Are "playing hard to get" tactics manipulative or an effective dating strategy?

[HawkPerception]

Manipulative

Effective dating strategy

[D_Bone_Steak]

It's got to be the dumbest attempt at manipulation.

Here's what happens with a dude like me. "Oh, she's not that interested, her friend seems interested though." And then I start fucking her friend instead.

Playing games is fucking stupid. You're not going to find anything serious until you take it seriously. What if I start playing hard to get? Yeah, where is that going to get me? Wouldn't you think I'm fucking retarded every time it doesn't work?

In a woman's case it's just going to chase off every man that actually respects her expressed desires. That's right... every guy that gives a fuck about what she thinks is going to leave her alone and guess which guys will stick around? That's right... Mr. P. U. A. master that's got to prove to the bros he can get the panties to drop.

You got to be pretty hard up for pussy to "chase" a girl that gives you signs of rejection. So she'll get the other guys that are just desperate for pussy as well. We usually call them SIMP's (Sucker Idolizing Mediocre Pussy). Oh yeah, I'm sure they'll put up with that horse shit. Oh and the icing on the cake is going be another category of guys that will stick around...

I'm going to call him Mr. Date Rape. If you thought the other guys were desperate... holy fuck Mr. Date Rape isn't going to take "Stop, No, & Don't" as an acceptable answer.

[TDDMS]

In my life, I've seen women use the hard to get tactics. What ultimately happens with these women is that they get to their late 30s before they realize their tactics don't work and then they have to rush out and take the first man that expresses even the slightest interest in her even if she doesn't want him. And then they have to hope and pray that one of their eggs is at least half viable so that she can lock him down.

One woman I went to school with was 38 when she finally got married and managed to poop out a kid. Another one is in her mid 40s still single, no children, and presumably zero male attention.

The moral of the story: playing hard to get tactics just leaves women single, frustrated, and barren.

[Avicenna]

They’re manipulative and ineffective

[Oncewildtwiceburned]

For guys these days we should wait till our 30s to get married when we have money to afford kids or lawyers for Family Court and divorce court if things go bad.

Mature minded women usually will seek mature men if they are serious meaning they look for a little age on their men.

Also being easy is a bad idea for a guy, at it marks him as easy pray for gold diggers and baby trappers. Its easy for women to get men, common knowledge, so patience is a must for a woman when looking for a partner. Not sleeping with even the hot guys, which they rarely exercise. Here’s the catch, once they find the right guy they shouldn’t play hard to get, this is why being upfront about how you find the man you’re dating attractive, but you don’t want to sleep with him until you get to know him better is a must for a woman to secure a good loyal, healthy man.

It’s all too difficult for people not born into a good two parent home, The current dating crisis reminds me of why arrangement marriages were best.

[Oncewildtwiceburned]

So basically playing hard to get is better for guys is my point as it will likely keep you single until you can afford it.

[WindAtMyBack]

It's manipulative. I will take her at her word, so she needs to be honest.

Hard-to-get is completely contrary to "no means no". Playing those kind of games get women in trouble. It sends entirely the wrong kind of message.

Stop playing head games. This isn't fucking 1950 and I'm surprised some women are still being told this nonsense.

[RichA322]

Those tactics worked in the past, but they are only manipulative today.

Because "sticking around" and "fighting for the heart of a women" will get you into prison for harassment and land you on TikTok today.

So it's a waste of time.

[hahahmm]

I think it worked in the past because there were a bunch of other rules being followed... later on it became all a one sided game where women acted like the could break all of the rules and still expect men to give them all the traditional benefits. But even back in the day, I preferred women who didn't play at all to those who did once I was out of my early/mid 20s.

[Gwendoline]

Not an a manipulative tactic. It ensures that a guy you like is actually intrested in you for more than just sex. If a guy likes you he will stick around, if he doesn't he will be away with the first other girl that parts her legs for him. If yiu want to manipulate a man you give him sex to do so.

[RichA322]

No he won't stick around. Thanks to TikTok he will be afraid of being labeled a "creep" and he will immediately quit bein interested in you.

Those tactics you described worked BEFORE social media. Today less and less Men are willing to do that. Thank social Media for that...

[Gwendoline]

@RichA322 not so. If you are dating then you are dating.

[RichA322]

Same applies to dating today. If she plays hard to get-> I move on immediately
No means no.
And of the answer is no = no reason to try any longer.

The time you described ended about 10-15 years ago. Sticking around is a reason to be arrested by police or to get filmed on TikTok, called an creep and then getting arrested.

Look at the statistics. ~60% of all men in the US have not even the will to TRY dating any longer.
If she says no: I won't ask ever again and move on.

That's how it is today.

Sorry, but that is the modern world of social media. You have to accept it. If you say no, Monat men won't bother to try any longer.

[Gwendoline]

@RichA322 that's the idea, most men won't. So your separating the f-boys from your future husband. It worked for me anyhow.

[Sharkstealth]

Gray divorce.

[Gwendoline]

@Sharkstealth I'm Catholic we don't believe in divorce

[Valdemort]

Sometimes I think women are better off dating women and men dating men. Seems like we can't just find a middle ground on our differences anymore lmfao xd

It's stupid to try and use any tactics, as it should be a naturally developed connection, but at the same time - I can understand the idea behind it. I think people want to know someone will fight for you, but at the same time... it's usually counterproductive. It's not as black and white as presented.

[Sharkstealth]

Women have turned men in to women starting in the 60s. In turn the women turned gay.

[Joshydavid25]

"Sometimes I think women are better off dating women and men dating men."

That's exactly what the elites want. But also... The would be impractical and impossible.. Women seem to have most of the power in Western society and it's a bit unnatural.. That's what the problem seems to be.

[Joshydavid25]

Yeah, it's definitely manipulative.. I get not wanting to seem too available to build desire, but playing mind games is definitely not the way to someone's heart.. It's not genuine..

[exitseven]

After I got screwed over a couple of times by girls who were just playing games If somebody started that crap with me I would immediately dump them.

[PBandJ_Nerd]

Playing hard to get would come off as not being interested, I think. So, it wouldn't work.

[roninzos]

Well, we know women all clamor for "high value" guys... translation -the top 10 percent. Let's ask them. So, ladies, has your resting bitch face gotten you a Harvard Law School grad working for a major firm in Manhattan now? How about Michael B Jordan, you landed him? An NFL wide receiver for the Falcons, you snagged him long term, right? An heir to a billionaire fortune living in Catalina, you got him, didn't you? Let the votes pour in!🤗

[TheStaleMarshmellow]

In a world of consent this, consent that.

Pretty manipulative

[NicholasRedone]

They sure are voted A - it never works out unless both the man and the woman already are into each other and aren't required to use pick up lines, mess with each other's minds,

[TheSpaceGnome]

In today's society, if a person isn't basically throwing themselves on you, you ignore them. Hard to get isn't hard to get anymore, its just staying single.

[sage2021]

I once had a guy in my life that played hard to get SO HARD that he ended up losing me because I got sick and tired of him playing hard to get.

[GeminiDiamond]

Neither. People sometimes don't know what they want. While in face value it seems they are being false, it comes down to knowing what you want as an individual.

[princeofromance]

I would not recommend this particular strategy for it will backfire in the end.

[Guanfei]

Play hard to get with me, and you'll get nothing.

[WhitneySnow]

Both. They are manipulative, but they also work sometimes. The trouble is, other times they don’t work and the person loses interest.

[Ms_Facesitter]

Effective for the people who like playing along. Not effective for the people who are serious about looking for a relationship.

[PeachyPie93]

Yes, it's effective in keeping bad men away from you.

[slatyb]

That won't work with the men worth dating. If a woman declines they will go ask someone else.

[es20490446e]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/ctyj-ineGbU

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[Abdulwahh]

If a women really likes a guy she subconsciously challenges him in such a manner called playing hard to get, the psychology behind it women use it to weed out week men from strong men, always be witty and grounded for these challenges

[Sunnylife5228]

Playing hard to get to the point you can't even communicate with a person or build a relationship with them is bad in my opinion. But i think maintaining a bit of mystery without completely pushing someone away isn't bad.

[straightmax12]

People who play "hard to get" not considers themselves more important in a romantic relationship, but also lose the person they might have an attraction too.

[Drumlin2001]

Don't like games. Just be honest with people

[dudeinohio]

Mind games are an immediate deal-breaker

[Pterodon]

It’s juvenile games

[MadhuriDixit]

It is just a waste of time for everyone.

[MoonFace2]

A bit of both

[LiamJHayden]

Manipulation and a hard pass.

[Crazzyyworld]

be yourself works all the time