Why is it a bad idea for men to take relationship advice from women?

[Vegasrunner]

[Finchie40]

Because most women want things their way and don’t consider a guys’ feelings the same , it’s best for a guy not to take advice from a women because she doesn’t know what goes through a guys’ mind period , she can assume she knows , but she doesn’t know , Just like us guys’ don’t know what goes through a girls’ mind , us trying to figure out her mind is like reading a book that never ends lol our brains out wired differently , they have done studies on this shit , to find out we don’t think alike whatsoever A females’ brain races with a 1000 things at once , while us guys’ don’t even come close to that whatsoever lol

[LiamJHayden]

It can often be because a lot of the advice will revolve around the types of sacrifices men should make. Those sacrifices are generally tangible and measurable. In return he will usually be promised things that are intangible and not easily quatifiable.

[4ngelic]

it's not a bad idea. I don't know why some of the redpill dudes think it's a bad idea to ask women directly

[Vegasrunner]

@4ngelic Provide one piece of advise that would help a man attract multiple women.

[Uglyass]

I got one,

"Don't take relationship advice from women" !!!

Your welcome 😎👍

[4ngelic]

taking good care of your appearance & hygiene. very basic, but probs the most effective thing you to make yourself more interesting to girls

[Vegasrunner]

@4ngelic Another example of why men shouldn't take relationship advice from women.

[4ngelic]

why?

[Vegasrunner]

@4ngelic There's numerous reasons why several have been articulated I'm these threads, go check some out and get back to me.

[Uglyass]

What he's saying is "everyone knows that"...

Everyone knows you need to take a shower, smell good, and be interesting...

You technically didn't say anything...

That's surface level. Women themselves don't know anything outside surface level knowledge to even get themselves...

[midnightmoon05]

Because he should be taking responsibility to discuss with the girlfriend. Not run to other women.

[Vegasrunner]

@midnightmoon05 TY this is a great example of why men should never take relationship advice from women.

[Zack-Bann]

If you’re trying to get better at a given sport: you can ask the biggest fan of that sport for tips and he will tell you a million things he loves about the athletes and what you should aim to be
But ask an athlete and he will tell you what hides behind this facade of success, he’ll let you in on the formula that the fans don’t see


Dating is the same way:
You ask a woman and she’ll describe the qualities of men she’s attracted to.
But that info on its own isn’t useful.


Ask a man who’s got it figured out and who can consistently get women and he’ll what he does in order to create that image in women’s minds. And that is useful info.


But this shouldn’t be taken to the extreme either: advice from a woman is still better than no advice at all.
Even if you don’t end up doing what she tells you to do but get inspired from it to do your own thing

[blueonblack22]

Because women have two modes of thought when they consider what they want in relationships: conscious and subconscious. And their subconscious is much stronger then their conscious and more often then not it determines what men women will accept vs reject.

A lot of women consciously want to believe they (often bad) dating advice they give to men. Really how often do women tell men to be more of a challenge (not being overly available, not showing their emotions) to women in dating? Some do but most don’t. And the ones that do are more keenly aware of how a woman’s subconscious operates. They are willing to face the ugly truth about things.

Anyway not all women subconsciously desire to be ignored, abused, etc. But they do crave challenge given they usually have more options then men (when all else is equal). It’s not fair at all in the modern era but men have to accept that dynamic.

[MisterWack]

Why isn’t it a good idea for men to take relationship advice from women?

The fact is that women are the targeted demographic for heterosexual men to have a relationship with so, who to understand their needs & desires in romance than women themselves? Women want honesty, respect, responsibility, a down to Earth person, success, kindness, loyalty, transparency, good communication, and a shoulder to cry on / protector just as they would if it were flipped. They don’t care about “weakness” or how many fancy cars you have, they love you for you so be yourself if a gentleman you are.

[MisterWack]

*Cuddles, compliments, kisses, intimacy, and showing her that you love her through the little things are all good too!

[Mangospacho]

It’s not necessarily a bad idea to get relationship advice from women. If she’s giving you good and honest advice then it’s a good thing. If she just wants to spare your feelings and tell you what you want to hear and treats you like one of her girlfriends then it’s a problem.

[Miristheiss]

Women often give bad advice, friend zone advice and many do not realize what they truly respond to vs. who they think they should like.

Do not ask a fish how to catch a fish... ask a fisherman.

[Unit1]

My misogynistic self would say "Unless you want to stay single"

The other side of myself would say "Not always"

See, women, who pretend to be men on dating sites are very few and far between to understand even just a fraction of the perspectives of relationships in men's minds and bodies and experiences.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/DUXslDzeYGg

[Wolfcat43]

Because on average most women do not understand guys on a deeper level.

[IslaTheWitch]

because they wouldn't listen anyway, so why put women's hopes high?

[Vegasrunner]

@IslaTheWitch Smart, because listening to female advice, wouldn't benifit men.

[IslaTheWitch]

it's your opinion, fortunately a lot of men see their women as partners or friends not devils :D

[Vegasrunner]

@isla most men aren't capable of having multiple women so their opinion doesn't matter.

[msmissydc]

If woman are not involved in a realationship between two men than why would she give advise? doesn't make sense if no woman is involved to get opinion from a woman. 🤗

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc These are about heterosexual relationships. Read quest over and please think b4 responding.

[msmissydc]

You literally never said that. You asked about relationship advice from women. It never in your sentence even talked about hetero relationships. I just assumed because you talked about not asking women, so it only makes sense, that you mean the type where a woman isn't involved. It would be stupid to not ask woman for advice when men try to deal with women.

[msmissydc]

So yes I did think thats why I came to the conclusion in the first place.

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc That's an odd assumption, however hopefully you learned from your mistake.

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc All good people make mistakes all the time.

[msmissydc]

Explain why it's an odd assumption. You ask the question like no women is invoved in the relationship. So why is it not the logical assumption?

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc Well for starters you're the only one that interpreted the question like that. This tells me you're probably lacking critical thinking skills. Also if you believe that "relationships" are predominantly Homosexual, then you are holding on to a false delusion. Hope this helps.

[msmissydc]

I never said that homosexuals are the majority. Its funny how defensive you get about it. 🫢

[msmissydc]

You still haven't explained why it is an odd assumption. My logis is clear: If you would ask about a relationship between 1man and 1 women it doesn't make sense to not involve women. So because you dont want to involve women, I assumed women are not involved.

[msmissydc]

If I have a problem involving potentially two sides but could only involve one side. You are asking why I should not ask an expert for one of the two sides? My assumption was, it's not a two sided problem to begin with.

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc If you don't belive homosecuals are the majority, how did you come to the conclusion that the original post was not about heterosexual relationships?

[msmissydc]

I literally explained that to you before. You asked to not involve women for advice. So I thought why not ask women when they are 1/2 of the relationship. So you must be asking about the type of relationship that doesn't involve women, which left me with a gay relationship.

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc I think I understand your confusion. You made a multiple incorrect assumptions, ironically this is an excellent example of why you men shouldn't take relationship advice from women. TY for sharing this.

[msmissydc]

Multiple? I see one and if you dont realise I am trolling you, you must be stupid.

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc That's another incorrect assumptions. Women would be considered novice in relationships as, they only understand one side whereas in order to attract a womem men must both themselves and what women are attracted to in general. Unfortunately as you have proven most women are unable to articulate anything more than what they specifically want, which is why you struggled w/ the original post.

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc OH so you're saying you read the post wrong? Please highlight the sentence in the post that says not to involve women. Have you considered the fact, that your need to make assumptions is what's causing your confusion?

[msmissydc]

Your account screams "I dont understand women in the slightest". So don't tell me women dont understand men. We understand men and women 10 times over the average men. Men try to talk about what other men want all the time and when proven wrong they try to make it the other guy's problem. Most men like you, have no concept of what women want. But I give you one point, not every woman is the same so not every woman can speak for every woman, but thinking men can do that is absurdly hillariously wrong.

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc Yes Multiple
- You assumed the post was about Homosexual relationships
- you made the assumption that I asked about relationship advice from women
- you're making the assumption that women can provide usefull relationship advice for men.
- You're making the assumption that I don't believe women are in relationships.
- You're making the assumption that the metric of intelligence is based on how you feel.
There's a lot of assumptions. It's even stranger that instead of simply admitting you assumptions after being educated by the author of the post you attempt to justify this w/ more assumptions. How would this strategy of incorrect assumptions based on emotional flaws help men?

[msmissydc]

You missed the point where I told you I made that confusion up. To answer your question: Your leading question (and account) made me assume you agree with the statement of your question. That means you should not ask women for advice or in other words not involve women.
The only assumptions I have actually made was that you are homophobic. Thats why I tried my approach.
Your account is the most typical incel podcast account I have ever seen in written form, so I don't think it's far fetched.

[msmissydc]

- You assumed the post was about Homosexual relationships
No, again I Trolled you based on The Fact I Assumed you are homophoic and that you have a fragile masculinity. Apparently I did struck a nerve. So I was probably correct in That Assumption.

- you made the assumption that I asked about relationship advice from women
Thats literally what the question is about🤣🤣🤣
- you're making the assumption that women can provide usefull relationship advice for men.
Which is not a wrong assumption!. But yes I do make that assumption.

- You're making the assumption that I don't believe women are in relationships.
I never Said that. I talked about your relationship. I assume in YOUR relationship no women is present.

- You're making the assumption that the metric of intelligence is based on how you feel.
No, I never said that.

You alone with these assumptions, about my assumptions made more errors than I did in total. 🤣🤣🤣

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc That's simply another assumption made by you. Given your history, it makes sense you feel this way, however it doesn't have any relevance to the original post because as you said you made false assumptions.

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc Again those are all assumptions, and unfortunately I can't speak for something that isn't true. While I understand how sensitive this topic may be to you. Randomly creating a narrative based on your feelings and inaccurate assumptions only validates why it's a poor idea to take relationship advice from women. Essentially you're saying "I don't like what I'm hearing so I'm going to invent something based on what I wanted to hear, and then pretend it's the truth"

[msmissydc]

Nothing about this was an assumption. I corrected your wrong assumptions. You assume everything here and nothing of that is true. Sensitive topic? For you?
🤣🤣🤣
Your last quote fits you. Yes that's what I am thinking about you. I mean you do. Its again not an assumption, take a look at your account, That should be prove enough.

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc So in addition to being wrong you're dishonest? How does this help your point?
Do you know the definition of literal?
Provide one tangible useful advice for men to increase the number of women they can sleep with?
I currently have 3.5 women in my rotation and have slept w/ approximately 420 women, in addition I was a VIP Host on the Vegas strip for over a decade, my ony job was to get as many hot women into nightclubs, during that time I interacted w/ 10's of thousands of women. Very few people live know them like I do. Which is why I'm provide a post that will touch your emotion.
- Do you know what metric means?

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc If I understand your position you're attempting to tell the author what he's writing about and your rationale is because of how you feel?

[msmissydc]

My feeling where never involved in this, except a feeling of "fun".
Metric in this context is to describe something measurable or how to measure. You wrongly assuming things of how I feel is funny and to think I measure inteligence in feelings... hahahahah.
Again you assumed that. (wow are you assuming a lot here do you even see that?).

Than explain what your question is about. Please enlighten me because its apperantly not about "the thematic of relationship advice from women", even though the question is even specifically talking about that.

Sleeping with is not relationship advice. These are two different things.

Do I belive one word you are saying? No, I believe you are a lonly incel creep that listens too much to other incel podcasts and things he knows women from men who pay women to look good infront of incels. One of those " I sell wrong advice to people who dont know better". Its fun toying with you though. In this case you maybe would be a boytoy. Thats what you want to be, just in a different context.

Oh this is fun with you.

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc Your feelings are not involved except a feeling? I can only take you at your word and the fact that your metric for intelligence as you said is based on how you feel
So you're now admitting you don't understand the question? Better laye than never I guess. Please articulate your specific confusion an I will attempt to educate you.
What you choose to "believe" has no bearing on this conversation. Hope that helps.

[msmissydc]

Repeating false things doesn't make them true you know that right? So your beliefs dictate this conversation, Got it.🤣🤣

[msmissydc]

I just looked at other comments on your posts. You lack basic understanding skills on multiple occasions. That explains your problem. You even missunderstood a single word.🤣🤣
Knowing that, everything here makes sense. Don't be scared most people learn listening and reading early in life, Some are late bloomers, it's not a big problem.

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc OK, now you're learning so you understand that just because you assumed something doesn't mean it's accurate. Glad I could educate you.

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc I would argue that it's a big problem and is one of the main reasons female advice is useless.

[msmissydc]

Ok, I understood. You are too stupid to understand women therefore you think it's stupid to ask them. Got it.

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc If I didn't "understand" women there's no way I would be able to have sex with as many as I have, or keep the roster I currently have. I don't think women are "stupid" you may be, but most women simply aren't knowledgeable about what it takes to get a women as a man.

[msmissydc]

I have had enough entertainment. If you just repeat your mantra in wishfull thinking it may become true good luck with that but its no input, worth listening to. If you have anything substantial to say feel free to answer but so far that part is heavily lacking.

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc As I've stated please feel how you feel. You've provided plenty data and teaching points that can be used to educate more men on female nature. TY for being you.

[msmissydc]

I dont think me toying with you is the best kind of data to show to your "audience". But sure go ahead, the people you would listen to you probably even believe you. Can I also use your "data" when i need more excamples of incels and redpill quotes?

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc That only validates my position that women dont understand relationships. Men are more logical than women so simple review of the interaction will easily highlight the incongruency in your approach.

[msmissydc]

Women are half of all hetero relationships. Saying we don't understand those is just insane. Nothing you said so far made any sense. You speak of validation and things I meant but so far you have only proven women are an enigma for you. That's my takeaway so far. Bye!

[Vegasrunner]

@msmissydc Ironically the fact that you believe this to be "insane" is just further proof women don't understand relationships. I think the most fascinating part is that this all stems from an incorrect assumption u made on a post where I'm the author.

[ProbablyClueless]

It isn't. You just read the room... Don't be socially retarded.

[JesseP1nk]

Do fisherman take advice from fish? - exactly

[I_am_a_human]

I didn't know some fish like to be caught by fisherman.

[Garud]

women think that other women will treat men in the same way that other women treats her

[Garud]

*women think that other women will treat men in the same way that other women and men treats her

[Garud]

if a woman is experienced and mature enough in understanding men conditions then she might give good advice

[Hannajenky]

My brother says he’s never listen to a woman for dating advice lol

[Vegasrunner]

@Hannajenky Smart guy

[TheBootyChest]

I don't think it is. It's better to go to the source than someone who has no idea how women work.

[kiktimbu]

No. its always good to get the other perspective. Taking advice doesn't mean you have to follow everything. It can be a useful input

[Vegasrunner]

@kiktimbu Excellent point.

[blackeagle007]

I don’t think it’s a gender thing. Just depends on the person. Advice varies from everyone. As a guy my advice could be different from another guys advice.

[Anonymous]

Because most women haven't successfully attracted and had sex with women. What they TELL you attracts them and other women and what they ACTUALLY respond to, are very often two different things.

[Adel50]

To some extent, I wouldn't say it's a bad idea. You get to learn what women are expecting in a relationship.

[Juxtapose]

Because women don't know what it takes to be a guy. Just look at the female to male transitioners and how hard it is for them.

[RedInnocent69]

It’s not. Girls do think differently, but it’s important to know what you’re up against

[Vegasrunner]

@RedInnocent69 And you believe asking women does that?

[RedInnocent69]

Well, if you want advice about them, and you’re not one or don’t know them well, it certainly doesn’t hurt

[Vegasrunner]

@RedInnocent69 Actually could hurt a lot, because women have a tendency to give destructive advice.

[RedInnocent69]

That hasn’t been my experience. Like what?

[CuriousMufuxka]

Because they are as horrible as men when it comes to almost any advice.

[Vegasrunner]

@CuriousMufuxka There's plenty of HV men that provide good advice.

[grega239]

Because a woman tells you what works for her.

Ask a fisherman not the fish

[KrakenAttackin]

Because women have very little understanding of how simple and basic most men are.

[red324]

Must be why they complicate the hell out of everything

[Chthou95]

Because women far too often give politically correct & generic advice that doesn't help a lot of men

[Crazzyyworld]

Because bad boys spoil each and one of them to think that world is full of $ ATM

[MemeSupreme]

feel like every situation and person is different

[Slim57]

Because they can't offer good advice to men

[seeyounexttuesday]

Do you take fishing advice from the fish?

[CarolinaGirl5]

Who said it was bad?

[Vegasrunner]

@carolinagirl5 Every man that has success w_ women.

[CarolinaGirl5]

A woman knows another woman. So no it's not bad to get advice from a woman

[CarolinaGirl5]

Just depends who the woman Is giving advice becareful

[Tarifa]

Please define 'success'. Do you mean dating a lot of women and going from one date to the next, never getting into any long lasting relationship? Fine if that what you're after. I don't think you need any advice on that. Just follow your instinct.

If it means investing in a relationship, getting past the first dates and truly trying to understand the other sex, then I think a woman's advice is invaluable.

[CarolinaGirl5]

@Tarifa why would that equal success? That doesn't even make sense

[Vegasrunner]

@Tarifa The male metric for success is the number of women he can have sex with.

[Vegasrunner]

@carolinagirl5 Women know themselves, not how to be successful getting women as a man, huge difference.

[CarolinaGirl5]

@Vegasrunner women know how to help dudes like you who can't get a wife to obtain one. You can listen to guy friends all you want but where has that gotten you?

[Vegasrunner]

@carolinagirl5 Think you've identified your flaw. As a man my job is to bang as many women as possible, as a woman your job is to try to lock down the best guy you can get. I've been w/ over 400 women so I'm the one who provides the advice to men, because most men aspire to reach the metrics I've obtained.

[CarolinaGirl5]

@Vegasrunner you can't even get a woman 🤣. Nice try but no woman is sleeping with some broke ugly dude . So you're out of luck kid. Its am get to work haha.

[CarolinaGirl5]

@Vegasrunner and you're 46? Dude give it up. Unless you're bezos, elon musk, Steve Jobs or Bill gates status at your age which you're not then you're cooked. Lol

[Vegasrunner]

@carolinagirl5 TY for sharing this! It's interesting to not that your comments highlight what women fell are metrics. You've never met me, never seen my face, and I've openly articulated to you my background including the number of sexual partners I've had. However because of your emotions have prohibited you from thinking rational, you respond w/ perceived insults based on what hurts you. This is another excellent example of why men shouldn't take relationship advice from women. TY for this.

[Vegasrunner]

@carolinagirl5 That is an odd statement on many levels please elaborate?