+1 yBecause it's easier to hate/blame others than to take blame or responsibility...
We've become a society where it's too easy and too easily justified to hate, blame, shame others...
It don't matter if it's men doing it, women doing it. Hating because if one's gender, race, sexual orientation, religious beliefs, or political beliefs is just stupid.. Have differences, different way of life, different views and beliefs, but why hate on others for theirs... People forget there's a difference between "wrong" and
"wrong for you"... I find it disturbing how easy it is for people to hate instead of showing just a little kindness.63 Reply- +1 y
I enjoyed reading your comment and gave it a "thumbs up."
Every self-improvement guru tells us to stop blaming other people and society for our problems. Start taking responsibility for one's own actions. Be accountable. However, in today's world, it seems like there are so many organizations blaming society or another person for their misfortunes. I see a lot of men and women blaming the other sex. - +1 y
@David92506 exactly!!! I see it too
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I don't know I avoid a lot of men nowadays they know how to talk or treat women
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With how women treat men does that surprise you?
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So what if your not. Your not a vocal or important figure screaming to treat men better so... forgive me but you donāt matter much. I donāt say that to be mean but your opinion has no effect on a majority of men who suffer. And if they had voices like yours over the trash they hear about #killallmen manner they would be different.
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And because women like you arenāt a major voice supporting men that we hold all women accountable. Neither side without fault.
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I agree and itās your silence that allows it. Man are strong we got this... but you know. Strength without support. Eventually the rock gives to water and wind.
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Your 32 if you think a good manās gonna be looking for an old woman... I hope he comes along soon.
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@VanillaSalt sexist detected
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Her points are valid though. Itās basically the same for me and many men like me. Because women CAN destroy us with a whim and because success in marriage is so unrealistic I distance myself from what I want more than anything else. A wife and kids... I refuse to be a martyr to a system thatās truly sexist.
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Sheās talking about me sheās following me around calling me sexist.
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Because there was so much hate towards men. Women actively sought justice in society for inequality by grouping all men as a whole. Going after them with a vengeance. Not caring that all men weren't to blame. Men understandably got sick of being viewed a certain way just because they were men. Women went about it all in the wrong way. Instead of just making a stand they started a manhunt against all men. Almost as if to oppress them. Some people who are oppressed or who have been in the past tend to seek justice until they are satisfied. They won't ever stop until they feel as if other's finally understand. Which is the wrong mindset because people who have never experienced inequality will never understand. They can sympathize and show consideration but they can never fully understand. That's why it keeps getting worse. Hence why men are fighting back, they are getting a taste of inequality from the women and society as a whole. But did it help? Nope. Inequality is not fair to anyone and it's frustrating especially when they aren't the ones to be blamed. It pisses people off when there is no justice. They will always fight back. It's a vicious cycle. Oppression doesn't fix oppression. Only causes more angry oppressed groups of people. I'm sorry to say but women have made a mess out of it. They not only didn't fix the problems we were facing but they actually did the opposite. Now more men hate us and do not care about our equal rights. Now men are taking it to the same extreme in retaliation. I only foresee this getting worse. And sadly us women are going to see ourselves right back where we started and sadly the majority of women will blame the men as a whole for it once again. People don't understand that it took years and years for women to even become this equal to men by slowly making a stand against individuals, the actual people that were to blame. Women don't want to accept that coming in hard and fast against all men actually destroyed all that hard work. And I'm sorry but men are now becoming just as bad by blaming all women as a whole. I'm honestly disappointed that I haven't seen any men have a change of perspective on women's inequality from the inequality they've been going through. Obviously I don't believe it's right but I seriously thought that there would be more of an understanding.
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That's a pretty accurate summery. Spot on, really.
But I strongly disagree with you when you say men haven't had a change of perspective on women's inequality. None of the positive changes that happened for women's rights over the last century happened without the help and support of a hell of a lot of good men over the years. Now that it has come time for women to return that favor, we sure don't see many good women who are actually willing to do that. You sound like one who is, and I appreciate you for that. But why are there not more? - +1 y
Itās not fixable in the same way women got equality. Blacks got equality because they showed they were more than property. Women got equality because men for the most part wanted to be good and just and please them. How do you get equality for men? I know what needs to change but how do you argue this change? Itās unfair? Men are built to be stoic. Tough. If weāre not our family is one crisis away from dying. Women demand this from us. Show emotion. Donāt be assertive except in bed. Make the first move but donāt push it. And if your ugly forget all that and stay silent.
Look at rape. Itās unfair for women but if you push believe all women itās unfair for men. If you criminalize false rape you risk rape victims suffering more but if you donāt you risk innocent men suffering more.
Unfair is in everything around us in everything. Inequality... is life. Iām tired of hearing unfair and equality...
Iām stuck between risking my freedom, finance, futures, and family or upholding what I believe a man to be by stopping and helping a woman in need... and I have chosen myself. Thereās video showing woman being raped in nyc subway. Nobody stopped it. Man was arrested in Australia for helping her change a tire and she got him in false rape allegations. I had opportunity to change 3 young ladies tire few weeks back... I didnāt. New video 65 year old Asian woman going to church beaten nearly to death by young black man in Manhattan. 2 security guys nearby closed the door cause he and she were so loud. Nobody helped. Man on train beaten by crazed man... 2 large whites men left her to take him alone, she called them out for not helping...
This is what women have chosen. Them for choosing and you for staying silent. Now watch as violent crime goes up because women and men arenāt there to make each other whole. - +1 y
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You're correct in that aspect. I apologize for my assumption. I've just seen more men speaking up against women than men speaking up for women. But that is being closeminded on my part. Yes, it wouldn't have been possible without the help of good men. They had to go against the majority of their own gender. Tbh I think women are more susceptible to their own gender. Females are just more insecure than males. We are easier to be mislead or manipulated by other women. I think the difference is that men don't usually shame each other like women always have. It was easier for them to go against their own because they didn't receive a lot of backlash from other men. That's honestly the only reason I can think of why there are not more women willing to return the favor. It's not an excuse but trust me, it's a real problem within the female gender. Even on just this app, anytime I say anything in defense against men that show women in a bad light, It's always down voted by other women. I've also said things that show some men in a bad light but not one man ever down voted it. They respectfully reply with what they disagree with. Women would come back aggressively. It's just so disappointing to see. I wish more women were realizing what this is doing to not only men but to us as well. I hate putting a distinction on men vs women because I honestly view each person as an individual. I seriously feel for men especially the ones that can still see women in a good light. But I also feel for the women who have to suffer the consequences of being a female even though they themselves aren't in agreement with the majority of their gender about men. - +1 y
Why though? Why do they have to suffer consequences? Since when are the consequences for doing the right thing considered more than the right thing itself?
I appreciate you admitting this... what are you doing to fix it? 10 years ago a woman would not suffer abuse in my presence... nobody would suffer without me doing whatever I could to help them. Now. Society has fallen and women contribute to this I argue more than men. What do we do?
I chose to stop, the other day I didnāt help 3 Women with changing a tire. I donāt pay 100% for first dates anymore. I havenāt held the door for years since a woman screamed at me for doing it at Walmart. I wonāt step up to a man abusing a woman on the street for fear of being condemned by the law... this society was pushed by feminists and activists. And allowed by women and weak men. - +1 y
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I agree with mostly everything. You have very good points and I get the feeling you feel hopeless for both genders in a sense. But I'm going to be blunt and honest. And its not attacking you in any way. I'm just trying to point out a certain pov you're not seeing.
"Since when are the consequences for doing the right thing considered more than the right thing itself?"
You're own words.
Now look at what you've said in you're last paragraph. Also the paragraph about rape on your previous reply.
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lol I was thinking about this while writing this. And Iām fighting with myself between doing what I believe is a manās duty or even humanities duty and doing what keeps me safe. That being said itās not just about protecting myself. I want people to see these poor people suffering.
Suffering brings us together. It also makes us grow and become stronger. Itās like death. While itās sad itās necessary. Bittersweet. Itās my hope that women understand men are suppressed to be there for them and they recognize or sacrifice for them and they always try and make it worth our time with something simple like respect. But thatās not happening. - +1 y
I completely understand what and why you do this. But isn't it just trying to do what the majority of women are doing to men? To get them to understand and see what was done to them. Fighting fire with fire. It just doesn't work.
I too struggled with staying silent because it's hard and feels like a helpless cause. Because seeing things like youāve said makes it feel helpless for me to even try to be supportive of men. Because women will still continue to suffer even the ones who support men.
It's a tough situation. But I'm going to do what I believe what's right regardless of the consequences. I don't think what's happening is fair to either genders especially the ones who do care equally for both.
I only want to point out the rape issue. That one really gets to me. Because I've seen a lot of men have the same view as you. I 100% agree that false accusations are bullshit and detrimental to men. But false accusations are also detrimental to the women who actually get raped. It comes down to which one is of more importance. A man's reputation or a women getting rape. Destroyed reputation vs Rape. If we took out the gender aspects, which one would you say is worse?
We can't control what other's do. Only what we do or don't do. Yes it seems helpless because we are only individuals. But I honestly believe that if we just keep doing what is right and fair. Keep standing up for those things. That we will have a better chance at change than if we were to just give up and protect ourselves. - +1 y
I see what your saying and Iām not sure I can put it in words so Iāll instead describe how I feel about it and you can draw a conclusion.
Women have all the power. Men give it to them as a whole because they like that pussy. They will simp and women will take advantage. If men just continue with the status quo women will remain in power maintaining the female privilege they have and gaining more power and control. For instance the push for financial equality. If we make the same then you shouldnāt be allowed to claim alimony in divorce and shouldnāt require a man to have equal or more money to date them and you shouldnāt require them to pay the whole bill on dates... sorry I donāt mean you as in you but you as in general. I have this bad habit.
Also to compare rape to reputation... their the same. To women their feelings are everything and rape tramples these feelings. To men our reputation is everything. Itās our ability to make friends, get jobs, get women... itās our value. So the loss of either sides a terrible atrocity. Itās not about who loses more thatās just victim hood. Itās about what can we do so neither lose anything.
Women respect men and I bet the relationship between men and women improve. This leads to men defending women again. These assholes have their white knights to save them from the rape. These white knights get fame for their selflessness and attract wealth, power, women... men feel better about women so many things happen... they want this so they respect women. So they stop raping as much. So they treat them better. And when men fail the last 2 you have millions of men to fight them off. Men see this masculinity and choose to be better men for more of this attention. Women are attracted to these better quality men. More men get sex and good relationships... and we start over men want it more and improve more.
I canāt think of the opposite argument where following the status quo gets us to the same place. Just a bunch of bitter men. - +1 y
Iām nothing if not honest lol.
Thanks for the conversation. - +1 y
@crazyish Thank you for that. I love women in general and I think most have good hearts, but there is definitely a problem between men and women today and I blame both for different reasons. I agree with everything you said here. I don't know what it will take to repair the problem but I appreciate you for your honesty.
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u +1 yThat depends on your definition of "hate." I say this because "hate", rather than being a feeling of strong distaste and contempt for someone or something, has basically been reduced to "anything that doesn't 100% to the letter agree with or approve of me or something I like".
This new definition of hate doesn't take into account (though I'd say "blatantly ignores" would be a more accurate term) that people do in fact have legitimate and well-reasoned disagreements. And in more cases than many people today are willing to realize, there are objectively right ways of thinking and acting and those that are objectively wrong, some even downright dangerous. The wrong ways of thinking and acting should be identified and called out.
As it relates to women, today's culture tries to make the exception the rule and it demonizes the right that men have to be men and to have things that are unique to them, which they alone can celebrate with each other. Case in point, within the last few years, the US Navy allowed a woman to attend Navy SEAL training. She didn't make it, but the fact that there is a push for something like this takes something away from the uniqueness of a man.
There's a lot more that could be said about this, but the point is that "hate" is a term that has been expanded and twisted to mean something that it's not.00 Reply
+1 yBecause a lot of disgusting men have a sense of entitlement and when a woman is stopping them from getting what they feel entitled to just because of there gender they then blame women and become resentful instead of looking at themselves. Women and men should be equal yet for example if a woman gets a job a man also applied for them types of entitled men will assume it's just because she's a woman not because she suited the role better than he did and but he shouldn't try to better himself because in his head he's already the best and no woman could compare to him causing more hate and resentment to women. a lot of these women haters don't want women to be equal to them and think just because they are male they are better than any woman there for have a sense of entitlement over them. Some women even hate on other women just to impress misogynistic men and come off edgy and "different to other girls". They act like being feminine is a bad thing and act like there special just because they play video games and eat pizza like us feminine girls do that too we are all individuals not the same we just don't brag about it like acting more masculine is somewhat better than being a feminine women and in there stupid head they think the Tom boy / cool girl act will attract guys when it usually the opposite straight men like women who act like women not women who change the whole personality just to impress them and get closer to them that's how you get friend zoned unless you're really hot. I notice a lot of hate towards white women most and yes the typical white girls do bring it on themselves sometimes when they act super cringy but not all white women are the same we are all individuals.
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So for having no spaces in this sentence I don't know why my phone has done that. was fine whilst I was typing it
+1 yThe truth is that a lot of the men that hate women struggle with relationships. They often can't maintain relationships or they struggle to enter relationships. Many of these men are losers that still live with their parents when they're 25 and older, have poor social skills, are physically unattractive and sexually unappealing, have small dicks, lack the confidence to approach women and want women to do the approaching for them, are broke because they refuse to work well-paying jobs, and constantly need women or others to hold their hand in life. When women make it clear that they don't want men with such characteristics, they get upset and blame women in general and feminism for their problems instead self-improving themselves to become better men. They believe that being "nice" is all that's required to attract women.
Of course, the confident, attractive, and socially adept men that don't live with their parents that are in good, healthy relationships don't often have these same negative sentiments towards women. In some cases, such men might have been (sexually) abused by their mom or other female family members as children. Other times, they either have negative experiences with women and judge all or most women negatively based on non-representative samples. For example, if a man suffers a divorce and loses his possessions, he would think that all or most women have an "entitlement mentality" instead of just his ex-wife and would be afraid to marry again instead of learning from his poor choices of who he chose to marry and learning how to seek better partners. The existence and popularity of social media these days make it easier for such loser men to share these sentiments, making it seem like a common problem.015 Reply- +1 y
I wanna be clear about party of what you said. Men spend a lifetime building or wealth and a woman can take half of it in divorce. How long do you think it takes to rebuild that? And after the fact is a man who has half what a man should going to attract a new quality woman? No.
Also you being sick size into this like itās a factor. Letās bring your body count into the talk. Howās about your weight?
I donāt hate women but I also donāt trust them. Iām 33 with a good job working tons of overtime. I have my own place. But heavy but only dad body level. I got an average 6ā dick but a skills tongue. I do lack experience and confidence with women and expect in a world of so called equality they do their party rather than wait for me the weak established man to step up. And yes I do expect my women to hold my hand in life and death because if you canāt help me I donāt need you.
Itās not the characteristics we hate but the fact you want the perfect man and ignore most others. The 80:20 rules been proven real. That means 80% of men are just straight up ignored by men.
Big question. We must improve to be worthy of you. What do you bring to the table? If I have to make more money and have all these qualities why are you the catch?
Also these healthy men are focused on their successful relationships... which are sub 50% of all marriage. And women do have an āentitlement mentalityā as you so eloquently put it. Sitting around waiting for a man to come to you already people without his problems... when you a raging psycho?
Now I support the fact men hand fallen and net to be better but to think women are not privileged in nearly everything is asinine. Save the women and children then weāll go back for the men, #killallmen, false claims of rape having risen, assaulting a woman man goes to jail assaulting a man the man goes to a hotel to cool off (Iāve seen this one in my family), Iāve been personally yelled at for holding the door open and saying excuse me at Walmart... - +1 y
@VanillaSalt: If the man suffers a divorce, then he needs to make better choices. If he married a woman that loved him for who he was and not his assets and money, along with not giving the woman a reason to divorce him, then he wouldn't have to worry about divorce. If a man decides that he wants to be abusive, an addict, a cheater, or not love his wife anymore, along with dating and marrying women (usually much younger and attractive women) because they value his assets more than him, then he deserves what he gets. I mean, for instance, if it's painfully obvious that she's only sticking around because she sees the sports car and big house, then he's a fool if he marries her. Hopefully, he could make smarter choices next time around and be a better husband.
Also, not all men that marry are wealthy, nor does divorce always end with the woman taking half. I brought dick size in it because many men complain about women not wanting little ones and they start hating women because of that. It's very common here, on Reddit, and MGTOW forums. Women don't always want "the perfect man." We just want an attractive, confident man that can support himself and isn't a complete loser that wastes his time complaining about women. All the time that these woman-hating losers spend bickering online or wherever could be spent making themselves more attractive, getting better jobs, moving out their parents' house, and working on their confidence. Also, at 33, you can't have people hold your hand through life anymore. It's time to grow up. - +1 y
@VanillaSalt: "Big question. We must improve to be worthy of you. What do you bring to the table?"
No, don't improve to be worthy of women. You improve to better the quality of your own life. A man shouldn't have to support himself, look his best, be confident, be healthy, and whatnot simply because women like these things in men. Having these qualities would just make life better for you in general. The goal is to live a better life with those characteristics and enjoy the women that come along with that newfound happiness and confidence. Sitting around and complaining about it only makes things worse. As for what I bring to the table, that depends on what the man brings to the table. If he is a loving man that cares for me and is kind and loyal, I bring love, care, kindness, loyalty, and good communication to the relationship. That's all that I need. If he doesn't bring that and doesn't try to change if I communicate it with him, then I bring my resignation letter to the table and find a better man. - +1 y
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"If I have to make more money and have all these qualities why are you the catch?"
Personally, I want a relationship so that I could start a family, have good sex, and feel protected. If you're broke, then you won't be able to support the family or pay the bills. Otherwise, I would have to hold your hand and take care of you, the kids, and the bills. I would feel like a single mother because the father is practically my son at this point. If you're unattractive, the sex would be bad because you wouldn't turn me on. If you don't have any confidence or courage, you're not likely to protect me from harm, so I won't feel safe around you. Thus, I expect my husband to be able to support himself, be attractive, good in bed, and confident. I'm not just going to marry any old weak, loser man. If a man feels that he doesn't have these characteristics, he can work to get them. As for why I'm the catch, that's not up to me to decide. Whatever the reason is he approached me is why I'm the catch.
"And women do have an āentitlement mentalityā as you so eloquently put it. Sitting around waiting for a man to come to you already people without his problems... when you a raging psycho?"
That's not an entitlement mentality. Men, for the most part, whether want a relationship or want to use you for sex. If that's the case, women have every right to ensure that the man that approaches her is good enough for the job or isn't a user. - +1 y
Sadly I agree with your view but it donāt fit todayās dating. All a a woman needs is to support me. Wanna work fine but priority is my home kids and me. I make enough to raise a kid comfortably. I donāt need your income... however I canāt accept that you so readily say āthatās all you needā to bring to the table.
Iām expected to do everything and all you have to do is be pretty and wait. While society tells me Iām evil and #killallmen is a thing. All you have to do is say I taped you and I could lose everything. All you have to do is decide Iām not good enough 10 years in and you get half my empire. I canāt even say no to strand or Iām homophobic I canāt say no to fat women because Iām fat shaming... the rules have changed. Your not a prize anymore. Now your a risk for a benefit. - +1 y
@VanillaSalt I made an account just to say you give me Kevin Samuel vibes šÆ
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@VanillaSalt: That is all I need to bring to the table in a relationship standpoint. Obviously, if I love the guy I'm dating, I would express it along with care, kindness, and loyalty. Care ensures that I support him, kindness ensures that I treat him well, and loyalty ensures that I never cheat on him. Everything else, such as being responsible and paying bills comes with being an adult, not a girlfriend or a wife. Thus, the other things come naturally. Other than good communication to let my husband know what's wrong, I don't need to bring anything else other than these things. However, I also expect my husband to bring these same things, along with basic adult responsibilities. Not every woman falsely accuse women of rape. To avoid the chances of that happening, avoid women with serious mental issues. Divorce is not that simple. A woman doesn't just take half if she decides he's not good enough. It depends on who you marry, her income level, and what assets she owns, and the reason for the divorce. When you marry, you're basically combining your assets with that person. If you have trust issues with that, then maybe marriage isn't for you. That's why it makes sense to only agree to marry someone you truly love and trust. If you're not capable of that, then that's a personal problem, not women's problem. You also have a right to refuse dating who you want, as men tend to have tons of high standards for women. However, sometimes, lowering those standards to a reasonable level could improve your chances of entering and keeping a relationship.
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lol, MOST women abandon the marriage, they file the divorce, they ruin the family. Most of the women these days can't keep a relationships. Women choose the man but Men decides the relationship, not women. Your assessment is completely opposite of the facts. The truth is most women are terrible in relationships, that's why there is so much exchange of info between men and why so many women your age are alone with their cats taking anti-depressants. They spent their best years abusing men thinking they could have it all. Then the clock ran out and now they wonder where all the good man went. Every divorce-rape is a story that every man is hearing, uncles, sons, brothers. Before long most men will not want to have kids or a wife, it's just too risky. It's not that the woman will divorce-rape you, it's that she can, and everyone knows what women are like when things go sour.
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@Abtraction: Why do you think women file for divorce? They do it because men, in some way, ruin the relationship. They cheat, they become abusive, run out on fatherhood, stop caring for their wives, become addicts, and have poor communication. Why shouldn't women end a relationship like this? Of course, this isn't to say that all men do this or that women aren't at fault at times either, but these are the main reasons divorces are filed. Many studies prove it and you can look them up to verify them. As for most women being in terrible relationships, you don't know that. We can definitely say that SOME women are in terrible relationships. If their marriages are terrible, they have a right to file for divorce. Again, why should they stay? As for women my age supposedly mostly being alone, that's not true at all. In fact, most women around my age group tend to marry. I don't know why you think 29-year-old women are depressed cat ladies. Men that know how to choose women that love them for who they are and not foolish enough to combine their assets with a woman they don't trust have no problem with marriage or having kids. If you have trust issues with women because you believe "most" of them are out to get you through the divorce system, then that's a personal problem, not women's problem. Don't blame women for your own personal problems and trust issues. I'd expect a 48-year-old man to have more wisdom than this.
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no, most wives just think the grass is greener. You can't claim it's all men's fault, 70% of women file the divorce, men avoid it because the risks are high, it's no-fault divorce in most states. which is sad because that means the wife cares more about herself than the family. Why do you think marriages are so low? births so low? Any man who has dealt with women has trust issue with women. And no not necessarily 29 year old, but probably in their 40's when they lost their chance to have a family. 29 is the time women are desperate to find any decent man to trap.
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@Abtraction: I never said that it was all men's fault. I clearly said that women are definitely to blame in some situations as well. However, studies show that marriages mostly fail based on men's actions for the reasons I listed. That's irrefutable fact. 70% of women file for divorce for a reason because, most of the time, the man does something in the relationship to warrant a divorce. If men want to reduce their chances of being divorced, they need to not cheat, be abusive, take care of their children and household, and communicate better. If men find it more "risky" to file for divorce, it's because men often make poor choices in their marriages. They often go for much younger women with little to no assets that don't truly love them for who they are, but rather for what they have.
If men were more likely to marry women with assets and high-income that truly loved them for who they are, along with not doing the things previously listed that make women file for divorce, divorce itself would be very unlikely let alone not risky. In that sense, a man's failure to determine if his wife truly loves him for him and to marry a woman with assets is his own personal problem, not women's problem. If you have a personal problem, don't waste your time on a website complaining about it. Go solve it so you can have a happier life. If you meant a woman in her 40s, I don't know why you assumed that I'm "cat lady" age then. Maybe you misread my age. I'm 29 and I'm in a great relationship with a great guy. If our relationship ended for whatever unfortunate reason, I would have no problem finding another man. I'm not desperate, nor do I waste my life blaming men for my own personal problems. Not all women my age intend to "trap" men. If you believe that, that's a personal problem. - +1 y
Iām curious what you think would happen if women stopped giving out sex. Like they completely refused to have sex with women. How do you think that would affect society, women, men, relationships, etc. do you think men would approach women for relationships without the possibility of sex?
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@VanillaSalt: Rape rates would drastically increase.
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Real talk for a minute. Do you think men should strive to be desirable for women and that women should strive to be desirable to men?
Because this new class of woman... you can have an I have no interest and men are checking out. This I hate all men movement is a slap in the face of men like me that spent our lives treating women with kindness and respect. If I can go from that to ah fuck women in a few years what will happen to other men that actually donāt care about women? All this culture does it extends the area and difference between the sexes. It makes men despise women and not only not protect them but hurt them. Was that so called 0.30 on the $ worth it? Was there not a better way to fight for women then say #killallmen and to attack men yet to be proven guilty?
Right now a woman word absolutely means more than a manās. How can we have an equal never mind healthy relationship with that kinda disparity? - +1 y
Iām also curious how women would respond if we took away the female equivalent to sex... I don't know if this would be positive attention or relationships but... how do you think they would respond. In think they would literally get emotional x100v what they are now.
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI donāt really see much personally... if I do itās usually relatively minor stuff, guys just being guys and thatās about it. Guys being jealous of female privileges, commenting on womenās looks (both positively or negatively, which I donāt like)... I try to stay away from those conversations.
I think women are ultimately free to do what they want. Itās disappointing when a womanās values donāt align with your own, but such is life. Thatās really the majority of our problems these days isnāt it? Someone doesnāt agree with you on XYZ issue... and instead of being hurt, feeling attacked, or taking it personally, we really just need to accept that people are different and move on.
I think it does go both ways though, a lot of times men can be douchebags and say or even do awful stuff, but I donāt condone that, and think that men can do a much better job, but it also applies to women as well. Donāt be toxic, whether youāre male OR female.
Ultimately we are in control of what we do and say, so be positive and instead of hating on others and projecting negativity, do the opposite. Something as simple as what I said before, instead of commenting negatively on someoneās looks (which they canāt control) and it comes up in conversation, whatās wrong with simply just saying that theyāre ānot your type?ā Saying someone is ugly is offensive not only to them, but to anyone that might actually fancy that person too.
In short, donāt be a d*ck lol.00 ReplyIt's not about hate towards women. It's about the advantages women have in society such as a divorce. In a divorce, the law favors women, which isn't fair. Most of the time women will get child custody, even if she is abusive towards their children. Women are more likely to abuse their own children than men. And don't forget that women will get 50% of your assets (money, house (es) car (s), stocks etc). WHat's in it for men to get hitched? So, it's not always fair when it comes to laws.
Second, I think feminism is also a fair share in this situation. Women want to be treated equal, that's fine. But a lot of women want to be treated equal when it's in their advantage/favor, and if it's not, they don't want to be treated as an equal.
So, basically, it's a woman's attitude/behavior that men hate. Women want to be treated equal, but only if it's in their advantage. A lot of women don't take responsibility, it's all about them and if you don't listen or cooperate, you'll pay for it by aaccusing you from domestic abuse or something else. She will make your life a living hell. Men are afraid of false accusations.
I'm not saying all women are like that, but men become more cautious when it comes to women and dating/relationships/marriages.00 Reply
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yThere aren't. Most of that hate is directed towards feminism which shaped the culture to do nothing but destroy the relationship between men and women.
It instills paranoia in women that no matter what they do, men will be better than them and will do anything to harm them every step of the way. However, they also fool women into thinking that they have no social power but it turns out that they have enough social power to ruin someone's life by pointing the finger and making up a crime that they did. Metoo only sought to expand that power to actually imprison someone by the testimony of a woman alone.
It instills paranoia in men that they could become victims of this obvious abuse of power at any moment and ruin everything they have spent their life trying to build because they literally think all men are rapists or at least trying to commit sexual crimes because they are men. They now don't want to marry because a divorce can happen for no reason whatsoever and the man will likely pay a heavy price for it.00 ReplyI don't think women are hated so much as avoided. Men have been the boogeyman, we have "toxic masculinity" don't have our own bathroom anymore at most colleges, but women get to keep theirs. Really it's a simple reaction.
We stopped giving a shit. It isn't hate, it's a question. What's in it for me?
Answer that with something positive, good things happen, neutral or negative, well, we've achieved equality, now women are treated like men with tits, and don't like it.
Personally I limit that exclusively to young women, I still respect my elders and hold open the door for old ladies, hell, a lot of them have snacks in those gigantic purses. That diabetic cookie might taste like crap, but the thoughtfulness is so very sweet :)22 ReplyAre you kidding or are you seriously this much of a male feminist? If you're not joking, then it's wokeness + feminism + MeToo bullshit + OnlyFans and simp culture. But it's not directed "at women," only narcissistic first-world bitches, which seem to be growing by the numbers every day.
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+1 yHave you seen channels like Better Bachelor on YouTube? MGTOWs found a voice in him. I've never seen a larger pile of embittered men, seeking revenge on the women who slighted them.
What a lot of men need to understand, is that it doesn't matter if your ex-wife were a bitch or not.
The real enemy, are the corrupt criminal organizations calling themselves "family courts," that make decisions based on heresies invented by sufferers of Kate Millet Disease. Which want to destroy families for fun and profit, and found that pitting men and women against each other - and destroying men first -is most profitable.13 Reply- +1 y
Fucking accurate
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@VanillaSalt : Dude, I woke up today to some news blip about devil worshipers proselytizing youth who were questioning sexuality. Not evangelizing, proselytizing. As in, being made to feel like if they feel even the tiniest bit gay, they are obligated to give their souls to Satan, knowingly. And ABC was celebrating this!
Every day I wake up, it's like we're in the world's largest mental asylum! - +1 y
Better bachelor has good points wrapped within a web of hatred and disgust. I donāt like his attitude but I agree with his critique. The systems broken in favor of women in every single way. That being said women are being manipulated by the situation government and these idiots in power have created... Arguing against our foundations the stupidest thing we could be doing...
Maybe you need to cut back on the "Heavy Smoking" as see reality. I think women are wonderful, and I have many women, as close friends!
I think with the different HUGE companies being more transparent, and more women speaking up about being sexually abused, that things are better now, than ever.
I can only speak from my experience, and talking with my friends, and it just seems things are better now, than 20 years ago!
Of course, there is still a LONG way to go to real equality.
Obviously some TROLLS and Assbags on here need to get with the times, and stop being degrading pricks!03 Reply- +1 y
@t-8900 Yeah, and those Narcissistic ones are the ones causing the problems and hate!
Too many men seem to think women are somehow 'inferior' and should be 'submissive'. BULLSHIT!!
I don't care about MGTOW idiots, and their demented ideas, or the Feminists, that cannot accept the EQUALITY of the genders. - +1 y
there is a reason that so many women go for the bad boys at a young age. They do crave to be dominated, that's just a face. Men do dominate, that's what we do. We didn't just randomly decide one day to create wars and conquests. That shit was built into us. Go look at our closest living relatives, the Chimp. And you will learn the truth. The idea of equality of the genders is less than 100 years old and it sprouted up during peace time when people didn't have a conflict/struggle against nature. That's when women can shine, when there is no threats. But soon as one comes around men are basically the only hope. There are scenarios even recently where all women groups vs all men groups ended in complete disaster for women where men had zero issues. A boys (ages 14-15) soccer team beat a professional all women's team with ease. Equality doesn't exist, and it never will. Some people will always accomplish more than others, will look better than others, be more fit than others, be smarter than others, be faster than others, be richer than others, etc, etc. I didn't make the rules, don't shoot the messenger. It's not like I like this fact either. But I just learned to accept it for what it is.
+1 yJust posted an opinion on a girl's post: Why do some men age worse than others? Why do some men go bald? I wish every man aged like Paul Rudd 😒."
I said "And I wish all women wouldn't get fat, get cellulite or saggy tits. See my point?" My point was that you can't help genetics and it's not cool to hate on anyone for factors out of their control.
Wanna know how she responded? "You're just mad you're gonna be bald".
Sadly she represents a large population of women in this generation.
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+1 yI donāt know 🤷āāļø
Maybe because of peopleās that like to do immature things like playing games, ghosting etc... To be honest thereās not only womenās fault here, mens have theyāre own fault as well, but we need to come down to the reality and think on why we are on this earth. We are humans, we need to be good with each other, we need to be happy together, have a family / kids and other things that we have been created to do. Slowly but surely I have the feeling that the humanity is lost in this days, peopleās are to bad to each other, they are more interested in how much money x and y has made, they want to showing off and other things that social media, televisions promote.00 ReplyThey came at all of us as if we were personally to blame for why our world is the way it is. As if we personally were the reason why women aren't treated equally to men. It's because they forced us into a world where we have to watch our step and every word we utter for fear that 100 women would jump out screaming "rapist," "sexist," or any other number of horrible phrases at us. It's because they came at us whether we were guilty or not. So now we're pissed, given the mindset of "you want to demonize me, I give you Satan himself." It's a mindset I once held, and I can assure you it was not good for my mental health or the health and safety of anyone who was around me.
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Lmao I give you Satan himself! You win the gold!
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Itās funny because I understand itās not just how it sounds... it also true.
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+1 yI don't see it as just women. It seems like hate is everywhere and about everything any more.
Schools, buildings, parks, sports teams, etc having name changes because the current name offends a petty few! BLM which I supported in the beginning has long lost what it was to represent. It just seems like people hate anyone who isn't like them or for things done hundreds of years ago and that is total ignorance. Years down the road what we are doing today will be hated by them.31 Reply- +1 y
Our culture has been built on pity, shame, begging, actors, and false pride.
In other words, on vices instead of virtues. All these justice warriors are full of vices
+1 yThere are a lot of women who know that they can destroy a man with false claims and accusations. All they have to do is cry wolf online and everyone automatically will run and support her instead of asking questions. I've seen this happen when a woman had gotten angry about a guy that broke up with her. She made false claims to the cops and online and the guy's life was destroyed for just simply not wanting be with her. The worst part is she didn't get in any trouble for filing a false report with the cops which is illegal.
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+1 yModern feminism fails on many levels to remove sexism and oddly enough supports it.
I'm all for about equality.
For modern feminists, it's not about equality anymore it's all about superiority.
The only thing worse than a double standard is some one to stupid to see a double standard.
I tried to post some examples but the letter limit...
"30 ReplyWhat mythic world do you live in? 😂😂😂.. I don't remember "Women are trash" being a socially acceptable phrase people can use.. Or mugs saying "Female tears" being sold with people taking pictures of themselves drinking out of it.. Or people saying that they need to "teach women how not to be horrible people".. I don't see any "believeallmen hashtags around".. You just seem like some female troll rolling in feminist victimization indoctrination..
10 Reply597 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Social media has destroyed a lot of things and most girls love social media and drama , so most girls today arenāt faithful and loyal Cuz they allow social media to take over their brains , they cheat left and right and and consider all men to be fuck boys , Me personally loves girls and donāt let social media effect the way I look at them and treat them cuz not everyone is glued to their damn phones
10 ReplyIs this another Chinese funded racism towards Blacks, Native Americans, Hispanics, Asian Hate, women hate blame Whitie because your a soft ass bitch with a small pecker sort of thing where you pay BLM/ANTIFA members to beat up Jews, Asians, Women, etc. and then scream White supremacy?
10 ReplyBecause the family courts are against men and the right of men to be active in a child's life. Because during divorce women take half a man's income away. and because the #metoo movement never included men who were abusive or victimized. Made men the enemy.
10 ReplyI don't hate women. I just wouldn't let one in my house, or alone at the office. It's too easy to be blamed for hurting them if not in plain sight. Safer than sorry. Not until we all wear body cams, and they can stick up in court. So no more dating or marriage. That's for the simps that need a learning opportunity.
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No woman would want to be in your house or alone with you. Bitter old man, yeah youāre single alright. Because no one wants you. At least simps get laid š¤”š¤”
Where is that, I'd never felt men showing us much hate at all, while we and especially the society show a lot hate on men. Really I think we women are beginning to build up a kind of victim picture , that is very false
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Itās not false but you are building a victim reality as a gender. I mean I see it and I donāt trust women. So much out there about men being ringed by malicious women without consequences.
Think about something. Whoās given priority is most cases? 80% of commercials are geared towards women. Diamonds are forever. Get your women the gift that keeps on giving. Studied show women control 80% of house hold finances. Women wait while men have to pursue them. Men have to be established and very well off to have significant success in dating today but women only have to have tits and ass... I blame men for low standards for that one. Man gets called out for not rescuing women getting beat up not the other way. Save the women and children first. Female job priority placement. Womenās shelters. Womenās rights. #believealleomen #killallmen... menās abortion rights, child custody rights, alimony, child support, Men are not precious in this world. And many men will look at the group that gets all this and think... why not me? - +1 y
@VanillaSalt lol sexist trash
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Just gonna follow me around and call me sexist?
That's what I'm wondering too!
Men think it's okay to beat them, rape them, embarrass them, upload nudes of them etc.
And they talk badly about women all the time.
Of course there are exceptions but most of men hate women even if they say they don't.
Just talk to them about rape and you'll hear "she wore a mini dress/skirt, shorts".
They disgust me03 Reply- +1 y
We say that because you're raping our eyes with something we didn't to ask to see. A lot of us are constantly on the verge of sex addiction and you're out there exploiting it
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"most of men hate women even if they say they don't."
There are so many people and groups that use this logic.
"All white men are racist even if they aren't aware they are."
"All people who support Donald Trump are racist even if they aren't aware of it."
"Most men are rapists even if they don't think they are."
Etc.
+1 yWhere exactly is this woman hate? Everytime I turn around, somebody is talking about how we need to empower women and that men are trash. These types of messages are promoted in the youtube/social media algorithms. The judicial courts are almost completely on women's side. Women are pretty much believed until proven guilty with undeniable evidence. Women today are pampered by society.
10 Reply1K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. I thankfully never lived in any environment (Germany, poor east), where one gender or group attacks the opposite sex. I prefer to keep it that way. Where I lived and live both men and women coexist.
The only gender wars I see going on is literally exclusively only on the internet. I definitely wouldn't want to be one of them.
Some of them got burned, some to medium rare, some over well done and then lash out to the opposite sex as if all of them are evil.12 Reply- +1 y
Internet and academia. Going to school for chemistry one of my required courses was women's and gender studies. Puff course, easy pass, but oh boy, there was only one woman in that class I got along with, everyone else had the idea that men needed to be brought down to elevate women. Next visit back there were no more men's rooms, unisex and women's. So they got some progress towards that idea.
Yeah, it is mostly online, but that's mirrored in the quasi-real world of academics too. - +1 y
@razelove
Schools. Pfft. I mean those buildings are designed to brainwash students to fit the agenda of the ruling class. I personally remember hearing propaganda in the university I was studying in. First it was "this country is rich and has enemies, that want to take it from us", then it was "the army exists to turn boys into men" and then it was "creating a family, having kids and sending the providing father into poverty is normal". Honestly I am not sure if I should feel bad for the students, who fall for this propaganda but a few students were firm on being childfree.
+1 yThe same reason jews became hated.
They took while adding nothing.
They became arrogant in foreign lands.
They robbed culture and changed it to their desires.
They stomped any other opinions out as antisemitic.
Eventually, gradually, people hated them.10 Reply
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yWell nothing much shocking. Even women hate women now. Transgender girls too. One such M toF transgender here asked me if i would rather get raped and be served justice or rather be raped and laughed at. She said i should be glad for being a woman since it's alright if i get raped cause the 2nd one happens to men. Smh
00 ReplyI don't hate women, but modern feminism definitely makes them look bad. When feminism was created it was necessary, women ABSOLUTELY deserve equal rights; however modern day feminism wants to have total equality while still having female privilege (Men giving up their seats to women/men paying for everything/women not having to apply to be drafted/etc.)
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+1 yWhat are you classifying as hate? Indifference? False accusations against men (boys too), demonification and vilification of men. Laws against men, #MeToo #AllMenRape #KillAllMen, men viewed as predators, crapped on in courts, especially family and criminal courts, society and entertainment against men. Gee, I have no clue how to answer your question. please will somebody cue me in.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 ySociety we live in combined with how a lot of guys have treated them have turned them into what we have today, which often isn't good. How ghosting etc has become "normal" and "accepted" as "ok" behavior and how to treat another human being is mind blowing! And in my opinion, women get even worse than guys do when it comes to that behavior. Example when ghosting, women will often say "I don't owe him an explanation", but if he did it to her, does the same apply? Hell no!
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Opinion Owner+1 yThere's just no basic respect for anyone anymore it seems with a lot of people.
nah... men in the real world don't hate women. its just that misogynists know it socially unacceptable to spew their hatred of women out in public so they resort to doing it online where they can hide behind their computer monitors anonymously
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In other words you single moms have trained armies of simps to protect you
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yBecause of this... Is it right to force boys to apologise for their gender?
And soooooo much more just like it.00 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yProbably because us guys or men are just never taught how to interact or attract women in our teens or formative years like we used to, sometimes makes me wonder how us guys were supposed to learn the social dynamics or social skills required for getting a girlfriend or attracting women before the dating coach industry existed or exploded
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Lao you know your points in point when the feminists donate a perfectly viable possibility.
I believe this is part of it. But then some stayed by not trying, not understanding, or just not caring. Some men are lazy and donāt wanna change. These are the low quality men that should just remain low quality. The ones that donāt understand whatās expected of them because they werenāt taught are trying but fail over and over until... they either fall into the idc crowd or give up and become the I donāt want to change crowd. Then you have the I donāt care crowd. These are the resentful people and the people that have just said fuck it. Marriages a bad deal anyway. Which for men it generally is.
that's weird, there is no hate whatsoever towards women nowadays or she will sue for rape and you will be jailed for it. there is however a lot of hate towards men, women from the past like 70s were the best these days you have female screw ups who think they own the world and can live independently till they hit the old age and turn into a plastic factory just attract and trap a young boy. It's awful these days, i wish i could time travel go in past and warn them about giving women rights.
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+1 yI think between certain men and women there is a mutual hatred, which makes it sort of perpetual. Personally, I don't hate anyone... I don't want to be a part of that cycle.
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+1 yWhy is there so much hate towards men these days?
Perhaps it's the same answer, no?41 Reply- +1 y
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yNot all man only the man born in the early 1990's , Why because millennial man are spoiled little boys especially man born in 1992 . Other man born in 1970's and 1980's turn out to be good loving caring partners.
12 Reply552 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Blame feminism.
It went from equal rights for men and women.
To women needs more, screw the evil men. Gimme gimme gimme.20 Reply
+1 yWell to be fair women started it they have been hating men waay longer guys are just kinda pushing back now but we donāt hate women and I donāt wanna believe they hate us we are just night and day never really can understand each other
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yFailure of majority of men with women.
Men not getting sex, and the virginity is being pushed farther in case of men but opposite in case of women.
Social Media tells men they have to be tall, handsome - things which aren't in anybodys control so men just give up putting effort into their life, which will actually attract women but who can fight against the social media?02 Reply- +1 y
you're right. Total reversal of the past. men are virgins and women are sluts, because they sought equality through revenge and reversal
Opinion Owner+1 y@Unbeatable majority of men aren't getting laid. Minority, very small percentage of men are getting laid - thanks to dating apps algorithms.
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u +1 yIt is a natural and direct consequence of the actions of hostile feminists and the PC/SJW/cancel culture/woke crowd.
00 Reply There isn't.
What you're seeing is isolated incidents being blow out of proportion to make you think a non-issue is a serious problem.00 Reply- 325 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic.
+1 yTheir isn't. People are just calling out bad women because for decades no one wanted to do that. Its not against all women, its against BAD women.
00 Reply I haven't really seen much hatred towards women, honestly. There's a nasty amount of it on this website, but women are doing pretty darn well these days.
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+1 yIs there? All I ever hear is men this, men that, white men are to blame, all men are evil etc. The only thing I hear about females is they are gold diggers. So I don't think women get much hate except by incels.
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I don't know if incels deep down really "hate" women either. Incel is basically about men who are upset that they desire a relationship with a woman, but for whatever reason seemingly unable to obtain it.
602 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. There isn't. Get off your high horse.
It's Blacks and Asians that are being subjected to unnecessary hate for no good reason.01 Reply- +1 y
You must not be from the US then, because it's whites here that are being discriminated against and hated. The lying media gives the left their marching orders and there they go hating whites.
3K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. These days? It's better than it ever was. In general, women around the world are freer than they ever were.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yThereās always been but since womenās rights have increased, men have pushed back. Iāve seen comments on videos saying, āif a woman wants to hit a man then she should be hit back by a man even knocked out because women want equal rights.ā Itās sickening because a single blow from a man can kill a woman versus when a woman hits a man itās usually not very powerful. No one should hit anyone though.
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A woman hitting a man is no different than a man hitting a trained MMA fighter. If a man walked up to an MMA fighter took a swing and the MMA fighter knocked him out, none of us would be saying, "Oh you can't do that to him, he's weak and less trained than you." No, we would all collectively laugh our assess off at him for doing something that stupid. The same goes to women. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
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You seem to have rights confused with passes and privileges, which is what women have. Think men can't spot those privileges? Seems you under estimated men, boys too.
Toxicity because of third wave feminism? Women issues being highlighted too much maybe?
10 Reply2.3K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. How so? I mean whenever you have a movement like metoo there's always going to be a segment of the population that pushes back. But beyond that i don't get what you mean specifically.
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+1 ySo that pathetic morons like you can get some pity sex.
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+1 yNot feeling the hate😂maybe because i am busy binge watching manual ferrara
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+1 ySame reason why there is so much hate towards men these days.
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Men and women are not the same
how is the same reason? - +1 y
Because they are equal. And it's not to be confused with similarity
Anonymous(36-45)+1 ySame reason there is so much hate toward straight white men. Quite literally if you are straight, white, and male, according to the left, you're literally Hitler.
20 ReplyThe same reason why some women hate men so much, circulation of outdated information.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI could say why is there so much hate towards Muslims, Jews, Asians, Blacks, people who support socialism, people who are skinny, people who are fat, the list goes on... hate is everywhere, itās disgusting.
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Opinion Owner+1 yTo the idiot who disliked my comment you legit are blind and stupid if you donāt understand the context of my comment, it relates to everyone including women.
+1 yWhat world do you live in? Women are adored by society and thereās always 1000 men lined up to defend any woman in the hopes that it gets them laid.
10 Reply463 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Honestly men and women are just spiteful, angry, upset, lazy to some extent, hurt that they aren't in a relationship
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yMen are just starting to return what feminism has been giving them for decades.
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