Yes, most guys (not all) are so desperate that they’ll hit on the average girl, this inflates their ego, so they won’t settle for the average guy (in the same league as them) because they think they can get a guy levels above them (on the 1-10 scale) eventually these guys lower their standard to below average girls which then inflates their egos and the cycle repeats, basically every girl thinks she can get a guy above her looks scale, eventually they hit the wall and lower their standards themselves, but try telling that to a girl that’s not hit the wall yet, social media doesn’t help either, girls are nasty and they’ll never comment compliments on a hot girls page yet they always comment compliments on their average/below average friends photos because they themselves feel sorry for them because they think they’re better looking than them, when is inflating their ego and then they comment the same thing back which inflates their egos, seriously. Go look at a female friends social media, it be full of comments like “omg babe you look so hot” or “beautiful” or “sexy AF”
Saw this myself. I know girls legit talked negatively behind their back about their looks that attempted to seduce me a bit while playing air hockey to try and distract me. Long story short I won the game and the bet because Im not the horny dog she likely considers men to be automatically. I was one of like four boyfriends she had including like two abusive ones ofc.
My ex before her was much bigger than her too and likely talked about even more negatively. Still had guys giving her gifts and stuff.
I figure girls really don't have to do that much these days to get some sort of liking from guys. Period. Any bit of beauty they may have and some guy put there is attracted.
It's not the opposite way for sure. And their heads get bigger every day from it... And then they hit the wall at 30
POOF! Another Karen is born.
Oh wow I’d neverrr say that. Even when sometimes I look in the mirror and think I look good, I still would never think I’m too hot for anyone.
I know some very average looking girls that probably do think they’re God’s gift, but I don’t waste my thoughts on people like that.
I guess being a guy it’s different because it’s the opposite gender.
That being said though I really really don’t like guys that boast about themselves it’s so off putting, and that goes for both physical looks and materialistic things like earning well and having money. There’s a fine line between confidence and being a nob.
What's the right way for a guy to project that he is wealthy without it being off putting?
There’s ways he can speak of his success without sounding like he’s boasting.
If he’s got a high paying job he could say “I’ve worked hard to be where I am in my career and now I’m in XXX position” or something that implies he’s hard working and appreciates what he has. What I don’t like is a guy saying “I’ve got a great job, I’m kind of a big deal and I earn a £xxxx salary”
Materialistically no ones needs to know if you’re driving a Porsche, wear a Rolex, have X amount of savings/inheritance, or own X amount of houses etc just don’t say that out loud you’ll attract the wrong kinda people but also let your actions speak for you.
Tbh I think that’s actually their insecurity coming through. Anyone who has to say “I am so hot, you better be grateful to have me” is a shallow insecure fuck, male or female. My ex was like that, cheated on me and was faced with the reality of it - he’s weird and cheated on a good woman with something that just washed up onto the shore because that’s all he could get. Heard he’s in therapy now. Reality will hit them soon enough.
It will hit them but probably not soon.
@Marilynjuana I don't follow, lol.
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Probably yeah. Like I have this friend who's not bad looking and is kinda chunky but she has such high standards for men. Yes she does manage to date these men but they all just want here for sex rather than herself. Like she's average or below average looking (of course I never say that), she isn't espicially bright, left school at 16, lives with her parents, earns minimum wage, works in a chip shop, can't drive, has no car yet can't understand why some 6ft+, handsome, educated, independently wealthy, big dick prince charming only wants to pump and dump her. Like Cinderella was at least beautiful but in the real world of 2020 at most Prince Charming would have knocked her up and paid child support while marrying a princess.
What do you have against confident women? The world is always going to judge you and say you're not good enough, so why do it to yourself too? I think everyone should think of themselves as a 10/10 and never settle for anything less than they think they deserve. What difference does it make to you? and who told you it was ok to rate human beings? I'm sure some of those women are shallow and do it themselves, but this makes you just as bad. We demand people to reach our level, we don't lower ourselves to theirs.
But they demand people ready a way higher level than them. For example im athletic and have a six pack but fat girls are bragging to me how hot they are... bullshit.
There is no universal measure of attractiveness. Why can't larger women feel attractive? Do people who are comfortable in their own skin threaten your existing ideas of when a person is allowed to feel content? I have been attracted to skinny guys, athletic guys, larger guys ext.. not everyone is as shallow as you :) Grow up and stop thinking you have the right to tell people when they do and do not have the right to feel good about themselves. It's childish, shallow and pathetic.
And prancing around talking about how hot you are isn't shallow? Smh. These are girls with disgusting personalities. But add that they are lard asses saying they are hot is just a new level of retardedness. And no. Obsese people shouldn't feel happy about being unhealthy. Its gross.
And I think your mindset is gross :) Arrogant and entitled man, very unattractive. Have a nice life judging everyone based on how they look, Im sure it will make you very happy.
You obviously are one of these girls. I go out with normal looking girls just fine. Just not ones with disgusting big heads about their looks.
I genuinely dont care what kind of girl you think I am xD dont act morally high and mighty after calling a whole group of people disgusting. Go stroke your fragile ego elsewhere.
So you dont think murderers are disgusting? There are absolutely groups of people who are disgusting
are you comparing people who eat a lot and people who kill? Please, if you're going to make ridiculous strawman man arguments, don't reply at all. You're purposefully misinterpreting what I wrote.
@6suejsjsj I see that they exist, but they're made by the media. Many studies have shown that what we find attractive in celebrities for example, we may not take a second look at on the street. However, because we have a herd mentality, 9/10 we will automatically think someone is good looking if the general consensus is that they. Thats why these 'objective' beauty standards change so drastically over the years and between cultures. Otherwise no, people like what they like and there is no perfect. Beauty in about what's inside.
You said "Have a nice life judging everyone based on how they look..." nice misrepresenting my argument when clearly i said "they demand people with a way higher level than them" which is clearly regarding their attitude which i find disgusting. Simply being more average looking is not disgusting, the act of getting in peoples faces about how hot they "are" is what my problem is.
you called obese people gross... You also basically said that people that dont meet your particular standard of beauty aren't allowed to think they're attractive. Honestly Im not going to bother anymore, its not like you're suddenly going to stop being a hypocrite.
Obese people are not attractive. Objectively. Fact.
As I said, I dont argue with arrogant, hypocritical men. Have a good one.
How is it hypocritical? Im not obese.
when you have the guys who are 7,8,9,10's. dating girls who are 5,6,7,8,9,10's. is it no real wonder. many girls think they can do better then just an average guy.
more attractive guys date down or hookup with girl. most often for some quick and easy sexual encounters. with no real intend of staying with them long term. even if they knock her up. unless she has a personality they enjoy.
so most guys date equal or below their own level for looks, income and age.
where as most girls date equal or above their own level for looks, income and age.
Well it's okay to have confidence but probably shouldn't be arrogant about it.
I have and never will consider myself hot or sexy. I see myself as average.
If anything I think I have a decent personality.
Hopefully you find a nice, down to earth girl :)
This is quite shallow. I would never be attracted to someone describing themselves in this way whether they’re average or more or less, such attitude is just immature. Mature people wouldn’t brag about their looks because they respect themselves and they are rational enough to realize that other people can see and appreciate beauty without being overly demanded to do so.
I presume that part of it is that pretty much any girl can get laid by above average guys if she wants to.
Also, there's no accounting for taste. E. g, maybe most men, even seriously hot ones, don't have the sort of expectations on womens' bodies that you appear to.
Well getting laid isn't really a metric for women on how attractive they are. A 300lb picasso faced paraplegic will get swipes on tinder too. Lmao.
Yeah kinda.
Even average girls will get tons of interest/complements from the opposite sex which can definitely give them an ego.
The woman I've heard talking like this are generally insecure. A friend of mine was dating a woman like this. She openly talks about how "sexy" she is and how men love her body, but in reality she was bulimic and constantly obsessed with little things she didn't like about herself. I am not making light if body dysmorphia, it's a serious mental issue, my only point is that over confidence is often a sign of low self confidence.
I'd literally kick those girls from behind of they ever say those things.
There's no need to be so full of yourself. If you want a man, then stop saying that you're when you're not. These types of things makes me gag. Yes, I'll date a girl, but not a girl who is so full of herself.
Some girls dont realize how important aesthetics is to most guys. That being said, I hope you aren't being mean to them about it because girls have to put up with a lot crap from each other and if they think they look good then good for them. About the arrogant ones, its possible they find the guys that will screw anything that breaths so they say whatever they can to get her in bed.
How exactly does this conversation come up when you meet these ladies?
My coworker once said that the loudest people are usually the most insecure. I think that’s the case with these girls. Outwardly saying “I’m hot so you should consider yourself lucky to have me” is way of covering her insecurities.
Yeah, but that goes both ways. In my college, there were a lot of really handsome shy men who later said that they had been interested but afraid to approach me, yet I had some morbidly obese, foul, unattractive, and plain-looking men not only come onto me but be rude when I turned them down.
I wouldn't be harsh but I'd definitely play with their arrogance and say "well if you said it I won't disagree" 😁 watch the reaction
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what really bothers me is they want you to be 6’+ with a career a house and a vehicle... it’s like bitch you don’t have any of these things how you gonna expect them of me when I got a firmer ass than you lmao
You may be perceiving their sexual market value as lower than the rest of the world sees it. I don’t think a lot of men understand how they experience life as a woman. They’re saying those things simply because they can.
there’s a video of a tinder experiment on YouTube... woman made a tinder for a man and posted a pic of him and wrote a bio for him and even lied and made him out to be some kinda PhD type... after running his profile for a week she was pissed about the matches and options and had to stop the experiment lmao
Oh yeah... A lot of women think they are soooo much hotter than they really are. One of my truisms of life is that basically every woman I've ever met thinks she is hot shit.
Yes. Go on tinder and see how you match. She can have certain standards in regards to physical features but you cannot otherwise you will be a jerk or shame them in some way.
Self worship is often a sign that a girl actually hates her own looks. Not always the case, but she will tell herself that she's beautiful because she doesn't actually believe it.
Since I turned 14, I've seen more average looking girls and women be arrogant about their looks than more attractive women, some of whom don't fully realize how beautiful they are. I will say this, though- this seems to end before they hit 40.
I never met anyone like that.
Most girls I know don't talk about their looks, are insecure or have an "it could be worse" attitude.
Same with guys.
These opinions look so weird to meee 😂
But I also don't work with leagues or levels in my head.
If a 2 and a 8 like each other and they have a perfect relationship why judge them.
To me the personality is worth more than the outside, beauty fades with time.
Of course there needs to be some kind of an attraction but you can probably also find that 2 levels below you or something?
Beauty fades but not very fast. If someone is truly beautiful it makes a world of difference from 18 to about 65 is where it goes downhill fast. This is also if they keep up on it. So about 47 years if y'all hs sweethearts for example. Not this quick flash thats gone so quick. Long time to be with someone ugly.
Who said it hurts your eyes?
a lot of people think they're way better than they are, not just girls lol. but yea, I've known a lot of girls including plain ass girls who thought they were hot and who'd even say they were pretty out loud
6-8 is a tougher market and these women are well aware. These are the women most men want to settle down with and marry, to avoid competition and have a lower chance of infedility. Granted 8 is higher risk, but mid range 7, gets maximum benefit, while still looking pretty. These are the tendencies for shallow men, which has a greater effect. Biologically it makes no difference and attraction is better described in levels rather than a 10 point scale.
I think I've dated 8s with too many insecurities. But yea 5s do probably think they are better looking than they are cause some guys were probably looking for a easy lay, and made her feel like the most beautiful girl in the world
Yes, lots of average girls are extremely arrogant.
The main reason for this is because they conflate men wanting to have sex with them as being desirable. What they ignore is that men want to sleep with every other girl just as much. Basically men need to stop being pigs and giving women constant ego boosts.
A lot of girls are actually REALLY insecure about their looks.
I'm not but in all actuality, I am a feminist, I actually cut my hair really short at one point. I would date an ugly guy If I loved him/had feelings for him.
Oh God. Smh.
So if they have supermodel looks, that gives them a free pass to be stuck up bitches? It doesn't matter if they are a 1 or a 10, they are narcissistic and shallow.
Yea humble people don't have to say that they're humble... Therefore it seems like self consciousness masking as conceit
Women are often confused in this area. I run into a lots of 4's who think they are 8's, and lots of 7's and 8's who think they are average.
Seems like it. More likely though it's just projection; they know they're not actually all that but they think that confidence can win the day for them, so they act like they're hot as fuck. It's annoying though to see too much of it.
Reason is there is a gender imbalance plus there is media reach using tiktok type of products allowung every girl to think she is a super model😂
You cannot have big head about looks when you look terrible always 😎👌
Or maybe what find attractive is different than what others find attractive. What a thought.
I'm average looking and i do not think like that, i always hope to find a average looking dude like myself one day.
Define 'many'... I probably wouldn't think so... ..
Yeah because even average looking girls still get a lot of sexual interest from guys or have other women telling them how beautiful they are.
No. Actually, I feel like lots of girls (including me) are very insecure about their looks.
Some are like that but many average looking girls think they’re ugly so I think there’s a balance...
Sounds like u need to hang around different people lol. They sound really stuck up.
It’s average for everyone to think their above average. It’s actually a phenomenon in statisics.
It's not like they think they're incredibly hot. But guys would chase a girl even if she's just average...
Thank you for putting up with my attitude.
You don't have a bad attitude. Not with me anyways.
Statistically women tend to overestimate their attractiveness by 20-30%
Pfff!! That's soo dumb and utterly PATHETIC it's a little funny those right there r some good kills.
Yes they do. Bevause they get some attention they start to think their an 8 or a 9
Sometimes you gotta go back to the roots and look at how they were raise.
Yes. Many women think they are prettier than they are.
Ever wondered where they got that big head from?
Probably all the idiot men running around telling these fat ass sweat pant wearing hos they are beautiful queens.
Even the fat ugly ones.
I've never had a girl ever act like that to me.
Not really many think that they’re just plain
Yes LOL its very true.
No. Most women I know are super insecure.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
The ladies I am around are big bold blk women.
Noooo lol
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