Is Rick and Morty running out of ideas?

[theChineseWASP]

When I first saw the show in 2013 I thought that the would run out of ideas fast. Now watching season 4 in 2020 I feel like that's exactly what happened. I mean how many sci-fi ideas can you parody until you're stuck?

Like why Justin and Dan did you come up with such a myopic series? You guys should have focused on creating a story and universe! That way you have something to keep justifying new episodes! That's what Adventure Time did and they easily created a masterpiece series!

Rick and Morty pushed themselves into a corner when their only premise was to spoof sci-fi movies/themes.

I also thought Rick and Morty would run out of ideas

I didn't think that at first but I think they are running out of ideas now

I don't think Rick and Morty is running out of ideas

I seriously don't care

[ZackBan]

Every theme eventually gets milked dry. Even if they do build a universe eventually they'll be repeating themselves.
Just look at extremely long franchises like James Bond for example. The same story has been reshaped and retold time and time again.

[theChineseWASP]

I agree that happens eventually but what about for the time being? Do you think Rick and Morty has run out of ideas?

[ZackBan]

Honestly I've only seen a few episodes from each season and never the whole show so I can't say for sure

[meesegoMoo]

They just need good writers. They don't have to stick with purely parodying sci-fi, but even if they did a good writer wouldn't run out of ideas for another 20 years easily.

[theChineseWASP]

Hmm well I don't see how their series can go for another five-plus seasons at this rate of output. It's hard for me to see where else they can take this series in the style that they are currently doing. I'm genuinely just curious how it can be sustained...

[meesegoMoo]

It could, but not with the current crew. They need to get straightened a bit. 3 years between seasons for 10 episodes is ridiculous.

[theChineseWASP]

I agree.

[hellacray]

I don't know this is the only show that I've seen where they heavily focus on the idea of infinite universes and infinite possibilities.

Like an army of Rick and Mortys or the transfer of Rick's mind to another Rick's body.

in my opinion I think the show has way too many possibilities to ever run out of ideas.

I'm still curious to see what's going to happen in the second part of season 4.

[theChineseWASP]

Infinite universes is definitely a good idea but I don't think the writers utilize it enough. They just use it to paper over plot holes and they don't really explore the multi-verse in and of itself.

I think having a universe is important for making a series interesting. That's how comic book series succeed and stuff like Star Wars or Star Trek. But the show seems to focus more on being wacky and ridiculous rather than truly engaging.

Like there's only so many ways I can see Rick transfer his mind before I get bored of it. It's just a trick it's not like a real story. I don't know if that makes sense.

[hellacray]

Well I would say the universe of Rick and Morty is the multi verse.

And I would say they made pretty good use of it so far. Like you get to see what other Rick's are up to, you explore all these wacky places, and you find out Rick has a limited amount of times where he can take over himself if he screws up another universe.

And not to mention there's still a good chunk of back story we don't know about Rick. Namely what happened to his wife and why he abandoned the family. There are plenty of theories tho.

Yeah I can definitely see with so many possibilities. You can definitely fix any plot hole.

[theChineseWASP]

Rick's backstory would definitely be interesting to watch. Along with Evil Morty's backstory and maybe a few other story archs.

[hellacray]

Yup it sure would.

[RolandCuthbert]

How are they running out of ideas when the series is a saga? We still have evil Morty running the Citadel. The Birdperson has become Phoenixperson and is stalking Rick with his girlfriend who is a galactic agent. Are agents of the galactic government planning to return to power?

And the biggest question of all. Is Rick right that life is pointless, everyone is an accident and the universe has holds no meaning? Or will he finally admit that loving and being loved truly matter to him?

If you are watching it just for the jokes, you might want to find some else to keep you entertained. It hits on a much deeper level.

[theChineseWASP]

LOL no the show is not that deep. They literally have characters based on butts and poop. I watch the show for story and there is not enough of it. A lot of their episodes have been spoofing off of sci-fi movies. That route is a dead end. There is a story but it is not well attended to so I feel like the series is become tiresome.

[RolandCuthbert]

Actually the show is deep. It is just that the writer get tired of the fanboys. It is funny, the episode about Morty and the death crystals was really about nazi racist sexist fanboys who thought the creators were on their side. So they actually spent a couple of episodes making sure those racist sexist nutfreaks knew they have nothing to do with them. Just because Rick is not PC and irreverent, somehow that translates into him being a racist?

That was hilarious.

www.theguardian.com/.../i-loathe-these-people-rick-and-morty-and-the-brilliant-backlash-against-tvs-bad-fans

[theChineseWASP]

It may be deep but I don't think they are producing the episodes very efficiently. Four seasons in 7 years is not a good pace...

[RolandCuthbert]

Like I said, the show is deep. So deep, you missed their criticism of themselves for being too slow, fighting all the time and behind schedule.

The episode closes with Summer giving that critique of the writers.

But you missed that, I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bowoIV9tC0

[theChineseWASP]

Wait how is breaking the fourth wall in and of itself "deep"? Don't get me wrong I'm a big fan of Rick and Morty too. I do like how the show incorporates some philosophy in it. My main criticism is that I just think the show is taking too long. And that's not because they're being profound it's because they're not organized within themselves...

[RolandCuthbert]

Its funny first you say the show isn't deep, then it is. . . then it isn't.

Hilarious.

Yes, the show is deep. And you missed that totally. In fact, most people had no idea of what Summer was talking about.

[theChineseWASP]

My point is that whether or not the show is "deep" it's taking too long to make episodes. That was more or less the main point of this thread. What's your explanation of that? According to the clip you showed it is because the writers keep disagreeing with each other.

[Amh123]

nope. It has been always my favorite show even if some dialogues are a little complicated/confusing for me as non-native speakers of English.

[clampfan101]

I don’t think they’ve had any good ideas to begin with.

[meesegoMoo]

Well, your username says it all.

[clampfan101]

@meesegoMoo What? Me liking Clamp manga?

[meesegoMoo]

Isn't that the group that wrote xxxholic and tsubasa?

[clampfan101]

@meesegoMoo Ya. So what?

[meesegoMoo]

It shows your taste. It also shows you're incredibly patient.

[clampfan101]

@meesegoMoo Oh? I’m not sure how, but thank you. And yes, I try my best to be patient.

[purplepoppy]

Haven't heard of it

[theChineseWASP]

Do you watch TV in general?

[purplepoppy]

Yes but I haven't heard of that show

[theChineseWASP]

huh that's interesting. Thanks.

[SarahsSummer]

Never heard of that show.

[theChineseWASP]

LOL You like my question but don't know what it's about haha...

[SarahsSummer]

Nope to both.