertained that thought. Yes, telling morbidly obese girls that they are drop dead gorgeous is a disincentive for them to lose some weight.

[ManOnFire]

Way more harm than good.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

From the comments here, it's clear enough that the words "all women are beautiful" can't be universally understood as is.

But then an expression is never really a single and isolated statement, it's the momentary visible part of a vast landscape of words and ideas in the background

[UnusualWeirdo]

All people are beautiful in some way not just women, so does that harm people saying that, only if you think not all people are beautiful, if you think some people are ugly then there it is. People can be ugly inside or outside like they can be beautiful inside or out.

[abc3643]

Look. Learn this lesson about human nature because it is one of the most important lessons of your life:

Everyone needs to feel valued; that they matter in some way to the human experience.

So, what do you think? Does it matter whether "all women are beautiful" is a deception or not. Is it even a deception? What harm is there in saying that even if it is not true?

Learn what I wrote because it may just save your ass and prevent a lot of drama.

[abc3643]

I was never one to go to church much, but, one time, I think in the 1980s or early 1990s, I remember the priest giving this lesson:

"Never lie, but you don't always have to tell the truth."

He gave an example.

=====

The priest was going to perform the marriage ceremony of a woman who was at some point a parishioner in a church he was serving.

The woman was not attractive.

He went to see her before the ceremony and she was in her wedding gown getting prepared. She asked the priest "Father, don't I look beautiful?"

The real answer was "No", but he wasn't going to tell her that. Yet, he wasn't going to lie because that is a violation of one of the Ten Commandments.

So, what was he to do? Say the truth: "No, you are not beautiful." on her wedding day? No, of course not.

But lying was out.

So, he needed to say something that did not exactly tell her the truth but that was not a lie.

He said this to her: "You look the best you've ever been."

She DID the look the best she ever did, but she was not beautiful.

She was happy with the priest's reply, of course...

... And the priest did not lie, but he didn't tell the truth - he didn't have to.

=====

This is an example of a very valuable lesson in life: the art of diplomacy and recognizing the value other's need to feel of value about themselves in our world.

[RavVid]

More harm I think. In partner dancing I find dress size 10 or 12 women dangerous. They have this image of themselves as still being slender but they aren't. A dress size 10 girl wrecked my back. I should have just dropped her.

Below size 10 they are slender and above size 12 they are more realistic. "All women are beautiful" with the corollary that "all women are slender" is decidedly harmful.

[Joshydavid25]

Definitely harmful, because it's superficial in nature.. Instead of telling a woman the truth and let her decide how she'll live with it, and learn to either look better or highlight attributes that'll make. her more attractive, it's just lying to make her feel a false sense of confidence.

[ChicoFromThe305]

It does more harm when it reaches health risks, a big issue tho is people failing to take other people's advice, you can tell someone they gotta work on themselves and they will get insulted so I guess maybe this was just used more as a coping technique

[Unit1]

Impulsively it makes me think, that once they believe it, they'll only see and go after the top 10% of men.

[Unit1]

There's also the other somewhat truthful and genuine side. Women are pretty by standard. Men are anything but.
It's not just my own opinion but Andrew Tate's too. He has the status and money and powers to get pretty much any girl he wants and he himself says, that every woman he see's is pretty.

[Lightning8]

Hmm. It might do a little bit more good. Self esteem is important for self improvement. Almost like the saying "it takes respect to get respect", but from yourself. The harm comes more from predatory or unscrupulous companies that sell unhealthy products and ideas for profit. Like unhealthy food companies.

[Lightning8]

Is it a lie? Yeah probably. Does it inspire people to workout? Yeah maybe for some people. Even Lizzo lost weight

[Lightning8]

On the other hand, it's important to not spread lies

[Lightning8]

So it could do more harm based on it being important to not spread lies

[MicahRaine]

It's harmful.

It's obviously not true, and just makes it harder for truly beautiful women to understand they really are beautiful and not just being told they are.

[Anonymous]

yes because it prioritizes feelings over truth

not everyone is beautiful, whether men or women and not everyone will end up with a beautiful partner or even a partner at all

it's better to be realistic than fall under delusion

[Berethor]

There is a lot of ugly women it a fact, but it's true that women are more beautiful gender.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/fair-sex

[Anonymous]

I don't understand why everyone needs to think they're beautiful. That's pure vanity and that kind of ego does nothing good for a person. I'm not beautiful and Idgaf. No one should gaf.

[Miristheiss]

No. I think it makes many delusion and entitled. Social media and dating apps balloons their egos too. Many conflate, lots of horny dudes or simp dudes blowing up my DMs means I'm "special" and above average.

[NathanDavis]

what is harming... is to give beauty that kind of importance and priority over things that are more substantial, and lot less superficial... especially when our mindsets are already vulnerable

[Nikki1989]

It sets unrealistic beauty standards that can lead to feelings of inadequacy and self-doubt in women who don't conform to the ideals that have mostly been invented by men.

[Jamie05rhs]

It does more harm. Because it makes ugly chicks think they're pretty. And then they get heartbroken when they realize that they can't get a boyfriend. It's setting them up for failure. And I think that's cruel.

[LiamJHayden]

When it promotes patently unhealthy lifestyles, yes.

When it promotes positivity over inherited traits, no.

[Anonymous]

Definitely causes harm, it encourages out of shape women to not change themselves and try to be healthier.

[Juxtapose]

It's harmful. The fat bearded bitch in Walmart is not beautiful, don't lie to her.

[ClassicDropout]

Harm. A lot of y'all don't look good and still think you deserve more BECAUSE of yalls looks 😭

[ProbablyClueless]

I think it's overall a good in the world. Any damage it does pales in comparison to the damage done by the belief that all feelings are valid.

[boggboss]

Harm set up unrealistic expectations of the world that soon get shattered

[Guanfei]

Harm. Because it's objectively not true. The same way most women find me ugly, which makes it an objective reality, there are ugly girls, and telling them otherwise lead them to disappointment.

[Fireguy17]

Yeppers.
Not everyone is beautiful on the inside.

[Anonymous]

Quite clearly more harm. It demotivates women to seek improvement.

[SolitarySolace]

More harm than good. It makes women think they’re better than others

[Ironco]

They all have pretty parts, you just have to find it. Some take longer than others.

[Asker]

Or forever

[nawtee_me]

I don’t believe that there is anyone out there that is ugly to everyone else in the world.

[Anonymous]

I can't see how that deception can do any good. Deceptions are bad by nature.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

It's totally bs. Just lying to folks.

[Ironic_Method]

Toxic positivity is not a good thing.

[Asker]

Good phrase

Whay are the harms of it?

[Ironic_Method]

Entitlement, a temporary increased self esteem which gets destroyed when it's tested, feelings of inadequacy, isolation, and distrust.

[Starrrboy]

More harm than good..

[Kelly6]

@marish01 More harm

[beefcakebradybatson]

Not really, but it's a false narrative.

[Jmmmfi4]

LOL... WHO EVEN SAYS THAT?

[jahaims]

It's mental

[Slim57]

Yes definitely

[MasterKS]

its good!