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When did body shaming skinny women by other women become OK? (Page 2)
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If people could just not body shame anyone that’d be great
It would, wouldn’t it. But sadly western society was built on degrading and stealing from others, and that does t seem likely to change any time soon.
Telling someone, that they are overweight or underweight has nothing to do with "shaming".
It should not be "prohibited", to inform someone of their unhealthy lifestyle.
If someome is overweight or underweight they are awere to it from there its their choice what to do with their bodies.
If someone wanted a medical advice they should go to the doctor, its not society's role to decide if someone is healthy or not
Disagree.
I have been fat my whole life, its just lately that I changed my life and lost 80 pounds in the last 2 years.
I did know that I was fat, I just did not care.
If people would have "reminded" me more often, I would have started this 15 years earlier, would have made things a lot easier.
I have been fat my whole life and lost 40lbs as well, I did it because I want to be healthier. Not because I want to please people if you do it just to please people then its not worth it.
Everyone knows what are the cons of being fat but I guess this is the diffrence between men and women as society is more accepting towards men
@Smiley_face101 It's absolutely not certain that they know. Most models and such live in a world where they can think they're fat as hell as long as we can't see their ribs...
@Clarke498 Which is why people should just stop body shamig others
@Smiley_face101 No, it's why we need to help people realize their problems.
@Smiley_face101 "Everyone knows what are the cons of being fat but I guess this is the diffrence between men and women as society is more accepting towards men"
LOL! Please feel free to womensplain my experience as a man. Obviously you as a woman must know more about being a man than you know.. actual men.
Oh my god.
My best guy friend is fat.
Both of us were in a relationship. His fit and skinny girlfriend worships the ground he steps on. My lanky lack of muscles ex boyfriend body shamed me and degraded me for being fat. While losing weight.
Now explain that to me
@Smiley_face101
Lol guys get body shamed all the time. Only difference nobody gives a shit. Nobody cares about something till it happens to women.
And guys generally dont complain about body shaming especially since we know no one really cares.
Also, when women do get body shamed, it is mostly by other women
Just read my take on fat shaming. I was fat shamed by my ex boyfriend while losing weight...
i don't know. but can we please talk about how they changed pant sizes so now 0 is 3 sizes higher than it was 8 years ago. I've had to switch to 00's Dx and the 32 band at victoria secret increased in width so their not true 32s
I don't agree with the question in the first place sweety. It was never ok and it will never be ok. Any form of shaming in general is wrong and it doesn't become okay just because some people tolerate the intolerable.
people are fighting for a perfection that doesn't exist, just live life, do what you want and be happy.
No type of body-shaming should be okay.
xx
~ Mrs Manson
Peoples will always find a way to judge you. A lot of women dye their hair blonds and yet they claim that bombshell blondies are stupid. The only thing the bashed peoples should feel ashamed about is to care about what other peoples think
Never understood why women are sooo critical of their own gender. In some ways they stick together like glue. Maybe its a competitive thing...
Um... anyone who tells a thin person to get fat is just insecure and jealous (probably) and stupid. So...
Women tearing each other down is nothing new. It has been going on since before recorded history.
Humans are naturally competitive.
It’s needs to stop. It’s ridiculous.
It is not okay.
It is fat bitches bitching because they are jealous of slender women, who self-evidently have greater food and exercise discipline than the land whales.
it was never ok and never will be but the recent trend seems to have escalated at the same rate of obesity has grown
Since the dawn of time, women had always been the main rivals of other women, despite what Anita Sarkeesian has told you, the "don't hit a girl" rule don't apply to cat fights. 🙂
I 100% agree. The other day I was rereading some old messages between me and my friends from when I was a teenager, and I was SO insecure about my small stature (including how thin I was/am).
When we started telling obese fat bitches that they were queens, special and the most beautiful thing in the world knowing full well it was a goddamn LIE.
And now some of them are actually believing it and walking around like they're God's gift 😫
This is because fat or not and everything in between, WE ARE. You, me, and everyone around.
@123_nei no you're not. You might be a queen to someone, but it's not up to society to kiss your feet and tell you you're a Queen. Unless you have royal blood you aren't one. That's the reality- sorry.
What ever happened to earning respect? Working for what you want instead of demanding that society tells you you're this and that. None of us are kings or princes or queens and princesses. We are normal people that needs to live our lives and then eventually die. While we are alive we learn to earn respect and work for what we want in life.
You didn’t understand my statement. Sorry reality had to kick you hard in the ass.
@123_nei ok. Care to explain? Instead of telling me "Reality has kicked me hard in the ass" when my ass is perfectly untouched.
I don't know what you guys are talking about but people still fat shaming in other parts of the world. And I believes that obese people are told that they are queens is to build their confidence. Their are trying to tell people that your appearance doesn't represent who you are on the inside. Ok, I'm an obese girl and I don't like people tell me I'm a queen or something. I'm confidence in many areas such as life, work, activity. In those times, you're probably seeing me as a confident person or whatsoever. But when it comes to love, I have zero confidence at all. Because it this god-damned world, guys love girls like a Barbie doll or big boobs and small body that kind of shit. And I'm not one of those and I never will. Mind you, it's hard to lose weight and most of us don't want that. I'm not here just to defend fat people but also the skinny ones. Because body shaming is the same as bullying, just that people don't realised it.
Amenn!!
Hey Will, I’m sorry if I somehow disrespected you. What I meant to say was that we are each special in our own particular way by working on it, of course. I didn’t necessarily say “Queen or King.” We all have different outlooks in life and that is mine. You don’t have to agree with it. I agree to disagree with you, totally fine.
@123_nei Amen to what? So basically because there people out there fat shaming then skinny shamming is ok? Because women don't shame men for their looks right? No never. Or their clothing? Y'all don't MELT over handsome tall guys with good bodies? Stop it.
Chill, we agree that body shaming is not okay, regardless of gender, shape and sizes.
Thank you @wat3rfallz
@123_nei We're all f@cking queens 👑
@Goodwifie thanks for the encouragement!
I first heard it from black comedians like over decade ago. And since comedians can tend to set trends just like any other pop culture star, it became a thing. I'm not saying that was the source, but that's where I first noticed it.
Usually shaming is done by fat women because they feel ashamed at being fat, deep down they know being fat is shameful.
It's not okay. People shouldn't skinny shame you unless it is a health problem my family did this to me without me even being skinny it's so annoying like if I want to lose weight just let me lol
Show us the borderline anorexics with pencil thin arms & I will answer your Q
Why do so many people have to bring this example up? Anorexic people or underweight people in general are not very common in the West. They do exist- yes thats true. Do we ignore them? No.
But people like yourself always bring them up when Obesity is being discussed. Obesity is a VERY urgent issue right now in our society. Its worth talking out without bringing up smaller issues within our society. It will NEVER be fixed this way. I live in the UK and the NHS (our health care system) is massively suffering due to the obesity crisis. People with diseases they didn't choose to have (unlike most ibese individuals) are being turned down because of the amount of obese people they need to take care of.
And there's still ignorant people having the nerve to bring up smaller issues that aren't a burden on health care and think it's perfectly comparable right now.
I said ‘boderline anorexic’. Both borderline & fat whales need to eat & exercise properly
When got really sick (ulcerative colitis) I went down to 37kgs.
It was a real mental challenge for me to put the weight back on because I got used to seeing myself in this way.
I hated it though.
Stay healthy and quit being emotional snowflakes.
(ahaha ironic right?)
This isn't anything new. People criticize/shame eachother on everything under the sun. But with social media, these opinions which was once said "privately" are made more public for everyone to see.
Any body shaming is bad it doesn't matter if your skinny or thick. We're all different that what makes this world we live in so great. We need to learn to except our differences instead of trying to break each other down
Life has some serious issues.
These made up victims issues about being "shamed" get a yawn from me.
Women have always tore down other women for some stupid reasons
Yeah, people are competitive, and among women this is how it manifests.
Trends in sexual selection come and go. Just focus on being healthy and tell anyone who belittles you for your appearance to go fuck themselves.
Girls have always been taking shit about other girls. Since they all do it, the consensus is that it's ok.
Slim women are hot. I'm at avarage. (127 pounds- 5.3 ft) I wish i was 110. Don't mind people thougts. Most of them finds being fat easier than being slim.
It’s a sad attempt to cope with their feelings of inferiority and envy.
When feminism decided everyone else should be fat because they're fat.
Fat women are much more insecure than healthy women so they're much more likely to attack others.
Dude feminist women come in all shapes.
Feminism is more about lifting other women up rather than to drag them under.
Yeah, people come in all shapes and sizes. Doesn't change the majority/minority statistics.
Most feminists are fat.
Fat and healthy are not opposites
Yes. Yes they are, says decades of research and scientific literature. Being fat is worse than smoking.
And again being fat is a huge specrum.
There is a diffrence between a few extra pounds of fat and being 500lbs obese.
Of course being obese is unhealthy but for example people that have a few extra pounds of fat and are very muscular and active are very healthy.
Being fat is well defined medically. It is someone with a bodyfat level above 32%. It is always harmful.
The healthy range is between 12-25% for a woman. Above or below that is physically harmful.
For men the healthy range is between 6-20%, above and below is harmful.
The science is very clear on this. No serious dietritian, doctor, nutritionist, or trainer will tell you you can be fat and healthy.
When fat acceptance became a thing. We can't be grey, it's always either black or white. One extreme or the other.
When fat women realized that it is much easier to make fun of slim women than to control their diet and exercise.
1st world problems hey?
I know right 😜
People will always hate. Its human nature its just that its getting more media publicity now
Body shaming for both skinny and fat has existed for decades
Wondering when feminism will address the way women choose to treat each other on a regular basis
By the time the number of fat , bitter, ugly feminists has increased.
Im quite skinny myself and get a lot of comments about it but this isn't any better.
Skinny shaming isn’t really considered a real thing.
The same reason it was and sometimes is considered ok to shame bigger people in some groups it's because of ignorance.
When there became more fat acceptance, obese, hormonally imbalanced, "go girls" on the planet than skinny women.
I don't know. Maybe when Meghan Traynor called us “skinny bitches” in one of her songs.
I agree. when did it become ok to shame anyone for anything?
No idea when and why is that
I like skinny girls too and the thick ones too but to the point when u are thick and not obese like a sea monster
I´m sure jealousy is part of it, and I also believe many don´t realize how unhealthy being even moderately overweight really is.
Since (as well as being overweight), skinny is not healthy.
When did it become "OK" in either direction? I must have missed the memo.
Dawn of time, when the human female population grew to 3, that gave 2 of the women someone to talk about that wasn't a guy.
When the cloven hooved hippo women became the majority.
No one has told me "You're so skinny, you should eat more" or some variation more than women.
Body shaming anyone, is wrong
However, if you're unhealthy, that can be a HUGE problem
What could be more American than tearing down other people.
If you want to change your body just track calorie intake, while maintaining physical activity
Only when FAT women started to become model and act proud of 400lb fat.
No, it will never be okay to shame people because of their body shape and sizes
@wat3rfallz I know that but over weight models are also bad.
It’s like telling children’s that being unhealthy is good lol
Yeah, that's why the society has to be wiser and push forward to pressure the media to stop going to the extreme.
@wat3rfallz why can’t they have normal models?
They only go for skinny or super overweight lol
Society is going in wrong direction.
Europe has normal fit public but we USA are overweight
Honestly, I think it's just marketing and the society is dumb enough to be fooled by it and hurt each other. If you see it in a broader perspective, you will realised that there are more and more gimmicks on weight gain program. I'm guessing that the weight loss industry is going downhill and they are doing things to keep them in business.
@wat3rfallz but I don’t understand why there are fat models walking cat walk
Marketing, to show that they support the movement
@wat3rfallz wow now that’s a bad marketing.
Tbh if I was fat I wouldn’t tell people to don’t shame me, why because it’s my fault instead I would fix my problem.
@wat3rfallz fat people are playing victim card lol
I actually agree some fat people are really victims but not all. Anyway, I don't agree with any of it. Actually I'm fat and I don't play victim. I just felt thin or fat is that person's problem. As an outsider, nobody knows the effort that has been put in. In fact I tried losing weight and the widespread diet method is like a yoyo diet where people lose some weight and once they're off the product, they ended up gaining double the weight that they have loss. That's why fat people are getting fatter instead of thinner. The media is telling people the wrong things and overweight people are stressed and try to lose weight through these weight loss program or product ended up suffer monetary losses, mental health issues and gain more weight than before starting to their weight loss plan.
It's a vicious cycle. People who are slightly overweight >>> go through weight loss program >>> loss 5kg >>> stop the plan >>> lower metabolism then before >>> gain 10kg >>> feel bad about themselves >>> seek food for comfort and/or sort of give up on themselves >>> start another plan and so on and so on. I got stuck like that too. So, as a full grown adult, read more, much wiser still working towards my weight loss goals. But can't rush through it as it takes time and learn to be mentally prepared if things don't go as plan, don't worry too much and revise your plan and try harder and not to be defeated. Weight loss needs to be mentally strong and some people who see their weight doesn't go down, tends to give up and feel bad about themselves.
@wat3rfallz how do you lose weight?
Diet or how?
Both diet and exercise. Still I'm kinda fat to do much exercise but I'm on keto diet if you know what it is. Is just swapping out certain food but never make yourself starve.
@wat3rfallz I used keto diet and it’s the best way, that’s why I asked
@wat3rfallz in keto diet you dont starve !!!
@wat3rfallz would you mind sharing your diet plan?
Keto diet is effective but it’s not healthy to be on it for long periods of time. I’d suggest interspersing som essential fats in there just to help your body process things better. People forget that our body actually does need fat to run properly. Our brain for example is mostly fat and water. Anyways I’d suggest a build style exercise plan. Try pushing yourself a little harder every week or so. When I started exercising I weighed well over 250 pounds and I’m only 5’8. Now I’m down to 173 and hoping to drop about 5 percent more body fat. Also I would never suggest using BMI as a health indicator. It’s a highly innacurate test that fails to factor in body composition, muscle mass, bone density, and necessary fats. It’s alright to use as a tool to track weight loss effect but other than that it’s pretty useless unless it’s one of the ones you get in a hospital where they submerge you in a tank of water to measure your volume and density as well. But yeah, stay strong. I understand the struggle all to well, and I’ve had some weight fluctuations as well. But as long as you keep to your diet plan for the most part, and make sure your eating your necessary fats, proteins, grains, minerals, and vitamins. Also underrating is just as bad as overeating because it tends to slow your metabolism and cause weight gain so try to remember that’s
@Wharvey98 100% true
@Wharvey98 thanks a lot for the support and advice. I'll keep that in mind.
Being accepted by the mass isn’t the same as it being okay. Shaming someone like that is never okay.
When did body shaming fat women be okay? NEVER. I don’t body shame anybody. We all look different.
Because people are insecure af
Yes, the fat women want to make down the pretty slim women because they envy them for being more autocontrolled.
Body shaming is never a good thing
by the way I highly reccomend reading my take on the other side of the coin :)
If you don't want to be skinny then go eat a sammich already.
If you don’t want to sound like a dumbass, go learnt to spell already.
*Learn
@Harmseygrace "learnt".. lol oh the irony. And i always say sammich that was intentional.
Lol 15... i just realize i was talking to a little girl. Go do your homework!
When the American business culture realized that fat people patronize their restaurants
When it became acceptable for women to be 600 lbs or more.
That way, any women could shame another just by the posings given in these pictures. It depends on how you feel about it yourself.