Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI'm a white woman and I am on this thread because I was wondering the same thing. I went to a very 'ghetto' middle school. There were fights all the time and this is where I experienced 'racism' for being white. I hung out with the Puerto Ricans for awhile and was welcomed.. But, most black women hated me. I couldn't figure out WHY. I was partnered up with a black girl in home EC class and the next thing I know... she slapped me in the face. I didn't say or do ANYTHING to provoke her. There was also another girl in my gym class who made a point to bully me and she threw a basketball in my face. That school was tough but I survived and grew up to forget all that. Entering high school... I was a very social and nice person in general. Walking down the halls it was crowded, so if I bumped into someone I would naturally say sorry. God forbid if it was a black woman they would glare at me or ignore me all together. I never understood this. Now, I'm not saying all black women did this. I had some black friends, but they were the ones who hung out with the 'white groups'. I always give everyone the same treatment but I do notice I get treated POORLY by the 'hood' black woman. I don't take it personal anymore as I am now 26 and I know I am a good person. But when I see you staring at me and I smile (because I catch your eye) and you mean mug me... it still baffles me!!!
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+1 ythis is very one sided. you are the common denominator in all these interactions, so if every black woman u encounter is rude to u, what are u doing to provoke it? we don't have secret black woman meetings where we conspire to be mean to innocent nonblack women for no reason. most black women don't give a fuck about you if you're not in their circle- true story. is it possible that you expect black women to be overly nice and accommodating to you like a mammy from gone with the wind, and when they are not, you get offended and think they hate you? why are you asking them to do favors for u at work, are u their supervisor? if not then why can't u do it? I think these girls are indifferent toward you or probably are reacting to one of ur personality defects that you're not mentioning. you come off whiny, entitled and annoying and this is over the internet, so I can only imagine what ur coworkers deal with in real life
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Asker+1 yUgh, shut up. I'm so sick of these black bitches saying this shit. Get a life. Get a job. and stop sleeping around and having babies and then wondering why you can't succeed in life.
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You're nothing but pure, ignorant white trash. The job you have is something anyone with a GED and a pulse could perform, so please stop acting like you're so superior than anyone because a lot of black bitches like me could buy and sell your broke ass. I bet you don't talk that type of shit at work because you're a scared bitch who lets those hood girls run over you.
+1 yDo not tolerate people because of their "Skin colour", tolerate them if they tolerated you. you do not have to respect anyone who does not respect you. If anyone treated you like that treat them like they do. Always know an eye for an eye, be good With the people who are good with you, be cruel with the people who cruel with you.
And many Blacks have a thing against whites. the least of it is overreaction and accusation to Racism with the simplest words. remember they are living in a white culture and civilization not in their original place. All the white Standards over the years and many of them being unable to keep up with them made many them frustrated, that is why we see the overreacting and judgmental behaviour between them much more than Asians.00 Reply
+1 ySome black people, from my experience, are very arrogant and quite full of themselves. But some are lovely and down-to-earth, just have to meet the right people. Ignore them.. It's their loss for being so rude, it'll come back to them one day. Sometimes when they stare, it's just resting bitch-face, it's just their face, they're probably not thinking anything bad about you.
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+1 yGirl, people will always stare at you. I've seen people of all races and genders stare at me. I get stared at by strangers all the time. I'm short so most have this "who's that little kid" type of look. I just don't care. Forget what they think about me.
Women in general will run you over. Just as many white girls have tried running me over as black girls. That's just how many women are in general. Not all, but a good number of women.
Judging by your comments it seems that you may have prejudice against them as well. We don't know what kind of looks and/or gestures you have gave them either. How are we to know that you have done absolutely nothing for them to give you rude looks? Many people don't say please or thank you. That's with both genders and all races as well.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the problem is that everybody has done these things to you but you for w/e reason (because you are a different race, how you grew up, etc.) you only notice it when it's black women.40 Reply
This is a very racist question and the comments about slavery which had nothing to do with the topic just shows how ignorant all of you really are.
Your very first sentence was "I always go out of my way to be nice to them!" Why? Why can't black people ever just be treated like people? Like regular human beings? You group all black women together as rude and perpetuate stereotypes but then wonder why you seem to get treated so poorly by black people.
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Asker+1 yI go out of my way to be nice to everyone because I work in customer service. I have to as part of my job, and I also do it to make people happy.
Asker+1 yAnd to be fair, I didn't start any comment about slavery. That was someone else.
Asker+1 yBecause that was my opinion. I think it is a shame that slavery happened, I WISH it hadn't. But I had nothing to do with it and I can't turn back the hands of time. So why don't you tell me what you want me to do about it?
Asker+1 yI guess I didn't mean get over it as in forget about the whole thing happening, I just meant that sometimes people need to stop holding grudges BECAUSE something happened.
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Like I said, most of us aren't even holding a grudge over slavery. Most of us do not like how we are being treated today. I'm not talking about rude or stereotypical ones or the ones who feel like they are entitled, that comes with in every race. I'm talking about the ones, where no matter what they do , they are going to be treated like second class citizens. No matter what they do, they are going to never be looked as individuals, not a group. Like this for example.
Asker+1 yYeah, but a lot of black women think of white women that way too. They group them into a category and just treat them based off of those assumptions of the group. Both parties are guilty here, I'm just trying to get an opinion on how to act around black women without getting an attitude from them.
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And I never said black women aren't guilty too. So if you can see that its not so fun to be automatically stereotyped , why are you doing. We , as people , do have control in not believing in them. But over all, this is about you vs. Black women. Like someone else mentioned, how can you expect us, black women, to not have "attitudes" about this? Are we suppose to agree with you on? What do you expect , when talking about race? You made this a race issue.
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Hmph. um just to help you out. when people usually say. the white man or what not that mean the migority. it take a smarter person sometime to know this automatically. Just think about it even if he did mean all black women. um how is that possible? his brain might have Ben scared from the bad ones. I know not fair for you it's not right.
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+1 yBecause black people are stuck in the midset that everyones racist. If you do anything they don't agree with you're racist. Everyone except for black people have moved on from slavery. The only people who won't just let it die are black people. Yeah there's still racist people but they make up a tiny TINY part of the population. The rest of the world has moved on it's time they did to.
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Asker+1 yWell said.
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+1 yOww wee, check out the racist circle jerk going on here.
If you believe someone doesn't like you, you'll behave as if they don't like you, and guess what? Their reaction will be that they don't like you.
That's not limited to race, mind you. It's a recognized phenomena in psychology.60 ReplyHoney I hate to tell you but YOU are rude and you have an attitude trust me. When you have a nasty attitude it bounces back to you. Every rude person I know says they are so nice, sweet and go out of their way to please people. Then you ask them about these multiple situations and it's not the same story. I understand one incident but you are talking about every black woman at work. There is seriously something wrong with you if everyone black person has an attitude with you. Think about it.
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+1 yThere's a stigma that white people are weak... that's why you get bullied. I'm black & grew up in a mostly black community & being a punk is probably the worst thing you could be over here, sadly. Even being a nice, pleasant person will get you stares.
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Asker+1 yLol really? So basically you see being nice as a sign of weakness?
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I don't. Don't kill the messenger. I say this because I've experienced it, being a nice person in general. I had to create a tough, hardcore persona in order to fit in unfortunately.
Asker+1 yYeah, I can understand that. I guess I'll try not being so nice and maybe just mirroring their attitude.
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Really? A stigma that white people are weak? I've never heard that. Maybe Asians, but never whites. Who cares what the black community thinks. I'm me regardless of that.
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Though I didn't grow up in a black community so idk.
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No. Never change yourself. It's good to be nice. Just don't focus on what other people think so much. My point was to give you a heads up.
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@Red_Dragon: Never? I think it's because of the white "valley girl" stereotype versus the black "hood chick" stereotype. Think about it. When a black guy likes to date white girls, a lot of black girls will say "Oh, he just wants someone extremely submissive that can't stand up for herself"
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Well I mean I know where the black woman stereotype came from. It's old old old. I forget the actual term, but it goes back into slavery. Maybe not the "hood chick" thing, but definitely the aggressive black woman sassy type thing. To be fair black women I've heard typically have more testosterone than women of other races. Maybe this is where that perceived aggression comes from idk.
I've always thought valley girls only wanted white guys. I've heard of the "trailer trash" type thing, but idk. I have noticed that white girls typically seem to be more open to strangers, but that's generalizing and that doesn't make them submissive or weak. If they don't like you or w/e they are not going to "submit" to you. Then I think the other thing is probably that some might really have some type of fetish for black guys so to speak so maybe those are more "submissive", but that's a minority.
Maybe they're just shielding you because you're not part of their inner circle. Some people do this. Hang loose, I doubt their behavior is any reflection on you, or that it is meant to be personal so don't take it that way. All you can do is be who you are. If anything, kill with them kindness. Don't be fake or kiss up to them. If you're polite to everyone then just keep that up.
10 ReplyMaybe because you're trying so hard? Instead of treating them like you would anybody else? You're making race an issue by changing your behavior- just relax. I'm the same with everyone. And hence, my circle of friends looks like a poster for the UN.
30 ReplyCongrats you officially know of one black girl that doesn't hate you =)
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Asker+1 yYay! Thank you : )
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Make that two. lol
+1 yLeave them alone. Problem solved. LOL @ White men comparing how black women are treated to how THEY are treated wtf. Why are black women treated the way they are treated and WHO is behind it? Fuck off.
10 ReplyDid you ever think that maybe this has nothing to do with them being black, but just more with them being rude individuals?
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Asker+1 yYeah, of course I have thought that before. It makes sense, right? But, I deal with all sorts of people (black, white, hispanic, asian, etc...) all day long and out of all of those, black people have always always always given me the most grief. Black women in particular.
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Lol I never said that I was a slave nor am I dwelling on it. I didn't even bring it up. Like I mentioned, I see mostly white people bring it up , before I see black do. Go tell descendants of those who were in the Holocaust , the Irish , and native Americans and those whose families were victims of 9/11, the Malaysian planes , etc to forget as well.
Asker+1 yYeah, I have people do that to me too. Its weird and annoying but I don't understand how it is relevant here?
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"Lol I never said that I was a slave nor am I dwelling on it. I didn't even bring it up. Like I mentioned, I see mostly white people bring it up , before I see black do. Go tell descendants of those who were in the Holocaust , the Irish , and native Americans and those whose families were victims of 9/11, the Malaysian planes , etc to forget as well."
This is so true. And slavery and oppression wasn't that long ago on the timeline for all you miss informed people since we're on that subject now. The Civil Rights Act was signed after MLK was assassinated in the late 60s. That was just 46 years ago and do you think it was all fine and dandy after that? Hell no. Some peoples' grandparents were part of historical civil rights movements, the black panthers, etc. - +1 y
You've had bad experiences with black people. I've had bad experiences white people. Despite my experiences, I can still say that the entire white race isn't like that, just those certain white people. Heck, some who are rude to me or don't treat me as their equal, it might even racially motivated. You Act like every black person has it out for you. You can EXPECT anyone to be nice, just because you're nice to them back. Race has nothing to do with it. You just have to not take things so personally, especiallydealing wit strangers and customers.
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I don't think black purple have anything to learn from slavery except what they can accomplish together and a look at hir tring they are as a race. It is white people I believe that should use it as education to their ego. But I do not believe it should be used as an excuse for things throughout your life as if you lived it directly.
+1 yMaybe they hate you because you generalize them so much? Just a guess...
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Asker+1 yI never started out with that mentality. It is something I have noticed throughout my life.
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Doesn't change the fact that you're generalizing black women.
Asker+1 yA generalization comes from real life experience. And I don't let my generalizations reflect on my behavior towards people, I practice kindness to them and expect the same-which most of the time, I don't get.
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In other words, you don't let them know about your prejudices against them.
Asker+1 yLook, I never had anything against anyone who was different than me. It was because of the way they treated me that I formed those opinions, so clearly they have something against me as well.
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So, because you've been mistreated by the ones you've interacted with, you've concluded that all of them or at least the majority of them in general are like that. In other words, you've developed prejudices against black women.
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A few bad apples spoil all apples :/.
Asker+1 ySure, I have developed prejudices against them... because of the way they have treated me.
Asker+1 yMaybe if they were nice to a woman who they can see is trying to be nice and HELP them then I wouldn't be thinking this. But they give me attitude all day long and expect me to be cool with it, nope not happening.
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So you're saying you're not capable of NOT judging all black women as one and the same? Do you even understand what a "prejudice" is? It means you judge people before even knowing them.
What about the black females on here? Don't you think your opinion might be quite offensive to them?
Asker+1 yBelieve me, they have opinions that offend me too.
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I've met some racist white people. I guess every white person is racist. There are many Muslims who kill people who don't believe what they believe. I guess every Muslims thinks this way :/.
Honestly, like I said in my opinion earlier. I think she's only noticed where the black women have done her wrong and not the girls of other races or the people of the other gender. - +1 y
I think you still don't quite understand what "generalizing" means. You're judging people you don't even know. Why don't you just judge the ones that have mistreated you? Ah, nevermind. If your prejudices are that strong, it will be impossible for me to explain to you what is so utterly irrational about them. Good luck.
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yDon't go out of your way to be nice to them? Treat everybody equal. It seems like you are afraid of being racist, and thats probably why you annoy them
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Asker+1 yI can understand that. Like I have said in previous responses, I have to go out of my way to be nice to people as I work in customer service and it is pretty much in my job description.
+1 yMaybe their some of the blacks holding a grudge over slavery which happened about 200 years ago, if this is the case they need to get over it.
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Asker+1 yYES. I have definitely thought that in some cases. Let it gooooooo.
Asker+1 yI think white people bring it up because its what black people are thinking. Not all of them, but you have to admit that a lot of them still hold that over our heads even though I never owned a slave and neither did anyone in my immediate family.
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I'm not holding any grudge and I don't have a racist bone in my body, but since you said something so stupid I'll educate you.
The 13th amendment was signed in 1865. That's was 150 years ago. The Civil Rights Act was signed after MLK was assassinated in the late 60s. That was only 46 years ago. And do you think it was all fine and dandy after that? Hell no. Oppression was still evident several years later. Some peoples' grandparents were part of historical civil rights movements, the black panthers, etc. The first school to be integrated was in the late 50s. I met a woman who went to that school in Arkansas.. Would you tell Jews to get over the Holocaust or people who lost family members in 911 to suck it up? - +1 y
Under 18, uneducated of course, uncultured and ignorant. Your parents have failed, that comment shows you need to get your little ass off the Internet and learn more about American History AND African Americans than just slavery or what your trailer park trash parents taught you with their limited education on African American studies. In college IF you get THERE I suggest you take a course on African American studies. A brain is a horrible thing to waste sweetie. Oh and Slavery lasted for 300 years and was 150 years ago. You should limited your time on gag.
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I am educated sorry I didn't mean to offend anyone but it is a little true
1.7K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Are u sure it's only black women that stare at u and lack basic manners/courtesy?
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yprobably tired of how much more special white women are seen in the media than them, can't blame them if anything they are demonized like the white man is.
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+1 yMaybe you give off a vibe lol
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White girls rub me the wrong way a lot. It's like they can never be "normal" lol either they talk to much or they talk too little Either they don't look at you when you talk or they stare right in your eyes. They cry too much. They need a man too much lol either they can't do anything right or they do too much and complain about doin it. Not too mention sometimes they racist and just want to judge black women lol it's very rare that you find a perfect, lovable, friendable white girl but I've had a few.
But they all did or said something that made me cut them off.
Asker+1 yI get that. I have never met a black woman who has treated me like an equal. They are either too bossy, pushy, or rude, or they play the race card. Like women I work with, I am in a higher position than them and yet they think that they can tell me what work to do. Get out of here. Pretty much every black woman I have met has given me some sort of attitude. I get what you're saying though, and it really just is a matter of racial differences I guess.
Asker+1 yThey also have a know it all attitude. Like my opinion is never right when I'm talking to them. They can say the exact same thing, just in a different way and they can be right. But heaven forbid the white person is right.
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Can I share a quote with you? It holds so much truth and I'd like to share it with you. It'll explain this whole thing.
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"Black women have been able to envy white women (their looks, their easy life, the attention they seem to get from their men); they could fear them (for the economic control they have had over black women’s lives) and even love them (as mammies and domestic workers can); but black women have found it impossible to respect white women. I mean they (black women) never had what black men have had for white men—a feeling of awe at their accomplishments. Black women have no abiding admiration of white women as competent, complete people. Whether vying with them for the few professional slots available to women in general, or moving their dirt from one place to another, they regarded them as willful children, pretty children, mean children, ugly children, but never as real adults capable of handling the real problems of the world. "
-the beautiful Toni Morrison
Asker+1 yThat is a good quote. I appreciate you sharing it with me, and everyone here. I think you have a smart opinion when it comes to this issue, and it is clearly something you have thought about before. The one thing in the quote I really don't agree with is the end, "but never as real adults capable of handling the real problems of the world." I just don't understand how that fits into the world today, where so many black women are on unemployment and have children from different men. You would think that they would learn to take control of their lives and solve their problems rather than relying on others to support them (the government).
Asker+1 yAnd I honestly do not want to come off as rude to you. I enjoy having an educated conversation with someone who holds an opposing view point to mine.
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"but never as real adults capable of handling the real problems of the world."
It fits into the world today because, white women crack a lot. White women get stressed very easily. Black women don't. Were used to trials and having to overcome every obstacle. Obstacles that are usually harder than yours. But that's nobody's fault. Black women are expected to be tough from an early age and we become that where as you guys are granted fragility and femininity all your lives. - +1 y
"black women are on unemployment and have children from different men. You would think that they would learn to take control of their lives and solve their problems rather than relying on others to support them (the government)."
There are some things you really have to be black to understand.
Unemployment rate- we don't have a leg up in society. We sometimes have to drop out of school. We sometimes get pregnant during school and black women are usually firmly against abortion. I'm not. But most are. Most black women will break down and get abortions when they have like 2 or 3 kids already and they're sinking. Besides that, she keeping it.
Having kids from different men is easy to explain. You can't make a man who doesn't want to be a father stay when you have a baby. And you can't always determine if the next man is truly a good man or not. Point black. Period. That's honestly a black man problem lol I love them but they like to bamboozle lol - +1 y
"You would think that they would learn to take control of their lives and solve their problems rather than relying on others to support them (the government)."
Were getting there. Look at the statistics from 10 or 20 years ago and look at them now. We've made tremendous progress and I'm proud of us lol
Asker+1 yI totally get it. I really like how you can share your opinion without getting defensive like some other people on here. And yeah, of course black women have made a lot of progress. But the point of my whole original question is, we all have problems that we face, yes white women too, so when a black woman gives me attitude I can't help but take it personally. Because we are all WOMEN... black or white and if you're not going to treat me kindly like you treat those of your own skin color (and yes, I see how they treat other black women at work- they are kind and will do anything for each other), then I'm sorry but I WILL be offended. And I have every right to be.
Asker+1 yAnd about the having lots of babies at a young age and having to drop out of school, they don't HAVE to get pregnant. Same as white women don't HAVE to get pregnant. That is a careless lifestyle choice on their end, when they could be focusing their energies on succeeding in school and going farther than their parents.
Asker+1 yAnd you said that black women are expected to be tough, so they have to get over all the obstacles in life. Everyone has to do that. I don't think white women ALWAYS have the luxury of being stressed out easily and breaking under pressure. In many cases, we are raising children while holding a job while black women say "oh I have kids, I can't work and will rely on the government." Who is the stronger woman in that case?
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As a woman, yes, you are the same as us but unfortunately historically we've been divided by race so our allegiance is with black women before white women. I tell everyone I'm pro-women but I'm pro-black women first. I'd do anything for anyone who is in this sister hood. When it comes to white women, I'm the same way... after she proves herself to be not just friendly but genuine. I tend to befriend white women who date black men as long as they don't think they can say whatever they want to say. The ones with children are easiest to befriend because they have a black child and don't say what they wouldn't want a person to say to their child.
People don't have to get pregnant. You're right. But it happens. And most of the time we choose to take care of our responsibilities. Not get abortions. And again with the school thing lol were getting there. Look at the statistics. It's improved drastically. And I'm proud of us. Give us time lol - +1 y
"And you said that black women are expected to be tough, so they have to get over all the obstacles in life. Everyone has to do that. I don't think white women ALWAYS have the luxury of being stressed out easily and breaking under pressure."
We have to be stronger. No jobs are looking to hire us. No media is geared towards us. Beauty standards exclude us continually. We sometimes can't even afford the luxury of an education. When black people talk about college we talk about scholarships. When you guys talk about college you talk about getting in - +1 y
"In many cases, we are raising children while holding a job while black women say "oh I have kids, I can't work and will rely on the government." Who is the stronger woman in that case?"
To say that black women feel like that is ridiculous. That statement is the reason we don't respect or like white women. You come in two extremes. Either you're Emotionally unstable children or You're wolves in sheeps clothing. You pretend to want to understand, you pretend to want to talk without offending and then you make a statement such as that one. Were done here. Bye bye
Asker+1 yI mean I expected that response eventually. You can criticize us and its okay, but when we say something you don't like even just a little bit, forget it--we're the bad ones. That is just what I have noticed (living in the city) the majority of my clients are black women who get section 8 housing and rely on the government for their money and food. That is the reason I don't respect or like black women. Goodbye.
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You expected that response because that's what you wanted LOL!!! Antagonize until you can justify your bigotry.
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The difference between us and you is that were upfront with our lack of respect. You hide yours behind a smile. Lol
You're being too nice.
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Asker+1 yHow so?
+1 yMaybe try standing up for yourself or something?
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+1 ybecause you're not a sista
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yIt's just in their nature
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