Why is there such a rise in femcells on this platform?

[Anonymous]

Incels were always a thing online.
With how tough dating is for men many of them just whine and complain and get outraged about women just to cope with their own inferiority.

But these days it seems many women do the same for men
On this platform it’s very prevalent

Why is that?
Last I checked women still had it easy when it comes to dating what changed all of a sudden?

[NoDecision]

I think it's 50/50

The term femcel refers to a community of women who have chosen to opt-out of sexual and romantic relationships. Similar to how incels, or male involuntary celibates, blame feminists for their inability to secure a satisfying sex life, femcels view misogyny and unjust beauty norms as a factor that inhibits their true sexual and romantic desires. More specifically, femcels believe that they are only desirable to men sexually, not romantically, and therefore have created internet personas surrounding their inability to be loved.

Incels have a history of being violent anti-feminists and have even gained the title of being a growing terroristic threat by the United States Secret Service. Because incels blame feminism for their lackluster sex lives, they view the cries of femcels to be far from valid. The reason is most incels believe that women have it easier than men because in their opinion, everyone wants to have sex with women. Therefore, in their eyes, femcels are just being too picky. Others have made their way to TikTok comments and have called the creation of the femcel community “cultural appropriation.”

The issue for femcels is not about being sexually attractive, it’s that sexual desire is not satisfying enough for them. The female experience is not devoid of pain and inconvenience. Interpreting being sexually desired but not respected as being “too picky” goes to show what incels believe being sexually desired means. These women want genuine connection and want to be desired in all ways, not just sexually. One femcel articulated the feeling of only being sexually desirable to Elle: “Being the person a man is willing to ejaculate into is like being a toilet. It can be a very dehumanizing experience.”

Femcels have similar experiences to all women such as only being desired and not respected, which is exactly why feminists have rallied for generations to ensure women have equitable experiences. But where there are concerns about dehumanizing sexual experiences, the community also engages in misandry, or a deep dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against the male sex. This makes it difficult for those outside of the community to support or hear the concerns of femcels. On TikTok you’ll see dozens of members from the femcel community dragging men about their poor qualities and dating habits. When you look deep into the commentary, there are people commenting that the extreme misandry is exactly why no one wants to date them. One person commented under the TikTok above: “if EVERY man you meet is like that i’m pretty sure they aren’t the problem.”

It’s hard to know which came first, the misandry, or being mistreated by men. But one thing’s for sure, femcels have a deep disdain for the current dating pool and its beauty standards, while incels believe feminists are to blame for their sexual dysfunction. In either case, both groups have their own perspectives, but are femcels wrong for their approach?

[Asker]

Oh waw that was magnificent
Almost too insightful for GAG

The one thing I would push back on the idea that it’s a “choice”
Because the term involuntary in itself means it’s against someone’s will (coming from the french word for will which is “volonté”)

Both incels and femcells are thrown into that position because ultimately they themselves live lackluster lives and have become uninteresting and make lousy partners

They are often confused with the people who chose to live a life of celibacy despite having dating options
(Although I personally think those people are lying to themselves and coping for having a lack in some area of their lives that makes them feel bad about the idea of dating)

In any case I know what sequence of events can lead a guy into the incel route

But as far as femcells go I find it somewhat strange that their numbers keep going up and up.
(The obvious would be the women who are glaringly repulsive in some way but these are few. Yet the femcel community keeps gaining new members)

[Pet68]

Good explanation. I'd never come across the term 'femcel' before, and even now as I type the word a little red squiggly line forms under it, because the computer doesn't recognise it as a word.

[Nikki1989]

There are a couple of them on here, and they are just as irritating as the male incels.

[Summeroflove]

A lot of people on this website are just absolutely miserable cows who take their misery out on everyone. They are here to share things they can’t or won’t share in real life. You start to see peoples dark sides come to life on here

[OneViewpoint]

What changed? Well, it takes two to tango so to speak. When a significant portion of dating age males started walking away from approaching women, got off the dating apps, and refused to play the traditional male role in dating, women sort of had the decision made for them.

A higher percentage of the guys who were left on the dating apps were the Chads or scumbags, or scary needy. A Chad is ONLY gonna consider the top 10% of women. Because he can do that all day every day. Why wouldn't he. A scumbag is gonna treat women badly. A needy guy is gonna turn a woman off.

So it's not surprising that women are also walking off the dance floor when they find no one left to dance with. There are probably a large group of dating age men and a large group of dating age women who simply don't show up any more.

So much for dating apps and social media changing the game! As usual, the top 10% benefit and everyone else is worse off. It's human nature. So why play a game you can't win?

[Asker]

Or, here’s a wild idea:

Win the fucken game

There’s no such thing as “can’t”

[cth2188]

I left the party 10 years ago when dating when down hill

[OneViewpoint]

Wow, that's a great idea. Unless you're no longer interested in the game. Hide and seek was fun when you were 5. Not so much when you're 45 and you've been there and done that.

[cth2188]

I don't want to be found and I'm still young

[OneViewpoint]

@cth2188 ,

That's a valid response. We all choose to play or not to play. Maybe you just want a time out for a while. Maybe it never changes. Dunno why this upsets the OP.

[cth2188]

It's not changing for me

[DryGermanGuy]

I don't know if their numbers are on the rise here or in general, but they exist and I had a run-in with one just a few days ago. It's the one that screeches "pornooography!!!" every time where regular people express their personalities and "fooornication!!!" about every event where men and women meet each other. I try to be at least somewhat tolerant, but when she seriously meant that YouTube would be a den of sexual content, I had to call out the silly nutjob for what she is.

[Billlewis]

I highly, highly doubt that there are more than a tiny percentage of women who are really, truly involuntarily celibate. I think it’s more a case of them being disgusted with men in general, but nevertheless still willing to log onto this site and shame the living crap out of us, which we are all in dire need of.

[hahahmm]

Fewer guys are being simps these days so competition between women has increased. Maybe we will return to the days when everybody had to abide by certain social rules and expectations to give some loyalty and show respect instead of acting like wild animals with no regard for the long term.

[PeachyPie93]

That's pretty much all this site is.. its a place for rejects that can't find love men and woman alike. Sure woman have it easier to get laid by men but in this shitty gen men don't want to date as much because so many sluts are willing to put out on the first date.. So it is what it is.. men who can't get laid and woman who can't find love..

[White_Widow]

Soo... Men can complain but women can't? This tells more about you anon then the women that complain lol.

[Asker]

I never said I approve of even men complaining.

But with men I see why they might

With women I don’t

Hence my question :)

[White_Widow]

This goes for men and women, everyone is turning into snowflakes 🤦🏻‍♀️

[ChicoFromThe305]

Id imagine it's a mix of things, the hate from men I'm sure helps them retaliate with hate, many get played, they are easily influenced by media or the classic reason, they don't get no play.

[Anonymous]

I'd answer this but it will get removed. Let me just say because these types of women would not be able to get away with some of the vile things they say to men and some of the way they think IRL. Knowing that these women cannot do this IRL they come here to take it out on any random guy. Because to these women all men are the same. Because these women have yet to take accountability for the role SHE plays in HER life.

[DrPepper12]

Either gender they're "volcels" because it's VOLUNTARY.

Y'all are just lazy with no game

[Smegskull]

Because the platform is old so the users are getting older.

[Pet68]

Femcels? Female incels? How is that even possible?

[Anonymous]

Femcl is not the lack of male attention or being involuntary celibate. it's just they can't get the guys they want to date.

[cth2188]

Femcels aren't women who can't get the men they want - the issue is there's not enough quality men for them to choose from. If women want to settle they can , if they want to get laid they can, and so on. Women who are celibate choose to be celibate.

[cth2188]

You incels are voluntarily celibate because no woman wants to sleep with you. Women can get sex easily we can sell it, promote it, and give it away for free.

[Opinion Owner]

@cth2188

I am not incel.

[cth2188]

Just clearing up what you said about male attention - I don't doll myself up for the male gaze.. I dress up to appease myself

[cth2188]

I'm also celibate and not interested in sleeping with men as an asexual - sex repulsed

[Opinion Owner]

@cth2188 I basically said the same thing Femcl is not involuntary celibate I was correcting the guy who posted this question. I didn't require your explanation I already know what femcl is. You can explain that to him.

[cth2188]

Talking about they can't get the guys they want - still incorrect and I'm gonna correct them

[shortster]

We are an increasingly solitary society. People spend too much time online and not enough time offline.

[Anonymous]

Guess you should get out of the basement more. Thinking is warping reality for you.

[SmileyLady]

Now everyone’s got it harder because of the media and online dating sites.

[Anonymous]

These women are just feminists, and feminists were the original incels.

[strateguy632]

She felt lonely