i have the opposite problem. i have a permanent smile, so there is no way to tell if it's real or fake so most people will assume im fake if im not interested in them
I don't mind any of those things but I hate being told to smile or being asked "what's wrong?" I thought my resting bitch face would keep people away not incite dumb remarks
i think in guys it's called RAF, short for resting asshole face and i suffer from it. even though i'm a guy one of my professors once asked me "Do you ever smile?" in a really condescending tone. he was just a dick. if i remember correctly i've been told that a few more times.
You know that face you get after crying, that's what some of my co-workers said before but i'm pretty used to looking at it also like the face you get when you just woke up and they took me easy but they got used to it.
Fun fact : I'm not a girl, but I also have a resting bitch face, so I can relate to the struggles, especially since I'm shy too. On the bright side, seeing a girl with a RBF smile is worth all the gold in the world, it's so genuine and expressive.
Despite me knowing RBF is a thing, I tend to be intimidated nonetheless. To be fair, I'm intimidated by other girls in as well.
I have a terrible habit of eye-rolling. I don't even do it on purpose, it just appears because of the way my eyes move I guess, I don't know. I don't even roll my eyes intentionally that often. With teachers and stuff, it's a nightmare. LOL
No I'm not going to approach you if you look intimidating, mean, moody, and bitch. Oh you're shy? Guess what, guys can be shy too but nobody cares but nobody cares, they have to go outside their comfort zone anyway. If you want more than just the guys who don't care what kind of mood you appear in to approach you, then you need to appear approachable
If I want a guy to approach me, I will send signals to him that I like him. But what if he sees me doing my thing and I didn't notice him but he thinks I'm interesting, of course I'd be off guard and my natural RBF is what he's going to see. But you can't judge someone because of their face! lol Maybe they're just busy? or focused on something or just read a scary email? Wow. So a person's face will just send you away because of their cold expression? Won't you at least get to know them first before judging them?
"But you can't judge someone because of their face! lol Maybe they're just busy? or focused on something or just read a scary email? Wow. So a person's face will just send you away because of their cold expression?"
A woman's face is literally the first thing a man notices about her. If all he sees is resting bitch face and he actually cares what kind of mood you appear to be in, then he will most likely assume you're not in an approachable state
It probably won't get that far which is what a lot of shy girls with resting bitch face say: they don't feel they're approached as much as their friends who actually look approachable
Again if we're talking about guys that actually care what kind of mood a girl appears to be in, they're not just gonna assume the girl that looks like she wants everyone to leave her the hell alone is actually just a nice shy girl with resting bitch face, they're gonna assume she's in a bad mood and wants to be left the hell alone
I feel your frustration, Pinay_ako, but you have to also realise that in this scenario, you are the only constant. Humans read each other within a few nanoseconds, and that has a huge impact on how we perceive someone-- including their "approachability". You can also thank feminists telling men that, in order to approach a girl, she has to basically wave him over and suck his dick then and there lol. This is a post #metoo world where men can lose their jobs coz a girl they made out with 5 years ago suddenly decides she felt "uncomfortable". So if we see a girl who looks "cold" towards us, and isn't giving signs of being open to approach, then we'll just play it safe and stay away. That said, there's a difference between "neutral" and "scowling" expressions. I'm not saying to be all fake smiles and sunshine, but if your face is naturally tensed up, eyebrows furrowed, etc, then maybe try some relaxation exercises to relax the musculature around your eyes, brows, jaw, etc. If a woman looks tense, we likely won't approach. If she look neutral mood, but basically relaxed, then we'll relax too and therefore more likely to approach.
@SomeGuyCalledTom I feel you too. I do try to watch my expression sometimes because I don't want to to appear bitchy when I am really not. But if someone says hi to me, I do smile and start chatting away lol
I feel ya. I am constantly being asked if I'm in a bad mood and it's really fucking annoying, most of the time it's usually because I'm nervous or daydreaming
My ex had RBF. I usually am very in tune with facial expressions and body language. RBF completely throws that off. I don't think I could ever date another person with RBF.
Ya I know of some people like that in both genders. I know one real personally. Every time I see him it pisses me of to no end.. That's why I don't shave that much.
Well you can't expect guys to approach you. Ya maybe there's a loving girl inside but the guy doesn't know that. All we see is a girl who seems to be angry. So a guy isn't gonna take the risk. Better start approaching guys yourself.
I can relate, I don't like to smile and my face just looks like I am upset or mad. It's just weird but i don't want to go around smiling like an idiot, it would make people look at me funny. Like why is that dude smiling so much.
I'm a dude and I have resting bitch face partly because of me not being able to keep a smile unless it's sincere but mostly it's just because my face at rest makes me look like I'm going to murder something
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i have the opposite problem. i have a permanent smile, so there is no way to tell if it's real or fake so most people will assume im fake if im not interested in them
I don't mind any of those things but I hate being told to smile or being asked "what's wrong?" I thought my resting bitch face would keep people away not incite dumb remarks
i think in guys it's called RAF, short for resting asshole face and i suffer from it. even though i'm a guy one of my professors once asked me "Do you ever smile?" in a really condescending tone. he was just a dick. if i remember correctly i've been told that a few more times.
You know that face you get after crying, that's what some of my co-workers said before but i'm pretty used to looking at it also like the face you get when you just woke up and they took me easy but they got used to it.
My co workers should be used to it already but man they still ask...
They will get bored of it if you don't react at all. You can joke around if you want to
I wish they get bored. Maybe they just like to be around me lol
Fun fact : I'm not a girl, but I also have a resting bitch face, so I can relate to the struggles, especially since I'm shy too. On the bright side, seeing a girl with a RBF smile is worth all the gold in the world, it's so genuine and expressive.
Despite me knowing RBF is a thing, I tend to be intimidated nonetheless. To be fair, I'm intimidated by other girls in as well.
I have a terrible habit of eye-rolling. I don't even do it on purpose, it just appears because of the way my eyes move I guess, I don't know. I don't even roll my eyes intentionally that often. With teachers and stuff, it's a nightmare. LOL
No I'm not going to approach you if you look intimidating, mean, moody, and bitch. Oh you're shy? Guess what, guys can be shy too but nobody cares but nobody cares, they have to go outside their comfort zone anyway. If you want more than just the guys who don't care what kind of mood you appear in to approach you, then you need to appear approachable
If I want a guy to approach me, I will send signals to him that I like him. But what if he sees me doing my thing and I didn't notice him but he thinks I'm interesting, of course I'd be off guard and my natural RBF is what he's going to see. But you can't judge someone because of their face! lol Maybe they're just busy? or focused on something or just read a scary email? Wow. So a person's face will just send you away because of their cold expression? Won't you at least get to know them first before judging them?
"But you can't judge someone because of their face! lol Maybe they're just busy? or focused on something or just read a scary email? Wow. So a person's face will just send you away because of their cold expression?"
A woman's face is literally the first thing a man notices about her. If all he sees is resting bitch face and he actually cares what kind of mood you appear to be in, then he will most likely assume you're not in an approachable state
Yes true. But! How will you know she's actually a nice person if you just stop at first sight?
It probably won't get that far which is what a lot of shy girls with resting bitch face say: they don't feel they're approached as much as their friends who actually look approachable
Again if we're talking about guys that actually care what kind of mood a girl appears to be in, they're not just gonna assume the girl that looks like she wants everyone to leave her the hell alone is actually just a nice shy girl with resting bitch face, they're gonna assume she's in a bad mood and wants to be left the hell alone
Sad, eh? I can't help it. That's just my face. I do smile, man. My eyes light up when I see someone I like or when I'm happy. lol oh well.
That's a good step 👍
I feel your frustration, Pinay_ako, but you have to also realise that in this scenario, you are the only constant. Humans read each other within a few nanoseconds, and that has a huge impact on how we perceive someone-- including their "approachability". You can also thank feminists telling men that, in order to approach a girl, she has to basically wave him over and suck his dick then and there lol. This is a post #metoo world where men can lose their jobs coz a girl they made out with 5 years ago suddenly decides she felt "uncomfortable". So if we see a girl who looks "cold" towards us, and isn't giving signs of being open to approach, then we'll just play it safe and stay away. That said, there's a difference between "neutral" and "scowling" expressions. I'm not saying to be all fake smiles and sunshine, but if your face is naturally tensed up, eyebrows furrowed, etc, then maybe try some relaxation exercises to relax the musculature around your eyes, brows, jaw, etc. If a woman looks tense, we likely won't approach. If she look neutral mood, but basically relaxed, then we'll relax too and therefore more likely to approach.
@SomeGuyCalledTom I feel you too. I do try to watch my expression sometimes because I don't want to to appear bitchy when I am really not. But if someone says hi to me, I do smile and start chatting away lol
I stopped caring about my rbf long ago. If I don’t feel like smiling, it is what it is. If someone feels uncomfortable—it’s literally not my problem.
I feel ya. I am constantly being asked if I'm in a bad mood and it's really fucking annoying, most of the time it's usually because I'm nervous or daydreaming
My ex had RBF. I usually am very in tune with facial expressions and body language. RBF completely throws that off. I don't think I could ever date another person with RBF.
All I'll tell anyone who's got an opinion about someone with an RBF is "Don't judge a book by its cover."
Ya I know of some people like that in both genders. I know one real personally. Every time I see him it pisses me of to no end.. That's why I don't shave that much.
Well you can't expect guys to approach you. Ya maybe there's a loving girl inside but the guy doesn't know that. All we see is a girl who seems to be angry. So a guy isn't gonna take the risk.
Better start approaching guys yourself.
I can relate, I don't like to smile and my face just looks like I am upset or mad. It's just weird but i don't want to go around smiling like an idiot, it would make people look at me funny. Like why is that dude smiling so much.
i've had one. i could make her laugh, but she was emotionless most of the time. it was annoying. she also had a whiny voice that didn't help.
I'm smilier too lol! My face usually looks sad or glum and sometimes it looks like I'm going to beat someone up when I'm just exhausted.
I can relate as well since I have RBF as well. It's rough trying to convince people your not pissed when your thinking or something else.
I'm a dude and I have resting bitch face partly because of me not being able to keep a smile unless it's sincere but mostly it's just because my face at rest makes me look like I'm going to murder something
You don't have bitch face though. Those guys probably really were just concerned about you.
I get this comment at least once a day lol. But it's all good if they truly care.
Very fun take, Pinay_ako. Don't worry about it. You sound just fine.