Is friendship with men really worth it? Knowing they'll always have to repress their attraction to them the whole time, are any of the benefits of men's friendship (like the ability to gain knowledge, or help during hardship) worth the pain and heartache?
You should avoid men who are hurting your self-esteem, but why should you avoid men who aren't? Men are nott programmed by nature to judge women harshly based on just outer looks unless a woman looks extremely ugly.
Whether you stop dating or not is your choice. There are many kinds of people in the world, just keep the good ones in mind, or else you'll go crazy.
Are friendships with men really worthwhile? For me, unserious friendships with very few women mean giving them something extra in exchange for just talking to them. What I would gain is that I'm not going to be completely isolated from the world of women. Obviously, girls only talked to me when they wanted something from me
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1.8K opinions shared on Dating topic. You should never make any decisions that applies to all men or all women.
that’s the big mistake that lead people down extremist paths
If the men in your life are bad for you seek to meet other, better men.
Don’t forsake the entire species on account of the few bad apples you had the misfortune of associating with10 Reply
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2.9K opinions shared on Dating topic. I say be your true self don't ever let any man make you feel that you're not worth it
You have to understand something just because a man says something about a woman doesn't mean that he's right
And he probably can't get a date anyway
And after he says that you'll probably never see him again anyway so don't listen to anybody ever put you down
Tell him to go take a good look at himself and then just keep on walking00 Reply16.5K opinions shared on Dating topic. Why should they give up? They could still be very interesting and therefore attractive to guys.
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12 moWhat's ugly to one is beautiful to another.
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u 11 moAre you wanting people to agree with you?
00 Reply Not at all, because those men just see women as objects… I do think that men (in general) are overgrown toddlers who have never matured and think the world evolves around them in a very narcissistic way… I get told as a curvier woman that I’m fat and that my boobs and bum are too big… I’ve been skinny as well, and been told “oh she’s too flat chested, I can’t date her!” So either way, men will find something to not pick. This is why I’m focusing on my career and not on men, I come here to vent about them sometimes but I don’t reach out to them because I know that’s bad for me. I just focus on improving myself and if a decent man comes along, then that’s great, if not, that’s fine because I have friends and family who are decent. I’ve realised that people who go round insulting people or being rude are just intimidated by women, have a low IQ or realise they have nothing good going for them, so they resort to opening their mouths to feel a bit more powerful… honestly don’t worry about them, the weaker someone is, the more horrible they are!
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The repressing their attraction thing or the fact they “can’t control” their sexuality is bullsh! t… it’s to scare and intimidate us, and make us accept their shitty behaviour… their sexuality isn’t really that much different than ours… yet we don’t go round making lewd comments about men’s penises…you’ll find the less “control” he has round you… the less “desirable” he is to women, they know they have nothing to offer a woman so the only way they think they can get one is to bully a woman into being with them.
11 moThat's like asking should those with asthma even bother regularly breathing...
Beauty is truly the eyes of the beholder and the energy you put out is what you receive from the universe.
Who said you're ugly? Did you have it off of your societal standards? If so that's only going to make you feel bad about your self.
You have no ass or tiddies? Personally for me my ass is genetic but for my friends without that gene I would always tell them eat some southern collard greens and corn bread and buss out 100 squats morning and night before bed. Needless to say they got little cupcakes in the back to full blown ass. Just find you a shop that makes good southern greens and cornbread and buss out squats and you'll get ass. As for tiddies I don't know 🤷🏿♀️ 😐 My younger cousin is a beautiful thin twig and I'm shaped like a sack of potato's but got ass and tiddies. She started eating and boom had a little butt and tiddies. So just eat and work out.
As for the short legs unless you want that surgery that breaks your legs to make you taller but you have to learn to walk all over again... yeah it's not worth it. I'm 5'1" and my boyfriend is 6 foot.
I wouldn't say give up on dating just take time to pour energy into yourself. And to indulge in self care.00 Reply
11 mois this your assessment of yourself? no one is as ugly as their own negative perception thinks they are. i promise. anything anyone highlights as a flaw, if you asked a group of people most of them didn't notice the thing you hate and think is the worst thing about yourself. having a big bum and boobs is a pain - I'd love to be flatter and fit into nicer fashions, but I'm stuck being part of team curvy girls, and that's fine. guys out there like curvy girls and like skinnier girls too,
I've got short legs and have often been called 'cute' re height -your self esteem is a you thing not a them thing. what do you like about yourself? why? is it you're a great friend? you're kind? you look after your gran / younger bro? these are worthwhile qualities that matter more than you thinking you've got a squiffy eye or ugly nose. i promise they won't matter.
i had trust issues with other girls from being bullied - my guy mates were honest sometimes brutally so, but i knew they weren't being nice to my face and evil behind may back. if they thought i looked fat in a top they'd say it, if they thought i needed to sort my eyebrows id know, if they wanted me to move over, they'd be dead clear lol!
guys make great friends.
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11 moThere Is a partner for everyone and no woman or man should feel that their genetics have sentenced them to be single or celibate.
In my experience I would also say that the women that see themselves as more average looking in facial / physical appearance or non-hourglass figure are generally more likely to have more substance , more of a character or personality.
I would always choose the plain Jane with a brain over the mentally vacant barbie type if that was the trade-off. Personality and character goes a long way though. We fall in love with who a person is , not how they look.
The body ages and looks fade but , who we are shines though if a little weathered by what life throws at us.10 Reply 2.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. What they should do is put effort into being their best selves both on the outside and inside (personality/character). If they do that then no they shouldn't give up. If they are unwilling to then yes, they should give up.
Also it is not for women to say which women are good looking or not. I have known plenty of attractive women who thought they were ugly. I have also seen lots of cases where almost all women swear another woman is ugly but most guys agree she's hot. Women tend to be wrong about what guys like and especially WHY guys like it.
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12 moYou can't be friends with someone your attracted to, they ain't your mates, they are potential partners /sexual options.
I dont realy understand, your ugly... OK. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
If your dedicated, balanced, train, have a good soul and personality. Haven't slept around loads, then you will absolutely find someone who you like who likes you.
Just work on yourself, and you'll get there.
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@Nikki1989 it's not immature.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Every woman that "I" find attractive is obviously a potential sexual partner, weather they see it as that is another question lol... But to pretent to be thier "friend" is disingenuous, becuase I want to be with them.
Now if there personality is no good or they show signs of somthing I don't like, then I'm not attracted to them anymore, nor want to be thier friend.
All the "friends" that you have that are good looking / that you are attracted to are just your options, you keep them around to make you feel better about your ego. Becuase you know you could have them.
A true friend is somone whom you wouldn't ever be with in that way.
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11 moI'd say no. Doing that completely deprives yourself of meeting new people and forming new bonds & relationships (which is healthy & good for you & your mental health). If you want to take a break from dating and do your hobbies, make some extra money, etc. that's fine. But don't give up on dating just because of your height & body type.
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11 moAny philosophy pushing separation of Man and Woman looks wrong to me, wrong as in antisocial and dehumanizing. That's what I think of the collective aspect of such a philosophy. Now, individuals, it's something else, individuals may have individual reasons to avoid a gender, it's really something else.
00 Reply Well, I don’t see anything wrong with your appearance. Regardless, ugly people get married all the time, often to other ugly people.
I knew a really ugly but very nice girl once who had surgery and ended up looking like Kasey Chambers. Quite attractive.
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12 moWell there are a lot of ugly chics out there but you dont meet this description. (Judging by your pic you look like a beautiful blonde woman) usually men love blondes! Some people are just rude and like to put you down mostly because they are jealous. They are ugly so they have to make you feel ugly.
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Hmmm? Well i dont know what to say then, if she's faking people on here she needs to stop.
12 moI don't know, guys don't seem to have really high standards. I'm painfully average and I still get lots of attention. I could probably get even more with a glow up. And I think that's true for most girls too.
20 ReplyHey Narcissa; just asking: Who made you the moral arbiter or establishing what ‘beauty’ is?
Beauty is subjective to the individual; and it’s vacile and asinine comments like this that make life more challenging for people with confidence issues where their looks are concerned. My wife fought crap like this because she has Bells Palsy, and judgmental morons targeted her because of it. Jeez, get a life.00 Reply- 813 opinions shared on Dating topic.
12 moLove yourself first before you love anyone. If you even you are ugly how about others people. Being confident is the key, but it doesn’t mean you have to be delusional. Just love yourself, you will find someone who loves you.
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12 moNah, there are still men out there who will find you attractive. Be single if you want to be but if you want to date then go for it. It just might be more challenging/have different challenges if you’re outside the normal range looks-wise.
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11 moBeauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Also beauty or physical attraction is not necessary for friendship.
If you like each others personalities you can be friends even if there aren't physical attraction.00 Reply- 2.8K opinions shared on Dating topic.
11 moIt is harder for unattractive girls. I'd say lower your standards. If you are a "3" then you should be open to dating men that are "3's", don't be holding out for 8's and 9's.
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12 moNo! Short answer:
it's not all about looks, and even if it was being ugly wouldn't put you out of the running completely, it would just narrow ur options to other ugly people.
10 ReplyThere might possibly be a thing known as rising from the base level of consciousness. That's when men are no longer obsessed with impregnating the most fertile hoes they can find.
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11 moIm a bit confused on the short leg part lol. As for the lack or breasts and butt, there are plenty of guys who prefer flat chested girls, and you can always build your butt by working out. Lastly, i dont believe there's an ugly face, only what you do with it- getting the right haircut to flatter your face, doing your makeup right and gettjng the right jewelry will definitely help you reach your potential.
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This sad sack fad and broken girls staying here and not getting help is getting tiresome
10 Reply16.8K opinions shared on Dating topic. Beauty has always been subjective and always will be.
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11 moDamn, who pissed in your cheerios? Even the ugliest woman has a better shot at happiness than the ugliest man.
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11 moHeck no!. Those are often the ones who've developed the most compelling personalities and intriguing interests.
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12 moYou could try cutting off your legs and arms and wearing a paper bag over your head to pretend you're a chicken nugget.
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Dark humor!
361 opinions shared on Dating topic. You're not ugly, I suspect many guys like you, they are just shy. You are after all in Canada, if you were in the US I suspect you would get more attention.
20 Reply640 opinions shared on Dating topic. If they are that self conscious, they won't be safe by just doing that. They will see other girls around them as they go, social media, posters, movies, commercials. The image of beauty is everywhere.
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12 moBeauty is in the eye of the beholder. I don’t think there’s anything such thing as an official, ugly or official. Anything beauty is an eye of the beholder.
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11 moNo, she just needs to stop shooting over her own league for guys..
00 Reply Plenty of guys will f**k them and simps will marry them. Simps will marry anyone.
00 ReplyI doubt it, I see a lot of ugly thirty-something women on the street who think they are attractive.
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11 moPick a guy you don’t like that way to be friends with
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11 moThey can be with ugly, muscular, ordinary men.
Every person can definitely find a suitable partner for themselves.00 Reply- 8.8K opinions shared on Dating topic.
11 mothere's bottom of the barrel guys like there's bottom of the barrel girls. they'll happily take them.
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11 moYes, steer clear of any human interactions when you're ugly. Obviously that makes sense. Not every man will think you're ugly, you do
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12 moI’ve got small boobs so feel like it’s me 🫤
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And short legs as in short
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12 moNo, they should seek men who like their appearance (there would be some) and also appreciate their intellect and their personality.
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11 moI love girls with tiny tits! Flat chested girls rock!
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Anonymous(45 Plus)12 moIf that's how she truly sees herself? Probably. How's a guy supposed to see her as attractive if not even she does.
10 ReplyA decent personality and self esteem can knock mens socks off.
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11 moWomen benifit a ton by being friends w/ men. Men don't get a lot of benifit.
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11 moKinda harsh, I would say there is someone out there for everybody.
00 Reply4.9K opinions shared on Dating topic. Avoid people that don't appreciate you as a person.
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11 moWell that depends what are your measurements and I'll tell you?
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11 moUnless she also has a shit attitude, she can get a man.
00 Reply 4.4K opinions shared on Dating topic. You don't have to be friends with guys you find attractive.
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11 moNo, because there's a Jack for every Jill, as the saying goes.
00 Reply 1.6K opinions shared on Dating topic. And how would having people point out those issues not give them low self esteem?
00 ReplyNobody should ever give up regardless of their situation. there is a match for everything and everybody somewhere.
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Anonymous(30-35)11 moNo, they shouldn’t give up. There are guys with ugly faces, lanky and overweight bods hiding out there for them.
00 ReplyWell for any girl is a guy there! To bad that not working another way around.
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12 moNo there is someone looking for that, I have been single all of my life.
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Anonymous(25-29)11 moWhat’s ugly to you may not be to another.
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11 moIt rarely is due to appearances.
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11 moThere’s someone for everyone
00 Reply I think beauty the eye of the beholder.
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11 moUsually not worth it
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