
Do Modern women deserve chivalry from men?


Well, we've eliminated the bar for women to be "ladies" so, no. But chivalry isn't really about who "deserves" what. It's important that parents are still teaching their kids courtesy and respect. In fact, it's important that we're all teaching kids courtesy and respect. This is how I know we're still doing okay: in my life I've had 3 people publicly berate me for holding a door for them, and that sucks. But I've had several young ladies hold a door for me. I'm old, but still quite able-bodied, so these were efforts of pure courtesy. That's a win as far as I'm concerned.
Only the woman who births our children deserves it.
Thanks for the MHO.
It depends on what you mean by "chivalry" and what you mean by "deserve". In this day and age it should just be about basic politeness and consideration, and people of both genders deserve that.
When you said the word ''deserve'' that says it all. No one deserves anything from anyone.
Opening doors for others should already be basic manners.
Isn't it better to just try and treat everyone decently regardless of which gender they are?
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Chivalry is part of southern etiquette.
Yes ma'am
No ma'am
As a child if we don't use it, often times we pick up our teeth off the floor.
I even call my nieces and nephew's sir or ma'am.
Holding doors goes hand in hand. I've been called weird as i would open my car door for my passenger.
I think there are inflextions than can be understood if the person giving the act is being legitimate or if they are doing it just to weasel what they want.
To answer your question. Deserving gives the thought of entitlement. Making it sound like I'm going against my will to do it.
There are some people who I feel I wasted it on but I'll do it for anyone. And if they want to be offended by it thats not my problem. I have other doors to hold for other greatful people.
As @Volvagia said
No one is entitled to chivalry
Chivalry is the outcome of mutual respect and decency, since the third wave of feminism is so against men overall, it has led to most men being shat upon for being nice, thus almost killing chivalry.
Its a sad state of affairs but that's what extremism does.
Hell no. Modern women are the reason chivalry is dead. You don't get to call every man a cishet, white oppressor and then turn around the next day and expect him to pay for dates and open doors for you. Fuck that. Pay for your own damn food. You work. Spend your own money.
I think that people deserve a basic level of respect and courtesy until they prove otherwise. I don't worry about chivalry, I would hold the door open for anyone if I am exiting and they are entering (or vice versa). I don't see it as trying to win favour, it's just the decent thing to do.
Grand gestures designed to win favour are often far too contrived to demonstrate anything other than a paint by numbers approach and a cynical effort to appear more decent than you are.
My mom puts it like this, chivalry is not just for men to learn to be kind to women but to be compassionate and helpful to others. It teaches respect and simple etiquette. Something everyone should learn to be.
If my mom sees someone behind her regardless of race, age or gender it is courteous to hold the door open for them.
Deserve? No. Nobody deserves anything.
If I see somebody behind me I hold the door regardless of their gender. I don't act chivalrous because a woman deserves it, I do it because thays the standard I hold myself to.
Everyone should treat everyone else with respect. Be kind, open doors, help out and so on. It had nothing to do with gender and skills be done because it's the right way to treat other people, not because of a gender or "deserving it".
Hell no, these hoes can't be loyal for shit
fuck these thotties
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yes. everyone deserves to experience chivalry. chivalry isn't specific to women and shouldn't be given or received only to and by women.
be courteous, be mannerly, be helpful to everyone
Finally a man who understands what chivalry truly is! Thank you
it's an all to common misunderstanding based on strange and ultimately incorrect 19th century and on concepts of gender roles
By definition it is specific to women.
www.collinsdictionary.com/.../chivalry
@ThreeSheetsToTheWind never heard of this dictionary. any you overlook the other definitions given which in nearly all other definitions are the first and also the original definitions
Collins is one of the main publishers of dictionaries in the UK. The OP appeared to be referring to the first definition given which is why I was going by that one.
I lol'd at the title of the question. 99% of modern women don't deserve chivalry. They sleep around, they cheat, they have entitled attitudes, etc..
Just read the womens responses on this question.
Girls: Have you ever cheated on your boyfriend? What made you do it? ↗
2/3rd of women say "YES, WE DESERVE PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT OVER MEN SOLELY FOR BEING WOMEN!" Yet they constantly harp on and on about "Male Entitlement". The hypocrisy is real...
Absolutely not. I can no more change people's behavior than I can throw them and with the way everybody is behaving these days, I hope more for for total nuclear annihilation than a girlfriend.
With the kind of behavior I've seen in the last 20 years from women in general, I only act out of courtesy, the same things I would do for a guy is what I'll do for a woman and nothing more.
Not all of them but some women still deserve chivalry from men. I want to keep some things from the old time like beeing a gentleman. I will always hold the door open for my girl.
Well, I will start by stating that as a man, I will open a door or such for anyone, even someone I hate. While I don't believe in entitlement, I do believe in common courtesy and decency, and that involves what one would call chivalry.
Everybody deserves it. Holding doors and genrally being nice isn't all that hard so i dont think its about who "deserves" it as everyone deserves being respected enough to be adressed with manners
"Deserve" no, chivalry is given as a gift. Common courtesy is expected, everyone deserves basic courtesy. Chivalry is a set of behaviors that gentlemen do as a learned behavior.
Everyone deserves chivalry. Everyone should open the door to anyone or propose the last piece of cake. It's called being polite and everyone do it to everyone no matter the gender in my country.
Too many women think they deserve chivalry because they have a vagina. If you want me to be a gentleman, be a lady then, not some basic bitch.
Chivalry is just another way to say respectful.. and both sexes should be more respectful to each other. Regardless if its as a friend, or a hookup.
It's basic human decency
Nahh many guys are plenty chivalrous already, sending pics of their unsheathed swords to women.
Wow i was not expecting that many men to be so inconsiderate. 😕😮
@2opaz haha lol
boi you look like reese from malcom in the middle gtfo 👌😂
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Um, chivalry is NOT me getting on my knees when you order it.
(but, I think you're hot, so would probably do whatever you told me to do)
Yes however it should be both ways really. Gender equality
They don't deserve it, but it does make men look good when we are chivalrous.
Women just like men are entitled to absolutely nothing
I think modern human beings deserve chivalry from all modern human human beings, regardless of gender. Courteous behaviour for all!
No one deserves anything from anyone. But personally if a man was chivalrous to me then I will pursue him rather than the man who didn't.
Chivalry is an outdated concept. Courtesy should not be gender specific. Holding doors open etc is just the decent thing to do irrespective of gender.
now, my opinion is split. open doors, move chairs etc. yes. split the bill, no... the wage gap is mostly gone (depends on state and country). you can pay for your own stuff
I, at first sight, thought that picture said "I LOVE BEATING WOMEN"
I think so!
That's not really the right question. A chivalrous man will respect a woman whether she deserves it or not.
Hard to believe what you chose as the mho for guys. Message me privately? I dare you. :)
No. You should not act in good faith towards those who do not understand, appreciate, will not reciprocate and who see it as a weakness to be exploited. That includes modern women.
No they deserve equal men. Who will treat them the exact same way he treats other men.
nothing wrong with being polite
Only if they are chivalrous back.
Respect yes but that's about it
nobody is entitled to chivalry or common courtesy
@Chaz269 well my understanding of the definition of common courtesy is polite, respectful behaviour but that doesn't mean people are inherently entitled to that kind of behavior. I don't inherently deserve to be treated politely or respectfully by anyone. If that's the approach you take cool, no shame in that but for many people, they follow a "respect is earned, not given" approach which supports what I said in the first place.
Modern women have bigger things to worry about
what things?
@Synttacks no dicks, thank god
Than basic kindness and respect?
@Synttacks a blade of grass
@jokercard you must think I'm pretty big then 😝
@Synttacks fuck off
Seriously though can @jokercard answer @just_wondering_01 's question?
Yes, all women do deserve it
I am courteous to people in general.
What’s your definition of chivalry?
Bo they wanted independence so now they have it
Depends
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