Has feminism destroyed the movie industry for good?

[Anonymous]

The problem is there even if we sometimes chose to ignore it.

In an effort to give women some kind of "equality" that they weren't getting in movies, studios have proceeded to butcher long standing fan favorite franchises.

A simple example is Marvel, now they've done a lot lately so I won't name all the BS that happened in the name of feminism but the latest one was the new thor: it seems he will be replaced by Jane Foster, perhaps the least intersting character in to ever appear in the MCU played by the very talended Natalie Portman. Like you wanna add a female hero fine? But why do you have to remove a fan favorite hero just for being a male?
In fact if you look at the Avenger roster as it stands now women outnumber men and the numbers are still tipping in that direction.

Other franchises are suffering too, 007 is now some woman instead of James bond after some 60 years of there being one 007, John Wick is getting a spinoff called The Balerina, comedy as a gender is dead because if you remove all "objectifying joke" there's not enough left to make a movie. And on and on we go.

I understand culturally there is no going back and I am all for women having major roles but not at the expense of art we grew up watching and loving.

[k2ocon]

I'll tell you what the real problem is because I'm an actor and huge film buff myself. The approach to creating good female characters is going about the wrong way... hear me out because I actually agree with you. The two types of traditional women portrayed in the industry are this:
#1. Damsels in Distress who are only their for the main male characters and they're emotional, pathetic, and attractive.
#2. Supposedly strong, female, characters who are unstoppable, attractive yet untouchable, have no character development, and are annoying, and a lot of the time end up with the man in the end.
#2 is my personal least favorite of the two. We need original female characters, we don't need rip offs... and we certainly don't need politics added to movies unless that is it's purpose in marketing. I could name a few amazing female heroines that have been well characterized in film. Since we're talking Marvel here... Take Nebula, she's strong, independent, not necessarily what one would consider beautiful, defeatable, and she's also a very broken woman... but she perseveres. She is a well developed character in the movies. She doesn't go out of her way to put down men, and she learned to fight by herself... for herself when nobody was there to pick her up when she had fallen countless times. Then you have characters like Rey Skywalker, she's strong, unstoppable, predictable, boring, one dimensional, and there for lover boy in the end. I don't care for characters like Rey because most women in film act exactly like that.

Onto my next point. Women need to be portrayed with a balance. They can be shown as strong and powerful, but they should also have emotions, be seductive, be maternal, and possess feminine qualities. Women are not men. They simply are not and it's okay to show that. We don't have to rip off male films and shows just to prove that women can be the men. And no, women don't not have to have relationships with men, but that shouldn't prove them to be a whole person... that shouldn't define them... they can have fun and be romantic but that shouldn't have to be their purpose.

Now, in order to really show a good female character. There needs to be a strong focus on plot rather than the female nature of the character. My thought process is that films that strive for strong female characters often get too caught up in the politics and filmmakers create their characters first based on pure anger at the world. Always think about your plot first before characterizing. Always. That's where most films and shows fail in the end. And for the love of god, do not world build excessively because it will only kill your plot.

[Asker]

Yes that's exactly my reasoning behind this post, thank you for understanding the problem instead of immediately getting defensive like many have done.

All I want is good stories, be it with men or women it's not the issue but I want memorable characters with actual development

[friendzoned4life]

As a true marvel fan I am gonna say this

In the comics monica rambeau becomes captain marvel after being captain photon for a while.

With Marvels Announced I hope they kill of the current captain marvel.

Monica rambeau is a side character that allready had a lot more character development then carol danvers.

WANDAVISION SPOILER ALERT!@!@!!!@

When monica comes back from the blip first thing she discovers her mom died from cancer. We allready know from the captain marvel she is a hard one so instead of giving herself time to recover she goes out of her way to get back to work she doesn't allow herself to be emotional. When she gets blasted trough the walls of wanda's force field she can only remember the pain wanda felt still not accepting her own. It is only in the shows final when she accepts her own pain that she can convince wanda that what she is doing is wrong. Wanda went crazy after seeing her husband twice even one time by her own hand.

Only someone that lost to has the ability to get trough to her.

That is how you do strong womens So I will be happy if they skip some stuff and make her captain marvel as soon as possible the current one is Just an empty shell that blasts

[Wintergrace]

This 💯. I’m not proud when I see some “strong woman” fighting in heels who exists to be eye candy for a male oriented movie. I want to see originally female characters that have depth. Think of Scarlet Witch in the Marvel movies.

[Anonymous]

1. The movies of your youth and nostalgia will always and forever be there so there is no "ruining that." They can't retrofit your memories with feminism.
2. Hollywood and the movie industry as a whole could generally care less about actual feminism. What they care about and worship and will always care about is money. If they can make a sustainable dollar by having a female lead, they will do it. If people are paying and want to continue to pay to see female leads, they will do it. They don't care if you are upset, if there are a thousand other yous who want to see what they are making.
3. You can't pre-emptively say a franchise is suffering if there are no receipts to be had on that yet. If they make 007 with a female lead and it's a dumpster fire, that will swiftly be the end of that (see number 2). A good example is when Christian Bale stepped up to the plate to play Batman, fans went nuts screaming from the rafters that this would be another Clooney and Bat Nips type of fiasco and yet here we all are. Don't judge it, until you see it. If we did what you're doing for every film, nothing would ever get made.
4. Movies are a creative process and they don't belong to one sex over the other. There are so many spinoffs and derivative pieces and re-makes at this point in time, that this should not be such a terrifying shock to your system. I make no claims that you should or will ever like these pieces, but if you do go see them, judge them for what they are vs. "it has to be bad" because a female is now in the role a male once played.

[razelove]

More simply you could state reality, creativity is dying and suffocating because of SJWs and the woke.

You can't have a joke that doesn't offend someone, even if it's just the person telling the joke. Every winner has to have a loser, protagonist, antagonist/hero, villain. Sports are a relaxing thing that no one wants politics in. Art is a pure expression that should reflect the times an artist lives in, not be shaped in fear of such. Satire and comedy are dead, heroes are vilified, you can't do anything creative for fear of offending someone.

Look at the backlash Disney got for breaking free of the SJW paradigm with their new falcon/captain america spin. Their old story sucked, they wrote in a new one that would get ratings, involve catharsis, and a more human as opposed to idealized spin on people. People won't watch them, there is other content to watch on other platforms, or simply the source material. Sean Connery's 007 isn't going anywhere, or Austin Powers. If you remade those today, well, you simply couldn't in the US...

John Wick interests me though. The same people who would vote against guns want to see an agent of chaos operating in a world where murder and the wanton practice of it are acceptable if you simply have gold... It's better if a woman is doing it rather than Keanu for them I guess, though in that last one the dogs were more convincing actors than Halle Berry.

[Citizenkirk]

Hey, anonymous, I feel your pain, I really do. But why does everyone on this website under the age of 50 insist I'm full of 💩 when I point out that all this 🐂💩 you guys keep talking about has nothing to do with feminism, and that the warped minds that insists that it does need an ass kicking too set them straight, since open communication and historical facts don't seem too amount too squat around hear, and what about that piece of human 🚮🗑️that shadows my post just to downvote every positive thing I ever say about real feminism and the history of it's social movement in promoting public awareness of a

this crap? Huh, you think this is O. K? You sick fucks? This is what happens too woman who don't get down the thier knees and kiss some chauvinistic pricks feet! All because she had the audacity to want something that was so far out of her reach, like being able to vote, or being allowed to go somewhere without a man escorting her, and heavan forbid, she should actually want to own a piece of land, I don't know, stomp the s*** out of that b**** and make sure she understands "you don't get to own things, you don't get to say things, you don't get to do things, except what you're told!"

As far as your criticism of what a comic book franchise did in the name of feminism, leave feminism out of it. True feminist deserve better than that.

[Asker]

These are horrific scenes and nobody's saying otherwise but crimes that happened a thousand years ago are not reason enough for it is happening now.

The fact is current generation respects men and women alike not always well but always alike these things are a dark history but they don't justify what's happening in the movie industry the lack of art for the sake of represention is not solving social issues it's tricking people out of their money.

[Citizenkirk]

I am unable to see how the equal rights movement I was raised in, has anything to do with a commercial determination to make changes to thier intelectual property to accommodate perceived market trends within their industry. You should keep in mind that I do not recognize the vile, unwarranted rhetoric you often hear on social media as having any legitimate connection with the feminist movement. Like any other equal rights movement that's been distorted into something unsavory to achieve personal or financial social agendas, the feminist movement has been the victim of fraudulent representation by people who have no interest in equal rights, and should not be taken seriously by people who think that they're hearing something unethical in the rhetoric of these people, because if it does sound unethical, than it probably is. Such rhetoric should not be assumed as the point of view of those people who started up those movements. Martin Luther King attempted to open people's eyes to the unfortunate consequences of racial bigotry toward African Americans, but people like Malcolm x tried to incite a militant attitude of hatred towards non-African-Americans as it means of retaliation against that bigotry, basically trying to use hatred to fight hatred. The Reverend Martin Luther King, understood that was not a way to get rid of hatred. You don't fight fire with fire, because you only get more fire.

[CaptainOverthink]

I am for them making an effort, but instead of changing things as they are doing it now, they should get some new franchices and movies going instead of meddling with pop-opinions.
Make something new, more refined so it doesn't seem so forced and unnatural.

As it is now (and has been for longer than feminism was popular), general opinion sometimes affect artists in their creative processes (as long as there is money in it).

And it's has had bad effects on franchices and movies across the board. I am talking about people (producers, sponsors, editors) outside the creative process coming in and making twists in storylines based on what is proven to sell better.
Like forcing a scene in a movie to have a catch-phrase in a sort of cheesy way to incite people to laugh because everytging 'have to' be funny to please a larger audience.

It's like someone coming up to Picasso and be like "Ey Picasso, you what would be good? Lets change this and that to fit this format we would like you to make".
I mean what is the point being creative and have a vision about how something should be if you won't have control of the project to reach that vision.

The problem isn't feminism or any ideology, it's that people are meddling in art-based-media that aren't the creative drivers behind the franchices in the first place. They are the moneymakers that tells the artists, the writers where the frame begins and ends, what their limitations are.

The exception would be where the artists themselves let social media get to them, they listen more to the negative comments than the positive and change their vision to not get shit, shit they get either way because there will always be negative opinions.

Write some good storylines where women and equality can shine on it's own two human legs.

Let art be strange and twisted, stop putting filters on it.

[Xitomyth]

Just a note, Jane becoming the next Thor is actually in the comics after Thor "dies" (I'm not a comics expert, but I check up on them before the new movies to get an idea of what might happen), but how they do it in the films will likely be more political...

Nothing in Hollywood is original these days, and originality was scarce to begin with! It's one thing to create a new take on a story, like the many iterations of Batman and Superman, or to do reboot like the Lone Ranger (which I liked) or Total Recall. Most of us don't mind female leads or centered stories, but when it is shove in our faces and forced down our throats, it ruins the story. Take Mad Max: Fury Road, it was about Furiosa, not Max, and in my opinion it was horrible. It wasn't Mad Max. Granted, I am interested in the side story it set up. We get it, women can be heroes, villains, badass, etc. That was well established more than a decade ago. However, what they show now seems unrealistic to me, most women want to be treated like equals but also as woman, they want to be wives and mothers, that doesn't mean that they are oppressed or indoctrinated, just means they have more traditional values. If a movie production company or produce want a feminine protagonist/lead, that's fine, but don't be political about it and don't demean the men or portray them as stupid nor sexist. Everyone is there own person, and therefore not the same in all cases. Are there sexist and stupid guys out there? Yes! So are some women, but people of the same gender are not the same in thought nor personality. Also, it seems that the old classics that most people love are being attacked. They went after Dr. Seuss books, now they're going after Snow White...

So yes, feminism has destroyed the industry, though not as a whole nor for good, not yet at least... It has also destroyed chivalry and gentlemen.

[Wintergrace]

I completely agree with you. I am not completely fragile, but I am not a man. I enjoy representation of my gender, but people are replacing any good stories with a female lead.

[Asker]

Thank you! It's the point I was unable to get across. It's that I would love for women to be the lead in decent stories but right now stories are trash because they are forcibly trying to overpower women without any decent development.

[HamburgerFries]

Terminator Dark Fate. It was political. And they messed it up. They killed off John Connor. And that put the final nail in the coffin. I can't believe they're going to be making a seventh 😂🤣😂🤣🤣

[Xitomyth]

@HamburgerFries
Holly cash grab never fails lol They'll milk ANYTHING these days for money...

[Xitomyth]

@Wintergrace
Exactly! I have female friends who are strong of character ( and some of muscle...) but they really just want to be women, they only cause trouble when trouble is caused for them. I also have female ( and male) friends who are horribly fragile, but neither is the whole picture, each gender is a mixed bag. Some women are heroes, others are just normal people who freak out under extreme circumstances. If they want a female lead, make the story flow naturally, like was she this way as a kid? Did she experience something that changed her in a fundamental way? Was she given super powers randomly? I love a good story, but a good story is always thought out and has character depth. The characters grow and evolve, for better or worse, and earn their way. I hate being cliché, but this a really good example, take the women from the anime Naruto, and it's later installments, the mother's of the main characters and several others were ninjas (shinobi) themselves before getting married. Most gave it up to be wives and mothers and partially to ensure that their kids would always have a parent if one died due their duties to the village. Just because a woman is wife and mother, doesn't mean that they are weak, it simply means that chose to be a mother.

[Xitomyth]

You're welcome! It's not just what you say, but how you say it. Context, tone, the actual words themselves are create what people will perceive.

[TurboKid]

I encountered some interesting YT vids on this and they explained the phenomena with far better conjectures than I could think up, but the fingers were pointed to SJWs more than feminists. The idea proposed that I found fascinating is the idea that an SJW doesn't understand what a hero is. It's like you're a hero among them for being proud to be obese or just being homosexual. They don't understand competence. They don't understand skill, talent, discipline, practice. They think they are special just because of the way they are born, or the things that happened to them without any conscious effort.

And so they can't actually create such interesting protags or antags or plots, because they don't understand the notion of the hero's journey, or how hard it is to become good at things, or anything of this sort.

[Asker]

This sounds interesting could you send some links if you have any?

[TurboKid]

I'm afraid I forgot the precise vids that discussed this although the context was with respect to some of the really heavy-handed super woke comic books like New Warriors and I Am Not Starfire.

[DJB72]

Butchered franchises like Ghostbusters and the rewrites of previously successful movies to replace male characters with female like "What Men Want" (hint, originality) has nothing to do with feminism.

Look at the historical roots and feminism was never about replacing men or doing away with gender specific roles. It was about recognition that women and men were equals. The Suffragette movement even suspended their campaign for equality from 1914 to 1918 so they could stay home and support their husbands, brothers and sons during the war and then used their wartime actions to demonstrate how women's roles were essential and equal.

What passes as feminism these days is anti-male sexism at its highest. That doesn't just ruin the movie industry, but every industry.

[FlutteringFeelings]

People are way too sensitive than they were a few years ago. Movies like ‘White Chicks’ would receive so much backlash and wouldn’t succeed in today’s age because everything made in movies now is to protect someone else’s feelings. I’m the youngest out of my siblings and I was introduced to the interesting films they had a while back and I’m better of watching them than anything that is made now.


The only movie that I found interest in watching and paying for in the theaters were ‘Madea’s funeral’ and ‘Black Panther’.

[FlutteringFeelings]

(In general statement)

[JamesRandiDebates]

"White Chicks" could still be made today. It would still flop, but it could be made. White people (even females) are allowed to be targets of ridicule by any other race. Now, everse the races and have 2 white guys dressing up as black females and the world would come screeching to a halt in indignation.

[FlutteringFeelings]

You forgot about black face? As if black females weren’t already the center of jokes since the beginning of time. Save the argument for someone else. Feel free to disagree but I’m not debating as to why you should believe in my statement.

[JamesRandiDebates]

Black face hasn't been done for about 75 years

[FlutteringFeelings]

😂😂 goodbye. Enjoy the rest of your day.

[normalice]

Movie industry still exists, so in doubt it. Entertainments are one of those "the market will decide" things. If most people get tired of the blunt force feminism and stop paying to see it, they'll stop writing it. But the fact that it continues to make money says the people who are upset about it aren't as numerous as they'd like to believe. It's the "loud minority" effect, where only those with a complaint do any talking, which makes those doing the complaining think they must be in he majority.

[MarkRet]

Feminism is just one part of the problem. The Ghostbuster remake was pathetic and disgusting. Same thing with Ocean’s 8. I don’t think either of them went anywhere. What’s really killing the movie industry are the studio suits fear of taking chances or trying anything new, so they do reboots and sequels of movies that have a proven track record. The reason? The studio execs have to make lots of money to keep their shareholders happy. If the shareholders aren’t happy with the profits, those execs are out the door. That’s what’s destroying the movie industry.

[Breanna_nonbinary]

Feminism in movies has nothing to do with leading roles. It has to do with not pandering to the toxic masculinity. Female roles in movies tend to be the “damsel in distress” roles. Women want roles that don’t make them look helpless without a man. Equality in acting roles means that girls don’t see females that are dependent on men.
A great example of this can be seen in Disney movies. The female role of Cinderella vs Tiana from the frog princess are very different. In Star Wars they make it a point to tell the audience Rey doesn’t need Finn to rescue her.
If anything the movie industry is finally realizing the influence it has on society and is making movies that younger audiences want to see. Movies that reflect a socially responsible message. If you think it’s ruining the movie industry then you and other “gamergate” males should reevaluate the antiquated thinking that is typical of toxic masculinity.

[Nachowedgie]

I'm sure most people are all for good female characters that are well written and actually have character to them. What people have a problem with are male characters/male lead franchises being hijacked and swapped out to dull/bland female characters all in the name of gender equality. If you want to make a new original character for a new original story then sure go right ahead but don't put female characters in where male characters go just because she has a vagina

[Breanna_nonbinary]

@Nachowedgie You mean like Sigourney weaver in Alien? A role originally meant for a male. There are quite a few other characters that started out as male but are just better as females. Check it out.

[Nachowedgie]

No, I mean roles like Doctor Who and James Bond

[DiscomfortZone]

Wow, how stupid could you be? Which MCU female roles were "damsel in distress"? Name three. In return I'll nsme you some badass female roles without whom the world would be destroyed...

[Alpha09]

No I don't think for good. However major names in the industry are buying into this "untouchable feminist know it all" narrative that I can't fucking stand. Captain marvel for example was super annoying, and replacing thor with Jane foster is a terrible idea in my opinion. The replacement doesn't change how one demential and unrealistic the female character usually ends up being. One film I really enjoyed was atomic blonde, it just felt genuine. The main character actually got beat up, which was refreshing because if you watch some action movies, the main female character miraculously comes out of a gritty fight with barely a scratch. And/or they never take good advice from men, simply because they are men. If that's what "feminist" films are supposed to be I don't want it. It's a mockery at that point.

[Alpha09]

I think working on character development and better writing should be priority, and base franchises off of new female characters. I don't really care to see a female spinoff of Thor myself, I like the original Thor. Doing this whole "we have to make it feminist" doesn't really do anything. Yeet that and focus on making female characters real and believable. Make them smart, confident, broken, strong, dangerous, weak, cocky, humble, funny etc.

[snackthatsmilesback]

Well with Jane Foster, you think maybe she'd be more interesting if they made female characters as good as male ones? So that's on the writers in the first place, not feminism calling attention to it. And I think Thors contract would be up anyway wouldn't it? Isn't that why Cap and other left?

Anyway there's definitely cases where feminism is fucking the movue industry but there's also cases where they pointed out some actual issues with it. Unfortunately it seems often like a toss up of which one. And of course they aren't the only thing fucking the industry either.

[HamburgerFries]

Yes. Men and women are different. They can never be our equal. Instead of trying to copy men (and failing badly) use your strengths and stop trying to be men.

Look at the all female Ghostbusters. It bombed badly. Not because they are all female but because they copied what was already done and it didn't succeed because it was a "look at me I can do it too" movie. They made it just for the sake of it to show that women can do it just as well as men. Except they can't. Just because you can do something too doesn't mean you should.

And look at Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn). They told us white guys not to watch it. So we didn't. I don't know about other guys but I had zero interest in seeing it at all. Then they get upset because it didn't do too well and they blamed guys for that. It didn't need to be made to begin with. Don't blame guys. We have no interest in bland uninspiring movies.

[Asker]

"Look at me I can do it too" should be a category on Netflix and other streaming platforms. You hit the nail on the head there.

And I completely agree with the birds of prey example I too was told it's a movie made induce serotonin and for women only and so I skipped it even though I'm a big fan of Batman and his universe and I watched suicide squad and loved Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn even that wasn't enough to get me to watch a movie with a pointless story and no added value made only by women for women

[HamburgerFries]

Yea same. I'm a huge Batman fan. Harley Quinn is a good character. But I only like her because she tried to help Arthur (The Joker). And he made her go insane just like he is. When I saw the trailer for it I was like lol. Are they serious with this trash? And then I saw the reviews and laughed even more 🤣😂🤣😂😂

[CharlesDaniel]

You are a loser manchild.

[CharlesDaniel]

Manchild cry. Not fact.

[CharlesDaniel]

Oh manchild you are very dork.

[HamburgerFries]

@CharlesDaniel ok simp

[K-I-S-S]

It's no problem.

Some characters will be ruined, some will get better or as an interesting twist as how it would look with the opposite gender.

Changing genders or race or etc just to make things more equal opportunity is not good.

Cast around the story, all male, all women, all same race or all mixed up like a fruity loops bag whatever, as long as it is done for the right reason, to tell a story.

People also get emotionally attached to some type of actor or actress playing a role. And would really like to see them have more adventures.

Even changing actors or actresses with the same gender and race tends to ruin the familiarity. Some do actually fill the role better, it's not all black and white outcomes.

Just vote with your wallet.

[Anonymous]

MCU is a terrible example when most of those female characters have been in the comics for decades. But ignoring that, it's still not a great argument. Other movies still exist. Sometimes you have to accept that there are other people in the world and not everything is meant for you, specifically. Sometimes the world doesn't revolve around you as an individual and you can't always be the center of attention.

If you like the old movies, cool. They still exist. They'll always be there and no one can ever take them away. They aren't ruined and can't be ruined because they already exist. They're now just getting new fans, which is great for an industry that can now grow because new people are coming in to it.

[MasterOfReality]

Liberalism period has ruined entertainment of all kinds. To the Left, ALL life is politics and an opportunity to shove their beliefs down everyone’s throats. It started in music and I ignored it. Even though the genre I like tends to lean to the right (METAL), there are a few knuckle heads who have to spout off their idiot beliefs. And now we have sports and the entertainment awards ceremonies. Of which viewership has declined each year precisely because they can’t just play ball or accept an award and thank their family, agent and God.
Get woke, go broke. That my motto.

[Zelda_5]

The Marvel thing is not a problem. Nobody batted an eye when it was mostly men. I don't like them trying to remake all the old movies with female leads though, they just need to make female characters that are people and have lives, with some female leads.

[Tyrael]

It's not just feminism, there's the SJWs, cancel culture, the PC brigade and others all trying to have their way. And it's all about censorship and inclusivity at all costs.

Decent comedy movies are few and far between now, because they're worried they'll offend someone.

[zed-789]

Personally I don’t care. If they decide to do a movie that Batman is a woman it’s whatever to me simply because they can never change the past. That one female Batman movie won’t erase the existence of all the past movies. Plus Batman isn’t real. He’s fictional. Now if they started taking documentaries of great men and replaced them with females now that would be some bullshit to raise hell over because u can’t just create a female Martin Luther king.

[Asker]

Missed the perfect opportunity to say Martin Luther Queen 😊

[zed-789]

Damn it. Once time machines r invented this is going to be on my list of things to go back in time and change 😂

[K-I-S-S]

The movie "The aeronauts" is inspired on an historic flight. The movie has a male lead James Glaisher and a female lead Amelia Wren. Of course the female role is the heroic saviour of the male actor and etc.

In actuallity there were 2 guys. James Glaisher and Henry Coxwell. Henry is played by a woman, with a different name, Amelia. A totally made up character, but did exactly what Henry did in real life. To save his own and James life.

He got no credit in the movie, and most people who see it won't look it up to see it was Henry. And believe that this is the way it was.

I have problem with these kinds of films.

[Asker]

Whoever made thag should be charged with fraud on some level. Or false advertisement or whatever the law allows like seriously? They thought they can get away with changing the gendre of a "real" person. If I'm ever famous enough to earn a film I would turn over in my grave if I was portraied by someone who's not from my gendre or race or weight class

[RationalMale]

Marvel is dying, it's just a matter of time until the cancer grows enough to consume it. Perhaps look at it as a blessing--you can spend more time on things that matter.

[Asker]

Well it's not like I have my life on hold waiting for marvel films 🙃. But you make a valid point it's not getting any better unless a new ideology is adopted and that's not gonna happen

[DaisyM23]

I swear thor 4 is just him with guardians of the galaxy? Plus superheroes that are women are cool and becoming more popular as they appeal to young girls and shit and are icons
I don’t really watch james bond so I don’t care if it’s an actress but I understand why people are annoyed and i do get stuff getting a female twist is pissing people off

[hi_it_is_me123]

Can you all stop blamimg every shit on feminism. Go blame the media or you retarted government that use feminism, lbgt, and other movements for their own idealogy and hide themself behind these movements in order to to seem good. Are you that stupid to understand that?

[hi_it_is_me123]

We should take all the women or opressed people from third countries and send people like you with luxus problems to these shithole countries so you can have real problems to talk about. Go make your own movie then. I dont give a f about these moviese. I am just done people with entitlement

[hi_it_is_me123]

People are literally get killed for leaving a religion or women get raped in prison for not wearing hijab and feminists like me trying to speak about this and retarted people like complain about movies. Go get better problems.

[Asker]

Yeah maybe but to me you'd be sending me back since I come from a third world country 🙃

[hi_it_is_me123]

You are a man. Men are less opressed than women in these shithole countries except you are a a apostate or homosexual

[Asker]

No I'm straight and let me tell you oppression reaches even men. And I do agree that entitlement is a problem but that's the other extreme, there has to be a middle ground where movies can include everyone but still be decent

[hi_it_is_me123]

I agree that the stories of marvel or so on should not be changed for any idealogy but again this has nothing to do with feminism. Feminism, lbgt, or so on is misused by the liberal government for their own purpose. They dont give a f about womenrights, lbgt rights, or any minority rights. This liberal government control the hollywood too. A hollywood stars have to agree with the left wings, otherwise they are kicked off. Decades ago Hollywood or so on was very conservative and religions/conservative values or whatever was used for their own purpose but now they change themself in 180 degrees. In the past they hide themself behind conservative values/ideas and now they hide themself behind liberal idealogies. This is my observation. Maybe i am wrong. Which country or which religion do you have? Sorry for asking but i am curious

[SweetPeanutbutter]

These little boymen are women haters. No use arguing with them because everything that uplifts a woman in any way is seen as wrong because thats how they get any self worth... They are arrogant. Just ignore tem