Are women Illogical and unreasonable?

[Anonymous]

I dont mean to insult anyone iam just asking a simple question, from interacting with women and observing them i (and almost every guy out there) actually believe that every woman is illogical and unreasonable in one way or another, from decision making to their expectations of men or what they believe men should do to get them...

the general feeling is that women run on emotions and logic almost plays no role in their life, they do what they feel they want to do, and unimportant things dictate how they they are going to treat someone, a guy could be perfect but because he messaged them while studying for an exam they stop replying and stop considering him a potential boyfriend (Just an example) .

All of them are

A lot are

Some

A small minority

No

[Anonymous]

Is that so?
From your explanation I understand that you believe every single woman is emotional and illogical which points to the fact that you believe you (and almost every other man) actually believe that men are reasonable and logical beings.
Now tell me, how do you define reasonable? there are reasons and motivations behind our every move. What you are missing here is that you (and almost every other guy as you have put it here) fails to see the reason.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not that supid to generalize my observations based on a few samples I have come across. I strongly think, given your very young age range and your lack of exposure to women from outside of your normal social circle, that your observations and therefore your conclusions are very biased.
You will come across all type of people and every single person acts, thinks and behaves differently. Not all men act and think alike specially if they come from different backgrounds.
So if I were you, I'd start looking around and trying to understand individuals instead of just catgorizing people based on limited observations.

Good luck

[Asker]

I think i have met enough women plus iam like a couple years younger than you so i dont think you actually get to educate me on what i think is wrong and what i think is right.

look around you, are men all logical? no not all of them but a lot are, they think with logic they do whats practical, do you think engineering is fun? no its not but men dominate it because men have one thing in mind, making money to support a family in the future women take things such as gender or social studies, phsycology or philosophy which are practically useless but they feel good learning about these things.

when it comes to dating men are straightforward and dont play games, women on the other hand will make an issue out of everything, ask any man even your own dad what he thinks of women and he will sum it up with one word " crazy" of course he doesn't mean crazy he just means they ditch logic to follow emotions, its very noticeable

[Asker]

your answer in itself proved my point you ignored women and instead focused on men, you didn't admit that women actually act a certain way because you know its true, however you emotions are stronger than your logic.

[Opinion Owner]

You are missing the point. You are just generalizing. A lot of people are emotional, some aren't. Some are in between.
I'm an engineer. I have absolutely no problems following logic. My circle of girl friends are mostly engineers as well. None of us have any problems following logic. Nevertheless I understand that not every single woman is like this. One has to find people who are on the same wavelength. Just because most people out there don't share the same values and ideas as one does, it doesn't mean such people don't exist.
I suggest you widen your social circle so you get to see other types.

[Asker]

iam not saying all women are like this which is why i included all these options but from the looks of it at least half are which is a pretty decent number if you think about it, you're an engineer but how many women are? go to any college and you will see most useless subjects are studied by women, i think hundreds of women is a wide enough circle plus i do interact with plenty of men who have the same issue, they believe women are unreasoable.

of course most of the time it doesn't affect us but when its time to date it does , i gave my friend tips on how to deal with his girlfriend, he was going insane she would literally get mad out of the blue for no reason, he's like "iam just eating lunch and she's yelling at me on the phone " and it happens with a lot of men , there is no way around it even women who are close to me are illogical sometimes as well, its not one out of a thousand its more like one out of 3

[samhradh_leannan]

Occasionally. But then, some men are too. In general, HUMANS can be illogical and unreasonable at times. Women can act a little crazy when they're dealing with their hormone roller coasters. Men can act a little crazy when their egos and testosterone get the better of them. It's a small minority of both genders that are reasonable and logical 100% of the time. In fact, those people may not exist at all. Most of the time, people seem like they are being illogical or unreasonable or confusing because we're misunderstanding them or there is a miscommunication happening. Other times, their worldview is different from ours. Of course there are times when people are objectively defying logic, but both genders have been known to do that.

[Asker]

I do agree with you that both can act like that and for different reasons i have met illogical men and they do exist indeed, but the thing is when i meet a guy who is acting in an illogical/unreasoable manner he usually has a clear reason, he will tell you his reason for acting like that, but with women they just act like that and make issues out of nothing without actually giving a reason iam sure they have a reason but they act like that out of the blue and for no reason whatsoever and never admit to doing anything wrong or different, which is why we as men find it weird and kinda crazy (not literally crazy) cause as i mentioned men give clear reasons, for example i had two co workers, one dude was very unreasoable and an ass but the source of his aggressiveness towards everyone was clear : he liked a certain girl who kept acting kinda annoying, plus he hated when other guys talked to her.

[Asker]

the same girl did some seriously annoying and sometimes hurtful things, but acted like a sweet person, she would claim to be good but do some seriously fucked up things, and never actually give a reason or admit to acting like that... after months of being asked she finally broke down and admitted that dating that dude kinda put a strain on her and she wasn't hereself, she led men on and hurt others without realizing

[samhradh_leannan]

Lol maybe the guy's illlgical behavior seems clearer to you because you're also a guy. I don't know what else to say. Sounds like you are basing all of this on just a couple of anecdotes. In my experience both men and women are typically pretty reasonable, and both men and women can be wacky st times with no explanation.

[Asker]

this is just one example since iam limited to a 1000 words, both of them were wrong but the guy was pretty clear and upfront about his intention the girl acted like she had no idea what was wrong, and it happens a lot more than you think, at college girls just lose their shit out of no where, some girl got super mad and insulted me because i said i like fair skin and she is tan, others would bash guys who treat girls in a bad way but end up gluing themselves to such guys and daydreaming about them, I don't know if its just a young girls thing but its how i view it.

as for guys yes some act the same i have a couple friends like that and i give them advises all the time because they simply are not smart or deep enough to act in a logical manner.

[Asker]

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[samhradh_leannan]

Interesting that you've had those experiences. Personally I have not.

[Asker]

yeah thats what iam saying i have been exposed to these kind of girls quite a often , they say things but do the opposite, and act in a way that doesn't fit the situation they are in, in short they sound... detached from the world around them not all are like that and iam looking for girls whom i click with and are like me, logical, but the more girls i meet the more i realize its not as easy as it sounds.

I once texted a girl i knew liked me (she kept staring ant acting nervous around me) and after a month of texting and me asking for her number i felt she was not being as responsive as she should so i stopped talking to her and found out a couple weeks later that she was engaged, few other chicks actually had bfs but showed a lot of interest in me and were open to my approaches (to a certain point, then they start acting weird and distant) so you see my argument is coming from somewhere not just a silly question.

[samhradh_leannan]

Maybe you're just licking the wrong girls. I don't know what to say. I've never had these experiences, and it's not like I've never met any girls.

[samhradh_leannan]

Picking*

And potentially also licking

[Asker]

lol haven't licked any girls so far , I don't know i just go for girls i find attractive who show interest in me and a lot do iam trying to choose more wisely these days

[samhradh_leannan]

To me it sounds like the guy was just as much in the wrong, you just happened to be aware of what was inspiring his unreasonable and asslike behavior. Which, for the record, doesn't make his behavior okay. It's not like it's okay to be awful to people as long as you explain why you're in a bad mood.

[JellybeanQueen]

Too generalized. That's like saying all men are egotistical pevert, which is not true. Women do have more complex emotions, and as long as one can separate from them in logical matters, it shouldn't be an issue. In fact, empathy and sensitivity is a very good trait that should not be seen as unreasonable simply because you do not understand it.

[JellybeanQueen]

I saw one of your other comments too. The one of college majors? Too generalized again. you can't say all women take up only "useless" majors. I personally am working toward my masters in Biology with an emphasis in zoology. You are too short sighted, and are failing to see the unique qualities in every individual...

[Asker]

my goal was not to discover unique qualities, again you just prove my point, the question is quite simple really, i know exactly what people are capable of and i avoided discussing that on purpose my goal was to discuss this part of women i didn't mention anything else, as for college... thas the sad truth one woman is not all women but a lot of women is a lot closer to all women

[JellybeanQueen]

I cannot agree with that. As you know plenty of women who are illogical, I also know plenty of men who are. My current workplace is full of them, and I can get quite irritated. Also, how am I proving your point at all? Am I being unreasonable, illogical, etc? Your original post included this statement: "I believe every woman is unreasonable or illogical in some way". Honestly, so is every man. Why? Because no one in existence has a perfect understanding of everything.

[Asker]

no no one is you're right and men are very sexual and kinda perverted more than women no shame in admitting that, but maybe the reason you get irritated is because at work all the men look at the practical side of the equation while you take the other side so you have opposing views but it doesn't mean they are wrong or you are, its just different priorities

[JellybeanQueen]

They are actually quite conservative like me, they just say and do stupid stuff.

[Asker]

sometimes they are just stupid lol

[Anonymous]

Nah. I think men are the retarded ones honestly. I feel like I can talk about any subject I know in depth and women will understand what I'm saying. But if I talk to men they don't have a clue, but they will pretend to know though. I'd say like half of men out there have no ability to think in a complex manner. Yes they can do math and shit, but ask them to describe a complex reality of society and their brains stop working. Some women are like that too but I find most are very capable of complex thought. It's funny because IQ standards by population men have more geniuses. But also more idiots, and women are consistently of a decent intelligence. I think the tests are bogus, designed by men. If they were different it could show men being retarded. But it is a mans world and physical strength has helped us stay on top.

[Jaquav]

I find most humans are, boys and girls.

[Darkarrowangel]

Not all of them, but some

[Kitten967]

Some are and some aren't.

[emerald77]

Some are.