Do you consider it racist to cast black actors as villains and bullies in films?

[SolitarySolace]

Tim Burton’s ‘Wednesday’ called ‘racist’ for casting black actors as bullies - nypost.com/.../

Yes, it is racist

No, that is ridiculous

[FunkyMonkee]

Why is it okay to cast white people but not any other race?
I'm just thinking, i have every episode of Columbo and I don't recall ever seeing anyone but white people being portrayed as the murderer, except the one Sal Mineo episode there one Arabian guy killed a few others, and the Billy Connolly episode where a Scotsman killed one of his underlings. Almost every black guy in the series was either a cop, a detective or just a bit part actor helping out for a moment. I may be wrong and plan to watch every episode again in the very near future so, I'll find out then.
I just finished watching every episode of "I Spy" and that's LOADED with bad guys of various races but, that's because the show was based in about a dozen different countries!!

[MCheetah]

No, I'm not a woke idiot and bad guys have no one race.

And yes, I saw this story making the rounds this week. These idiots complaining should be ignored.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/FaygiFx-Jq0

[WonderBell99]

No, Bianca was NEVER the "villain", she literally saved Wednesday's life at the end of the series. She was portrayed as a popular girl with a difficult and an overbearing mother. The real villain was Laurel and her family... who were all white. Even Tyler, who was The Hyde (he killed a lot of people) was white. Although Bianca was rude to Wednesday and a lot more people, I feel like she had a wonderful character development towards the end.

It depends on the context, but in reference to this, no. I do not think this is racist.

[WonderBell99]

This as in, the series "Wednesday"

[DevikaButts95]

Not necessarily, although context can always change that.
It's more racist to be unable to cast actors of a race as ANY certain type of character, like a villain. Some people are villains, so to say a certain race is incapable of playing the villain indicates to me that people don't think of that race as people.

[WilliamPamer446]

Yeah, what if a black person wants to play a villain because thats there talent as acting in a villain role or black people wanna see someone who looks like them in a villain role. You can make black people any type of character, hero, anti hero, villain, anti villain, in any type of film genre. You dont have to stereotype them as bad or even as always good. So having them as any type of character and not stereotyping is the best option I think.

[WilliamPamer446]

Prowler is an anti villain, Spider-Man Miles Morales uncle. he's a great character. And There is great anti heroes like Blade and Omar Little, and there is great heroes like Black Panther, Miles Morales and Cyborg.

[joeldalton]

When everything is racist, nothing is racist.

[AmyHew1tt]

Villians are some of the best characters ever. And anyway, no. It's just people wanting something else to complain about and make themselves heroes for noticing. The fact that people are going to be upset about that and not when historical white people's roles are given to POC drives me a little insane.

[BeMuse]

It's a film role. If you don't want to play the role, then don't audition for it. Someone is offering Black people jobs and an opportunity to build a career in acting. Somehow woke commies turn that into racism. Bunch of retards. Obviously Blacks want the roles and try hard to get them or the role would never be filled to begin with.

[BeMuse]

It's interesting how the woke are trying to self-segregate themselves out of movies and other product promotions.

[BeMuse]

It's like how the BLM burnt down Black owned small businesses during their Soros funded riots and how they helped to rig elections to get communist governments into power, which now use the police force to put Black small business owners out of business. Some groups are so stupid, they don't see how they are being manipulated into destroying themselves.

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[PhenomenalQueen]

Have you ever noticed that in almost EVERY movie/script that doesn’t include Blacks, when they finally put them, their roles are to feel less than others? Or their roles are made to be casted in a negative perspective?

[joeldalton]

lol, no. You don't watch a lot of movies, do you?

[PhenomenalQueen]

Yea they do… it’s always in a negative light… and they’ll use reverse psychology to make them seem like a hero… 🤷🏾‍♀️. A good example is John Q..

[joeldalton]

You're mentally ill, clearly. Have you ever watched a mafia movie?

[PhenomenalQueen]

Nice gaslighting. 👍🏾

[joeldalton]

It's not gaslighting when you're completely off your rocker. I'll ask again, have you ever watched a Mafia movie?

[PhenomenalQueen]

Yes I have, and I proved my point.. The darker people and or “minorities” are ALWAYS shown in a negative view.

[joeldalton]

No, you didn't. You cherry-picked one movie where the character was an anti-hero and black. Anti-heroes are tropes in movies, played by all races. Or are you claiming that no black person can ever be in a movie unless they're black panther?

[PhenomenalQueen]

We all show how the people who it doesn’t benefit to be anti racist cried when there was a Black superhero movie.. Just like when Ariel was Black. 😂

[PhenomenalQueen]

Saw***

[joeldalton]

nobody cried when there was a black superhero movie. It got a sequel and made millions of dollars.

[PhenomenalQueen]

I literally just told you.. They all show us in a negative prospective.. You don’t seriously expect me to sit here and name thousands of movies, just for you to gaslight like you keep doing.

[joeldalton]

I expect you to provide evidence other than your bullshit claim because you have some victim complex.

[PhenomenalQueen]

Yes they did… LMAO “ohh an entire month wasn’t enough for YOU people” “now you have to take the super hero movies too” “that character wasn’t made to be Black” okayyy so we did our own thing and they were still crying about it… don’t sit up here and lie pretending like you knew nothing about it. You weren’t living under a rock.. Go on TikTok and read the comments from Black panther. 👍🏾

[joeldalton]

why would I go on a chinese spy app to read nonsense by teenagers? You clearly have some woe-is-me victim mentality and only see the world through the lens of race. You don't live in the real world. Your brain is polluted.

[PhenomenalQueen]

LMAO those people LITERALLY invented racism and now that is no longer allowed to spin in their favor, I’m the one who’s mentally I’ll? 😭 LMAO what an absolute joke.. lack of accountability and you see what’s happening in front of you, yet you pretend it’s nonexistent.

[joeldalton]

Right because it is nonexistent. For your one example of a black anti-hero, I could easily produce 50 examples of a white anti-hero.

[PhenomenalQueen]

And it’s funny that ONLY that specific group calls TikTok a spy app.. why? Because on that app they literally expose the truth and educate people on it.. there’s a reason why they’re fighting so hard to take out the little they have on slavery.. why don’t we talk about the genocide that actually happened in the excluded communities? Because it doesn’t benefit this country.. that’s why they ALWAYS portray Blacks in a negative view.. that’s how they profit.

[PhenomenalQueen]

But the difference being, when that specific group is shown to be a villain, it’s accepted.. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[joeldalton]

Oh, you're a full-blown conspiracy theorist, lol.

[PhenomenalQueen]

Nope. The truth is out there, we’re just too used to doing what we’re told instead of being independent and searching for the answers ourselves. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[joeldalton]

So you choose to live as a perpetual victim.

[PhenomenalQueen]

I’ve never been a victim

[joeldalton]

You're claiming you're a victim of big meanie movie directors and people who hate tiktok.,, lol.

[BeMuse]

You mean like Axel Foley who gets treated like a super cop, where as his White cop pals in the Beverly Hills P. D. get casts as dumb naive rookies that can't do their job and of course all the criminals are White.

[BeMuse]

So full of shit.

[joeldalton]

Bemuse, don't be a punk ass and unblock me if you have something to say to me.

[PhenomenalQueen]

People don’t hate TikTok only yours. 😂 and Black people aren’t victims.. we’re not treated equally.. how is there equality?

[PhenomenalQueen]

That’s only one movie compared to THOUSANDS OF THE OPPOSITE. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[PhenomenalQueen]

& it doesn’t count when the people who directed are the same race..

[BeMuse]

@joeldalton I wasn't talking to you dumb ass. You didn't see your name tagged right? That's just your narcissism wishing you were important and your low self-esteem speaking loser.

[BeMuse]

Only movie huh? White Men Can't Jump (1992)
Devil in a Blue Dress (1995)
Man on Fire (2004)

You're up to your eyeballs in shit.

[PhenomenalQueen]

Like I told the other guy, you know exactly what I’m talking about… I am not about to sit here and type thousands of movies out.

[joeldalton]

ANyone who knows anything about the CCP and technology hate TikTok, lol. You are treated equally. You’ve expressed it clearly that anything other than a super clean hero should not be played by a black man or woman otherwise it’s everyone being mean to you.

[PhenomenalQueen]

Nope.. YOUR people are the ones who said that.. y’all cry about everything and try to flip it on us.. 😂 that’s why just like back in the day, you hide behind fake profiles. Still got that KKK thing going.. cowards

[PhenomenalQueen]

You can report me all you want. 😂

[joeldalton]

Lmao. No, you said that in your original reply

Have you ever noticed that in almost EVERY movie/script that doesn’t include Blacks, when they finally put them, their roles are to feel less than others? Or their roles are made to be casted in a negative perspective?

[PhenomenalQueen]

Where’s the lie? 🤔

[joeldalton]

You just said you didn’t make that statement.

[BeMuse]

Fallen (1998)
Crimson Tide (1995)
I, Robot (2004)
Pursuit of Happyness (2006)
Men In Black (1997)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHZuLMFfriQ

[PhenomenalQueen]

Tell muse to stop responding, I cannot see what he said cuz he’s a crybaby and reported me. I’m guessing that automatically blocks you. 😂

[BeMuse]

Seems to me that you just watch degenerate ghetto movies that portray Blacks as criminals and drug addicts because that's what is entertaining to you. There are hundreds of movies where the Black guy is the hero and is cast in a strong lead that saves the day. You just can't think of them because you don't like strong competent Black men. You like characters like Pookie that will suck your dick for a a five rock.

[joeldalton]

@PhenomenalQueen yeah, he's a big pussy.

[Msputiton]

I did find it weird that. Tim burton who did not cast any black people.

Then when asked said they don't fit my astetic.

Now he casts 3 or 4 with speaking roles and all of them were mean hateful and petty

[HighValue]

No. What actually IS racist though is taking an established character and replacing them with another race.

[SolitarySolace]

Or gender

[Sparks32]

If the person being played was historicaly white or was a fictional character set in a white country it is racist to replace him or her with a POC.

[MrHopper]

Who are the "people" who are the "critics". Very bad lazy journalism, probably spent 5 seconds on twitter and decided that was their job done for the day.

[exitseven]

If the movie takes place in the inner city it would be okay to cast black people as bad guys. If it was in an all white town it could be considered racist. I think that art should imitate life.

[Chazmatazz269]

There were also white bullies and the “big bad” in the end is a white man. Snowflakes are ridiculous with they’re misinformation and manufactured outrage.

[WilliamPamer446]

They always need a Good Black Guy, Good Girl of any race and Bad White Guy main villains. And if a black person is an antihero, there like the most noble of all antiheroes.

[WilliamPamer446]

Any bad thing a black character does is the fault of a white person brainwashing them or them in a bad situation. So they can maybe be an anti villain at best.

But white guys gotta be villains of there own choices and volitins, or an arrogant hero character

[WilliamPamer446]

Which I disagree with, you dont assign race to character or hero or villain types.

[Multi_personality]

I didn't see it like that. I was a bit confused about the raining scene but didn't take much of since other shows have done similar things- thought it was a funny moment for a serious scene...

[DaisyM23]

I mean not really? Unless there's a point of saying how they're a villain/bully because they're black... but if it's just generally then no

[KostasKouvalis]

I don't think so. It's no different than casting Russians, Italians or Mexicans as villains. Maybe it's perpetuating racial stereotypes, but it's not like they pulled this stuff out of thin air. Their basing their films off real ganhgs

[WildCard42]

No, considering that every major horror movie I watched growing up had a White man as the killer (Bad guy).

[KlinkyCoder]

This is pretty silly. I mean, should we be paranoid about who we cast in movies because the bully or villain may just happen to be a black person? This would be like me getting upset over someone with hazel eyes portraying a villain or bully.

[WilliamPamer446]

No its not. Its only ridiculous if you do that in ALL of your movies, and you say that that has something to do with being black or stereotype

[Adaeva]

If blacks are going to complain, the solution is to not have any black actors.

[Crowferret]

Jesus, you're 14, no wonder

[Adaeva]

@Crowferret If you don't like movie, don't watch it. Problem solved.

[Crowferret]

No stupid, the solution is have the black characters in a better light, not remove them all together. Go back to playing house, grown-ups are talking.

[Adaeva]

@Crowferret False! The purpose is to sell movies and make a profit not to rewrite movies to please this group or that group.

[Crowferret]

Oh but removing black people entirely isn't rewriting? Hypocrite. Plus I never said that the whole show has to be rewritten, what's done is done, their has to be balance. You don't even know how to debate or come up with good solutions. This is why children need to stay in their lane because you don't know what you're talking about, thinking you're equal with us.

[Adaeva]

@Crowferret Not so. Instead, I think I'm superior to you.

[Crowferret]

Of course the racist idiot thinks she's superior.

[inhua]

no. villains have always been more fascinating characters than heroes.

[Kaneki05]

The actor of Wednesday is literally Mexican so... racist I think not.

[TheSpaceGnome]

No, any race can be a bully/villian. It's racist to assume only certain races can produce assholes.

[Subarugirl]

What are you talking about? She wasn't a villain, she was a complex character that was not portrayed as a villain, rather the IT girl..

[Cubus]

Would that be fair if Black people were only casted in positive roles and White and Asian people were the only one who could play bad roles?

[Dinosaursandanime65]

That’s only valid if literally every show and movie is doing that. If it’s just some and it’s random then no

[Twalli]

In Luke Cage, the main villain (s) are black, at least in Season I. He's also black, but I don't think it's racist making the villains black.

[LiamJHayden]

Unless the theme is "blacks are villains" then no.

[BCRanger10]

No. That's ridiculous.

[loveslongnails]

That's totally ludicrous.

[moonpie89]

I've never analyzed it like that

[boggboss]

Nope sounds stupid

[CoolCatMar1]

It isn't