I've always been horrible at negotiating pay raises since I tend to find even the starting salary as a software engineer to be far more than what I need to be comfortable. Yet I found that forcing myself to do that, less for the money and more for the respect did actually lead to the company respecting me more as an employee for some bizarre reason. I actually didn't really care about the money so much but I valued being treated like an important member of the company.
That’s a very interesting take! Thanks!
Cheers! Maybe it is the case that simply valuing ourselves and our work enough to be active in negotiating raises just shows the higher-ups that you're someone formidable who cannot be so mistreated or taken for granted. I am not sure. I found my initial cheerful disposition in just being paid at all without ever making the effort to negotiate at first often seemed to lead to situations where my first company took me very much for granted.For example, I'd frequently take my work home near deadlines and work unpaid even on weekends, and do other people's work for them if they were falling behind. And I actually enjoyed that but what I didn't enjoy is that I was so eager and willing to do such things for free that my boss seemed to even come to expect it and take it for granted rather than appreciating it. It was only when my colleagues and people close to me noticed and started suggesting to me that I at least start negotiating raises that I bothered to try, and counter-intuitively (at least to me), doing so made the people above me treat me far better in ways that made the job far more enjoyable.
That’s an excellent concept! So, you tolerate your current job, but don’t exactly like it?
Maybe tolerate was the wrong choice of words: I've only had this position for a few weeks now. So it's new, but I'm still learning all my roles, responsibilities. And due to covid, being redeployed to help out other areas that need help in our facility. But compared to my previous position? Oh it's paradise; I love my new job and boss!
That definitely makes sense then! 😊 I’m glad you like your current job! That’s a key to success!
@Cynicaldreamer Completely agree. I would never go back to my old job even if they paid me more. Peace of mind is key.
Those are very admirable things to spend money on! 😊
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And guys NEED access to free food and pussy too!!! 🤨🤨🤨 (sarcasm) People should be rewarded based upon what they provide to others. I agree that the common man is slave to the big corporations who are in bed with the Governments, and that is wrong. But mandating a small buisness owner to pay all his profits out in salary to his/her employees while the big buisness receives kickbacks from government to cover the difference and every common man pays exceedingly higher costs for goods won’t help anyone. Government overreach has never ever helped the common man, and never will. But I have no interest in discussing politics any further. This question was meant to be philosophical. 😊
@Charliefretz329 Those who work eat, that's how it should be. No one said anything about access to pussy. That's not the point. Small business owners can stay small by working their own shit if they want. Keep it large enough that you can do what you need solo or with 1-3 employees. It's ridiculous that people can't have their basic needs met on minimum wage. Other countries are doing it fine, we can get on board too. That's why I'm saving up for after my business degree to live abroad. That nation will get my taxes and I'll likely revoke my citizenship here since the gov and society has failed me in every single way.
Not a terrible situation, but one to make you think huh?
That’s so true
Yep 👍 truth
Motivation yes! But enjoyment?
Yes because if I was motivated, I would be happier while working and would be thinking about how much money I’ll get for doing it.
There’s a lot of truth there
You sir, are in a splendid situation
I think it starts with self respect, no choice but to do what you love all on purpose.
That is comprised when you become hungry, especially when your children are hungry
Absolutely, maintaing yourself is the best way to acquire more resources
You dislike your current job then?
The job itself isn’t bad. It’s the management.
That’s got a lot of truth in it to an extent. I worked a job I ended up hating and took several pay raises as an incentive to not leave the job. I hated it just as much with the extra pay, but I was happy to be purchasing myself a brighter future
Yeah similar story to you. Over the 5 years I was there they doubled my pay to keep me staying on, eventually though I'd had enough, so they offered me another 10k to stay but I turned it down and resigned.
Money only goes so far. It needs to benefit all aspects of your life somehow
Yes very true, I learnt that money is not the route to happiness.
That’s a great comparison!
It’s a vital part of it no doubt
💰 money talks!!!
Indeed! Money talks. The rest can walk home broke 😏
This is a solid statement I believe. Do you enjoy your current job?
sure. but my job is gonna be my job, no matter how much they pay me to do it xD
No additional pleasure from knowing your job is providing more compensation? 🧐
sure but that won't change anything about the work i'm doing. i mean i never really think of "how much money my work puts in my bank account". that only maters once i am in my free time..
It sounds like you are in a good position where you are fulfilled by the work you do, and you make enough to live comfortable
it's decent. i chose my work to make me happy, not rich :D
That’s a great place to be in life. Much better than working only to survive
yeah that's shit you never learn in school :) once you finally understand that life is not a competition and more money doesn't correlate with more happiness, your priorities change.
Hard to disagree
Understand that concept completely
I mean if I am in a job that I don't find enjoyable then I am probably in it just for the money. So yeah I'd appreciate a pay raise
I agree then, I’ll take yours to help you out
See how evil it made you? Now you are a thief. :(
Nah, I’m a recipient of an item that burdened you
Good luck 🤞 😉
That doesn’t make sense
I currently make less a year that would be required to filed for and pay taxesA pay raise would cost me far more that it makes me
💪🙌😏 Good luck man!!!
It can however purchase items that make your life easier
And that can bring more pleasure
How do you like your current job?
I got 2.I deal with 1 of them and love the other
Which pays the most?
The one i least like it's only reason I'm workin there
That is a common situation. If you could switch the scenario up it’d be ideal
Can’t really argue that! Lol
It’s definitely a motivating factor for the majority of us