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Women don’t care about a guys struggles due to the fact they believe a man should have everything in order to make their life easier. That’s why they choose the bread winner, the Alpha’s. That’s why women cheat when the next best thing come around for them to snatch up.
If that was how the women you met in your life acted you had a shit luck with women. Most of them are not like that.
Yea, not me, dude. Just seen my friends and family get with shit women that act like that. I don’t let a women get beside themselves with me. I’ll leave a woman where she’s at if she tries me. I have no patience for out of line women that tries to run me. Not a yes man, never will be. Besides, I have a very good career, good friends, good life and can care less about impressing a woman with a shit attitude. Life to short.
You need to find one that is not a bitch, but has something going on. Those are the best ones.
No, having emotional difficulties or something you're struggling with isn't gonna scare of women. In most cases the emotional part actually attracts them. Though you still need to have your shit together true but a couple holes in the wall isn't gonna stop em from moving in :)
I disagree ( as a teenager) yea I want him to have his shit together but I’m not gonna just wait for him to get there unless it’s a serious mental issue that he or any issue period that he wants to go through by himself and he’s told me that, otherwise he’s going to find my ass right next to him either emotionally or physically. Hell maybe even on a mentally since I know that shit hurts when it feels like you can’t change it.
Does anyone really care about 'struggles'?
I can't be around women who whine and complain about their lives. Most of them come from rich backgrounds and have no perspective.
USA needs to start caring for it's labour force.
In the mean time
Here is some unsolicited advice
You won't like this but sooner or later you need to think just a little bit more like a woman.
YOU need to start waiting at the finish line and picking the winners.
Not that true.
But women do tend to date up.
Of course they would like a winner, but they are happy with somebody too who is doing pretty good.
Most women would not want somebody who is worse off than them. Nothing wrong with that, just human nature. Women want a provider and security, somebody they respect.
That is why I don't care about women. I've seen them get slapped around by men and I don't give a fuck. They don't give a fuck about us why should I care about them.
B. Not all women want to be a prize for being successful in life. I'd rather start from the bottom and build a rock solid relationship with someone that knows we struggle mutually and share in the good and the bad.
Some does some other's doesn't.
As it appears there are more that doesn't.
Always be aware of that many tries to appear they are.
It's to appear in a good light even if they aren't. stereotypical female behavior amongst those that are insecure in certain ways mixed with attitude problems with that.
Some are but some definitely aren’t. Women should be qualifying a man who at least has his shit together. He doesn’t necessarily have to be super good looking or rich but comfortable and maintains a healthy well rounded lifestyle.
Bullshit, women are opportunist and will take the best that they can get if a super good looking rich guy does come along 9 out of 10 women will leave Or cheat on the sht together guy
That would be a foolish mistake on her part if she’s looking for best overall. Looks and money are only a small portion of what makes a quality man. His attitude and behavior should weigh the most. If not then she’s setting herself up for disappointing short term flings with sub par behaving fuckboys.
Especially women of my generation which is why I date highschool girls
Well you’re only 21 so your generation IS high school kids.
My girlfriend is 15
Well that’s illegal.
Nope not if we’re just dating
Why would you date a child 15 year old when you’re 21?
A 15 year old isn’t a child and she doesn’t know enough to play games like women my age do
Yeah she’s a minor and you’re an adult. That is so incredibly inappropriate.
She’s very mature for her age more so than a lot of women my age
You can have a companionship with someone her age but strictly no sexual activities. Mentally she’s less developed and you’re not mentally fully developed either but you’ll realize that later on.
We don’t have sex but there’s sexual activity most definitely we’re young adults we have needs
She’s not an adult. And you need to be in prison.
For getting handjobs from my girlfriend?
Absolutely. What state do you live in?
Mississippi
Why would I need to be in prison for that?
Well I’m in corporate, so why would I go for someone who wants? As a woman you want someone who is equal or a provider. Why would I date a homeless guy?
That is if I was going to date. I am not.
@emilym12345
That is why I do not step in when a man is attacking a woman. I figure she is probably a narcissistic bitch anyway so why intervene for a woman like that.
Even if someone is a narcissistic bitch it’s still wrong to beat someone
@emilym12345
Even if he is far from perfect doesn't mean that he should be written off as "undateable".
@joeblow123 that doesn't make sense. So everyone is "dateable"? Go grab yourself a homeless lady if you want, but I think your statement is laughably, obviously, untrue. In fact, I think plenty of people who DO have their shit together are still "undateable", or at least not someone I would want to date.
Of course, on the the flip side, we should do our best to treat others with dignity and respect, but there's a difference between that and dating them.
@zeitgeist057
What I said to whathername is what I said to whathername. She is a big girl she can answer for herself,.
@joeblow123 what I said to you I said to you, and if you're a big boy feel free to answer. Is there something you need explained to you about the public forum format here?
@zeitgeist057
We're not talking about literal dating. Dating and protection in this case are metaphors that represent true equality. Something men value and something women value. If we don't matter to them they don't matter to us.
Well I really value my career, obviously not all women are like this. I would want someone who values their career as well.
I don't have my shit together and certainly don't expect a guy to have either. I do however expect to be prioritised in his life and to feel wanted and accepted as I am, and I will gladly reciprocate.
That's generally right, but misses some details. Your struggles certainly matter to the extent that they demonstrate your ability to solve and weather multiple types of problems. Women (like all people) are forward looking and they want to make sure their man can deal with TOMORROW'S potential problems, so whatever you have that demonstrates your fitness in that regard will certainly help your cause.
There are a lot of ways to win besides becoming exceptionally wealthy. Besides, there are a lot more women than wealthy men. So you probably can't date a famous woman, but there are plenty of lovely women you can date.
Sort of.
Is there really a finish line though? It's more like they look at who is in farther long relative to how long they've been at it and just jump into the race with those guys at that point, and they also can step out of the race at their leisure as well if so desired. So not so much a finish line, but rather piggybacking onto whoever is ahead.
It's very true. There's a saying that goes "Behind every successful man is a woman." This is not because she helped him get there but because she waited and put herself there when he made his success.
There's no way to make a flat decision on that. Yes there's always people out there that only want the best themselves. But I've been with women that would carry me to the finish line if I was weak and couldn't make it. And I would do the same for them That's what you're supposed to have in your relationship. If someone isn't willing to do that they don't need to be in a relationship at all.
Who wouldn't want a winner.. No one gets turned on by a loser, so if she can't help you win, she should stand at the finish line for the one who wins. One should discredit her for that. Winners are the biggest turn on. Ask any truthful lady.
Newsflash: No one cares about your troubles but you.
I certainly wouldn’t disagree but that wasn’t the question.
It also implies “why should women care about your troubles?”
Sure, if you believe all women are like bachelor actresses.
Of course we care about your struggles... what kind of awful human being wouldn't care about another person's struggles?
This seems normal from younger more idealistic women. But women are predictable. The moment they decide they want a family, high ideals go out the window.
"What kind of awful human being wouldn't care about another person's struggles?"
Most modern women.
@Qdbrown Do not label things I say as "idealistic" just because I am young. You don't know anything about me.
@MCheetah... poll answers would suggest otherwise...
You're showing the signs. Deal.
@Qdbrown... sure... not gonna argue with you... seems you have your own problems to deal with.
The poll is 60-40. In any case, it's irrelevant because you haven't been a single straight male in modern society who's less than a 9 out of 10.
I'm not trying to be rude or sexist, but women say bullshit 24/7. Like, it's scientifically proven women will say anything to avoid looking bad in public, and that they care about their reputations far more so than men, hence are a lot less honest. I just don't feel like bullshitting or mincing words today, so I'm just being blunt.
You could argue most HUMANS are selfish as fuck, in general, but men are typically the ones who society looks to to protect everyone else (women, children, and elders). Women never have to hold the weight of keeping their bosses, spouses, children, and neighbors happy. Most women can literally just get away with looking pretty and that's all society expects of them. Men have ten times the workload and don't even get so much as a fucking thank you for it all. Hence, why male suicides are like 9x greater than women's, and why femcels don't even exist.
Speaking of which, whenever men DO suffer, it's always women who are the first ones to shit on them. The "all men died, women most affected" meme. Women (and society, as a whole) think of men in terms of "what are you doing for me?" So excuse me if I'm a bit vocal when I talk about this, and tell others to cut the bullshit.
Yes, the poll is 60-40 but look at the gender divide. Why would over 80% of women answering this be lying? That just makes no logical sense. "Most women can literally just get away with looking pretty and that's all society expects of them" how the hell do you think that feels? Having society expect that the only thing you are capable of is looking pretty? I work hard every day to be the best I can be in my education and in my personal life, and I'm not gonna sit here and take this. I don't give a damn about whether people think I'm pretty or not.
"Why would over 80% of women answering this be lying?"
I literally already answered this. "Women will say anything to avoid looking bad in public, and that they care about their reputations far more so than men, hence are a lot less honest."
"How the hell do you think that feels?"
Now you're literally doing the same thing I just SAID women in general do. "Women (and society, as a whole) think of men in terms of 'what are you doing for me?' The 'all men died, women most affected' meme." This is a question about whether women care about men's struggles or not, and you're literally turning into shit about women and trying to make it into a woman's problem.
The only reason I am so annoyed at this because yes, I am one of those men who have struggled and dealt with fourteen years of depression, from age 17 to age 31. And I can confirm women in general don't give a flying fuck about men suffering, especially those who aren't conventional attractive looking or would make good husbands and financial providers. And I do find it pretty fucking insulting that some women can't even let men have the "yes, we suffer" thing without trying to fucking usurp it and make it all about them. It irks me how some women can't see how fucking selfish that is. That men can't even TALK about suffering without women making that shit all about THEM.
"Men don't suffer! How DARE you talk about women that way! Like we don't do anything for men! You misogynist! You're just an incel for thinking all women don't care about men! This is why we need feminism!"
I'm sorry if I come off rude, but you have no idea how insulting it is to deal with this crap everyday, as a guy.
@MCheetah Well yes, you did come off as very rude indeed, and you aren't sorry. You can't go around saying things about how it feels to be a woman just as I can't say anything about how it is to be a man. I never assumed anything. You did.
All I'm asking you to do is backup what you said and not try to reduce men's struggles down to "misogyny, because it's not about women."
@MCheetah Never did. You sure did it with women though.
The trick is to *not* match what he portends of women, because it supports his position.
@ivegotnoname
"what kind of awful human being wouldn't care about another person's struggles?"
We refer to them as "women:".
@joeblow123 I talk for myself and not on behalf of all women. I suggest you do that same.
@ivegotnoname
I don't take suggestions or orders from your gender. That is something you and your gender never forget.
@joeblow123 Well now you look like the asshole here. Move along.
@AllThatSweetJazz
Go fuck your mother. Now GTFO.
@joeblow123 Case in point.
@joeblow123 I can't imagine what your mother would think if she saw what you're writing here...