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The purpose of models is to promote fashion products.
If a company thinks that it makes business sense to promote their products by employing average/below average looking people, that's their prerogative.
I of course find the traditional runway models far more attractive than any of these women, but then again, I'm not the target demographic for female fashion products so my opinion is irrelevant.
I do think that "sports illustrated" putting women such as Kate Upton or Barbara Palvin on the cover of their magazines is a complete joke, but then again, if they want to come across as a joke with zero credibility, that's also their prerogative.
I have no issue with it until you get to Tess holiday, that's not attractive, its not healthy and its rather repulsive (Personally I think Ashley Graham is quite attractive, but I think their is a difference between being thick, chubby and out right morbidly obese). However they can do with their companies and magazines what they like I don't really care but you will never make unhealthy look attractive, its just biology.
Okay so it is okay to be curvy, everybody has his/her own body type. But there is definetly a line between obese and curvy. Because with obese models we are encouraging for being "fat"(sorry to be that harsh but i could not come up with a different word) is okay while it is not at all. It is not a healthy life style. Nike was announcing a new line for "curvy" people and ofc it's super cool for like body acceptence but i'ts not healthy. If we keep on going like this obese wil be more normal then before which is actually not ok since, like i said multiple times before is not healthy!
1,3,4 shouldn't be called pus size models, they have a normal and healthy body like most healthy women have! This is really sad.
Nr.2 ashley something? Is indeed a bigger size and thats fine
But the last one shouldn't be a model because she's obese.
I think they should get rid of those plus size labels anyways and just use different sized models (in the healthy range)
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Double edge sword on multiple fronts, I think average people being involved in it makes more sense especially since they're the target demographic. But realistically companies are still selling a product and the best way to do that is make it look better, and sell a lifestyle. We like to think we want to be practical people but really if something doesn't look that good we won't want it. Having larger models is a weird one for me, on one hand fair enough they're confident and happy in themselves but on the flip side it isn't medically healthy. I'm at a stage where i'm out of shape and have considerably more body fat than i've ever had, I don't feel as attractive and i'm certainly not as healthy and really I wouldn't try to pretend i'm cool with it and that everyone should do what i'd done to get to this stage because having been thin i'd be lying to myself to say i'm happier or better off now. It's the same with advertising it, some people may be cool with it but to pass it off as a norm is as much of a con as trying to suggest being super skinny is good. I've always thought athletic models were the way to go, they have the best balance of what is good for us.
Most of the girls you posted pics of are not what I'd call "plus size". (I fucking hate that term, it's just a euphemism for "fat". at least "fat" is HONEST. But those girls don't look fat, they just have a little extra padding than the typical Victoria's secret runway model.)
Tess Holiday is just very off-putting, to put it lightly. And from what I've seen of video footage, she has all the class and subtlety and sex appeal of a gangrenous foot. What's more, she's profiting off obesity and selling it to young women as "empowerment". So she's fat on the outside and ugly on the inside.
I bet she "only dates 6'3" guys with six pack" too. Honestly I think she just got bullied as a kid for being big and now she's overcompensating, she has that smug entitled attitude of someone who's got one too many scars to hide.
I think it is wonderful! It’s unfortunate that society has taken the anorexic Barbie Doll type and made them the woman of choice and that many young girls struggle and strive to become just that… Even more unfortunate, is that try as they might, some fail miserably and the results can be devastating to them. To their self-esteem and to their sense of self worth. It’s very sad when in reality they are gorgeous in their own way, yet few truly appreciate them.
I don't get this. I thought the idea of models was for them to model for brands with the idea being the more attractive the model, the more recognition the brand will get and people will think of that brand positively.
If a company uses an average looking woman or worse a fat woman to model their brand, it tells me that brand is an average or below average brand.
So from a business point of view, I don't like plus size models unless they are being used to market a plus size line of clothing or something.
For anything else, the models need to be attractive unless the advertisement is using satire.
I think there should be a healthy range because I can assure you, most women are not size 0. I think smaller sizes promote anorexia and larger ones promote obesity. Do they still need representation? Of course. I'm glad its moving out of the super skinny range and into things that are more commonly seen.
No problem with them. The issue I have is the perception they are trying to convey that being plus size is just as beautiful and hot as someone slim and just as healthy too. Furthermore, they are also conveying fat acceptance in that I should be shamed into liking and finding them just as attracted as someone slim too.
"but is it really for the better?" No. Fat is fat and it's unattractive. Literally everyone knows this, including the people who deny it-- they are simply denying it as a form of mental defense mechanism in order to make things simpler for themselves, since admitting that they're wrong about this would cause them mental anguish.
I think it's something that we all need to cut out in trying to say what is good for a woman and not. Everyone has the right to their choices and their way of life. If we are all more accepting in that no one shamed anybody then maybe more of us who are overweight would get more confidence in taking care of ourselves better if needed. There is no ideal body shape everyone needs to follow.
It’s just as bad as any other model. Instead of photoshopping an unrealistically tiny waist or smoother skin, we’re now photoshopping out cellulite, stretch marks and veins. Modeling is, as modeling was: lies. Plus size or no.
The first girl doesn’t look plus sized at all. The second to fourth pictures are plus sized. Tess Holiday is just morbidly obese and shouldn’t be a model as that’s basically promoting a eating disorder.
The first woman doesn’t belong in the plus size category. To all you guys saying that having big hips/butt isn’t healthy. First of all you don’t have to be overweight to have that. I’m nowhere close to being overweight and I’m probably healthier than you. Second of all, contrary to popular belief, it’s actually belly fat that isn’t healthy. Last but certainly not least you’re just jealous because you don’t have an @$$, and guys check us out first.
would think the average woman is somewhere between a size 6 and a size 16.
depending on the woman's height and how she carries the weight. I see no issue with plus size models or women in generally. provided they are otherwise healthy that is.
Fat acceptance is a pretty attempt to win fat people's votes. Being fat is a medical disease and should be treated as such. But sometimes being chubby is just genetic and unfixable. But as long as you like what you're doing and are having fun then do whatever. YOLO bitches
When we say 'plus size', it depends on whether we mean Ashley Graham, or the second photo in this post, which is a large build/thick but not necessarily overweight, and obesity, like the final image here.
The first four are in relative HWP proportions. Extra weighty (think #5) individuals actually DO harm others in as much as they will be putting an additional strain on the healthcare and insurance arenas which everyone will- ultimately- have to pay for.
I’m really not attracted to plus sized or overweight females. It has nothing to do with the media or fashion industry... it’s 100% my preference
The first should absolutely NOT be called plus size.. The rest eh sure why not. They are highly could stand to drop the phone and hit the gym lay off the chocolate cake and booze 🤷♀️
I've never paid a bit of attention to fashion models as an example of what a man should want. I'm attracted to what I like, and it's not going to change. I look at Tess Holliday the same way I look at a man; she's just there. I don't even see her as a woman per se, just another person.
I find all of the above attractive in there own ways but every human is beautiful and deserves to be told and made to feel like it
Everybody should be happy with who they are but not everyone will enjoy looking at them
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