Which one do you think is more important: motivation or talent?

[Kulotz]

I think I will say motivation. If you are motivated and encouraged enough, you can beat everything. But talent opens the way for you sometimes, doesn't it?

[HawkPerception]

It depends on what it's related to.

In sports, I'm gonna say that talent trumps hard work for the most part. I was talented in soccer and didn't put in as much effort as others when it came to practice and effort, but I learned skills easily and was one of the better players.

Same thing with music. You're either musically talented or not. I was a natural at piano and able to play melodies by ear without learning how to read notes. I'm not a very social person, so I don't see a lot of people, but no one has been able to do the same as me.

But when it comes to life, finances, and business, I think that hard work trumps talent by far. I'm not trying to be arrogant, but I was naturally intelligent, but I put no effort into school and skipped and slept though classes when I was younger. At first in elementary school, I was getting high grades, then high school came around and my grades started slipping year by year. The dumbest kids I know who put consistent effort in school got ahead and ended up getting into decent universities and now they have great well paying jobs. And the people that are dumb and not afraid of making mistakes are the ones that thrive when it comes to starting their own businesses.

Obviously if you have both talent and put in hard work, then you're gonna kill it in life, but if I had to choose one or the other, I'd say hard work trumps talent for the important things.

[82lynx]

I’ve wasted too much time and energy already on projects I could not complete. Regardless of how enthusiastic I was about such projects at first they turned out to be so difficult and time-consuming that I would end up exhausted and feeling down, not to mention upset with myself for not calling it quits a lot sooner. As Clint Eastwood said in Magnum Force, a man’s got to know his limitations*.

Lately I’ve been trying to pick my battles more wisely and channel my energy into more worthwhile things, i. e. volunteering at my first school. Besides, I have other hobbies that I find far more interesting, and require far less muscle.

* Of course this applies to both sexes. Incidentally I believe Harry was repeating what a corrupt detective had said to him earlier, just after that detective was blown up while making a very slow getaway in a ‘72 Ford Custom that had already taken a pretty bad thrashing..

[jennifer_bloom]

I attempted my degree twice, once while as an 19 year old and another time as a full grown adult and I was more intelligent as a teenager but my grades were much lower because I did not care about my grades nor did I have the wisdom to know how to meet the expectations of my professors. In my adult attempt at school, I got one of the highest grades in all my classes while potentially being one of the dumbest students in my class, because I had wisdom and life experience and dedication to grades in my second attempt.

[Rei13]

They are both important to a degree. If you have zero talent/capability to do something you’re probably not going to do it well no matter how hard you work at it. However in general hard work is more important than talent. You can have minimal ability and go to being a master, where someone else that has a lot of natural talent will never grow if they don’t put in any effort and just be stuck where ever their baseline is at

[Anonymous]

Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not: nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. — Calvin Coolidge

[Kulotz]

good quote!

[NathanDavis]

of the two... I prefer talent

and for everyone saying talented people do not work hard and lack motivation...

- Tom Brady
- Michael Jordan
- Messi
- Cristiano Ronaldo

always the first ones to arrive, and always the last ones to leave the training and practice... lol

[Rei13]

Yeah if someone is naturally talented and work hard they’re a force to be reckoned with lol

[NathanDavis]

@Rei13 exactly... which is why we celebrate them every four years...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkhVjm9iGFc

[DextroShade]

Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard.

[Kulotz]

I like that

[provokeesmokee]

Motivation/discipline/consistency.

Talent can increase your starting baseline or make things relatively easy for you, but true mastery takes effort no matter what.

Consistent effort will always make a bigger difference over time than innate talent that isn't nurtured.

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

If you view a talent as a gift, being motivated by others and personal goals are also a blessing. Since a person is lucky to be exposed to anything that inspires them, I don't think there's a dissimilarity.

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I read a story about Bill Gates. There were series of incidences leading to where he is now. In short, talents together with motivation bring you success.

[IslaTheWitch]

only talent is nothing. to use it, you have to have motivation and put in hard work...

[BLP11520]

Exactly

[Siri137]

Wrong.

[DreamLife7]

Both honestly because I've worked at places where the motivated person who wasn't good at their job got ahead yet I've worked in places where talented people got their work done quicker by distributing task and were less stressed. Both IA good to have

[blueonblack22]

Without hard work talent is near worthless. It’s like being really smart but never applying it to anything.

But I believe without talent there is a limit from being good vs great. You see this a lot I with performers and athletes.

[RingOfFire]

Talent. No matter how much motivation you have, if you don't have the talent you will not achieve the goal. Motivation, however, is a matter of choice. You decide how important the goal is to you and what level of motivation you have to achieve it. No one else is responsible for motivating you. Motivation comes from within.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Talents are just work that comes to fruition faster. This means that talents make it possible to work on more things than people without talents, or alternatively, spend less time working while still achieving, leaving more time for leisure.

So it is better to have talents than it is to not have them.

[litty736]

I've been motivated with 0 positive results. I'll say talent gets you places compare to hard work. A person who works harder cannot be on the same level as the gifted one. With slight effort the talented would be at an advantage so with that being said its talent everytime.

[Yannae]

Motivation. It gets you personality, grit, willpower to continue when things get rough.

[Anonymous]

Hard work. I have no talent. But I I have drive in spades and that is the reason for my success hardwork + time = success.

However no one is successful without a little luck. I can't tell you how many time the coin of fate just happened to fall in my favor. Now I'm on the verge of being a millionaire. Compare that to my sister who born into the same family, same situation etc. Has declared bankruptcy twice. I simply had more luck than she did.

[robocop666]

Talent. I have seen people play sports with no training and out perform people who are at it 10 years. It happens in MMA all the time when an athlete wants to compete.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/1PQiq8zajCE

[Flatmanlewis]

Motivation. Without doubt. Motivation means you’ll put in the work. Talent could be natural but it can also lead to entitlement or coasting a lucky wave until the moment adversity strikes.

[TM_KO_AF]

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[ProbablyClueless]

Motivation, for sure. Talent is a weird thing, because it gives you a good starting point, but it can hold you back from self improvement as well, if you aren't careful.

Motivation is a much more reliable factor.

[genericname85]

tallent is a bullshit word. nobody is good at something without having put in the work. the word "talent" is just a word that jealous people who didn't put in the work use to belittle someones success.

[Siri137]

Rubbish! Unless you have the ability in the first place to accomplish whatever your goal may happen to be, no amount of "hard work" or motivation will make up for that. Could you ever be a talented singer, superb surgeon, maths whiz or Olympic athlete? I know I couldn't, no matter how hard I tried.

[genericname85]

@Siri137 you know what's rubbish? making an argument from the extremes to say something about the general. if your benchmark for "being talented" is "being the best in the world", i guess you're right tho. but i don't use the word "talent" like that.

[genericname85]

@Siri137 but you can even look at the best in the world. if they didn't put in the world, someone else would be best. point and case.

[Siri137]

I didn't SAY the best in the world! Geez, so many people on this site either can't read, or have comprehension issues!

[genericname85]

@Siri137 if you're not putting in the work, you're not gonna be good. you said "Could you ever be a talented singer, superb surgeon, maths whiz or Olympic athlete? I know I couldn't, no matter how hard I tried." olympic athletes are the best in the world. so it seems you really don't understand what you're saying yourself. you made the argument with the extremes not me.

i do agree that thre's some ammount of genetic influence that gives some peole a higher potential for pyhsical performance. and some people have higher levels of intelligence than others by nature. that are different factors than "talent" tho.

everyone can bekome a good drawer. a fit sportsman. good at maths. all that. you just gotta put in to work to get there which i repeatedly stated. and if you're not putting in the work, you aren't gonna be very good, even if you have the perfect genes and high intelligence.

[genericname85]

and calling it "talen" disregards the work you had to put in.

[BLP11520]

Motivation, you get people to succeed in life🤔

[Drumlin2001]

Both ideally. But hard work out of the two. Look at uiw many naturally talented sports people drop out in late teens /early 20's. It takes hard work alongside talent to make it a career