Thoughts on Plus sized and Curve models?

Question

As most of you now, fashion industry is now changing but is it really for the better? We are all used to seeing size 0-4 girls on magazine covers and runway shows but now it has changed. We see models who are visibly bigger like Ashley Graham and Tess Holliday, while they are plus sized in real life some models who are called “plus sized” are not even close to being plus sized in real life such as Barbara Palvin and Kate Upton. What are your thoughts on this?

Kurαȷ · Accepted Answer

The purpose of models is to promote fashion products.
If a company thinks that it makes business sense to promote their products by employing average/below average looking people, that's their prerogative.

I of course find the traditional runway models far more attractive than any of these women, but then again, I'm not the target demographic for female fashion products so my opinion is irrelevant.

I do think that "sports illustrated" putting women such as Kate Upton or Barbara Palvin on the cover of their magazines is a complete joke, but then again, if they want to come across as a joke with zero credibility, that's also their prerogative.

hellionthesagereborn · Accepted Answer

I have no issue with it until you get to Tess holiday, that's not attractive, its not healthy and its rather repulsive (Personally I think Ashley Graham is quite attractive, but I think their is a difference between being thick, chubby and out right morbidly obese). However they can do with their companies and magazines what they like I don't really care but you will never make unhealthy look attractive, its just biology.

Ctuinfort · Accepted Answer

Okay so it is okay to be curvy, everybody has his/her own body type. But there is definetly a line between obese and curvy. Because with obese models we are encouraging for being "fat"(sorry to be that harsh but i could not come up with a different word) is okay while it is not at all. It is not a healthy life style. Nike was announcing a new line for "curvy" people and ofc it's super cool for like body acceptence but i'ts not healthy. If we keep on going like this obese wil be more normal then before which is actually not ok since, like i said multiple times before is not healthy!

OBanana · Accepted Answer

1,3,4 shouldn't be called pus size models, they have a normal and healthy body like most healthy women have! This is really sad.
Nr.2 ashley something? Is indeed a bigger size and thats fine
But the last one shouldn't be a model because she's obese.
I think they should get rid of those plus size labels anyways and just use different sized models (in the healthy range)

Jonny_ · Answer

Double edge sword on multiple fronts, I think average people being involved in it makes more sense especially since they're the target demographic. But realistically companies are still selling a product and the best way to do that is make it look better, and sell a lifestyle. We like to think we want to be practical people but really if something doesn't look that good we won't want it. Having larger models is a weird one for me, on one hand fair enough they're confident and happy in themselves but on the flip side it isn't medically healthy. I'm at a stage where i'm out of shape and have considerably more body fat than i've ever had, I don't feel as attractive and i'm certainly not as healthy and really I wouldn't try to pretend i'm cool with it and that everyone should do what i'd done to get to this stage because having been thin i'd be lying to myself to say i'm happier or better off now. It's the same with advertising it, some people may be cool with it but to pass it off as a norm is as much of a con as trying to suggest being super skinny is good. I've always thought athletic models were the way to go, they have the best balance of what is good for us.

SomeGuyCalledTom · Answer

Most of the girls you posted pics of are not what I'd call "plus size". (I fucking hate that term, it's just a euphemism for "fat". at least "fat" is HONEST. But those girls don't look fat, they just have a little extra padding than the typical Victoria's secret runway model.)

Tess Holiday is just very off-putting, to put it lightly. And from what I've seen of video footage, she has all the class and subtlety and sex appeal of a gangrenous foot. What's more, she's profiting off obesity and selling it to young women as "empowerment". So she's fat on the outside and ugly on the inside.

I bet she "only dates 6'3" guys with six pack" too. Honestly I think she just got bullied as a kid for being big and now she's overcompensating, she has that smug entitled attitude of someone who's got one too many scars to hide.

mk200195 · Answer

I think it is wonderful! It’s unfortunate that society has taken the anorexic Barbie Doll type and made them the woman of choice and that many young girls struggle and strive to become just that… Even more unfortunate, is that try as they might, some fail miserably and the results can be devastating to them. To their self-esteem and to their sense of self worth. It’s very sad when in reality they are gorgeous in their own way, yet few truly appreciate them.

OfDeath · Answer

I don't get this. I thought the idea of models was for them to model for brands with the idea being the more attractive the model, the more recognition the brand will get and people will think of that brand positively.

If a company uses an average looking woman or worse a fat woman to model their brand, it tells me that brand is an average or below average brand.
So from a business point of view, I don't like plus size models unless they are being used to market a plus size line of clothing or something.
For anything else, the models need to be attractive unless the advertisement is using satire.

Randomawkwardness · Answer

I think there should be a healthy range because I can assure you, most women are not size 0. I think smaller sizes promote anorexia and larger ones promote obesity. Do they still need representation? Of course. I'm glad its moving out of the super skinny range and into things that are more commonly seen.

truthbeknown · Answer

No problem with them. The issue I have is the perception they are trying to convey that being plus size is just as beautiful and hot as someone slim and just as healthy too. Furthermore, they are also conveying fat acceptance in that I should be shamed into liking and finding them just as attracted as someone slim too.

KaitieSearching · Answer

It’s just as bad as any other model. Instead of photoshopping an unrealistically tiny waist or smoother skin, we’re now photoshopping out cellulite, stretch marks and veins. Modeling is, as modeling was: lies. Plus size or no.

Thatsamazing · Answer

"but is it really for the better?" No. Fat is fat and it's unattractive. Literally everyone knows this, including the people who deny it-- they are simply denying it as a form of mental defense mechanism in order to make things simpler for themselves, since admitting that they're wrong about this would cause them mental anguish.

COMMODOREII · Answer

I think it's something that we all need to cut out in trying to say what is good for a woman and not. Everyone has the right to their choices and their way of life. If we are all more accepting in that no one shamed anybody then maybe more of us who are overweight would get more confidence in taking care of ourselves better if needed. There is no ideal body shape everyone needs to follow.

HomoFuge · Answer

The first girl doesn’t look plus sized at all. The second to fourth pictures are plus sized. Tess Holiday is just morbidly obese and shouldn’t be a model as that’s basically promoting a eating disorder.

Anonymous · Answer

The first woman doesn’t belong in the plus size category. To all you guys saying that having big hips/butt isn’t healthy. First of all you don’t have to be overweight to have that. I’m nowhere close to being overweight and I’m probably healthier than you. Second of all, contrary to popular belief, it’s actually belly fat that isn’t healthy. Last but certainly not least you’re just jealous because you don’t have an @$$, and guys check us out first.

xyz94 · Answer

When we say 'plus size', it depends on whether we mean Ashley Graham, or the second photo in this post, which is a large build/thick but not necessarily overweight, and obesity, like the final image here.

Reaperbot666 · Answer

would think the average woman is somewhere between a size 6 and a size 16.

depending on the woman's height and how she carries the weight. I see no issue with plus size models or women in generally. provided they are otherwise healthy that is.

Coloradomtnman2 · Answer

I’m really not attracted to plus sized or overweight females. It has nothing to do with the media or fashion industry... it’s 100% my preference

lukedaniel · Answer

Fat acceptance is a pretty attempt to win fat people's votes. Being fat is a medical disease and should be treated as such. But sometimes being chubby is just genetic and unfixable. But as long as you like what you're doing and are having fun then do whatever. YOLO bitches

Massageman · Answer

The first four are in relative HWP proportions. Extra weighty (think #5) individuals actually DO harm others in as much as they will be putting an additional strain on the healthcare and insurance arenas which everyone will- ultimately- have to pay for.

VIVANT · Answer

The first should absolutely NOT be called plus size.. The rest eh sure why not. They are highly could stand to drop the phone and hit the gym lay off the chocolate cake and booze 🤷‍♀️

Anonymous · Answer

I've never paid a bit of attention to fashion models as an example of what a man should want. I'm attracted to what I like, and it's not going to change. I look at Tess Holliday the same way I look at a man; she's just there. I don't even see her as a woman per se, just another person.

kennyw87 · Answer

I find all of the above attractive in there own ways but every human is beautiful and deserves to be told and made to feel like it

Saltygrump91 · Answer

Everybody should be happy with who they are but not everyone will enjoy looking at them

LovelyFlower · Answer

Tess whatever gotta go. She’s passed plus size , unhealthy , obese & repulsing.

DiegoO · Answer

I mean, let's face it, most people are not in full shape, so seen someone who is in your same physical condition can make you feel comfortable with your appearance.

Anonymous · Answer

Who cares. The fashion industry is a joke. Most of the clothes these women walk up and down the runway in area joke. No one doing to wear that garbage. It’s about who can look the weirdest. I agree Kate Upton is not plus size. That women in your last pic is plus size.

esotericstory · Answer

I like women who are fit and have good posture. Thats healthy. Fat isn't beautiful. We have a social responsibility to be fit because our actions impact those around us. We also have a moral responsibility because our actions impact our fertility and thus affect future citizens.

leahzrc · Answer

Plus sized is anyone who is higher than a size 2 nowadays

Manlyman1 · Answer

Being a guy I don't know those women you mention but those first four pictures of women look like normal size women.

MountainDewMan1 · Answer

I admire the bravery. However, if you are being paid as a professional you should get yourself in shape. Anyone can have a Burger King Bod.

jwsstein · Answer

Not the cosmopolitan that's not cool at all but the rest is great like a little junk in the trunk not so packed the bumper is dragging the ground

idontsendDpics · Answer

Every one but the last one I am cool with and I understand it’s good to like yourself but at the same time there are a lot of health risks being that big and don’t feel people show encourage that

OddBeMe · Answer

Love em. Confident people are attractive. Whether your skinny or chubby, just be nice and confident.

SlothySlob · Answer

1. Pear shaped, I can see ribs 2. Normal 3. Normal 4. Normal 5. Ham planet a. k. a. no

Anonymous · Answer

They all look good except the last girl. She is a disgrace and should be ashamed of herself for promoting that kind of lifestyle.

Johnuk15 · Answer

I definitely prefer curvy females but not when it is unhealthy like obesity

seniorghostman · Answer

I always preferred a little meat on my lady. Not that’s it’s a requirement

red_knight · Answer

Iv never been with a plus sized girl... No idea what it's lie but they're very pretty

Passionate_youth · Answer

Only the last one was a straight turn off for me... The rest were alright but I really do prefer thin girls with a smaller but well shaped booty

andrermm · Answer

I don't know about models or care about but the only one on those photos that made me happy was the first one

0sean · Answer

I wouldn't call any of these girls fat except for the last one

JesseJayNeak · Answer

4 out of 5 of these pictures actually depicts fit women. Except Tess Holiday aka the last one.

Clarke498 · Answer

Plus size is just bullshit. It's called looking normal/non-anorexic. Stupid term.

Anonymous · Answer

Nothing funnier than reading comments from a bunch of closeted gays about how they don’t find fat women attractive.

Hannajenky · Answer

Overweight is not healthy

Danny_dan92 · Answer

No. No. No... The only woman there that is appealing is the first one

Anonymous · Answer

Any heavier girl would probably look really good to me. She’s got to jiggle enough when she walks :)

IlyaTheImpaler · Answer

only the last one looks bad

jss123 · Answer

All of them except the last one look great.

scooogy · Answer

Muscles are okay, but not fat

Glue-Sniffer · Answer

I don't care about any kind of models.

Ripper_E · Answer

Ashley Graham is #1

Kato99 · Answer

It's a celebration of ugliness.

ask4any · Answer

They are my preferences

Anonymous · Answer

Some of these women look gross!

Sha84 · Answer

bigger is better to hold on to

Crowejerms · Answer

Plus size models e sexy

Anonymous · Answer

excuse me i'm about to lose my lunch *barf*

MDollarBill · Answer

They make me hard! Skinny isn't normal...

fett253 · Answer

I think they're wonderful!

sulcarter488atgm · Answer

Dream come true

Anonymous · Answer

They look like they're asking to be made fun of...

Navarro26 · Answer

Some look good

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