My assessment of women:
-They don’t have the greatest communication skills. Tell a man what they want, but what they want isn’t what they mean.
-Your spot on when you say that women want men to initiate everything. But I do not blame women for that. It’s society that put it in a woman’s mind that she has to be chased, instead of going after what she wants.
-Some girl think men all men are worthless, and treat us like such. Thus starts the cycle of the gender wars. “She’s a slut, he’s deadbeat, loser..”
-Equality isn’t the strong suit. Women want to say that they want equality... women’s rights... but yet I still here BS as, “that’s a man’s job..” and so on. You can’t have your cake and eat it too, if you truly want equality, your going to have to get your hands dirty like a man. If not, then they will treat you like they did back in the “good old days” when they treated women like property.
The list goes on
No we aren't going to communicate well in the beginning because it seems like a lot of men whether they say it or not like a challenge. We feel if we give that challenge the guy will stick around longer.
We want you to initiate everything in the beginning because it confirms that you're interested in us and only us. After that we pretty much like to initiate once we know we're not getting or going to get used.
a lot of women think men are worthless because of where they are looking for men, the media, their experience with men and their environment.
Equality -when we say we want equality it has nothing to do with relationships it is more in relation to politics. a lot of men are getting it confused.
I see. Well I know a lot of guys like me, that are super busy into our careers, we don’t have time to be chasing women and success. Don’t want an easy woman, but if I had to choose between my time with my company and a woman, I will choose my company 98% of the time. Women like to play games far too much in that regard so that’s why I say communicate and tell me what you want I’m not going to leave because it was too easy, but I will leave if it’s challenging to the point we are playing games.. and that’s what most women love to do! In my experience
Haha the initiative never carries over into the relationship.. and that’s the problem. Men have to ask for everything in the beginning.. and then we can marry you and I know a lot of husband who are unhappy because their wives don’t take initiative in getting things done around the house, in the bedroom or when it come to even there own financial responsibility.. (what debt they bring into the relationship or marriage)... so yeah, you might be different but the overarching trend with women has been the same for a while
I will agree with your men are worthless section.. yes, they look at Disney and romantic movies and think that men are suppose to be that way... we can be, but we don’t have the time to sit around and wait on a woman hand and foot when we especially the ones that have to work to provide for house wives (which is a dumb notion and idiotic decision by men to support) and stay at home moms (which is completely more understandable and I encourage that one). I’m not about to go out and bring home the bread, and then be expected to do everything in the house while the woman is capable of doing a lot of things.. just won’t happen
Equality has to start in relationships if we want it to spread to other parts of society... we teach our daughter’s as tell our daughter’s make sure you marry a man that will take care of you.. when we should be telling our daughter’s... take care of your responsibilities and yourselves! Be helpful and work hard, contribute equally in society, and society will treat you equally... now I know there are some dumb traditions out there and men that think a women’s place should be in the kitchen, cooking and cleaning and if that’s the agreement between a couple in relationship that’s fine... but that just doesn’t do a woman justice in being able to take care of herself and be treated fairly and equally. Men will never take a woman serious, if she isn’t serious about taking care of herself and her responsibilities
If initiative is not carried over then you're dating the wrong women.
Agreed. But that’s majority of my experience and the experience of a lot of men I have talked too. Again, not all women, but more then half the time when I talk to men, they have a problem with get a women to start something
Birds of a feather flock together. You and your friends might want to dig deeper within yourselves to find out why you guys keep attracting the same type of women. it might be a mirroring of yourselves
Or why you guys keep seeking them
Not all friends... when I’m on vacation (I cruise a lot all of the place) I meet people from all walks of life... and it’s a universal theme. I don’t stay in on little corner of the world. I travel and talk to people. I think the Brazilians where the most surprising, women down there are a lot more... adventurous then here and a lot of men still had these same problems
Men who don't understand women will be complaining about everything about women. I love women as they are
As a woman myself, who is interested in other women. I can tell you by personal experience and relationships, that a lot of women, myself included that we tend to type in hyroglifics when we wanna convey something important.
I don’t get it. Women seem to very extremely transparent even when they don’t mean to be 😂
I agree but apparently men dont think we are..
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I've always had anxieties dealing with people, especially women.
I don't know why, I always feared to do and say the wrong thing, and I still do a little.
I was so henpecked I was about to turn down the proposal of the girl I liked, and even now I have some insecurities when it comes to initiate things with her.
Then you dont have an "issue" with women. the issue is within you and finding ways to ease your anxiety when dealing with women yet this actually works to your advantage.
I know it's my issue and I'm working on it, I don't blame women or anyone else for my problems.
Ironically enough the best friends I have are almost all females and my girlfriend was the one who pursued after me so I'm not sure, maybe they find me endearing.
What do you mean this works to my advantage? It's for the stuff I mentioned earlier?
Because of your anxiety you're not pushy and aggressive with women. It makes us have to figure you out which is sexy and mysterious. I DONT think you need to change but if it's something you hate then yes work on it
I see what you mean.
Yes, I'm never pushy and aggressive, I like to leave other people their space so they leave me mine.
I don't hate this, I just want to work on my insecurities for the sake of intimacy with my girlfriend. She's more attractive than me, and sometimes I have a really hard time muster the confidence to initiate things with her. She initiates almost always, and although she likes it, I want to make her see I want her as much as she wants me.
I'm not sure what you see but I find you to be very attractive
We actually do like to initiate once we get to know the guy. once we find out he's not here to use and abuse us we will initiate
Thanks for your compliments, I wholeheartedly appreciate them 🙂.
I know and I'm very happy she feels so safe and comfortable with me to initiate most of the time, she's also quite the dominant type and I wholeheartedly like it.
But she also asked me to not be afraid to initiate with her once in a while, she'd like for me to be more confident.
•They are picky as far as looks and money goes
•There are so many hoes these days
•They want guys to initiate everything
•Communication they aren't straight forward
•They say they're straight but talk about how the female body is more attractive, experiment with other women and watch lesbian porn.
•were not as picky as you think. If a man is financial stable then that is enough. The ones who are picky have been hurt in the past and want to hurt men back. Avoid those.
•alot of women are hoes these days because they are insecure, feel like all men want is sex, dont have a father figure in their life to help them understand what a
Good man is vs a misogynist. Those girls have daddy issues.
•we generally want guys to initiate because yes we've been taught for decades that's how it's supposed to be.
•we aren't straight forward because we dont want to get played
•I'm straight yes I do like looking at porn of women. would I have sex with them? no I'd vomit. i prefer a relationship and sex with a man
some girls are confusing, i'm trying to get to know a girl via insta and since she hasn't blocked me yet i guess it's going quite alright 🤗
and yes i had asked her out which is the whole reason it's going this way, it didn't make it any worse i think it made it better since right after that i said ok since you don't know me do you want to get to know me and she said I don't know, i guess it doesn't hurt to haha, so yeah.
that happened
Sure
me: "i was supposed to DM you?"
her: "oh so you're the guy from sayat?"
me: "yes correct, but i'm not the one who didn't have the balls to ask you"
her:"yeah that's what i mean "
her:"you're smart aren't you? "
me:"do you mind if i ask you out? "
her:no but i don't know you "
me:"that's why i am you out "
her:"haha "
me:"i mean if you don't try you don't know "
her:" yeah that's true 🤗"
so the backstory here is that some dude on her sayat (some site that allows you to anonymously leave comments on people) that he liked her but didn't have the balls to ask her, she replied to him with go on i don't bite.
i then came in and commented on her sayat that he shouldn't try to instagram fix or sayat fix and it fucks your chances before you even try, she replied to me with: this guy is smart, can you DM me?
I think some of women aren't genuine when they interact with men.
They put on a cold personality at first and then after you start dating them they're very kind and gentle.
True, because we're trying to figure out if you're one of those jerks just looking for sex or a nice guy who wants a combo of sex with a relationship.
The same thing happened to all my 3 previous relationships.
First the girl would pretend she didn't like me (even though I knew she did)
Then after a few dates she let's down her guard and shows she's interested.
After a while she would open up completely and be honest how she felt from the very first date and show a lot of affection.
I don't know maye you're right, it's a defense mechanism.
Yes she might've been hurt before. likes a giy, gave him her all to only get let down in the end. a lot of times men make it seem like they like a challenge so that's what she was trying to give you a challenge. then once she figured out you werent like
Whoever she dealt with in the past she let her guard down
Many women expect men to always do the first step (and the second step, and the third step, etc.) but many women feel like they get a lot of unwanted male attention. Both problems could be tackled if women did the first step and didn't expect men to know when they are approachable and when they aren't. Many women often change the way how they behave towards you without any perceivable reason. It is also not easy to find a woman who is not promiscuous and selfish. And many women date guys who are clearly bad boys and then complain about how all men are horrible.
It depends on the woman
I've experienced a lot of stupidity with women, not saying men can't be stupid, but the biggest issue is they can't say what they mean, even when I ask and get mad at me for not knowing what they mean or not being concerned. Not taking a compliment when it's given and sincere. Ridiculous insecurity.
My mind turned into mashed potatoes when I started thinking about it
They throw tantrums when we don’t get what they wanted us to do after them expecting us to read their minds... UGH. Hate that shit
Well you need to learn hard to read minds
I’ll start by buying a reading minds starter pack. With all the essentials. Crystal ball and pendulum etc 😂
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u Women my age are more straightforward and easier to understand. I LOVE women!
Its pretty simple.
-Hug em
-Tell em you love em
-Fuck em
-Listen to them
-Dont lie to them
Kind of feel like I'm friend zoned, I don't know how to tell her what I feel.
If you feel friend zoned you need to speak up and ask her where you really stand with her. if you dont like what she say then leave with no explanation
At the same time, I don't want to ruin a perfectly well friendship.
Then it sounds like you need to make up your mind. at this point she's not the problem you.
I know. That the thing. It's a paradoxical place.
Yeah just figure out what's more meaningful for you
They are such a majestic creatures..
Worth loving and cherishing..
Most men fail because they are busy understanding and studying them... Like the would graduate..
Most women are weak at communication. They can be vague sometimes. Then you have to put with the ways they sugarcoat everything they do and say. Most have self-entitlement issues but that is something they never see or admit to.
I would say secretive emotional creature who believes everything and everyone is imperfect and wrong except themselves coz they "feel" like
We are secretive emotionally because men often times seem like they like a challenge. We feel that of we do spill all the beans upfront the guy will stick around
Ok you're saying secrets so what are you referring too?
Are u a secretive to yourself type person?
They expect us to read their minds
Yes we do 😂and there's nothing I can do to change that
All of the above plus bitchyness And attention whoreness
Too difficult to approach
It depends on the woman. if she's attractive she's used to being picked up on all the time. so the thought of someone approaching her is annoying.
The want us to initiate everything , at our risk
they are all correct answers
Where is the "All plus more" option?
That could take some time.
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