Why do women seem to value male friendship, more than men value female friendship?

[wtf30]

Asked a different question on here and it got me thinking that it's a somewhat separate issue. The original problem was my ex complaining how these guys she wanted to be only friends with didn't want to be friends with her when sex/relationship was off the table.

As a straight man, I have never found myself complaining or worrying about the fact that a girl didn't want to be just friends with me. I've had girls that liked me that I didn't like but it didn't bother me when they didn't want to be just my friend. I didn't care at all. And I have never heard another man say anything even close to that, lol.

I suppose maybe if my best friend turned out to be gay, and in love with me. Then never wanted to hang out with me after I turned him down, I suppose that would be a little hard to deal with, but it's not really the same thing. And I would understand why he would feel that way.

But it's a complaint I hear from women, pretty frequently. Men only want sex, not friendship.

Does it seem that women maybe women value male friendships more than men value female friendships. Why is that? Why are women so offended when men don't want to be their friends, and men don't seem to care even if they have female friends? Do men just make better friends? Or are we just bigger assholes? haha.

No agenda here, just curious about people's thoughts on why this is.

[mjz00]

hi, quite apt for me literally had this conversation earlier and relevant to a lifetime of experience and upto just recently. As a female it is often portrayed men just can't be just friends with a female there will always be an element of attraction upto hoping there maybe a serious chance of intimacy to be polite. You never hear such a distinct remark about females however i would admit that males i have been friends with over the years there is an attraction of sorts, even if it has always remained platonic there still has to be an element of connection. I cannot speak for any other female other than myself but having friendships with males on a close connection there most often is a kind of flirtation that goes on. I appreciate that from a biological sense of males and females this is more the norm and i accept that. I recently have told a couple of newly encountered male friends that im in an only friends zone and i totally accept if they want or would like more its cool to end our connection at this point and im not offended id rather be clear and not think im leading them on, if that makes sense? xx as for females desire for a male friendship without the sexual agenda that is another matter and understandably part of a females mind to have a close connection with a man without the sexual play that is a ma hoo sive part of a one on one relationship... like her getting all that emotional man in her life without the sexual expectations that go with it... perhaps... just an opinion... xx

[wtf30]

Yeah, I don't know I keep typing different things because I want to answer you, but I keep contradicting myself of making different points. I guess it's just a thing, biological mostly because it is everywhere.

[fancyme80]

Personally if I take the time to be friends with a guy I value the friendship. Girls tend to be more Emotional and rational. Not in a negative way. We think things through more. Can you answer why guys don't value a friendship as much as girls do?

[wtf30]

I think we don't value female friendship generally cause women aren't usually good friends to men. They generally don't want to participate in male activities, and only hang out with the guys when we are doing things they want. but overal I don't know. We just don't care. Men make better friends to us.

[fancyme80]

Lol. Men are better friends at times. That's why woman want to be friends with them. What about long distance friends? Would that make a difference?

[wtf30]

If I'm being honest, no. I really only stay in contact with women that I am attracted to in some way. That's may be mean, but that's just how men are. Straight men anyway. Most of my female friends are girls that date my friends, coworkers, or women I know from school, but don't hang out with really.

[fancyme80]

Thank you for your honest.

[pingiluv]

Cos women are bitches lol all my so-called women friends always back stab me, check one of my questions. Lol

I have more guy friends than girls because of that, the only things is guy friends hit on you a lot instead of girls 😂😂

[wtf30]

Lol. That is usually the answer I hear. But then women should understand why if we aren't sleeping with you we don't want to be friends, lol. That's a generalization but true in a way.

Those guys aren't really your friends though, they are just waiting for you to realize you love them, I used to be that guy in highschool when I didn't have any confidence in myself. Most men that women are attracted to do not behave like this, so men start to act accordingly, and then you guys hate us for it. haha. Oh well. 1st world problems.

I guess I just women just had better friendships with each other, so they didn't feel like they needed it from men. Nothing wrong with it though, I guess we just don't care. lol

[pingiluv]

No trust me it's the same when you get older I'm 33 and I have guy friends who want to sleep together the only difference is if we do we don't act all awkward like high school kids. Sex is sex, friends are friends lol

[wtf30]

Lol, I'm 30... not that much younger than you. Trust me I understand.

I usually make an effort not to do that, just because I feel like it is a bit pathetic. To hang around in the hopes that this girl will realize she really loves you. LOL. That's the exact attitude that will ensure that never happens with anyone. And if you know you have those feelings then it gets in the way of a real friendship. The type where you talk about the people you are fucking with each other.

Although there is a co-worker of mine that I am basically in love with, but would really like to avoid making it awkward at work. Usually I would shoot my shot, and deal with the consequences but working together makes it difficult. So I try to get closer to her in the hopes I can tell if she actually likes me.

[pingiluv]

Yeah I don't blame you work is different lol I wouldn't either

[wtf30]

TMI... sorry lol.

[pingiluv]

lol it's okay :)

[Anonymous]

I never had this problem, I stayed single most of my life and never had a true female friend until I was freaking eighteen years old, and even then, she stabbed me in the back...
Strangely enough, the first one actually introduced me to the second one, who is now my fiancee.

[Opinion Owner]

I WANTED to be friendzoned by a girl, and I was denied it for years.

[Anonymous]

Because guys generally make much better friends than girls.

[anmari2001]

if you are talking about the frienzone, then yeah women value friendship

[wtf30]

no, not the friend zone. I was asking why do women care that men don't just want to be friends with them? And men don't seem to care if women don't want to be only friends with them.

[anmari2001]

it depends on person tho
but I think women care about too many things in some cases

[wtf30]

Meaning they want more than friendship and he doesn't. It wouldn't bother me if she didn't want to be friends with me.