Hell no. Ever heard of a gymcel?
Its a particular type if incel. Usually when people think of incels, they think of losers who never tried.
A gymcel is an incel who DID try, by getting fit, learning social skills, making money, having hobbies, everything you're "supposed to do" to get girls. None of it works and they stay an incel.
There is no describable concept for a guy to learn that will get him girls. However, although women deny it to the death, there IS a universal concept that is attractive to all women.
That concept isethereal. Impossible to describe. A man cannot learn it by reading it. Only through experiences can a man learn what women want.
And women can help you have those experiences. Women will respond to you in DRAMATICALLY different ways, depending on how you act.
This is how you learn to become attractive to women. By learning to adopt various attitudes and actions, mental frames or whatever, and them exposing said action or whatever to women and seeing how they react.
You'll know you did something right, because suddenly girls will treat you very differently.
It cannot be taught or explained. I've heard of bootcamps where guys take students to clubs, and push them into situations with girls that they are terrified of. A little advice whispered in your ear, you do as the teacher says, the girls react to you in ways you have never seen girls act, and suddenly you see the light.
That's how you get girls. You fiddle with the knobs until the picture comes in clear. The knobs are how you act and present yourself and how your inner self projects onto the girl.
Once you got it right, it applies to all women. Still doesn't mean you can fuck all women, but it's a whole new life where you have options unlike 90% of men who dont seem to have options. You go from 1/10000 to 1/50 that's a huge improvement.00 Reply
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+1 yIt does but keep it natural. Cause by building muscle you improve your body by improving your body you start too like it so don't set the bars too high for yourself. By starting to like how you like you get more confidents. A confident man is something different than A cocky man.
In my experience women always tend to go to cocky men more cause they fake their confidence. When that fake confidence barrière is broken down they come to Complain to the nice guys.
You asking this question is in my opinion seeking an excuse too lift and I say yes Lift.
I Got a lot more musculair, kept it lean tho.
But also head to fix my teeth and get another hairstyle now women passing by are actively searching for my attention.
I was always ignored by women.
I've been confident about my looks for about 2 weeks and it is being confident with your looks that makes the difference.
Don't have data from experience dating yet thanks to lockdown but first results after working out and changing my hair and fixing teeth are promising00 Reply
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+1 yI'm not going to date a guy just because he has muscles.
What's important is how he is as a person and whether or not we vibe, click and just fit together.
If I don't feel comfortable around him, then it doesn't matter how good, bad or average he looks.
I'm impressed by muscles because they look good (depending on the size and such), but it's because I know it's been hard work and because it looks good.
But that has nothing to do with whether the guy is dateable or not.
Attraction to me is more about his energy, charm, and personality, and not as much his fat percentage, or muscle mass.
I can appreciate eye candy without wanting more from them than looking.40 Reply
+1 yMuscles aren't going to get you girls by themselves, but they certainly can help get your foot in the door. That certainly was the case for me and my husband. Would I have married him if his only good traits were his muscles? Freak no! But (if I'm honest) his muscles did make me a fair bit more likely to say "yes" to those early dates.
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I used to be skinny and now I am buff. Was 120 pounds but now I am 140 pounds of muscle.
To answer your question yes and no. I was getting female attention and women at 120 pounds and 20 years old to 25 years old.
But I am 33 and 140 pounds. I still get laid when i was skinny and now. But I would say that with muscles have had less sex but hotter women. Women can get suspicious and initimidated by sexy fit men. When i was just a skinny guy I had more sex but with fat girls or more ugly girls. Now that I am older but with muscle I have definitely had sex with women who were out of my league.
With that said... what changes is your confidence too. That is a huge draw for women.
I also want to point out something that women experience but men rarely do.
When you are a fit and buff guy you get free shit all the time. I work for a nonprofit and my female boss gave me a starbucks gift card for having a nice phone conversation with a client. I was on the elevator the other day and two girls game me a bottle of wine. Just last night I was driving for uper delivery and got a massive tip from a stripper.
BEING BUFF GETS YOU FREE STUFF AND JOB BENEFITS.10 Reply
+1 yIt depends on what you want to happen with said girl. All girls in my opinion are attracted to a built male body. Just like all males are attracted to bodies of certain females.
However, I know a jacked dude who is built because that is all he wants to do, sleep with lots of different women and be done with it. When I was at my strongest/biggest I didn't like the continual effort and expense. If you stop working out, you start losing all of your gains. Plus in my experience, the biggest and strongest dudes in the gym can still get their ass handed to them if they get tagged even once. Do you notice those big dudes in the gym don't fight professionally, let alone in the amateur level? Georges St-Pierre might be a great example of a great body who fought and he did well because he was the pinnacle of physical stature while fighting in the world of MMA.
The inverse can be true too. A girl who focuses on her appearance too much can be a royal pain in the ass, at least in my experience anyway. Imagine taking over an hour every day to get ready, before you ever even leave your house. Imagine caring only about your physical appearance, never giving to another person who needs help, never being a considered decent by most other people and at the end of the day being a *expletive* by normal standards.
There are all sorts of people in the world, I get that. If you can bring lots of other traits to the table in a relationship, be happy with who you are and don't work on your body's fitness. If you want to work-out and sleep with lots of women and be really shallow, go for it. If you want to be some where in the middle, there are all sorts of options.00 Reply
+1 yNope.
If you pay attention to what women say most don't go for muscular guys just because they have them.
Most women like a guy who takes care of himself. In that regard, a bit of muscle and some toning may play a part in the initial attraction. Or, just play a role in "he's nice to look at, but that's it." So, muscles, in and of themselves, are more like a bonus so long as they are not overdone and throw off the body proportions.
Most women are going to place a higher value on how well they connect with a guy. If the guy has the same values and meets a core set of standards in regards to the type of relationship she is looking for. Muscles or not, if you don't pass those all you will get is "hmm, nice to look at, but that's all he's going for him."10 ReplyMuscles alone will not get you girls, but it definitely helps to be muscular. If you go from being skinny or overweight to being muscular you'll notice a difference in the way women act towards you.
But it's an initial attraction thing, just like money. If you're dressed in nice clothes, you drive a nice car, that's obviously gonna make you look better too.
But then if you open your mouth and you're boring, or you're a dickhead, that attraction is gone. If you've got an un-fuckable personality you can lift all the weights and make all the money you like and it won't make much difference.
So you definitely should lift weights, you should aim to be as successful as possible, but you should also be interesting, funny etc.10 Reply
+1 yI think muscles will attract most women, though honestly, I don't think most would be into the "roided" look.
I think good looking AND muscles AND power AND influence AND 60K income AND a sexual dynamo - followed by maybe MAYBE some of that "solid long term relationship stuff" will do it for most women, though I'd say most men don't need that "strong relationship stuff" unless the woman is more interested in settling down. A musclebound guy will impress more women on average, and tend to impress younger women, but if he's a huge jerk, it won't do as good as if he's a decent dude. So it's not everything, even if fitness is very important to her.
Do you NEED huge muscles to find someone? Nope. But it will generally give you more of a chance with a larger selection of women.00 Reply530 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. My muscles have been fairly strong for a long time, a lot of fluctuation but I was never anywhere near model level muscular. While I won't say muscles HURT chances, they certainly don't guarantee anything as you have to have your tactical belt loaded with so many different qualities to get a girl and just having muscles alone won't do it, not even a hookup. It will make it easier, but don't think you're going to put in the work to look like The Terminator and have that work payoff for you in the dating world if you don't develop other qualities, too.
00 ReplyLook at the way people reacted to different movie scenes where the "hero" is showing some muscle.
That is "in" with most women.
Too much muscle like bodybuilder type or just acting like an asshole because you have muscles is a big no.
A good personality while doing something "sweet" with animals or taking care of somebody or just doing something meaningful but have a fit body too is the way to go.
Go lift these heavy ass weights, but not for the women.
Do it, if it is something you want.00 Reply- 659 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic.
+1 yMuscles are intimidating. Girls like them but in a scared rapey kind of way. They think wow he could hurt me or rape me. Which is part turn on but part turn off. They like you can protect them but also are afraid you will attack them or something like that.
Im not extremely large but im quite built and i get a lot of girls who touch my chest and arms or comment on my thighs and ass. They like it a lot. However I've had some girls straight up say they were intimidated because i was by far the most jacked man they ever were up close to and its scary. They didn't explain further. Yet they same girls say they love my arms and can't stop touching me.
My current girlfriend loves to give me massages just to touch all over me. And she's always kissing my biceps 💪and touching my chest. She also loves the strength because i can easily pick her up and carry her or hold her in crazy sex positions. Which she likes a lot that many man wouldn't be strong enough to do.00 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yIt will get you noticed, but if you have a shit personality, you still won't get the girl. If you walk around flexing to try and impress people, that just shows your desperation. Your strength and muscularity will show in your everyday movements, especially in clothes that fit well, so there's no need to show off.
I'm 180lbs and about 9% body fat, and I get attention and comments about my chest, back and arms all the time even though I kinda downplay it. I just smile and say thank you and divert the conversation away from it.
Wearing tank tops, flexing, talking about it, holding your arms out from your sides to make you look bigger... just makes you look like a tool.00 Reply
+1 yDespite what girls may say, having muscles is part of physical attraction and it helps get attention. Don't be overly muscular and look like a monster... just some nice lean muscle and still look good when you wear clothes.
BUT...
Very few girls will like you if you don't have a nice personality. Physical attraction is one thing, but the main thing to keep a girl is a winning personality... unless you're just looking for hookups of course.10 Reply
+1 yIt will certainly attract more attention of females that are into that. I for one tend to have a preference for well defined but on the skinny side. I can appreciate a good muscular body but it is not something I go crazy for. The added boost of confidence that you feel when you like how you look certainly helps but developing skills and finding your passions and having the ability to hold a good conversation will get you much farther in dating then the gym (at least by itself), especially if you are trying to date longer term.
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+1 yNope! That is an eye candy only. Can be fit looking good but have personality that many don't like, does happen all the time. Or have a bad temper, attitude and many do not even get close to that and yes! It happens way more than you think. BUT! It's keeps you stay in shape, healthy and that is the real win here
00 Reply2.1K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. it's really hot when a guy has muscles but not a big deal if he doesn't as long as he's fit
70 ReplyIt improves your overal chances because most women like a muscular body so more chance of physical attraction but you aren't in the clear yet. You still have to be interesting and emotional attractive to them aswel. Though you can get away with not showing emotional side most of the time, giving a crack and showing the potential to open up actually improves your chance most of the time, most women like it for some reason.
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+1 yThinking back to just instinct. A physically fit man shows you can provide. You're strong, healthy, good sperm. That sort of thing. It's common to be attracted to it
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However too much muscle can a turn off. It's almost intimidating
+1 yI'd assume a guy with muscles is on steroids, a player, or is full of himself. I like muscles on a guy but I prefer the natural lean muscular look.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yMost buff gym guys I’ve met are not so likeable. So that’s a now. Most women don’t go chasing looks. Young girls might. Confidence is important. Lack of confidence and self-esteem for either men or women are often a root cause for relationship problems. Plus confident people have good energy, we’re attracted to good energy, unless we’re self destructive and/or have issues.
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+1 yMuscles isn’t a big deal to me because some men have muscles and their personality do not match their body.
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+1 yYou have to be physically attracted to a person- muscles usually help. But you need to have a kind personality too, and I’m not the biggest fan of rippling abs either. I just want someone in good shape, you don’t have to be carved like Michelangelo
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+1 yWomen want what they’re told to want. Proof? The dadbods fad a few years ago. Women are incapable of deciding what they like on their own; and, no girls that want to argue, you’re not special. You wouldn’t be every market’s target marketing demographic if it wasn’t child’s play to manipulate you into buying overpriced garbage.
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+1 ygaining muscle is what opens the door to confidence in masculinity and overall capability. For a guy to attract a girl he needs to look physically capable to protect and provide. How would i have any confidence in getting women if i was OVERWEIGHT
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+1 yYou're pretty much right generally people who work out have more confidence which is what is attractive. So no it's not the muscles its the confidence for me at least.
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Anonymous(18-24)+1 yim actually super turned off by anyone with too much muscle... be fit but not a body builder <3
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+1 yPersonally, I don’t really like the hella muscly guys who look like they are on steroids but having some muscle looks good on guys. I also don’t like the really skinny guys too but u know that’s just my preference. Not too much muscle but not too skinny :)
00 Reply534 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Recently for me, yes 🤤
Obviously need a nice face to match, but muscles are definitely a plus.30 Reply587 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. To some extent but there's such a thing as excessively muscular
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yThere was a girl / bbw 28F who I used to see after we stop seeing each other she quickly started seeing a heavy bodybuilder / daddy figure 44F. She tells me she has a lot more deeper emotional connections with her bodybuilder / man and she saids the sex is WAY BETTER then me. Her boyfriend is 2x more muscular then the young Arnold Schwarzenegger and Dwayne Johnson put together and right now their trying to climb higher careers positions and then start making the family.
00 ReplyThe only reason I was attrac d to my ex fiancée was because he was really toned with big muscles. Otherwise he wasn’t my type at all lol.
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+1 yFairly sure that sculpted muscles are the women's version of big boobs. Everybody finds them interesting, not everyone is madly into them.
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m +1 yThere is a few kinds of body complexions and levels of musculature, it would be a mistake to think there is just one way to be "muscular"
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+1 ymen don't get discouraged, keep working out! muscles are hot lol
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+1 yNope. Looks can only last so long and it gets boring. It’s more about how the person is. 🤓
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Yess!! But the brain needs to be well-trained as well 😊
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+1 yI picked C. Lean muscles are sexy, but no matter how attractive you are if you're personality stinks women will be turned off
00 ReplyI saw the poll results, then I burst laughing at gym thugs 💪. Then I remembered that I don't have a girl in the first place so I weirdly stopped laughing. 😂
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+1 yI don't care about muscle since some muscle on men can look very fake and they likely has drug that made their body's that why. I would prefer with walking and dancing.
10 ReplyToo much muscle scares me and makes me feel insecure. And obviously that's more on me than the other person but regardless, it's the truth 😔
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+1 yMy friends and I don’t like muscular and 6 packed guys. Not every girl likes society’s beauty standards.
00 ReplyWe all have differences in the things we like and don’t. Yes a good body messes with a girls mind... and may get u a specific group of girls whose main goal Is sex. But for a relationship, you have to do more than hit the gym
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+1 yThey get my attention. But if he got nothing else going for him we pretty much done
10 ReplyI like muscles just as long as they aren't crazy jacked up. Like they have an athletic figure but are also skinny.
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+1 yNot me. I may look. But, an overly muscle man doesn't do it for me. I like athletic or middle weight boxer physique as far as muscle built goes. I'll still look if your my type. And, my type various.
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Most men are not muscular, but average to? built. And, yes, if you attract me physically and sexually, your character weighs in. It will determine if you are the man casually or seriously.
It does but you gotta have a nice personality and good looks to go with it. I got chased down by a married columbian woman who’s husband wasn’t currently at home. That was after the gym. Tall, thick. ❤️
00 ReplyYeah lol
They bring more attention from everyone.
It’s still 1000% Possible to to have girls without them but I can personally tell you, Yes.
I used to be a chubby bastard.
I lost weight, Gained muscle, I can promise you, Yes.00 Reply1.6K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. If you are in shape and fairly muscular I would say yes. If you are of weird proportions and huge then I would say maybe not so much.
00 ReplyNo, I don't care for them. That's only what little girls might like, not mature women. As long as he's not obese or overweight it's fine by me
30 ReplyMhm, the superficial ones that you probably shouldn't date if you're looking for anything serious, but yeah.
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+1 yNot on their own, that's for sure.
If you're fit but you haven't got a personality, good sense of humour and style... oyu're not going anywhere.00 Reply
+1 yI love guys who have nice fitted and a little bit ripped body but personality is much more important
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+1 yIf you think looking better increases your chances of getting a date (it does), then yes.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yIf you look up ANY male body transformation story, you will see that they were literally poison to women until they because fit and then became pussy crack.
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+1 yNo, it's only money that wins a woman's heart. You need money.
10 Reply Sure, some muscle toned bodies are nice... but so is a man with a tummy carrying a little extra weight. Size doesn't matter.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yI'm not attracted to muscles. So that's a no for me
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yThey sure are attractive, however you could add personality to it to have even more chance
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Anonymous(18-24)+1 yMuscles are pretty much (to me) on equal plane with a cute face or being pretty tall
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+1 yI’m not saying it does and it doesn’t. If you’re building muscle or going through any physical transformation you should be doing for yourself, not to impress the girls.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI've come to learn that a lot of guys who spend much time in the gym are often vapid, but thats not e representation of all of them.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yIt can if you have the personality of a incel and complains about how girls look. They ask you if you got muscles and you can say yes, boom! You probably can get yourself a girlfriend
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yEw.
I'm not
I'm in love w skinny slim guy handsome my panties fall off30 Reply- Show More (30)
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