I am not asking this just because. This literally happened in a school where boys as young as 12 had to stand up and say sorry to their female peers for something they never did and most likely will never do.
This is the full statement given by Brauer College principal Jane Boyle:
"Schools play an important role in the promotion of safety and respect of all students, and discussions in schools around respect towards girls and women are a key part of this vital work.
This week, at a whole school assembly, Brauer College discussed the topic of respect for woman and the importance of bystander behaviour and speaking up to report incidents of inappropriate behaviour.
The assembly included the screening of a video message by Brisbane Boys' College Captain Mason Black about being proactive in stopping incidents of sexual assault and harassment.
As part of this discussion boys were asked to stand as a symbolic gesture of apology for the behaviours of their gender that have hurt or offended girls and women.
In retrospect, while well-intended, we recognise that this part of the assembly was inappropriate. Today, the school is contacting parents to explain the reasons behind the assembly and to ensure that any student who requires support is aware that it is available.”
TLDR: The principal honestly believes that humiliating boys, by publicly subjecting them to the proposition of being outed as rapists, is "for the greater good"; apparently, it’s not enough to help men understand consent. No, we have to completely disenfranchise them from entertaining the very thought of sexual activity in the first place—on the off-chance some of them might engage in problematic behavior in the future. “Boys still desire girls”, you might say. Not when they have been forced to rebuke themselves because they are men and "all men are monsters."
This "promote self-loathing of men to decrease violence against women" logic is very Minority Report-esque and it’s going to backfire in an uncountable number of ways, but perhaps that is the goal. Why spent time and money entertaining the masses with bread and circus when you simply breed resentment among them? Far cheaper and more efficient.
I'm truly baffled that this neofeminism movement has been allowed to go so far. The feminist movement was fine back in the day when women were fighting to work like men for equal wages. They have that now. The only reason there's still a difference in wages in corporate positions is because men IN GENERAL are biologically more dominant, confident and assertive than females, making them more likely to ask and get raises and promotions.
And then let's not forget to mention that all men suffer consequences and restrictions for the actions of the minority that rape women. Nowadays females have a stronger voice than men in court and the media.
Men are emasculated nowadays and all our primal desires are limited. I find it interesting that most girls want a guy to take charge in bed anf like it when they're aggressive, but we're taught to never treat girls like that. And girls can easily turn that into a rape case in court making men more uneasy about loosening up in bed.
And then there's the fact that men are no longer the providers. It used to be hunters, gatherers and nurterers. Nowadays, anyone can provide and men don't see their role as easily as back in the day. Women have fought for equality and yet still want a man to pay their meals in dating and there are many girls that will not will not date a guy that makes less than their income.
Why can't we just accept that men are physically stronger IN GENERAL and girls should be careful for the minority which have bad intentions towards them?
“men IN GENERAL are biologically more dominant, confident and assertive than females”
Not true, only one thing you said was true and it was that men are physically stronger than girls. But that’s obvious.
That being said, nobody should feel uncomfortable in their own skin walking down the street. Men just need to do better. They don’t have anyone else to blame but themselves. Women didn’t invent rape.
Men are emasculated nowadays and all our primal desires are limited. Women shouldn’t be expected to control themselves if men can’t do the same. That’s not a lot to ask for. Both should be held to the same degree.
Also, when you say men are no longer providers. Not true at all. Everyone has a role to play in modern society, I wouldn’t restrict everything to social constructs like gender roles.
@Ninjazzed I don’t know either women aren’t naturally very assertive or they lose that at some point because I can confidently say that in my experience I’ve never met a genuinely assertive woman unless they were forced to be in that position like my mom but even she isn’t very assertive now that I’m older. Of course this is just my experience. Maybe they just ignore their assertiveness for some reason.
@Ninjazzed Yup I knew there would be some triggered females downvoting and commenting negatively on this.
I stick to what I said. Men ARE GENERALLY more dominant, confident and assertive than females. There are many studies that show this. You can research it yourself. I'm not gonna link a bunch of articles I've already read. If you just use basic observational skills, you'll see that men are generally the more confident, dominant and assertive ones.
I don't understand why women are so offended that they're different than men and not in a negative way. Both genders have their strengths and weaknesses. Again... IN GENERAL. There are many males with feminine energy and many females with masculine energy, but the fact is there are more masculine males than masculine females and more feminine females than feminine males.
Yep, because you’re letting your delusional bias dictate your “logic” because of what YOU are personally accustomed to. Your experience with women is different with others. Men and women are on two completely different scales but, your view is that women can’t be assertive, back then this was the case due to being oppressed in the workplace and having assigned gendered roles that didn’t allow them to be confident in themselves. Your ignorance is self-evident.
Being assertive or confident isn’t a masculine trait, it isn’t exclusively linked to men. Just like being submissive isn’t an entirely female trait. You’re generalizing here which makes you appear very ignorant and narrow-minded.
My delusional bias? It’s my own experience how is that an appeal to logic😂 and I never said they Can’t I said I’ve never seen one straight up assert herself. And I’m not generalizing because I said no woman in my experience. I never said all women please come correct next time
So your against gender roles ninja? Then where do you stand on alimony. Family court. Women in the draft. Women arrested for child molestation. Women suffering jail time for simple offenses. Women working very physically demanding jobs. Dangerous jobs. Where are you with man hating. #killallmen. What about men choosing not to defend women getting their ass beat in the streets by a man?
Actually I don’t care where YOU stand because all you Internet women say “I’m different” or “I would” but when it comes time to do so why are we still alone? When a man loses everything to an ex. And yes he can lose everything if he can’t maintain his bills if she takes half. Let’s actually have this inequality talk where women are so entitled they simply exist and don’t have to be productive the first 30 years because they have a pretty face or nice ass. Can’t discuss fat women it’s rude but fat men are disgusting? In the uk it can be a hate crime if a woman don’t like being asked out. Here in the states women complain about men not being men and asking them out them with the same breath complain when men who aren’t worthy of them ask. Truly an equal world. Check your female privilege.
@Ninjazzed I can't take you seriously because not only can you not read, you clearly haven't done any research on the matter.
I emphasized and stated again and again that not EVERY female is less dominant, confident, and assertive than males. And there are males that are submissive, but much less than females. Studies HAVE proven that there are masculine traits and feminine traits. The fact that you spout your nonsense without any knowledge on the matter shows that you're the one that's ignorant and narrow minded. All you can do is insult and say "you're ignorant". It's pretty pathetic.
Seriously? Things are getting ridiculous. What happened to being individuals? I'm hated by the majority of men because I have a vagina because of this bullshit. Both females and males are destroying each other. I'm honestly surprised there are still relationships happening. But tbh real relationships are on the decline so who knows. I LOVE the male gender. Why the fuck would I want them to apologize for being something I want and need? People are bogus. Damn.. starting it this young? I'm honestly concerned of what the implications will be for future generations. I will honestly say that women started this gender hating bullshit and have taken it further than men have. But I already see that changing, the men are going to be at their level soon enough. Oppression doesn't fix oppression.
Thst is the most intelligent thing I have read in a long time. And just for the record, I don't believe anything close to the majority of men hate women. That is the danger of 24 hour news and social media. We are bombarded by the worst of humanity and angry adolescent rants. Like you, I worry that all of the negativity and hate is self-reinforcing.
That is very true. There are probably less men than I think. But you're right it's hard to determine especially when I see some of the comments on GaG from men and women. I just get this feeling that it's altering most of the men's perspectives about women. Definitely self-reinforcing.
All of the men I know are respectful and love thier wives, girlfriend, mothers, sisters, and daughters. But we're old. :) I have two daughters and a son. I planned to raise my son to to be kind, respectful to everyone. I didn't have to. It's an essential part of his nature that I encourage. I couldn't be more proud of my little man or my daughters. God help the man who is cruel to his sisters. That is the proper use of masculinity.
Probably not hated, no. But not seen as an individual. Only how most men perceive women as a whole. Everything I say or do is filtered through that perception. And for the majority that I've noticed and heard it isn't in the best way.
we really are. I have some paper bags. I can cut us out some eye holes and pass one over to you too. I'm so embarrassed by what our society has become!
@crazyish To assure you , VERY FEW men genuinely hate women , proportionately it is more the other way round , I have had the misfortune to encounter many women with a hatred of men purely because they contain Y chromosomes , and this same , creeping , insidious , indoctrination is often the root cause , this is all by design , toxic social engineering , funded by those REALLY in power. I will say more men have a distrust & wariness of women now , due to potential negative legal & social consequences they may face.
@FatherJack Yes I've seen that men are more cautious. It's definitely going to be interesting to see how most women will react to that fact when it starts happening more. But now I've also encountered men that ignore my own views and assume anything I say positive about women as feminism. Both genders are only enforcing a bigger rift. I honestly have good reason to be cautious of men from personal experiences but I've never ever let those individuals or instances control my views about men as a whole. Or change my behavior towards them. I just get frustrated because most men are doing that based merely on the possibilities of something happening. I guess I just wish at least some of us women were given the benefit of the doubt. But I do get it. Life is unfair and I can't control other's.
Implying anything they did would suggest they something wrong. But what is something specifically they should genuinely apologize for? Your answer (give it genuinely or leave me alone), that's very vague and it's assuming they have something to genuinely apologize for. Right?
Not even remotely right to do! That's like forcing all women to apologize for being women and rape victims. As for the the whole, "Toxic Masculinity," thing, it is rare. Most people forget that its has yet to be a century since women truly became equals here in the US, and there are still older generations from before such movements that are running things. You have to be patient, once they die out naturally, most of the problems will disappear. Also, respect is EARNED not given, taken, nor commanded. If women want respect, they should do something to earn it, not wag their tags and claim to be the victims. Not all women are [insert preferred expletive] but some are, just like all men aren't [insert preferred expletive] but some are. I will not apologize for my biology, which no one chooses by the way! Gender is not assigned, it is observed, identity is up to the individual, and yes, they are, by very definition, different. I'm biologically male, and identify as one. Some people don't identify with their biology due to certain reasons, such as, but not limited to, damage to their DNA (proven in 2016), mental illness, abuse and other trauma, the environment they grew up in, manipulated by others, have no sense of self, to be political or gain political favor, or to be trendy. Men are not the sole cause of problems women face, in fact far from it in this modern age. Women are their own worst enemies, the undermine each other and sabotage themselves for one reason or another. Just because you called ugly once, doesn't mean you are, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I have female friends who have no faith in themselves, some for no reason at all. Ignore society and it's norms, they aren't laws, and ignore anyone who says you'll never be worth it, only listen to friends and family if the warn you, they know you and how you react, so the may just be trying to save you some trouble. You are not completely useless nor worthless, if nothing else you can always be the friend who listens. But change, though inevitable, takes time. Blaming the other sex for your problems is what children do, mature adults give and take credit, and blame for that matter, where it is due. It takes two to tango, you can't have a relationship of one, multiple personalities don't count. If boys have to apologize for something they can't control, then being equals, girls should have to do the same.
Yeah, I totally agree with the majority that said a nay on this one. There does need to be more constructive conversations with young boys on this, to help them understand the impact and reality of how actions like that can affect a woman. But also in a way that doesn't drive a population of growing young men who probably already hate themselves because of everything that's happened in human history, further into the ground in shame.
Something like this I don't think has a place in the school system. The way it was approached seemed inappropriate and more along the lines of causing them to feel ashamed about something they most likely had no part in considering their age.
That being said, I attended a workshop a while ago with men and women about positive male and female connection. And during that process there was a point where the men and women took turns sitting on the ground in a circle while the other group stood up in a circle around them, holding hands. When it was the male's turn we stood in apology on behalf of all the things any man may have done to hurt them in their lives. And that we would stand on working on ourselves to be better, kinder and to do our best to be more stable, dependable men for the women in our lives. And then we went in a circle and each said one thing that we were sorry for and one thing needed to work on as a person. And then the women took their turn to say anything they felt in response when they stood up. It was interesting because we were all a little bit emotional by this stage, and the responses were quite genuine and varied. Some of the women seemed very hurt, some of the women extended compassion and gratitude for hearing a group of men say those things. Like I said, the reactions were really quite varied and in all it felt like a humbling process to be a part of, in a good way.
But yeah, there's a difference between a group of grown men choosing to take part in something like that and a hall full of young boys just learning what it means to be male.
This happen in some dopy Australian school, and there has been so much backlash that the school apologized.
Personally, the school should be burnt to ground and forced every teacher to rebuild over that global dumb decesion. There should be far harsher consequences.
Forcing young boys who didn't understand, confused and angered for the pleasure of these radicalized feminist is not only appalling, it turns out a few of the girls in the class were molested and began to cry and needed counseling because they mistook what was going on, and felt like their own classmates were going to hurt them again.
Acoording to what I know many children arrived home ashamed of being boys because they were inherently evil and predators. They will grow afraid of being men.
If this happened to my son, I would lose my shit. I would have a hard time not giving everyone in that school a reason to hate males more.
This type of activity is doing nothing but reinforcing a negative perspective against females in the minds of young boys along with eroding the idea of what a true apology should be.
I mean, if males are already the bad guys, because they're born into it, and are required to apologize for each other, why would they want to respect females when they grow up?
This is dangerously synonymous with the prejudice many have experienced in history simply because they're born black/Hispanic/Asian.. except now they're born male.
I wouldn't be surprised if 15/20 years from now the complaints from women are:
- I can't find a worthy guy - My man doesn't want to work for his family - Can't find someone that doesn't want to do anything but play games - can't find a man that isn't too weak
This is ludicrous. As a guy, I've been harassed by girls a lot in school, and every time I tell them to shut up, they whine to the teachers and say some deplorable shit about me, like I told them they were some various slur or was being sexist. And guess what, now they're the most popular kids in my whole school. It's BS. A lot of girls, however, are very kind, and the majority are. Just because of gender doesn't mean one is made up of horrible people. It's very painful sometimes to hear on the news that a female had been sexually attacked, but it happens to boys too. Not as often, but it happens. A friend had been sexually assaulted last year, and he's trying to cope still. TL/DR, I can't believe that girls are outright bullying guys, and vice versa.
Okay I'm a feminist but this is extreme, women are more in danger around men than the opposite, but men kill each other much more than they kill women, it's not a gender thing it's a been doing this for thousands of years thing, and I honestly think boys go through more challenges than girls (on average) in their lifetime, so this is stupid, it went from Equality and giving us equal opportunity and protection to just hate and making men feminine and guilty
Sooo... why do you support a movement that "went from Equality and giving women equal opportunity and protection to just hate and making men feel guilty". Why do you support that?
@DudeDiligence It's from an ideology perspective than from a what they're doing now perspective, like if you asked me would you rather not have the vote nor equal opportunity nor protective law or on the other hand have all lf those would you have them? That's all I mean when I say it which is what we wanted, at first at least, I think we have that now so all of these problems are just petty and lack understanding of human nature
Supporting feminism today supports what feminism is doing today. I support gender equality and fairness, but I would never call myself a feminist because I couldn't sleep at night knowing I was supporting what feminism is doing now.
It's totally wrong. It's absurd. Boys should never apologize for the behavior of other males. Just coz he's a male too.
If that's the case, the same school should be making 12 year old girls apologize for Aileen Wuornos or Joanna Dennehy.
It's just so ridicolus and unfair to the kids. There's no way my son would be made to stand up and apologize to women for his gender. That will cause young boys to grow up feeling ashamed and guilty for being a male
"That will cause young boys to grow up feeling ashamed and guilty for being a male" according to the article some of them did get home feeling that. And there lies the problem.
Boys don't need to apologise for being a gender. But they do have to learn not to be a bystander and in that way sort of "help" the bad people.
All kids should be tought to hold your peers accountable for their actions and taking a stand for people who get mistreated (boy or girl)
We all need to speak up for each other and stop expecting a reward (fame, money, even gratitude) for this common decency towards our fellow humans. The world would be better for it.
I actually did a few times. Even for a guy, who got beaten by the "cool kids" from school. I was never a queen, I was always the outcast. So I have no clue what you are implying here. 🤷🏼♀️
Also: I am speaking about that everyone on this earth needs to change their behaviour, not just that boys need to do this. And I am not talking about standing up for people in violence; I talk about preventing harm by nipping bad behaviour in the butt, before it gets out of hand, trough dialogue.
Why expect kids to meet a standard that even most adults don't? The bystander effect is well-documented, people are more likely to film an assault on their phones than to actually intervene. People just do nothing. This isn't a gender issue. This is a human issue. If adults were more courageous then kids could learn through example.
@SomeGuyCalledTom; with the response you gave I feel like you did not quite understand me, so:
I don't expect them to, I said it is good to learn them the right behaviour.
I also said that boys shouldn't be bystanders because the question, in the 1st place, was about boys. I followed up with the word kids because it is both genders and in the part after that I said it is the entire population of humans that need to work on this issue. I scaled up in my answer from the original question about boys, to kids, to the humans on this earth.
So yes, adults should give the example and people shouldn't be shitty towards each other. That is exactly what I already said but then with different words.
No, people should help each other, regardless of gender.
Also, I just noticed that you said 'our responsibility'... Like, do you have multiple personalities or what?
But, I've seen your other posts, questions and anwers; the "protection" you mentioned is not a gift, but more an exchange of goods. If you only want to help to get something in return then I don't want that "help"
Nothing free in this world snowflake. Your freedom isn’t free it comes at the high cost of soldiers lives. You respect both given and recorded isn’t free. I have to earn that. The kindness I show isn’t free. It’s with the understanding you will be kind to me in return. If you think anything’s free... that is without cost. Your not thinking critically about it.
But yeah I’m a part of that. It was my family fought for your freedom. I’m from a military family. Until me. I divided you weren’t worth fighting for a long time ago and look at you go proving me right little buddy.
@VanillaSalt Many families have ancesters who fought for their country. Also today the military is not fighting for our freedom. They are simply out there helping less developed countries in their wars or fighting for gun and oil profit.
@Vannilasalt This is exactly my point in what is wrong with the world and what I ment with my original message. You say you are not kind to me because you WANT to be kind, but because you expect something in return. That is the toxic way of thinking; expecting gratefulness, money, fame or favours for common decency is what makes the world so rotten in the 1st place. My respect for people is free, I don't expect people to be grateful just for me displaying common decently. The only thing I expect from people is for them to treat me like they want to be treated.
And yes, back in 1945 soldiers fought for me to be free and I am grateful for that. We even have 2 days in the Netherlands (4 and 5 may) to remember what those soldiers did. But if they were good soldiers they didn't do it because they wanted the fame and recognition, they did it because they wanted the word/situation to change for the better.
We can now conclude that you don't want the world to get better. I am thankful that you are not a soldier because I belive you would be a shitty and entitled one. Have a nice day 👋
You clearly are delusional or you just can't read. "I expect people to treat me like they want to be treated" Let me break that down for you: I don't expect them to treat me nice because I did it to them, I expect people to have common sense and think about how they want to be treated and apply that. But they are not OBLIGATED to do so. Even if they treat me badly, I won't treat them like shit for it. I'd still treat them with decency because that is what I want to do regardless of what others do to me. Because that is how I would like to be treated.
Are you fucking kidding me that’s ridiculous if people think it’s that fucking bad women should just abort all the males that’s not fair at all and ya know what why do men always have to apologize those crimes committed against them are isolated incidents
if I’m eating lettuce outside and a fluffle of rabbits come eat it is it fair for me to shoot every rabbit in existence no it’s not some rabbits like strawberries some like bell peppers it’s fair to punish the rest for a few lettuce eating dicks
When I was a very young kid my mother told me that if a teacher in school ever asked me to get down on my knees as punishment regardless of whether I did something or didn't do it I am to resist even if they threaten to expel me I was never to kneel before any human and through my entire school life it only happened once where me and a few boys were asked to kneel and they did but I refused and the teacher couldn't manage to get me on my knees and eventually gave up.
This is the same concept, were I student there I wouldn't apologize no matter how much peer pressure they apply and would very much rather being kicked out of school than to be subjected to any form of tyrany. Of course my would be kids will be taught to do the same.
Because that act really represents all that is wrong with our world. We are making boys feel guilty about things they have no control over and making girls feel entitled to apology for things that have never been done to them.
The outrage is justified. If I happen to be a parent of one of those boys, I'd do everything to make sure to get them to another school.
Absolutely sick how far the western world has come to only go backwards. Nobody is supposed to apologise for actions they did not commit, regardless of gender.
This is not even good for girls! The article also said that some girls, who had been victims, were exposed as such when the boys were made to turn to them and say sorry. So they began to cry, because now everyone knew what had happened to them.
@thisismyopinion Very well said! This is bad for both genders. I have no issues against the principle being a woman. At the same time, it doesn't strike me as a surprise that a woman happened to come with this ridiculous idea. And then they wonder why so many boys and men grow up resenting girls and women...
Even girls who came to this question presenting themselves as feminists are saying this is ridiculous. And then there is a guy here who is saying women wearing bikinis are sexually assaulting whoever looks at them... But he is just out of his mind.
@thisismyopinion Mate, this is G@G, what did you expect? I've met a girl here who thinks that a man staring at her from afar is "sexual harassment", despite her wearing 'revealing' clothes. Even if that guy happened not to catcall or make any form of contact with her. She even got flamed by another female G@G user for her ridiculous way of thinking. These are the type of women that are extremely dangerous. They can get the cops on top of you for not even committing an offense. Welcome to the internet. A place full of retards.
No they had no idea what they were being asked to apologise for. I have a relative in the town where this school is, the schools Head teacher started back pedalling like mad after the parents of the male students threatened to pull them out of the school en-mass because the school is funded by the number of students in the school. The parents are trying to get the Head teacher replaced as she is not fit for the job The school is in Warrnambool, Victoria a state that seems to be competing for the title of the WOKEST State in Australia.
If buy 'Did the direction apologized to the children?' you mean the principal Jane Boyle, then no she has not apologised to the children and the only statement she put out was because the parents majority of the parents who have boys at the college had to pull them out which would have left the college with a funding short fall as the funding follows the students. And those same parents are now pushing for principal Jane Boyle to be replaced. The boys are from are basically in middle school around 9 - 12 year old and they were very confused and could not understand why they were being asked to apologise for something they had not done nor even contemplated. One kid blew up on snapchat and he was basically daring the school to expel or suspend him the text was ‘Brauer is the most fucked up school you can go to, if this offends anyone I do not care, I will personally standby this till I die, GUYS GO THROUGH AS MUCH SHIT AS GIRLS DO! even it’s “mainly girls” I do not care. Guys are always the “bad guys” in everything these days all I see is “he done this and that” it’s never I done this so he done that. The rest was edited by the papers as it went down hill rapidly after that i have not been able to find a full copy of the rest... The guys are really mixed up and their trust of the senior teaching staff is virtually none existent, the only saving grace is the school has now closed for Easter. We will see what happens when the students return, though I have the feeling that the trust between male students and the teachers has been irreconcilably damaged and probably beyond repair.
Would not hold my breath, Victoria State what this rolled out across all of the states schools they are not going for the WOKEST State in Australia for nothing, the biggest threat to them rolling this out is the parent. if they pull all their sons out of main stream educations it will make a serious impact, but there are odd ball parents who are actually supporting Victoria State on the roll out.
The Intersectional/Identitarian Woke Mob like the school principal do not think they are doing any thing wrong and are totally blind to the trauma they are inflicting in the name of 'Equality' but to make it worse they are pushing for the 'Equality of Outcome' not an 'Equality of Opportunity'.
Exactly. The article also said that some girls, who had been victims, were exposed as such when the boys were made to turn to them and say sorry. So they began to cry, because now everyone knew what had happened to them.
This is an example of my upbringing. Constantly being told that men are bad. We've spoken about this before and the psychological damage this kind of indoctrination can cause.
I agree 100%. Literally 90% of the men I’ve met are good people, and only one was worse than a minor creep. Guys are not the enemy, they aren’t bad, they’re human beings that deserve the same courtesy and respect that everyone else should receive.
No at all. But let em do whatever they want destroy, humiliate and angry men more sure go ahead make us slaves for all i care.
Let them see where this movement will take em.
Sure I'm be laughing when this escalates 🤦 destroy this world even further go ahead be my guest. We all know this was coming because why the f not. Next thing we know men are in the Zoo locked behind a cage like beasts.
I will ask this WHERE ARE OUR RIGHTS AS MAN? WHERE ARE THEY? We don't have any anymore!
We are a bunch of idiots all of us.
AND THAT AIN'T EQUALITY! Because we men are nothing this days. Because we keep on showing understanding to woman & what do we get? We have to apologize for everything. I'm done with this world and when this escalates blame yourselfs because there is a difference between equal rights and being the village idiots.
This is the result of propaganda. It's interesting to me that to feminists "gender is a construct" until it come to antisocial behavior then men are inherently evil. No men aren't more antisocial it's just that women are usually treated more lightly in the legal system so arrest and conviction numbers are misleading.
this stupid fucking I have seen.] if men tried to force women to apologize they would get a go for jail or prison. yet fine is women force men. this is why I dislike modem feminist these people are worst and they only do for cloud and bad negative for me.
when I ask guys at while I was in college they said they be ashamed by having learning disabilities that they couldn't control with and yep these guys were also ashamed by being short guys and lot girls in my college didn't like me since I don't want to deal with being who as shame to get cloud
Sigh... No, no it is not. This goes for us too, it's not cause some guy's been abused by girls in his life that I'm gonna apologize on their behalf. We're all different. They're at fault, they should apologize. Not some random individual who just happens to be of the same gender. Man hating posts by women here? Beats me. The majority of my friends are still guys. You all rock.
Ridiculous no one needs to be sorry for their gender orientation country religion or heritage. If u can not handle someone it is ur own lack of awareness, control and understanding not theirs. Esp when it comes to kids. Yes boys are boys and there are way to deal with what boys do. Not all are testo nuts and not all girls are sensitive. But to make someone to do this is just plain ignorance.
What. the. hell. This is lunacy. There are far better ways to teach compassion and empathy. Somebody's got to wrangle in these teachers. They're causing more division and bitterness, not less.
Absolutely not. Not only is it sexist but boys are apologizing for crimes they are too young to understand unless it happened to them themselves. I guarantee you those crimes have already happened to some of those boys and now they are forced to apologize for it. This is cancer.
I think all women should be forced to stand up and apologize to all men for feminism.
See how that works?
This story is just an overt example of the treatment most boys experience in today's public school system. Although I wasn't forced to actually apologize for it, I was certainly made to feel ashamed for being male by many of my teachers.
Oh well I've heard about the brauer college bs it's utter stupidity tbh. Those kids were forced to apologize for something which is utterly disgusting. One of those kids informed that after all that other kids in the school (mostly girls) started giving them all some weird looks as if they have fr done something wrong and one of them who didn't stand up as he knew nothing about wtf is happening was punished. They're literally teaching those kids that "all men are rapists" like wtf that institution should be shut down.
No that's not right. Not all men are the same and why should you apologize for something you didn't do? That doesn't make any sense to me. Teaching them what's right and wrong is the correct way for me.
Man that's so stupid this will push young boys to hate girls. Like False feminism has corrupted young girls minds, I can see on this Site itdrlf how young girls feel about boys or Men in general and I see the hatred in there hearts but it was taught to them.
If this continues like this I think hatred will brew between both genders if instilled these kind of thoughts and fear in young kids
Forcing some to apologize for anything under any circumstances is dumb. When an apology is forced, it's insincere.
When it's over something people have no control over, in relation to something they have nothing to do with, it's completely asinine.
Imagine forcing everybody with Algerian descent to apologize for being the original slavers and slave traders to North America hundreds of years ago. Somehow I don't think that would fly.
I was raised go respect women in that they're not objects, you protect the girl, to be a gentleman. Never a simp, none of that had to do with apologies for something I'd never done.
Majority of men would never hurt a woman especially rape one lot of us have mothers, and sisters and gfs, but society painted us all as potential threats who can't control themselves. And people believe it.
Realistically, no. But, If boys would all come together to not commit crimes, then they REALLY wouldn’t have shit to apologize for.
But, I don’t see the point in apologizing for your gender instead of just making our yourself a better individual so then you can all be better as a whole.
Wow wow wow I don’t fucking think so. Their fucking children! They have NOTHING to apologize for. You can apologize for every thing your shitty general done. You’re the reason for all this sad shit, even like you.
@erin_ireland You mean the 3% of women compared to male incarcerations? I don’t think so. But, I never said kids had to own up to a grown man’s mistakes.
“But if “boys” would come together to not commit crimes, then they “REALLY” wouldn’t have shit to apologize for.”
Your words exactly. So from that you thing crime is man’s fault and specifically “boys” or young men should do something About it... and “really”... in caps... sure seems like you think we have something to apologize for right now...
Australia, of course. The land of people so open-minded, they decided that bigotry didn't get a fair shake, so they should give it another chance. If you wouldn't do it to black people for being black, or Muslims for being Muslims, don't do it to men for being men. It's not a complicated idea.
I'm just here sitting and waiting what is going to be the last straw, how far insanity needs to go before people realize that we need to start locking these assholes up. Being a libtard isn't a political opinion, it's an active contribution to the destabilization and destruction of human society.
Regardless of your gender, you should not have to apologize for it because that is not your fault. You have no say what you will be when you are conceived.
Anyone who says you have to apologize for your gender is a fucking retard.
I am not trying to portrait women as evil or men as victims. If anything I believe men still hold many advantages on society and one of them is regarding to safety. Doesn't make this case any less ridiculous.
you can't deny what we are seeing in society and how men are being treated. Women get treated like shit by the shit men in society. The vast majority of men aren't that way. But women are often attracted to the assholes and know it. When they get burned they come after us all even though they knew the types of assholes they were getting involved with. You can't deny what the video shows. Trying to say we are all misogynists is to be too prideful to just admit when something messed up is happening from your side of the spectrum.
@David_Kek it's more like "I'm too proud to admit that the bullshit I've been fed might be lies so I'm going to double down for sake of convenience and tell myself different outcomes will fall from the sky because I can't deal with or accept change."
@aliali8 Wait a minute, I remember you, you're the one that's gonna be finding a multimillion air any day now, and can't help but project her own faults onto all of society to avoid taking personal responsibility for them. So... how you been?
@t-8900 Women don't like assholes. Women like guys that are masculine, interesting, charismatic. Problem is, that assholes tend to be the masculine, interesting ones. The nancy , prancy, good boys that are boring and lack personality , lack masculinity. These are the guys who know they have nothing to offer so they pretend to be "nice". And they expect women should like them just because they are "nice".
It doesn't work that way. Being nice is not enough for a woman to fall for you. There has to be something more than that. Nice people are not hard to find. There are many many nice people out there.
@aliali8 I'm pretty sure I've never in my life demanded or asked women to apologize for things they haven't done, let alone little girls. What about you?
But I'm just gonna warn the men on this website: if you're gonna have a nasty attitudie twoards women or misogyny of any type, you will never ever have a long lasting relationsihp / marraige with a woman. Because its only a matter of time before she finds out about your lack of respect towards women. You can hide it today but you can't hide it tomorrow. Once she finds out, the marriage relationship will be down the drain immediately.
So if you're a misogynist or if you lack respect towards women, you might as well just give up hoping to date or find love. Because it won't last.
A lot of divorces happen because frequently spouses show their true color after marriage.
@aliali8 I agree with you, yet this OP has nothing do to with that. That being the case, this is another example of you projecting your faults onto something else so you don't have to take responsibility for them. You are a misandrist who doesn't respect men, and you deep down know that's one of the main things that gets in the way of your relationships being successful. So, you might want to look into dealing with that.
@David_Kek i dont have to own anything. you just came on here to randomly accuse me of random things because you didn't like the fact that women do prefer to marry rich men
@aliali8 I'm not the one trying to start shit accusing men of misogyny, for brining up a case of misandry and merely asking if this is acceptable. How's that for being bitter?
@aliali8 Do you even know what misogyny is? Because you come across as the type that'll accuse a guy of it for merely disagreeing with you on something.
@David_Kek i know what misogyny is. But if you're gonna be disrespectful to women , just because you can't reach their standards, thats another reason why I won't respect you.
@David_Kek I respect men who respect women. I respect men who are honest with themselves. So if you have a nasty attitude towards women especially towards women who haven't harmed you in any way shape or form, then I will not respect you. And it doesn't matter how much you complain about it.
If you don't like women who are disrespectful to men, dont expect women to like men that are disrespectful.
Yep I want to leave the country once my dad passes away and I have nothing left to tie me down here. It's getting stupid all over because sadly the world emulates the US so much. But some places will never get this stupid. I am to go to said places. If that means I have to learn a foreign language, so be it. There is no hope for this place anymore.
I ask myself why aren't more men choosing a crime life over this pathetic "life" society demands us to comply with.
If I'm a bad person because of my gender and skin color, what's the problem if I end up robbing and murdering some people instead of working and being a law abiding citizen?
That is horrible. I would never allow my child to stand up and apologize for something they never did. That is just sick. Not all males are bad people Just like not all females are
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Thats just so fucking ridiculous, no wonder why parents are pissed. Id be pissed if my kid had to "apologise" for their gender. This is basically discrimination at its finest if you ask me.
Well if we could just get along. Stop blaming men for your insecurities. Stop blaming women for who they are. Stop allowing leftist agendas Dictate how we feel. Learn to love one another. Stop tbe hate.
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that school would be finished if my child went there. My new full time job would be destroying them from existence. That's called institutional sexism and last I heard, we shouldn't want that.
The crazy thing is some girls here seem to defend this bs. How fcked up can you possibly be to support this? This is exactly why men's rights movements exist in the first place. Luckily the vast majority of girls here seem to have common sense, so thanks for that.
Why would they stop? They're never punished for it. Everytime they come up with a new bullshit, at worst they get a little backlash. Start hammering them with sanctions for sexism, racism, discrimination, bullying, every time they try this shit, and you'll see they will stop pretty soon. But as long as you let them do it, they won't.
This kind of treatment at such a young age is going to kill self-esteem, create more resentments between the sexes, increase violence, increase suicide rates, and create a generation of weak men who are afraid of their own masculinity.
No. It serves the purposes of sexist and/homosexual agenda; it is certainly not right. Knowing male from female is one of the cornerstones of the human species.
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