How do you define a "creep"?

[Idonthaveausername]

I see guys on here complain about being called creeps all the time, but they don't always seem to understand why or claim girls would call them creeps for being unattractive. Guys on here claim girls call them creepy for asking them out, but I have never nor ever seen a girl call a guy a "creep" for asking her out or flirting badly

I call the guys who stalk me in the grocery store in the middle of the night creeps. I call guys who grope me creeps. I call that guy who tried to followed me 20 minutes home from the gas station a creep. And I call those guys last night who wanted to kidnap me creeps

[Anonymous]

Creep
The common element of a creep is that he is a guy who can't take "no" for an answer and will continue to persist after clear rejection has been made because he thinks that she will eventually give in. Conversely, a creep is also a guy who is terrified of rejection and likely to try to prove the purity of his intentions rather than except that he's horny but has nothing going for him.
Unfortunately, many women struggle to say "no" because she hates to be rejected and does not want to feel that she has inflicted the same feelings on someone in fear that it is bad karma even though the guy she rejected is probably not a creep.

CREEP
CREEP #1

A CREEP is ANYONE, Male or Female, with Icky or Undesirable Behavior or Persona (see Creep #2 & #3).
Creeps Can “Give Off” A Molester/Rapist, Sex-Fiend, Lurker Vibe.

Many Times, Creeps Are Sociopathic (they Socially Prey on People) & have “Fake Charming Voices” (see Worm Tongue).

The Male Creeps, Many Times, Sport Sparse Goatees & Usually Wear Sunglasses & are Sometimes Physically Fit, so that they can Rape More Often.

Many Female Creeps Are TATTOOED & Are “Betty Page” Look Alikes & Wannabees that have Leopard Skin Clothing Fetishes. Sometimes, they look like plain housewives.

Creeps are Always Looking to Get Laid.

Some Common Examples of Creeps (See More Detailed List on Urban Dictionary)
1. Guys or Women who “Come On” to Your Wife/Husband or Girlfriend/Boyfriend at Church.
2. All ADULTS who Try to HAVE SEX WITH Teenagers By Acting Cool through the Use of Drugs, Materialism, Music or Literature. This includes Most College Professors, many High School Teachers, Some Step-Fathers & Recreational Church Leaders.
3. Most Guys Who Have Mail-Order/Trophy Wives Half their Age out of Eastern Europe & China.
4. Married Men Who “Come On” to You While They Are Bringing their Children to School, Day Care, Church or the YMCA. (See More Detailed List on Urban Dictionary).

[Idonthaveausername]

Nicely said. I have seen many creepy women although more men. One of my female neighbors totally creeped on my next door neighbor. He was drunk and high and she took advantage of him. Yeah he seemed open for it because he was in an altered state of mind, but what she did was pretty creepy

[Opinion Owner]

There was a creepy female teacher at our school who used to come into the changing room while we were changing and used to do the same with the boys. She got fired after she got filmed molesting a female student and they later found out she was having threesomes with some of the boys.

[Idonthaveausername]

I was going to say we had a similar teacher... but only to the first part of that. Yeah that's totally creepy behavior and she deserved to be fired and prosecuted

[Opinion Owner]

She claimed mental health issues and got a slap on the wrist.

[Idonthaveausername]

That's so wrong... she deserved more than that

[bethshepherd]

There are creeps on this site, some of them bang on and about sex and how desperate they are and fantasise that the women here are fantastically beautiful, look like models, are young and attractive and got a wonderful body and desperate to let any man anywhere enjoy it. If they are not that stupid and desperate the men get short tempered with them and call them names. Because to such CREEPS women are only there to give men sex. These CREEPS forget that there are women who earn their living this way. They are called prostitutes, call girls, lap dancers etc. They charge a lot of money. If amateurs were equally keen to meet a load of tossers and give them sexual satisfaction surely they would give up their job and do that instead and earn a lot more? I once had a client who used to be a teacher. She was middle aged and fairly attractive but nothing special. She went to a bar to meet a friend and the friend did not turn up. But a guy chatted her up and offered her a lot of money for sex. He was good looking , smart, charming, good with words, pleasant to be with so she said yes and earnt more in a few hours than she usually earnt in a whole week. She did it some more and gave up teaching. She now earns far more meeting a few guys like this each week. She would laugh at some of the guys who lack personality, looks, charm and expect women to give them FREE casual sex. She would not bother with them if they offered to pay her.

[Idonthaveausername]

Haha so many creeps on this site. The sad part is when they justify this bad behavior and blame the women for it

I get why she would do that. I've been offered money before, but always turn it (And the guy) down. I've even had girls encourage me to get a sugar daddy. But I know that is a one-way street, so I will never do it. But even though those transactions are consentual, it still creeps me out every time I'm put in one of those positions

[bethshepherd]

A lot of women who are attractive, sexy and/or young get offered money. That is what the creeps forget. Women are never as desperate as men. They can be far more picky.. I would never find fault with a woman who has a sugar daddy though, so long as he cares about her and is good company too, it makes more sense than putting it about with guys who just use her and give her nothing at all. I have known married men who were not keen to get a divorce or could not for various reasons - usually money - they try to get a mistress and fail because most women can see how daft it is to be a married man's bit on the side, so they get an escort when they can afford it or set a woman up in a home , car etc so that she is there for him, sort of like a second wife. After all, if he is taking care of the first wife and the second wife gives him sex she should be taken care of too. But most men cannot afford this or they are too mean so they try to get it for free and fail.

[Idonthaveausername]

That just sounds like a lonely, paranoid, deceitful life for those guys. I do not envy it and hope I never have to deal with another cheater or his mistress again, especially if I get married

One of my friends has a sugar daddy to help pay her bills. She is trying to financially support herself without him though and just started a new job

[bethshepherd]

Good for you and good for your friend. Nothing wrong with any arrangement where there is give and take. She gives her company and sex and he gives money, so long as both are happy with it and neither are lying to the other. It makes me laugh when some ugly common half wit expects the same for free.,

[Anonymous]

Guys who touch inappropriately
Guys who say graphic sexual things to people they aren’t involved with
Guys who try to get sex from minors
Guys who follow people around
Guys who call you vulgar names
Guys who get angry you won’t go out with them or sleep with them
Guys who push people to drink too much to sleep with them
Guys who trap people in corners or follow them into dark places
Guys who try to have sex with unconscious people
Guys who use trickery or force for sex
Guys who peep, expose themselves, steal underwear, take unwanted videos, rub on unwilling people, etc

[Opinion Owner]

This can be women too.

[Anonymous]

I've been called a creep many times. And I've looked at my behavior to see what I had been doing to cause it. It was always in a semi-quiet place in public. With a young attractive lady or young mother who had called me out. For "creeping" on her and/or her kids.

From what I gather. All that happened was I happened to be in the same vasinity as them. And with the mom her kids would do something cute or funny. And I'd watch and smile at them. Because kids are cute.
Problem is. I'm not very self aware. So I didn't notice when the mom saw me watching her kids and would glare at me. I guess. Cause then after a few minutes she'd either leave and one of the people who worked there or apparently knows her would tell me to cut it out.
Or she'd tell me to cut it out. Both because I'm being "a creep." And then leave.

With young or attractive girls I would honestly probably be staring at them a lot. (The only ones who this happened with were wearing very low cut shirts or really short skirts or shorts. There was plenty to stare at.) And it catches my attention. And I'd kind of be staring at her cleavage or legs. Because they're showing. And I know that's bad but she's right there. And I did apologize in these cases.
Again apparently I should have known when to stop. But I never realize if they see me watching them or not. And then either she or one of her friends would come over and tell me to stop being a creep.

So from what I know. Being a creep means staring at someone for a long period of time and/or smiling at them a lot. Even after they are made uncomfortable by it.

[Idonthaveausername]

Yea you have come to the right conclusion. With the children, they're worried about pedophiles. The girls wearing skanky clothing don't really have any room to complain, but it is polite to look away if they seem visibly uncomfortable with it

[Opinion Owner]

Ya I know that. I just suck at telling if they're uncomfortable. And it's hard to pay attention to that when other stuff is showing... but I have gotten a little better at it.

[Aynsof]

Well I am not sure how to define it I don't really use the term much...
It seems to be more a term used by women
It seems as a term used to describe someone women get a bad vibe from for whatever reason justified or not
And it is there a bit we run into problems since it is an often rather arbitrarily applied term
You mention a few examples and sure if you read the situation correctly you can call them creeps... the person stalking you in the supermarket could just have been there getting stuff not caring at all about you being there of course I was not so I cannot say but it is sometimes thrown around a bit to easily
The real issue though is more the way it is with some women thankfully not all but some women will label one guy a creep for approaching them because they did not find him attractive and not label another guy a creep for approaching them because they find that one attractive
If one guy comes up and says hi and gets labelled a creep while another guy comes up and says hi and does not... That is a little arbitrary and that is why it is a problem

[Idonthaveausername]

Well the guy followed me across Wal-Mart 3 times and then left his wallet on the register so he could wait until I paid for my groceries. I had to tell the cop to not let him follow me out

I have called many hot guys creeps for groping me and have never called anyone a creep for something as simple as saying hi

[Aynsof]

Ok yes I can see the grocery store situation like that would be a little creepy
And for groping you that is fair too
It is good that you don't call people creeps for saying hi but some women routinely do that If it is not someone they are interested and to my mind at least that is not fair
Not all women are like that but as it so often is with these things all women get blamed for what some do just as all the things some men do we all get blamed for

[Desconhecida]

Creep: " What are you wearing?"

[AlwaysBelieving]

Yeah, that sounds creepy. Though it sounds like something that would be said over the phone.

[Desconhecida]

Creeps dont care about proper etiquette @AlwaysBelieving hehehe

[AlwaysBelieving]

You mean this happened when said person was standing in front of you? Couldn’t the person see what you were wearing?

[JellyDonutguy96]

uh khakis

[Benedek38]

"I call the guys who stalk me in the grocery store in the middle of the night creeps. I call guys who grope me creeps. I call that guy who tried to followed me 20 minutes home from the gas station a creep. And I call those guys last night who wanted to kidnap me creeps"

Congratulations!
You summed up our problems!
1) How do you know he was following you? Most grocery stores are small, and have limited ways to commute.
2) Even if he is hot, and you want it?
3) Maybe he wasn't following you. Maybe you just happened to walk the same path.
4) I am pretty sure nobody actually wants to kidnap you. If they did, they would have. It's not that difficult.

Girls might not SAY you are a creep (sometimes they do, but not always), but disgust, fear, or contempt have pretty recognizable facial expressions.
And the thing is, you are fucking paranoid. You assume every guy wants to rape, murder, or kidnap you. Imagine living with the burden of assumption that you are evil, or have ulterior motives! Yeah, it's like that.

You want to sit down and talk with a few girls at the table next to you in a pub?
"Excuse me, would you mind if I sat down?"
"... could you not?" - she said with obvious disgust.

[He-Loves-Me-Not]

Guess what? Some women think that because they’ve been abused, raped, kidnapped, or/and assaulted.
We have a right to be scared of those things, just like men. We have a right to be scared of someone physically and naturally stronger. Have you heard the news lately?

[Benedek38]

@He-Loves-Me-Not
"Some women think that because they’ve been abused, raped, kidnapped, or/and assaulted."
So? Is giving people the benefit of the doubt not worth a damn anymore?
How would you feel if I said that I assume every woman is a psychotic, cheating slut just because I had a few bad experiences? I bet your reaction would be "That's misogyny, most women are not like that, grow up!"

"We have a right to be scared of those things, just like men."
That wasn't the issue. You have the right to be scared. The question is - doesn't paranoia feed hatred towards the other sex? Aren't you sexist for assuming negative intentions from all men?

"Have you heard the news lately?"
Yeah, I hear all kinds of news. Which one do you think of? Because I like this one in particular!
edition.cnn.com/.../index.html

[Pit1981]

You totally right. I get often called "creep". I have difficulty hiding my feeling. Best thing to do is probably stay honest. If the girl is pretty, then I apologise for the "creepy situation" and give her a compliment. Then I move away, because I don't want it to be awkward.. I don't know if that the best thing to do.. but so far, I never had any problem doing that.

[Idonthaveausername]

1) Because he followed my across the store 3 times. My Walmart is not a small store. And he intentionally left his wallet on the register so he could wait while I scanned all of my groceries and try to follow me out

2) Yes I thought the "hot guy" with very nice cheek bones who tried to lure me into his car with vodka was a total creep, especially when he groped me and tried to lure me into a corner later. No I don't "want it"

3) He followed me driving for 20 minutes and only passed me when I slowed down to 25mph on a 45mph road, then sped up out of sight--he was following me

4) They surrounded me and said "We're definitely taking her home" and it was difficult because my friend stepped in and stopped them

5) If a girl looks at you with disgust, fear, or contempt, you've obviously done something waaaay past creepy. She is entitled to decline your invasion of her social group/personal space

[Benedek38]

1) Understandable. Still, if you have doubts about someone's intentions, don't project it to all men. You wouldn't like to be judged because of crazy broads, would you?

2) Uhm... So you DIDN'T find him creepy, did you? You (almost?) got into his car, fawning over his cheekbones, and almost got blackout drunk from vodka - so my assumption was kind of correct. You DO make assumptions about intent based on attractiveness.

by the way I meant that if you want the guy to grope you. e. g. you two have a sexual relationship or something.

3) So you are telling me that he was going on the same route for 20 minutes, and then he got lost when your slow ass blocked him?
If he wanted to do something with you, don't you think he would have... done something with you? Like, oh, I don't know - block your way, drag you out of the car and kidnap you?
I have been "followed" for way longer than 20 minutes - because guess what? Traffic control is a bitch and people think alike.

[continued]

[Benedek38]

4) "They surrounded me and said "We're definitely taking her home" and it was difficult because my friend stepped in and stopped them"
Your friend was a woman. Don't you think if tehy wanted to kidnap you, they could have dealt with two women? 3 guys vs 2 fragile women.
And OBVIOUSLY they were teasing you. Do you REALLY have zero sense of humor? If you didn't like it, you can always just say "Well, guys, if you want to take me home, you gotta work for it. Whoever can talk half a liter of vodka can fuck me like a horse" - hint - probably none of them can down 5 dl of spirit, so they'd either back down, or end up blackout drunk.
You have to learn banter, and realise that not everyone is out for your blood.

[Benedek38]

5) "If a girl looks at you with disgust, fear, or contempt, you've obviously done something waaaay past creepy."
Oh really? Or I didn't. Or maybe I am right, and women stereotype men based on their appearance.
You expect me to believe that guys wanted bad things from you, but you refuse to believe the simplest thing that happened to me many times. I have never hurt a woman in my life, expect for my sister (we used to fight a lot, but we both dished out hits so it was fair. Plus i was like 12). I have never groped, raped, assaulted, tried to intoxicate, or in any way abuse or exploit women. I wasn't tacky or pushy, or intrusive. I just have an ugly mug.
Honestly you sound like the kind of person who would be disdainful towards guys like me just for asking you out. But I don't want to stereotype you until I know more about you.

[Idonthaveausername]

1) I don't accuse all men of being creepy and have explicitly laid out what I think is creepy in serous situations. And I'm not crazy--I'm a redhead

2) No I didn't almost get into his car--I threatened to cut his dick off because he was being creepy. And I was already drunk, so I didn't need his vodka

3) He followed my for 20 minutes while I drive under the speed limit on the highway, and followed my off. There is no traffic at 3AM

Groping is creepy and unacceptable behavior

4) My friend was bigger than them and let them know it. I didn't hear them plotting to kidnap me because I was trying to get a drink of water and they were blocking me. And I don't sleep with people, so that's just crude and gross

5) It sounds like you're the one whose paranoid of being creepy. If a girl is scared of you, you're being creepy

[4nication]

First off, women are not exactly unskilled at Machiavellian machinations... Witness feminist Twitter-mobs in full bloom. I've had feminists gang up on me several times when I disagreed with one of them.

Second, imagine being a young boy and hearing this shit all the time. "Creep", "Pig", etc. It's not just women - did you hear Rudi Guiliani call men "disposable" the other day when he was talking about the media criticizing Ivanka Trump? That is internalized misandry if I ever heard it - or if it exists. Maybe men just are more disposable? Why would we send so many off to be killed in wars otherwise?

You say that men misinterpret what it means. I don't know about other men, but when I was growing up, my mother was depressed, and she blamed my father for this. Which may not have been 100% unfair, but it wasn't the whole story either. I also gather she had a difficult relationship with her dad. So I'm not trying to belittle her. It was just that growing up, I rarely heard a kind word from her to my father. Whereas he tried hard to please her (maybe partly out of guilt). Add to that the fact that in general, you just rarely hear women out and out praise men. I feel like the vast majority of what women say about men is negative. But maybe I'm biased because of my parents' relationship.

This would not be much of a problem if boys didn't have to approach girls and men didn't have to approach women. But that's the way it works. Which is why I find it cruel that some women are so vocal about men's shortcomings.

I'm still trying to convince myself that I'm not a creep or a burden for wanting a girlfriend. And I don't know if I'll ever manage it. I am 34. This stuff has basically ruined my life.

[Before_I_Fall]

A 'creep' has nothing to do with their looks or gender.

A creep is a person, who texts inappropriately without a recognition of social constructs. Example: You don't call a stranger with nicknames unless you are on a dating site (inappropriate names on dating sites is also a creepy thing to send to a stranger.)

A creep is a person who doesn't take no for answer and won't stop bothering you after you have rejected them. They still keep on trying to talk to you even though you feel uncomfortable and have told them to stop.

A creep is a person who makes others feel uncomfortable.

[Idonthaveausername]

I concur with everything here. And I absolutely agree a creep can be male or female because I've experienced and seen both as well

[glenns]

To the OP: I got bad news for your self esteem (which looks clinically like arrogance), but do you remember the creep who was stalking you in the middle of the store last night? He wasn't. He was just in a hurry to get to the check out because he remembered he left his stove on at home, so he was running around behind you, quickly getting what he needed. And the guy who groped you? More bad news: he just bumped into you as you were standing in line to pay your cover charge at the club; after all, it was packed. What of the guy who followed you for 20 minutes? Hello! As luck would have it, He lives in the same complex as you and just happened to be heading home at the same time you were. Sorry, I know your self esteem is taking a beating over all this... And the guys who tried to kidnap you last night? This is like the final nail in the coffin, but when you slam into a bus stop after drinking and driving then try to drive away from the scene... Hello! They ain't kidnapping you; they're apprehending you until the police arrive.
Geez. A woman's arrogance can be her own worst enemy...

[He-Loves-Me-Not]

Are you stupid? You weren't there, so you don't know what the hell you’re talking about.

[Ellie-V]

What the hell is wrong with you? I bet you would justify rape...

[Idonthaveausername]

Well I didn't go to the store last night, but I remember the guy who followed me for an hour back across the store twice, intentionally left his wallet on the checkout lane so I would mention it, and then stood there while I rang up a cart full of groceries... and yes the cop did stop him from following me out... that was creepy

Guy who groped me? No, no, no, no, no. I was groped by 4 guys just last night, not counting the ones who tried to kidnap me... and I actually walked around with my friend for another hour because I didn't feel comfortable driving under the influence. The guy the police arrested was the one who couldn't pass his field sobriety test/striped shirt guy

And that creepy old guy who asked me in the gas station if I was out there often at 2AM and then followed me for 20 minutes and only passed me when I slowed down to 25MPH ona 45MPH street did not live in the same complex as me--nobody with a purple truck lives in my complex

[glenns]

An old man driving a bright purple truck...
Shopping in a store for over an hour late at night, endlessly snaking through the aisles not once, but twice...
Then perceiving being groped by not one but four 'gropers', with at least two kidnappers trying to kidnap you, all the while being so intoxicated from the effects of alcohol that you self admitted your mind isn't in its right frame to drive...
Yep, what we have here is a model of honesty and truthfulness, folks!
... An old pervert driving a bright purple truck... Hahaha, where do you people come up with this stuff?

[glenns]

@ elliev: at first I thought I was replying to an egotist--so self absorbed that she thinks the entire male world is out to grope her, kidnap her and endlessly follow her apparently because she's so awesome. Then from the last reply, it became apparent that it wasn't egoism she suffers from, but rather paranoid delusions brought about by the effects of overindulgence to alcoholic beverages.
Note trek me how this constitutes justifying rape?
Geez you people have mashed taters in the brain

[Idonthaveausername]

I've been groped by way more than 4 guys in my lifetime--that was just this weekend

I was only under the influence of one alcoholic beverage during these instances, and I didn't even drink the whole thing

There were 3 guys who wanted to kidnap me and they could tell I was under the influence if alcohol, so yes that would be rape if they had tried. I am not interested in sleeping around, so it would be rape regardless of having the drink or not

I am certainly not paranoid. I am an attractive girl and men do seek to take advantage of me. I have been in dangerous situations in the past and was able to avoid anything bad happening to me by being aware of the creeps around me who are in denial that their views of misbehavior are incorrect

[JSmuve]

I personally hate the word creep because it gets thrown around way too cavalierly. Often times its either just a miscommunication, the person lacks social skills or has some developmental disorder, one party is way too fucking sensitive, or the person is tweaking on drugs. It can be uncomfortable, sure, but that's life.

Oh, and as per your never seeing a girl call a guy a "creep" for asking her out, I'd refer you to the late 20s anonymous broad below who said "to me any random guy that i dont know coming up to me and asking me out is creepy". There you go. I'm sure she's not the only one and its girls like her that guys envision when they're wondering whether or not to approach.

[Idonthaveausername]

I agree with the first part, but that I see more guys throwing it around than girls

She maybe an outlier, but I do understand her not being comfortable with strangers approaching her, especially if she's alone. Think about all the homeschooled kids who never had real social interaction as children and are therefore less comfortable than others as adults

[JSmuve]

But the approacher shouldn't be punished because the approachee was never properly socialized. If she feels uncomfortable in those sorts of situations then that would be on her to deal with it and grow from it. Otherwise, she'd be restricting herself to dealing with people she's used to. Networking and interacting with strangers to form new relationships is an important life skill and a guy shouldn't be punished or viewed negatively because some woman was never put in a position to develop those skills.

[youmustbejoking]

The approacher shouldn't have a preconceived notion or expectation of a response from someone.
If a compliment is genuine, a person's response to it, does not invalidate it. It would be true regardless. If you actually mean what you say and it's true, it wouldn't require a response at all.

[JSmuve]

@youmustbejoking so if someone speaks to me I shouldn't acknowledge them? That's a really shitty thing to do

[halfbowsey]

@youmustbejoking being creepy does exist but some girl use it inappropriately. Or you think that's not true?

[JellyDonutguy96]

yeah
autists get labeled it a lot

[JellyDonutguy96]

most developmentally disabled people are pretty freaking looking though,

you may be pure at heart but messed up in appearance, that's a creep

[youmustbejoking]

I agree that it gets thrown around a lot, which makes the real deal less noticed and taken seriously

[youmustbejoking]

Of course. Acknowledging others is the polite thing to do. Women though, more so than men, are taught to be accommodating and polite almost to a fault. It starts to become pretense and sometimes women put their own safety at risk by just trying to be polite.

[LittleMissLib]

I don't really call anyone a "creep" unless of course they're stalkers, lechers, and peeping toms. That or they're badgering me on social media numerous times wanting to snag a date with me. 🙄 Even though they know I'm ignoring them and it's clear that I'm. Not. Interested. 😊😊😊 *sarcastic smile*

If you act like a creep don't get mad when you get called out. Simple...

[Idonthaveausername]

The ones who get mad are the worst. I once had a guy tell all his friends I was a bitch for screaming at him when he came up behind me and put his hand on my thigh

[LittleMissLib]

Yikes! Yeah that guy definitely fits the "creep" mold.

[Belgie]

Act creepy, get called a creep. It's not rocket science. The guys who seem so fearful of this sound like turbo autists, utterly clueless about basic social interactions. What makes me think they are not on the spectrum as neuro-atypicals, is the way they blame women for their failure and the utter insistence that they did nothing wrong. Yeah, you're just a creep.

[AllThatSweetJazz]

So then if they did nothing wrong and still get called a creep then something has gone wrong on women's end, right? It's not rocket science.

[Belgie]

@AllThatSweetJazz You didn't read very well, did you?

Women don't throw that term around. If it's happened to you so often that now you're afraid of it happening, you have not encountered a string of unusually sensitive women. You are a creep.

[AllThatSweetJazz]

I have never heard it said to me personally, but I've read the countless instances of it happening on here an other places. Creepy and disparaging remarks in general get thrown around all the time.

[Idonthaveausername]

Finally a guy who gets it! Yes!

"Creep" onlyg gets used when the situation or actions merit it

[AllThatSweetJazz]

We know you think that. That's the whole point.

[Belgie]

@AllThatSweetJazz She's not the only one. The only guys I've ever encountered with this fear have been on this website, wondering why the stranger they followed and proposed to, called him creepy, when all he reasonably wanted was to bring her back to India to be married.

[AllThatSweetJazz]

By 'you' I didn't mean just her. The point remains.

Obviously I'm not talking about following people or seriously proposing to them randomly.

[Anonymous]

Attractive or unattractive just liking and asking the girl doesn't make the guy a creep.
Creep is -
Touching a girl inappropriately
Making her phone ring continuously
Making inappropriate comments
Sending inappropriate messages or pictures on her phone.
Late in the night winking , smiling , and following us ( this is when we get into panic state)

[Idonthaveausername]

Especially the late at night one. I get that a lot because I work late. 4 AM in Wal-Mart is not the time to hit on a girl

[MimiHashima]

A guy that’s at your work place, doesn’t know you much cept for a few days or a week, and tells ya one day he wants to pick out your lingerie for a one night stay or as friends with benefits just cause they think you’re body is amazing and they want to get in bed (literally said) with you... dear jebus..🤦‍♀️

[Idonthaveausername]

Waaaaaaay creepy

[MimiHashima]

Yep.. being careful at work now..

[aestheticsofty]

Touching you. Trying too hard to make you fall for him. Staring at you intensely or creepily. Staring for long periods of time. Trying to make you laugh all the time. Bragging about themselves.

[Idonthaveausername]

Ooh the staring is a bad one

[Omar5881]

Trying to make you laugh all the time? Bragging about themselves I mean you can call them negative traits or turn offs but creepy?

[aestheticsofty]

Creepy, because they want you so bad so they try to make you like or desire them. It shows desperation and extreme persistence.

[attics]

It is a kinda hard one to define.
Guys who catcall online are kinda creepy. Irl it's not as bad - still sucks, but more offensive/annoying than creepy. I think the anonymity contributes to the creep factor.
People that ask for nudes right off the bat are creep. People you don't know that comment on your appearance are kinda creepy, especially if they start the comment/message with something like "Not to sound creepy..." etc.
There is a bit of stigma attached to less attractive guys flirting that comes off as creepy. Unfortunate but true. Depends on delivery as well. I'm sure most people would rather have Channing Tatum ask them out than McLovin.
All the examples you listed are accurate too. I hope my contribution was worthwhile.

[Idonthaveausername]

Catcalls are definitely a debatable one... still remember those guys in a horse carriage yelling "Taco legs!" at my friend and I, but it was pretty harmless. Most of the time I don't think catcalling is creepy, but it can be offensive and annoying

Nudes and anything overtly sexual are creepy in my opinion as well

I don't call unattractive guys creepy, but I do if they look more than 10-15 years older than me

Delivery is probably the biggest defining factor. Like if a guy comes up and says "Oh I saw you and thought you were cute dancing" is a lot less creepy than "I've been watching you... you're dancing..." or if a guy comes up behind you so you can't see him

Your contribution is worthwhile

[Ceramic_bloke]

The guy from Turkey who told my girlfriend he loved her and he'd fly from Turkey to be with her.
After one conversation. Whilst also begging for a picture.

The guy the other day who told her he was masturbating for her.

And the countless others who tell her how horny they are and how much they want to see her so they can wank better.

Also Lord Baelish.

[bethshepherd]

All of those guys are pathetic losers and creeps. There are women who work online doing Skype, photos, emails etc, they should pay them, not ask normal decent women for it or try to get it free.

[Ceramic_bloke]

They're desperate.
Some are probably looking to prey on the vulnerable who inevitably end up on apps like this.

[Idonthaveausername]

Ooh Turkey guy is incredibly desperate. Luckily she has you to fend off those creeps

Lol Lord Baelish isn't the only creep on that show

[Ceramic_bloke]

They never believe me at first. Then they get angry as if I'm the one trying to steal their girl. I know it hurts them though so they can get as angry as they like 👍

Also yes, but Baelish is just so cringy at the same time 😂😂

[HRiva]

Our safety is in your hands and being a girl i understand and agree with you but then always remember this even though as girls we have to be careful but then we should be bold enough not to let any injustice happen to us and wise enough to make right choices so that we dont have to face ( creepy) situations and if we do we should be bold enough so nobody dares mess with us :)

[Idonthaveausername]

I completely agree with that. I busted my hand up on some guy's face a couple months ago because he kept groping me and wouldn't take "no" for an answer

[HRiva]

He needed that hahaaa

[HRiva]

But now he will not dare mess with you again :)

[Benedek38]

Sorry to break it to you, but from a logical perspective - she is wounded now. This is the best time to strike.
by the way the front of the head is probably the most secure part of your body. If you don't train, you will dislocate a joint of break a finger with a powerful strike to the forehead.

probably the best idea as a newbie to martial arts is to strike with the heel of the palm, that tends to be a less painful, but more effective striking surface.

[HRiva]

I agree with you females must learn martial arts its really good and can be used for self defense when needed :) but if one wants to learn as hobby then also its benefitial :)

[HRiva]

And thanks for sharing knowledge :)

[Idonthaveausername]

@Benedek38
Haha, logic wasn't something he was using. I wasn't wounded, just cracked the skin open and bruised for a couple days. Actually my giant of a friend I brought with me that day had to get in between us so I couldn't throw any more punches at him because I was pissed and ready to take him down

I would like to take a self-defense class for situations like these though. I normally aim for the throat (I'm not tall enough to punch most people in the forehead) to collapse the esophagus, but I couldn't really see because of the strobe lights, so I ended up connecting with his mouth

[Benedek38]

"Haha, logic wasn't something he was using."
Fight logic. It's subconscious. I have experienced it from both sides. You see a weak point, an opening, you strike.
Case in point: Watch the first few clips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iebZoPXXGo&t=46s
"I threw that uppercut with bad intentions" - he wasn't trying to be an ass, but instinct took over.

"I wasn't wounded, just cracked the skin open and bruised for a couple days."
Yeah, because you didn't strike too hard. Ask a martial artist, you can actually break your hands on someone's skull if you don't know how to strike, and are strong enough. I have personally dislocated a joint before. It was painful.

"I was pissed and ready to take him down"
Now THAT I would have liked to see? Height, weight, martial arts experience? Because unless you are 6 feet tall and 180 lbs, I think you'll find that guys have a better chance in grappling/wrestling than girls. Even then, it is dubious.

[continued]

[Benedek38]

"I would like to take a self-defense class for situations like these"
Don't, it's not worth it.
Women's self-defense classes are generally watered down jiu jitsu classes mixed with useless shit.
Listen to this guy, he is a pro fighter:
https://youtu.be/G10uv57Romo
https://youtu.be/5ezrKYRKzo0

"I normally aim for the throat (I'm not tall enough to punch most people in the forehead) to collapse the esophagus"
Stupid idea. You most likely won't hit it.
If you will, you can kill someone, which WILL get you in prison.
If you won't, and this is a lot more likely, because you probably don't have good punching technique, you will just anger the attacker.
The best course of action if your attacker is stronger is to avoid fighting, or run away. Sorry, but this is the truth. Unless you are an expert martial artist, chances are you're going to lose.
The throat is NOT a knockout place. If you are weaker, your best chance is a knockout. For that, you have to hit the jaws. But that's hard.

[Benedek38]

"but I couldn't really see because of the strobe lights, so I ended up connecting with his mouth "
Great way to get the shit kicked out of you.
HINT: If you are going to throw a sucker punch, make sure to make it the last one you have to throw. Right hook squarely on the jaw. Anything less won't suffice. Or you can try the Krav Maga method of kicking people in the genitals, but that still leaves a chance of getting the shit beaten out of you.

[Idonthaveausername]

@Benedek38
Um... no... I'm 5', 120... but I had 3 older siblings and fought with all of them and my parents growing up. I can take down someone who's bigger than me if I get a throat punch or groin kick in or get a good handheld on their hair or bite them. But most of the time I can avoid fights by acting tough because most people know us shorties fight dirty and they get scared about me not being scared of them. But for sure it's incredibly easy for someone whose pretty big to overpower me if they get the upper hand

[Benedek38]

"I can take down someone who's bigger than me if I get a throat punch or groin kick in or get a good handheld on their hair or bite them."

Please don't be offended when I quote a G. O. A. T.:
"Everybody's got a plan until they get hit in the mouth."

If you want to get humbled, all I can suggest is join a BJJ/MMA class.

[Idonthaveausername]

@Benedek38
Well I know I'd have no chance against a real fighter. One of the girls I used to work with is getting into MMA and I wouldn't want to tangle with her. My point is I can and will defend myself if I need to, but I know anybody with an upper hand will get the best of me due to being so small regardless

[Benedek38]

Whatever. Just don't think that you have a right to be aggressive to people because you are small. If you bite someone, I guarantee you, they WILL be angry. And biting is again, not a KO technique, so you have a stronger, angry opponent on your hand.

[Idonthaveausername]

@Benedek38
I only get aggressive once someone has already picked a fight with me. I have this guy three chances before punching him. This weekends there was one guy I had to politely tell I didn't want to get violent with him, and he backed off, so there wasn't a problem. The only time I had to bite a guy was when he stole my glasses, that way he released them, then someone bigger than him made him leave

[HRiva]

The best way is to keep calm n cool and use KO technique to defend your self against injustice by guy ( trained/ general) only if he does not listen to you 1 to 2 times politely and yes self defense is imp these days :)

[Benedek38]

You don't give people "chances" to not punch them. That's not how a fight works. What you are describing is a sucker punch, and is generally considered a dick move. Generally fights start with light physical confrontation, shoving, pushing, etc.
If you punch someone out of the blue, even after I tell you right here, right now, that it is a dick move, then I will say that you deserve any beating you will get (and youI WILL get it).
Sorry, but anybody who suckerpunches people, I have zero respect for.

And if you can't contain situations without threatening people with violence, you will have a hard time in life. Sorry, but this is reality.

[HRiva]

Nobody wants to use physical until it is needed and calm down buddy we are not here to argue :)

[Benedek38]

I wouldn't be upset if I hadn't been physically insulted by women because they perceived my behaviour as a threat. It happened to me a few times, and I think it is appalinh zhat

[Benedek38]

Appaling that they think they can get away with threatenijg and punching me in the face just because they THINK I want something bad from them.

[HRiva]

You shouldn't touch a women after she refuses 1 st time its a clear hint she is not interested buddy :)

[HRiva]

I think i said 2 to 3 times politely

[HRiva]

When a women says no politely that dont do it its a clear thing she's not interested that the man should touch her body.:)

[Benedek38]

Who said I touched anyone? Nobody said anything about touching. And even then, just straight up hitting somebody is against the natural progression of a conflict, and severely escalates it. What you could solve with a slap on the wrist, or a slap to the face, just turned into a fight. If a guy did that, he'd be beaten the shit out of. Just imagine grabbing the butt of a cute guy, teasing him, and then him smashing your face in with his fists. Yeah. Does that sound proportional?

[HRiva]

I would never do that to a guy even if i am interested in him :-) thats not the way to aproach anyone

[Idonthaveausername]

@Benedek38
The guy I was talking about had been given many chances. The first time he groped me, I told him to stop. The second time, I lightly kicked him in the butt. The third time, I lightly kicked him in the balls and told him not to do it again or it would hurt. He then proceeded to grope every girl and even the other guys were getting uncomfortable because he was so drunk and forcing himself on people. He grabbed my was one more time, so I turned around and decked him. That does not qualify as a sucker punch because I warned him several times before. After I punched him, he was taken away in a cop car, and one of his friends apologized to me for having to deal with him. And one of the other girls thanked me for punching him because he had been groping her too

Just because I resorted to violence does not excuse his behavior. I was defending myself and every girl in there from this creep

[Benedek38]

@Idonthaveausername
No offense, but this sounds like a made up story. I have been to many bars in my life, and every time a guy was behaving badly with a girl, he was immediately apprehanded by other guys. So the idea that he could grope every girl, and that guys did nothing - that just doesn't happen. This is a pure fabrication.

[Idonthaveausername]

@Benedek38
Well you don't get points for being a skeptic. It really happened. We were all waiting for the bouncers to throw them out, but they never did. We were all glad they called one of the cops over to get him to leave. And I got free drinks the next time I went back for having to deal with that creep

[Benedek38]

I am not being skeptical to "get points", I am doing kt because it is the most efficient way of reaching an ideal consensus about a subject.

So now you are telling me the guy was
-groping several women - they all loudly objected.
-being obviously way too drunk and aggressive.
and the security staff, who have the training and authorization to remove him, didn't do it? Sorry, this is bullshit. I actually know several security guys, and they are trained to stop these kinds of incidents by the roots. They wouldn't allow a guy to do half of this.

Sorry, but you are making a terrible case here. I don't believe what you say is true - it is either entirely fabricated, or you are twisting the story to make youe point clearer, and we both know this.

[Idonthaveausername]

@Benedek38
And that's the problem. Yes they are trained to deal with these problems, but the problem is they didn't do anything about it, so I had to resort to violence to defend myself, my friend, and all the other girl's in there. Obviously the staff realized it was a problem at that point because they removed him from the premesise and had one of the cops appointed to that district to physically remove him because he wouldn't leave. You can be skeptical all you want, but you're wrong. You can go back and read everything I've said and confirm that my story is consistent even though it's been several days since we started this

And my guy friend should've stepped in when my girl friend and I told him about this guy, but he didn't either. This situation was a failure of men to protect women when they should've, when they were trained to

At this point you're just being a troll and I hope no girl who cares about you ever had to deal with your bullshit

[Drake]

Someone overly clingy and needy, idc how ugly or beautiful she is, its annoying and creepy
Or a girl who happens to find me everywhere, id start asking myself some serious questions
A girl that doesn't laugh with my jokes, can't trust em at all

[eimi001]

good definition. lol

[Mckerney]

xDDDD

[Idonthaveausername]

Yes happening to find you everywhere can turn into stalking, so very creepy

But not laughing at your jokes? Lol

[Anonymous]

The word "creep" correctly applies to instances you described here. However, many girls go well beyond that. E. g. I was once chatting with a girl over several days. Was going really well until we exchange some pictures. Her tone changed and before long, she said I was "creepy" and ghosted me. I don't expect every girl to like me but saying I was creepy was really hurtful.

Anyway, sorry to hear your kidnap experience. Hope you're okay

[Idonthaveausername]

Well that's unfortunate and she shouldn't have called you creepy in that case. She should have just fessed up that she wasn't attracted to you

Thank you. I didn't even know they were plotting it until later when my friend who saved me from them told me afterwards. That's why I never go out alone

[Opinion Owner]

I sent her an instant selfie while she sent a heavily filtered Snapchat pic with all the animal accessories. That was annoying in the first place. Not sure if I'd have found her attractive myself so didn't mind that she moved on. Just the creepy word which is all sorts of things I know I'm not

[Idonthaveausername]

Ugh Snapchat! You're definitely better off without her. Try to forget about her and don't let her words get to you too much

[Ellie-V]

Creeps are people who give unwanted/unnecessary attention to a person (usually a stranger). And whether they know it or not, the person they’re preying on gets very uncomfortable.

[bethshepherd]

I have had private messages from guys here - often a third of my age - ugly, boring - thinking that all they have to do is tell me they are wnking or desperate or lonely or like older women and I must say yes. Pathetic.

[Ellie-V]

Very

[IlyaTheImpaler]

Creep is subjective, it's all about how you feel towards the individual, the vibe they give out. So they could do all the polite things but if you are scared of their look for example, they are creeps.

[Idonthaveausername]

Yes it can be subjective. Don't know where these downvotes are coming from lol. People who look scary and intimidating in a way that makes you uncomfortable or fearful can be called creeps

For example, I'm only 5 feet tall, so someone who invades my personal space who is much taller than me creeps me out because they could easily kidnap me or something

[IlyaTheImpaler]

they come from people with sub 70 IQ 😂

[MrKinktastic]

From what I've seen women tend to call men creeps when the women aren't interested and the men keep trying anyways.

[Idonthaveausername]

I can agree with that. Unwanted repeated advances makes you a creep

[MrKinktastic]

I think that ones pretty universal, though I'm sure people use the term for others as well that are less clear cut.

[oliver_tulipp]

Creep is someone who give you the chills in a wrong way, make the hair on your neck stand. Like an Adult knowing there texting a child “where do you live?” The guy at the bar that just stares at you and he know your uncomfortable. That girl that stalks your Instagram and follows where you go or meets your friends “randomly” . I think it’s interchangeable with the word weirdo.

[halfbowsey]

You shouldn't be in the bar. He's probably wondering why they let you in :)

[oliver_tulipp]

😂😂😂🤫