What do you mean? In the West women are more free and independent than even most men throughout history.. 😂.. Women in the west today have more comfort and freedom than even royalty back in the day..
@JDavid25 It's true that women are more free than a lot of men through history in most senses. We are richer and less likely to get sick and have rights today. But, comparatively, women still have less comfort and freedom than most men. And that has always been the case.
I'm appreciative of your acknowledgement of the first thing.. As for the second thing.. I can't say that that is true.. Most men and women have just been surviving together throughout history whether it be against benevolent Kings who treated the people as fairly as he could and protected them, or dictators that ripped the land apart.. It's been men and women.. One couldn't survive without the other.. That's still true today.. Well... It was true.. Now women can survive without men financially, and because of the technological ease of today, now women don't have to rely on men to do dangerous jobs and bring home the bread.. When they can just get a nice comfy job in an air conditioned office and be independent.. But women in a lot of ways have it better than men today.. They get more scholarships, they have more programs aimed at them.. Men are most of the homeless population yet people hardly care to give them assistance like they would if women were.. Women graduate at higher rates from college than men.. And men have no reproductive right.. That's just some things..
@JDavid25 What you are saying does, I feel, embellish reality slightly. Of course, both men and women have been oppressed by various people over the centuries, including members of the nobility in a variety of cultures. But what cannot be denied is that, on average, the world has generally been safer for men than for women. And that is not to deny that men have their own issues, but women's issues still exist. Issues for all people should be eradicated, but the average woman has generally been given less freedom than the overall man throughout history.
Of course.. But I can't say I agree.. I mean men are and probably have always been more likely to get killed than a woman.. Somebody would easily be more violent to a man than a woman.. Like people usually will mug a man before they do a woman.. But, I do see that women are more likely to be sexually assaulted than the regular man.. And are physically not as strong so they can't protect themselves as well.. That bein said men are and have been throughout history seen as disposable.. Bein sent to war and charge with makin sure women and children are protected is indicative of that..
@JDavid25 Yes, both men and women have been seen as disposable. Of course, men did get sent off to war and put in lots of dangerous jobs, and men still face those pressures, which is certainly something that we need to look at as a society today. Women do have to go through childbirth though, which I know is natural, but it was very dangerous because of doctors for a lot longer than it needed to be.
Well women and children were always the priority to protect.. Whichbis why women didn't go to war.. Because men were seen as the stronger more disposable sex.. One man and 100 women could create an entire villain.. As long as you had a lot of women and any number of men, you had everything you needed from bein wiped out.. But, I'm glad you acknowledged that.. And yeah I recognize that a lot of times in the past givin birth was a dangerous thing for a lot of women..
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Also, don't buy into this narrative that somehow women must be as good or better as men. We complement each other : men are better are some things while women are better at other things and I think it's beautiful that, together, we become much stronger than alone and independent. This is not a competition nor a war between men and women. Let's work together towards a better world.
^I agree, thanks for sharing your opinion 💞
you're welcome. one last piece of advise: not everything people tell you that you should want is bullshit. so being critical is ok. but rejecting everything is bad too. it's a tough balance to be struck, that people sometimes struggle to get right their entire life.
that's exactly it, the state has become her father/boyfriend
You are right on this!
Ikr, it's so painfully true. Anytime I find myself having to rely on someone else, even if it's something small like meeting someone for dinner or drinks or a movie, I'm left waiting and I'm just like damn I can't even rely on you to be on time?
Very good point! I share your pain on this one.
but that means you are still dependent, you need his attention and his care.
@UnlimitedGainz astute observation. In a healthy relationship, we can only hope to get affection and care.
"Hope to get affection and care", that means you hope to have someone on your side for that bullshit then you call yourself independent, yea i see so much logic in your statement lol.
@UnlimitedGainz because that's what a loving relationship is, dingus.
you are stating bullshit and contradicting yourself, if you are independent just like i am, then you do not depend on any body on anything. with that said, having friends or being in a relationship is absolute bullshit, i was dependent to my parents when i was kid and that is the only time i was dependent.
@UnlimitedGainz you need a therapist. Being in a loving relationship, is a want not a need. Women can perfectly satisfied with a dildo, and dildos don't need therapists. Even though a dildo satisfies the need for attention and care, there are still women that want a man.
You can apply your stupid logic in anything to escape from claiming that you are independent, by saying it is a want not a need, so maybe it is you who need a therapist and you must learn logic, maybe you need to study some more mathematics and physics so that you become sage instead of being an emotional weak minded individual.
@UnlimitedGainz No one asked for a novel from you because no one cares about your opinion.
I am not giving you an opinion, this is what the word independent means in the English dictionary, you can learn the real definition or pretend to be independent, i don't give a fuck, you can do what ever your natural instinct tells you to do.
@UnlimitedGainz that's nice. I think you should see a therapist, but you aren't going to do that. We can't all get what we want.
Cry more and keep showing your weakness, if you feel triggered keep it discrete, telling me that i should seek for therapist is not going to make you feel better. you are not alone, you are just one of many annoying emotional weak minded women.
@UnlimitedGainz that's nice. I'm going to go take a nap.
@likelyOK thanks kind lady 😉
in modern society your more dependent on others than ever. it's really about false sense of safety and control.
@beefy40 Its about having your own job. Your own source of income.
"independent' means more than income. it's a code.
@beefy40 what does it mean to you?
@beefy40 you have to fill me in on that.