Why are so many women obsessed with the concept of being independent? (Page 2)
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Independence in itself is a necessary step towards self actualisation. But "strong independent woman" is kind of a meme at this point, like, you don't need to constantly tell the world how independent you are. It's like guys who go around telling everyone they're an alpha male-- the fact they need to tell people that just means they aren't really an alpha
Because being independent is what adults do. For me, my drive to be independent comes from not being able to rely on other people, in the end I know about the only person I can rely on is myself. I'd assume it's the same for a lot of other people too.
You are right on this!
Ikr, it's so painfully true. Anytime I find myself having to rely on someone else, even if it's something small like meeting someone for dinner or drinks or a movie, I'm left waiting and I'm just like damn I can't even rely on you to be on time?
Very good point! I share your pain on this one.
You are right it is because of feminism.. It's teach society this big lie that men subjugated women for millenniums, and that finally women got the right to be independent from oppressive men from the... Patriarchy.. And now women are less happy than they were on the past because now they try to do anything, or act like they can.. Women always had independence in some sorts.. But in the past they just relied on they husbands financially more.. Which most at the time didn't mind..
It's fashionable to be independent at the moment which has some near term benefits (although they don't appear to have realised they are becoming tax slaves like the guys yet).
Longer term, not clear what impact this will have on society but lower marriage rates, higher divorce rates and sky high single parent families seem like a bad thing.
because in the past women were treated like mans property and fully depended on a man. They had to marry and put up with that guy however he may treated them, basically they had no freedom. So its important to be independent cause if you have your own money you can leave a guy if he treats you badly, abuses you or its just not working anymore.
I was raised to not ever depend on other people because the only person you can truly depend on in this life, is yourself. At least now if I have a guy romantically involved in my life, it's because I want him here not because I need him.
but that means you are still dependent, you need his attention and his care.
@UnlimitedGainz astute observation. In a healthy relationship, we can only hope to get affection and care.
"Hope to get affection and care", that means you hope to have someone on your side for that bullshit then you call yourself independent, yea i see so much logic in your statement lol.
@UnlimitedGainz because that's what a loving relationship is, dingus.
you are stating bullshit and contradicting yourself, if you are independent just like i am, then you do not depend on any body on anything. with that said, having friends or being in a relationship is absolute bullshit, i was dependent to my parents when i was kid and that is the only time i was dependent.
@UnlimitedGainz you need a therapist. Being in a loving relationship, is a want not a need. Women can perfectly satisfied with a dildo, and dildos don't need therapists. Even though a dildo satisfies the need for attention and care, there are still women that want a man.
You can apply your stupid logic in anything to escape from claiming that you are independent, by saying it is a want not a need, so maybe it is you who need a therapist and you must learn logic, maybe you need to study some more mathematics and physics so that you become sage instead of being an emotional weak minded individual.
@UnlimitedGainz No one asked for a novel from you because no one cares about your opinion.
I am not giving you an opinion, this is what the word independent means in the English dictionary, you can learn the real definition or pretend to be independent, i don't give a fuck, you can do what ever your natural instinct tells you to do.
@UnlimitedGainz that's nice. I think you should see a therapist, but you aren't going to do that. We can't all get what we want.
Cry more and keep showing your weakness, if you feel triggered keep it discrete, telling me that i should seek for therapist is not going to make you feel better. you are not alone, you are just one of many annoying emotional weak minded women.
@UnlimitedGainz that's nice. I'm going to go take a nap.
The media. How else would they sell you all the stuff you don't need. It takes very little to be happy with the right person - the lower the 'keeping up with the joneses' ambition, the lower the effort required to keep up (and the health bill from overworking)
Financial independence is important. Having a career is important. This is not obsession. This is growing up and being an adult. Being an independent woman does not and should not mean devaluing the family institution or disrespecting your partner.
Omg, it has nothing to do with feminism. Not every woman is a feminist and everything doesn't have to evolve or be labeled as such.
I believe everyone wants to be independent. Why not? Who wants to be living ag home with mommy and daddy in their 30s? In this day and age if you dont have a career or money sorry you can't buy anything. Prices are increasing continuously. The world stops for no one.
Independence and self reliance are positives , for a man especially , the only person you can truly rely on is yourself... for me personally , this applies more so as a single FT working parent. However the " Strong Independent Womyn TM " tends to brag , be obnoxious & rude & also tends to have a very low opinion of men in general , mainly due to intense dogmatic Cultural Marxist / feminist indoctrination @ the expensive indoctrination camps... known to most as universities.
Because women are by nature followers. This is why no matter how hard they try they cannot as a whole surpass mens ambitions. They want and enjoy being being led. So when their fathers at home do not lead them up until they have a husband who leads them, they look to media and other women and things like that to lead them.
I think everyone wants the ability to be self autonomous and not dependent on another person. Like most people want a relationship, but they don’t want to completely depend on their partner.
So the answer to your question is because women are people too.
Because being dependent sucks. I used to be miserable before I earned my own independence, and I see what other women get into when they become too dependent as well. You become trapped and at the mercy of others. That’s no way to live.
Societal push. Most girls don't care about being independent, but many want to be viewed as independent. It's the perception of independence most girls want because they don't want to be seen as helpless.
It seems like a very healthy thing to me. If you can only attract a woman because she is unable to take care of herself, then you aren't all that attractive. I want a woman to choose me, not to just cling to me out of need.
Because they are still be told in 2020 they are “victims of patriarchy” which is absolutely bs.
Your a kid so you got a lot in front of you. But be weary of what your HS teachers are telling you. Most of them are liberals who don’t know how to separate opinion from fact. It only gets worse (and insane) in college.
Probably a mixture of feminism and the society's culture in which they live.
I don't think there's anything wrong with it. We're able to do things women never could not that long ago and that's awesome!
All humans should be independent. We essentially travel through the world with ourselves. Doesn’t mean we don’t Have human connections and that we can’t give and take help. I think this question is not relatable for women in the world who truly don’t get to experience independence in their daily life.
because all people should be able to adult.
my father taught me how to be independent. That the best skill you can develop. you do not need to be a feminist to be able to hold yourself up.
They have been brainwashed by the feminist based society to believe it’s how they should be. Even the stupid school system is feminist based.
Its the reason women’s happiness had declined significantly over the last 40 years.
Women are given unreachable expectations which make them feel like failures.