
Should rating here be objective?


I TOTALLY AGREE. Most guys here call me ugly which is far from the truth. Basically someone who belongs to Europe or any white majority country gets a significantly higher rating. I have heard guys here saying they find eastern european women the most beautiful. I got curious and got my face analyzed and they said I look eastern European. But many people keep calling me ugly because they know that I'm Indian.
Indian people on the other hand tell me that I should try modeling or acting while the racists here tell me that being Indian makes me ugly.
I regularly see overhyped people over here that most Indians would consider ugly and yet the idiots call them gorgeous.
I've also noticed THE UGLIER THE PERSON THE MORE THEY TRY TO CHEER THEM UP BY CALLING THEM GORGEOUS and vice versa.
So I never asked for a rating here as I know they'll say numbers below 5 while I'm about 8-10 for the Indian guys. I also know my rating will be higher if my location shows as UK or US or any European country.
Thanks for the MHO 🙂
I think that garbage should be eliminated. Anybody who believes in that crap is immature and possibly boarder lines on abusive. It causes self esteem issues. People should focus on getting their life in order, instead of brooding on who likes you vs if you see yourself anywhere in the so-called rating system. If they want to know what they are like, look in the mirror and tell yourself: you're worth it. And go about you lovely day. I can honestly careless now how I expect others to view my physically. All it did was give me depression besides my other issues like bullying.
It's terrible but it'll just tell you how it is. If I give someone who shouldn't be like a 10, 10 here they would go outside thinking they are a 10, and if they get rejected they gonna be having questions.
Let me tell you as somebody who rejects guys 100%. WHO the hell cares! People get rejected for tons of things other than looks. I reject men because of 1. I don't KNOW them. I don't know their name, who they are. What they about, and what they are into. 2. I believe in dating people who shares your standards, values, views, beliefs, religion, faith, etc about life, love, children, sex, etc. 3. Only date a close friend you knew for at least 3 months to 1+ years. You get to know their habits, good side and bad side, their family, your friend circle is often the same. And you get to see what they want to achieve in the future. 4. Character is KEY in determining a partner. You do not want to date somebody who is only nice to you, but treat others different than them like crap out your backside. Looks are meaningless UNLESS you cannot find yourself wanting to marry and have sex with them [which should ONLY be saved for marriage. Don't care if you marry between 18+. Save yourself]
Also to add, some girls reject also out of fear. If you intimidate them and they feel harrassed they would not want to date you and reject you as softly and kindly as possible. Unless their one of those rude people. Mature people can care less about who's a stupid 1 - 10. Nobody cares. Only dumb people do.
That's you, but lots of people on earth are shallow. It's pretty scummy to lie to someone on how attractive they are if they live in a world like this
The same way you judge people for their looks is how you will be treated and judged. I have seen handsome men and I still rejected them. Because again, I am the type that will not have sex before marriage, do not want a partner who does, who still does if they aren't virgins, who don't want to marry, who masturbates or watch porn and or have conflicting standards and views to mine. I don't treat others like garbage based on their appearance. And I stay away from toxic people who do.
As I said before, you don't do stuff like that. When and if you get mistreated. Don't be surprised. People need to treat others with kindness. It promotes bullying.
It's not even about getting a partner and getting a good personality is easy. It's the fact your gonna get treated based on how you look, the difference between a man or a girl who's a 8 is gonna be treated much differently than a guy or girl who's like a 4.
Telling these people they are just 10 just out of niceness makes it even worse cuz it just causes complexity.
I mean u can have ur own subjective opinion, but it's better to be realistic
Nobody has to lie. People will use, cheat and abuse you regardless if your attractive, shallow or not. I saw plenty of people getting lied to and abused. Even I was lied to. But that is why attraction and attractiveness are subjective. There will always be a person more attractive than YOU, and YOU may be more attractive than somebody ELSE. I have friends who are attractive than me or at least what I CAN see, and even they see the same thing for me, like ME and compared to others, and sometimes due to self-esteem themselves. I tell anybody who cares about such nonsense to get over it. Because that's just life. What matters is how happy you are being yourself. As a child, we don't worry about such things. As an adult, we have a choice of how we want to treat people and be treated back. I love a person for their heart and spirit. Not their looks. Looks will fade and change. An attractive heart and spirit are more valuable than an attractive face. I drew much attention to men and guys who had girlfriends in the past or current and did what you suggest with that rating crap and once they saw my character, they wanted to meet somebody like me because of my character. I get called ugly, pretty, nice-looking, beautiful, etc. Everybody has their perspective of me. Guess what, I no longer care.
I see, but I'm just saying for others. I honestly got rate inflated here, and then I saw the truth from others, now I'm just getting complexities
"It's the fact your gonna get treated based on how you look, the difference between a man or a girl who's a 8 is gonna be treated much differently than a guy or girl who's like a 4." BS. I am soon to be 28 men, and I have seen plenty of people so-called less attractive getting treated better than somebody who is more attractive. THAT'S REALISTIC. People at the end of the day will treat you based on your status and ability to mingle, relate and most importantly COMMUNICATE. That's why public speaking/speech communication classes are important. Each environment and age groups has its own rules. That's why people branch the statuses from the Elites, Nerds, Rich, Poor, Religious, etc. Their labels. And the more you label somebody, you will attach to it. And it can either help or hurt you. This is why people commit suicide because create expectations that are unrealistic. It is not my opinion. If I think somebody is attractive, then I do. But it doesn't change how I feel about them. People treat me like garbage more because I'm so-called religious and I'm Introverted. I stay to myself and is a 'goody two shoes'. So, of course, I will get treated poorly. Vs somebody who puts on makeup, is sexually flirtatious, is vain and callus because it fits the atmosphere of today's SOCIETY. That's how they will treat you. And the only reason people use physical appearance to determine success is that its an ancient Roman and Greek thought. You become students of Plato once your out of college. YOU can change that and have the power to get rid of it if you choose too. Again, remember, what you choose can either help or hurt you.
You're getting complexities because like I was told being younger: "Why do you care what other people THINK of you? The only reason why you suffer is that you care too much." The more good you feel about yourself. The better you will attract the kind of people you want. But never assume the people you want to attract and be in your life share the same goals, values, and sentiments you do. You're a teenager. You will face many challenges that will challenge your views and values. Even your own self-worth. At the end of the day, you got to believe in yourself. Because when you have faith, hope and trust, not just kindness and love, you will inspire people. Just like I did. You'll get haters and lovers. Do what overall makes your day. For me helping others and being of service makes me happy. Be your authentic self because there is only one YOU.
Yeah I mean your right when people are done with school and dont have much people to talk to, but in highschool this is insanely rapid, I observe this like everyday. Girls who are quiet can become so popular fast if they are attractive. Same with guys. U usually dont get cared about much if your ugly, it's the harsh reality. People are attracted to personality, but people put up more bs with attractive people just because they want to fuck them. The stereotypes like your saying, nerds are like usually never noticed and unattractive but their mind set is good
Understand that this rating system as any worldly system is designed for you to fail. And the top 1% to succeed. Nowadays babies are being genetically modified to be attractive if you have the money, and yes, it's legal. That's another reason why it should be over and done with. Its a made-up construct like Race is.
Again, attractiveness is subjective for reasons that it is. It doesn't matter if she attractive or not. Loud or not, quiet or not. It's all about your views, your values, your principals, your beliefs and your character. How do YOU want to treat people? How do YOU value or lack of value of people? Not what others think. Because people's thoughts and ideas change over time, even in high school. I have gone to a high school that did care about looks. I went to a high school that didn't. I did better at my last high school that didn't care about that crap and we all were family. We were a small school of around 200, compared to my first school of 57 students that became bigger.
Never judge by a person's appearance. Must Nerds are not unattractive. Just may dress unattractively and may not be as interested in status as compared to Jocks, or the Popular Outgoing Blond girls. Their stereotypes for a reason. Doesn't make it right. Not even personality these days. They only suck up to people, like you said, to screw them in bed or other selfish reasons like money and status. There were times I was popular ONLY for my talent, but they didn't like me as a person. The moment I transferred out of my old HS. Now I'm like a hero to them then because I graduated before them and I got a job. I was on my way to success at the time where they always put me down. You got to give people something to believe in. But most people who get treated badly are often good people who are treated poorly by other jealous and envious people.
"Yeah I mean your right when people are done with school and dont have much people to talk to, but in highschool this is insanely rapid, I observe this like everyday."
Again, do not be deceived. This doesn't happen only because you don't have many people to talk to. This happens because it all depends on your mindset, level or maturity, how you were raised, and the environment your in. If your around shallow people all the time, then yes, you will be treated by THEIR standards. But if you are not around shallow people, then you will be judged by your character. This even happens in any place or school you go to. If you only look in the lense of loser mentality, you will be more angry, jealous, envious and less authentic to other people and it affects your mental and physical health. You'll get benefits, but it will often happen at the expense of others, stepping over people, and have the adoration of users who wants to see you fail so they can get your position. It's survival of the fittest. But you'll just be very lonely and will lose more real friends and gain fake friends, and a fake partner if your dating, having sex or married. That's another reason people end up in bad marriages or relationships. When you look from the lens of a winner mentality, you will be seen as naive, unrealistic, a loser to most, etc. And you will have to work twice as hard to get anywhere or may never achieve what you originally intended. BUT, you will at least be content and have good people in your life, will gain success eventually or as quickly if it's for your life. It requires effort and work. It gets harder and tougher in college because it's expected you know what is expected of you. In HS, your babysat, in college and beyond, you're on your own for the most part. It's how you handle life and treat others is what is going to count.
This get's worse in High School because nobody fights for what's right anymore. It's expected you be shallow, irresponsible, doing drugs, rebel, etc. But that is why we have so many problems with the world and families breakdown and gets destroyed or is messed up. Many cheats to get success. You don't have to be one of them. More people are waking up to this scam. But many like you said are also pushing back to secure their spot in the 1%.
Tbh I just dont even know anymore, like I'm almost depressed because of this. Like i dont want to be a 3 or a 4
That's not for you to decide if you don't want to be a 2, 3 or 4. You are YOU. You have the choice to love yourself or hate yourself. Nobody owes you anything. You owe it to yourself to decide the kind of life you want. What you want may not be what you need, and what you need may not always be what you want. But you're getting depressed because your trying to fight with life instead of just living your life to the fullest without other people's judgments affect you. Being anything than the '#' you want won't change anything if you refuse to already be content and happy. I've been in a similar position, but my position got worse because again, lack of self-love. You got to love you.
I dont know what to do, I dont think self love can come out of nowhere for me
Go for what you NEED. And that is to love yourself as you were originally created. Because at the end of it all, only YOU are holding yourself back. Its nobody else's problem if you refuse to accept that. Don't allow yourself to be toxic or cancerous for others to avoid you. People, especially on this site doesn't owe you anything they don't want to give. This site has plenty of toxic people. And if you're not careful, you'll end up as one of them if you don't set proper and healthy boundaries.
Yes, it can come from you. But your stubborn and want to fit in the world. You're different from other people, and it's okay. I will tell you as somebody who has been bullied, abused, always been treated poorly, almost been killed, sexually harrassed, etc that you are not ALONE. My strength comes from God. As long as you have one person believe in you, especially God, you need nobody else if they refuse to be there. That's all. You have to take charge of your actions and decide who you want to be seen and known for. If you believe that nobody should be treated based on physical appearance then fight for it! Don't sulk in a corner. Nobody will take you seriously. People started taking me seriously when I said enough is enough and I got sick and tired of people BS. I cut toxic people out of my life and I do what I have to do with or without them. And if nobody liked it, aw well. They can go kick rocks. But they will NOT ruin my life. Take authority and accountability for your life. Because that's the only way you'll succeed. Because that 'I don't want to be a 3 or 4" nonsense is just going to make others avoid you further because of your getting toxic. And you'll REALLY get into depression for real. Clinically if not careful. Stop opening doors to toxicity in your life. I believe in you. But if you don't want to believe in yourself, then I can't help you.
Alright
People don't get 10s all the time. I've seen very attractive woman get low ratings cause guys think they ask to get attention and girls are jealous of them. I've also seen girls create dozens of profiles so they can give low ratings to everybody who says the girl is pretty.
Beauty isn't objective. Personally I would rate quite a few men in your "top 0,1%" category as quite average and the other way around... These ratings don't say shit. You can be ugly to one person and be steaming hot to someone else.
But not only with dating, people subconsciously treat you bad based on your look. If ur below average ur gonna get ignored daily, if ur not below average and ur like above, people gonna pay more attention to you, unless your personality is straight garbage
You'll always be below or above average to some people though xD
Yeah it is true, but u usually have a range, if I brung a model in a place, there's gonna be obviously a few girls who find him unattractive but the majority will find that model attractive.
Many many maaaany male models are just "meh" to me. I doubt that there's even one man in existence which would actually attract the majority of the female population. Just like there is none which won't attract any.
If objective beauty would exist we would all look the same after a couple hundred of generations.
There are men like that, I had this guy in my middle school, like literally every girl liked him, u may not like them but the majority will.
Me, I'm like ugly so I just see this for myself. I gotta be the one imitating first when talking, people look at me once in public, they dont do a double take etc. I just am observing
I said "female population" not "girls of your age group at your school". That's a big big difference xD
Well I'm still so ugly but I got rate inflated here so I guess idek anymore
I like have complexes cuz I don't know what I am at this point
As much as i would love physical attraction to be objective, it simply isn't. Sure, there are general trends. But far too much variation to really say one trait is more attractive than another. For example, my friends 10 is a girl with big tits, big ass, a little extra fat, but not much. While my 10 is thin, no extra fat at all, maybe some muscle to add some curves.
Find some GAGERS who you believe are honest and just send the question to them. There will always be trolls looking to mess things up!
Just need to be creative and think outside the box!
The thing is I got rate inflated like 5 guys say I'm good, but NO GIRLS rated me but they rated other guys.
As you get to know the people in the community... find 10 or so people that you like and use them for future ratings. People on gag are not professional people raters... just keep that in mind. LOL
Yeah this is what I mean, the ratings get inflated and people get deluded like me, I thought I was good looking but I got a reality check
Well If you take their opinions seriously I guess you did my man!
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There is no such thing as an "objective rating".
If I perceive someone as a 6, that's the way I perceive them, I don't know how attractive the others would perceive them, my guess is equally as worthless as their own guess.
Yeah but most people view u in the same range as attractive. If I was to get an attractive model to come to a high school, most girls would call him attractive, there's outliers but yeah ur usually around a certain range
Yeah that's what I mean, all ur friends are rating this 1 girl 4 and 5. I just want to stop looking so ugly but I actually can't
I don't agree with all of these; some are rated too low and some are rated too high. I think the guys in 8 are more attractive than 9, and a couple of the guys rated 7 should be 8. Also on 4 the guy 3rd from right is a solid 6 at least.
lol "how do you look" section is full of cancers
if some ugly girl post pic there and ask for rate, every chickwill say aww you are pretty even tho she's not just to make her feel good about herself when reality is she's ugly...
That's exactly what I mean, why would they just lie to someone.
Your posted rating scale is all kinds of fucked up.
If you think thats what objectivity looks like there is literally no hope for you.
Beauty is subjective yeah, but in a society there's some objectiveness on attraction
lol you are fucking retarded.
I didn't come up with that, so I don't know what your attacking me for
Because you fucking posted it, you therefore endorse it
:/ dude why are you getting so hostile. Show some maturity your like 40
Because I am fighting the futile and endless war on stupid.
How would you even do that? Do you think most people REALLY want to know? I doubt it.
The truth is better than the lie. If someone here was calling me a 10 but like if I go outside irl, I dont feel like a 10.
Rating for attractiveness can never be objective
And even if it was that chart is inaccurate
A bunch of guys on incel websites think they know what a good looking man looks like better than women themselves.
I wouldn’t rate some of the guys in the 9 category as a 9.
You're an incels from r/truerateme (that stupid is from their page)
https://www.reddit.com/r/truerateme/
Go away incel
Oh I see they changed their guide now.. How convenient
Rate me questions are annoying as bleep I refuse to give answer any of these questions
Ratings are always objective.
Dont wanna put people down cuz I dont look good myself, but some of the ratings are inflated
Beauty is pretty subjective, so no.
Its subjective but this is our society, people want to know how they are viewed by others
Ok ur ugly. Happy now?
Imma 5 smh
That's good, I'm a 3 literally, 4 at best
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