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For me, personally? No, not true. In general? Unsure.
My husband absolutely did not "have his shit together" when we met and some days it's questionable as to whether he does now lol
He starts his first job (ever) on September 1st and we've been married for 3 years, together for 10. I have worked the entire time and I've provided for us.
He graduated law school this past May and this job that starts in September is at a corporate-level "big law" law firm and so I understand that the perceived prestige that comes with being an attorney may discredit me with a number of people on here, but my husband would not have graduated without me. I was in the trenches with him, so to speak.
I worked full time as a police officer through a pandemic and riots that really hit my husband's mental health hard, made all the money, paid all the bills, scheduled all the appointments for his mental health crisis, and all but physically dragged him across the finish line to be able to graduate. I studied with him. I did 100% of everything for 3 years. And I am also getting my masters degree so on top of everything I managed to maintain a 4.0.
No "standing at the finish line" here. I ran that race with him. Every step. 😂
And, lowkey, I am experiencing my own mental crisis right now realizing that I will no longer be the only/primary provider after September. I'm so used to it and get so much of my self-worth from providing that the realization that my income is no longer "necessary" has kind of messed me up. So for anyone who is going to claim that I only did all of it because of the "financial payout"... uh, no. I lowkey hate it because it's causing me to have an identity crisis 😭😂😂😂
What would you say/do, if your husband was defending a person that you arrested?
@kingykringy He doesn't want to practice criminal law, thankfully lol but I don't actually think he could. It'd likely be a conflict of interest I think.
@Prettygurl12
It wouldn't be a conflict of interest if he worked in the District Attorney's Office.
@joeblow123 fair. But his job is in trust and estates so he's going to be doing wills and stuff.
@Prettygurl12 You're a wonderful person. I'm proud of you for all you have done. God bless you. You have gone above and beyond your call as a wife. You are a superwoman. I hope your husband knows how lucky he is.
I think men don't prioritize a girlfriend/relationship until they've reached a level of success.
Men tell themselves that they 'need' achievement to get or keep a partner, but really what they need is the conscious ability to 'be there' for a partner.
Both men and women are treated like a bitch at an entry to mid level job. You do grunt work, work weird hours, and are highly unappreciated. During this time,, most women still look for a relationship to have someone to grow with, cook with, split bills with, and create meaning outside of work.
Men at entry level jobs are much more likely to project their work frustrations onto their partner at home if they have one. They come home and complain for 1 hour before instead of asking how their partners day was. Or they come home, kick back,, and wait until they are hungry to think about dinner, instead of what their partner might want to eat.
This 'waiting game' with food and chores and social planning is what separates the boys from the men in my opinion. It's not about having success or a high paying job, it's about being a reliable team member for your partner, about taking the initiative on making life easier or more convenient for your partner. Oh and bringing affection and happiness.
If you give 110 to your job and have 'nothing left' for a relationship, you won't have a relationship. You have to find a way to give to your relationship each and everyday, not only when you feel like it.
Depends on who you are, and where you are in life. Early on, women go for looks and a challenge. When they get older and smarter, they look for a man who is worth more than herself. She will hardly marry down, with so few antidotal exceptions, and she will and now has the power to change partners on a whelm if his struggles outweighs his benefit. If you don't believe that, just look up who overwhelmingly seeks out divorce.
All of this will be dismissed as gold diggers, but that concept is just the extreme. Most women are predictable. Once they are ready and able to have a family, they will seek out proven earners to make that desire and dream a reality. Everytime. Just look up baby rabies.
This is 99.99% true statement. Men and women are different. Women will never understand men's struggles. This has been there for millions of years, does the female lion mate with the potential alpha or with the alpha when he has replaced the old alpha of the tribe? And repeat that with chimps, and humans in stone age times. In fact, until recently, only a small fraction (10-40%) of men got to mate, whereas nearly all women got to mate. It has always been a simple transactional exchange between a man's provisioning and a woman's sexual exclusivity.
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I tend to go for the boys with “the broken wings”. Ones that are down bad, maybe because a dark part of me relates, I try to make them more confident and feel better about themselves. This has happened to me multiple times. It starts off great and our relationship is healthy. Then the guy would develop this power dynamic. I’d get used as a trophy. They’d use their new found confidence to become this douche bag stereotype. The sweet person I met would be gone. It would start with them like slapping my ass in front of their mates to be like “yeah I have a girlfriend”. Then start pressuring me sexually. I wouldn’t put out because I want commitment before anything like that happens. They’d then proceed to cheat on me, trash me, and slut shame me. One actually sexually assaulted me in front of his best friend. Those “broken wing” guys turn into monsters when you give them any sort of social foot up in the world. I don't know why. I realised then there’s probably a reason why people didn’t like them and they failed before. I just had too much empathy for these people. The quiet, shy, insecure guys. I used to be pretty popular with people. I had a good reputation. Every guy I helped out of the mud with my love and attention would take a part of me away. Next thing I knew they were the “popular successful guys” and I was the “easy to fuck whore” (I was a virgin). I guess the step up from dating a popular girl is being the ballzy cunt who thinks he’s cool enough to trash her. by the way this very situation has happened 5 times.
How exactly where you making them confident this story is intresting and I am quite curious to know
@MCheetah honestly, adults are hardly different. I’ve had 20-40 year olds try to fuck with me and they’re just down right disturbing. They’re so immature. Men don’t grow up here. Still getting involved in highschool drama and talking shit.
@Aakash_Hangargi I would sit there and listen. Let them vent. Give them advice. When ever they were upset I’d make sure I was there to comfort them. I stood up to anyone who picked on them. I was always loyal. I gave them physical affection.
@Jaaanellie
Well, assuming you're as sweet as you claim you are (everyone always thinks that about themselves; who knows) then you'll have no problem getting the right person for you who'll appreciate you (though I assume they have to be 6'3" and up). Your profile says you're engaged, so maybe you're already with someone who deserves a supportive woman anyway. I can assure you very, VERY few of them exist in modern society. Not that humanity is general is a great species.
@MCheetah ummm no? I don’t give a shit about height. I’ve dated a guy who is 5 foot 8. You just seem a bit cooked honestly. I was literally just saying how I have a flaw of going for “broken wing” guys because I don’t feel comfortable with stereotypical “hot boys”. I said that I did my best to help them and then they screwed me over. I am engaged but we have our problems at the moment.
@MCheetah you’re acting like the majority of women are evil when they really aren’t
@Jaaanellie
Honestly, I think the majority of PEOPLE suck. Women and men. Really wish I could be proven wrong by someone.
This guy can't get laid, that's all
@MCheetch just cheer up the world isn’t that bad
I mean you're 18 and already taking about 5 guys in this specific situation. You know why people might see you as an easy grab?
@Hallo626262 funny how you immediately assume I slept with all of them. I literally did not. However, when I get fucked over I just leave and move on as soon as possible. I’m not a “grab”. The first person was when I was 15. Next lasted 3 months when I was 16. The other lasted 9 months. One was a friend who I tried to help but he just decided to shit on me because I didn’t want to date him. The other lasted 1 year and 9 months and we’re re still together but have issues.
@Aakash_Hangargi I would sit there and listen. Let them vent. Give them advice. When ever they were upset I’d make sure I was there to comfort them. I stood up to anyone who picked on them. I was always loyal. I gave them physical affection.
I can understand other things but this I am not able to
I stood up to anyone who picked on them
That's a confidence killer for any guy standing up for them infront of others in public is confidence and ego killer.
Is there anything else like how you built confidence in them bc I am really not understanding how comforting can build confidence yes if upset they can be cheered.
But 5 guys became so confident that they ditched you?
Were you there friend or girlfriend at that point of time why was it that after getting confidence they did that like any idea see if all 5 means there would be a pattern right
And I have never seen people getting this confident like almost magically as explained by time period you helped them
@Askash_Hangargi Three were people I dated. One was a friend who was obsessed with me. And one is a guy I’m still with. I can stand up for people because it’s in my nature. I’m sick of this whole “emasculation” bullshit. If a guy is so triggered about a girl needing to step in they’re weak piece of shit. Y’all seem so damn fragile I swear. You can’t act tough and then act out like a child when you don’t perfectly fit some strange socially constructed profile of “masculinity”. Like literally masculinity can be so many things.
People like you are why so many women are done with the majority of men. It’s a pain. A burden. Everyone bitches about how women are sensitive but the moment the male social construct is slightly damaged y’all are prepared to destroy whole ass relationships and act like children. I really don’t see the point in any of it. I hear the whole “men make women feel safe” but nah. They don’t. Making someone feel safe has to do with the person feeling scared to being with. “Men are providers”. Then why do so many complain about working and call women gold diggers? Like do you want to be a provider or not? If men believe they should be then every woman should technically be a gold digger because they’re pursuing the best provider. “Men should be alpha”. Which basically translates to being an emotionally unstable toxic mess that can’t commit to a single relationship and is so self absorbed that everything is about power not love. “Men need to feel wanted” like uhhh no you’re not a puppy who I’m going to give fake compliments to that aren’t deserved. Not really a trade off I can appreciate. That’s why I’m done with dating now.
Lol you went into completely different direction.
I was focusing only on the confidence part what I said was yes for any man a girl standing up for him is emasculating unless his younger to you it's not about you being strong or protecting him it's about him not being to defend himself and on top needed to he saved it's not how it works in men's world sorry to say that it's more destructive and a blow to him.
That person would be teased and shitted around more
One must enable people that wouldn't make the help look like act of mercy
Coming to the part of provider you don't have to be an alpha to be a provider you can reach a certain height of success being the alpha but it's still makes it to be completely necessary.
Broken guys could be broke from inside from many things heartbreak and shy guys are not broken they are just mush balls from inside that don't show there true feelings.
Being pretentious about masculinity is for society a man can be macho outside but when his with you his himself but when you both in social setting some boundaries must be respected have you ever seen a guy interfering in girl fights weak and strong is something different but there is self respect inside each person.
Anyways I was just wondering how fast they gained confidence I wonder what else or in how you encouraged them that's is all j wanted to know
Just here for the wisdom. Personally I admire Jaaanellie for her kindness to the male gender. She should also know men problem spiral beyond need for support and a little kindness. Some of them are born cute, broken and all kinds of wrong. They look like stray puppies but the moment you take them in, they turn wolves. Which is why whoever says pray before you love, was the wisest person, I wager.
@Jaaanellie no Ody wants to be a provider. Pay for your own shit.
Maybe go for guys you find attractive and stop with your mommy complex?
I would say women mostly want men who have all their eggs in a row but it depends on which stage of life they are both in and the potential the man has.
For example what 20yrs expect from each other is different from what 35-40yrs expect.
In your 20s you're starting to build the life you want and explore the different options of stability and development so females would look for the potential in you, whether are not you are compatible with their success and if you're able to achieve more.
In the middle ages, you'd be expected to have a mature mindset, own something, be able to guide and direct. Know what you want and how to get it, etc.
Everyone wants to have their shit together, but that takes time. Women do not wait till the finish line and I am not sure if you are at this point and someone tried to connect with you or a single woman said you don’t have your shit together, so are cannot be together. This can also mean many things. If you still care about playing games and acting like a kid at your age, I consider that not your shit together. I just expect my partner to have a focus, a dream, something that drives them to do better. Yes I have a house and a new car I bought on my own, but I pushed myself to get this far so young. I had no help. I am still working on getting things together, but that is my goal. Not anyone else’s.
There's a thing. Women has the instinct of trying to take care of the person that they like. So, that's why there're so many women who are with the guys who don't deserve them, and treat the women in a shitty way. Those women are at there, cause they think if they help those losers will change eventually, which almost never happens. Instead of the change, those guys blame the women, saying, "But that's how I am. Why don't you want love me the way I am? I won't change myself for you. You should understand me. " or some similar bullshits like that.
That's why wise women try to get the winner from the beginning, so that they wouldn't want to change anything about them, and love the way they are.
Both you and @Coulis have a point. But I think you've adopted a stereotype based on fear. Not all guys are like that, ok?
@Jamie05rhs i wholeheartedly agree with you. I have always been taught to come from a place of fear with men and my experiences with them haven't done much for me to let go of that.
The issue wasn't not being open but having boundaries.
I never set them properly. So yes I am jaded and cynical but I will learn to let go of it and let pryaer, boundaries and intuition take care of the rest.
@Coulis 👍🙂♥️
Adopted a stereotype based on fear? huh? what do you mean by that?
Not all guys are like that? what?
I'm not following.
Do you think guys who aren't for you wouldn't try to change themselves as you want is a stereotype?
And what do you mean by fear? The fact that they tend not to change is my knowledge.
@Jamie05rhs not mine. That's what I've observed. Guys think they can change when they try. And even for the last moment, what they say is that they've tried. But I haven't seen this "trying" was enough to be thought as "changed". For instance, my friend's boyfriend rarely texted my friend (once in 3days), busy spending time with guys. He promised her that he'll change. But even when he tried, he texted my friend once in a day, while me or other friends' boyfriends/dates answered us back whenever we texted. And when time passed, instead of changing, he got annoyed by the fact that he put much effort while being unappreciated fully. My friend dumped him, and made a new boyfriend who doesn't have that issue. And now she seems pretty much happy, not like the past.
The point is that guys are human beings too. Either it's for guys or for girls, changing isn't easy. My friend could have changed herself a person who doesn't contact her boyfriend much, but didn't. And demanded her boyfriend to change himself. Changing isn't easy. And only few would do it, and even fewer would make it.
Thus, getting the guy who is a winner for you is a wise thing to do.
Well, hopefully he will change eventually. Because otherwise he's never going to have a good relationship.
I would say overall YES.
I think it has to do with how hot they find you. A woman will date or even marry a broke man that they think is super hot. And have babies with him. But if you are average looking or below, you have to bring more to the table. Aka a good career and money.
That being said, most women will get tired of the broke hot guy eventually, and look for some guy that is more well off when shit starts to get real.
But I should also say, this is usually only very attractive women, women that are more average looking will be more accepting and willing to build. Just as more average men are less likely to cheat and be loyal.
All a woman has to offer is her vagina. She has doesn't struggle for anything in a gynocentric society. Women have no problems, women have no difficulties. Just having a vagina makes them the most privileges living being in this universe and they still complain about how hard life is. How many times you as a man had a woman telling you things like "you're such baby, you're so negative, this is nothing, don't be so cheap" they dont respect your struggle because they dont know what it means to struggle. That's why they think that everything just happens.
That's usually true, but the woman on the left "Tayshia Adams" may be the one exception I've ever seen to that.
She seems to genuinely love guys that have had all kinds of problems.
She loves to talk about their sob stories and wallow in it.
It's funny you used her as an example. 😅
I figured but it looked like they were waiting so I used the pic.
Agreed! Why do most women wait at the finish line? There is a reason why nice guys finish last. Almost any woman that tells you they want a genuine date or whatever is just total horseshit.
They only care about how much money you make. That’s it. And probably what race you are sometimes, just to rub salt into the wounds.
Total fail.
I won't don't worry.
Because clearly nothing of value can ever come from a conversation with you.
It wouldn't even be a dispute. But not for the reason you think.
Funny I was thinking the same thing.
This is the fact of being female out here they always wanted the best
In 99% you see this only hand full women out there who really supportive and helping struggling guy
Have you ever seen this struggling guy is surrounded by group of ladies and begging to be my guy pleaaaase ,, you will never see this ,, only pure heart will be there to put his struggle on the way of success or whatever out Come gona be,,
Most of female who do pick winner never seen their parents or sibs or cousin struggling , if they have seen this they would never been picky
No, in my opinion the journey and successes we make together is way more important than their individual successes. As much as the guys on this poll want to believe we are all selfish b*tches, it simply isn't true.
Who hurt you as a child?
Let's put it this way. If a few guys on here show themselves to be sexist *ssholes am I allowed to then project that on to all men?
How about this one, a majority of all reported rape cases are perpetrated by men. Is it ok to say all men are rapists?
Of course not. You had a few bad experiences or read too many messages boards and or have enough actual life experience to know it that your statement is blatantly false.
I wouldn't be with a guy at all, but I mostly wouldn't care about his body either. I want honesty, a sense of humor, someone who can show affection to me, generally have the same morals I do, and is just a compassionate person.
The only guy in this world I ever developed those kinds of feelings for, had those things for the most part, but im not sexually attracted to men and wouldn't have been able to give him that part of the relationship. Not once did money ever enter the equation.
It also played no part in my interest in my wife either. In fact when we first moved in together we REALLY struggled financially (like $25 a month was all we could put towards groceries without needing to take from a different bill). Now im super blessed to be in a great paying job and she is as well. We are very comfortable. The journey getting their made us stronger going on 19 years together now.
It would have been no different had it been a guy.
Oh hun, bless your ignorant little heart. Nowhere in the title does it mention men and yet your 3rd grade level of reading comprehension failed to recognize that. Now there is an ever so slight reference in the comment about men, but that doesn't directly apply to the question. Instead you got your underoos in a bunch and had to go posting a comment on my part of the thread and, better yet, be insulting. What exactly is that going to net you?
Scorn and humiliation.
So let's play this game because it is the weekend and I have time to really go all in on you here.
The question was do you agree the women don't care about your struggles. As a woman I think I'm uniquely qualified to answer this as opposed to you who's only real experience with women was the social worker who brought you in after your mom left you behind.
Now see, my original assessment was correct. I do care about people's struggles. For example, I am here trying to educate you since you seem utterly incapable of doing it yourself and our education system has failed you. I don't blame you for your failings here. As I mentioned, it is the journey that makes this worth it and im ready to take that journey with you to help you understand how to be a functioning adult in society as opposed to a whining, entitled brat.
Would you like to take this journey of self enlightenment or do you want to just keep your head up your *ss a little longer?
@Hanmakev it's the opposite. Most women, specially today, are working to be independent.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 no they have to because more men aren’t simping only a few really want to be independent they portray it as being fun or the best thing a girl could do for herself when it’s not only a few women want what you people call independence
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 suckers work the media tries to glorify female independence but a lot of them hate working ever work with women all they do is complain if most people had the option they’d rather have someone else take care of them it’s not called THE REAL WORKING INDEPENDENT BITCHES OF MIAMI FOR A REASON ITS CALLED HOUSEWIVES!
I'm usually way more eloquent in my responses and love to debate with facts and statistics.
Today just isn't that day.
You are an ignorant twat.
If you are a troll, you are an awful one and still an ignorant twat.
If this is how you really see women in this world, then you are pathetic and also an ignorant twat.
@Hanmakev only a few? Not even close. Where are you from? Here most women from my generation want their independence.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 No dude I’m talking about human nature it doesn’t matter where I’m from most people would take the easy way out than do something themselves
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 what does independence mean to you?
@Hanmakev Aww hun, you don't get to talk on my thread. This is the adult table and you aren't invited to speak unless I give you permission to, child.
@ TIMO8 we've always wanted our independence, otherwise women's suffrage would have never been a thing along with every other women's rights movements. Unfortunately there are still certain man-children in this world who get scared by empowered women.
@Hanmakev human nature? Humans worked since ever. Both men and women.
Independence to me is having your own job, being able to cook, clean, etc. Many men are not as much as they think they are.
@Hanmakev see what @ez-bri-z is saying? They always wanted their independence. They were not allowed to for a long time. Now they are and they are making most of it. Today the majority of college graduates are women.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 okay me and you obviously have different definitions of independence because you and a bunch of others seem to believe independence is basic survival skills etc.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 so people aren’t lazy? They don’t lie? Cheat? Steal? Look for the easy way out? Women rather be catered to than work for their own
60% of women are part of the workforce and men sit at 72% prior to the pandemic. That doesn't even account for the ones who have stayed in "traditional" relationships and as a couple have decided she would be the one staying home to take care of the house and children which is much longer than an 8 hour job.
So please get your nonsense out of here unless you can show actual data.
@Hanmakev what is your definition of independent?
Sure people do that. But if that was all there was we would still be living in caves. People also want to be accomplished and have their lives
Timo8, he obviously has no clue what he is talking about, but he loves to pretend he does.
The literal definition is exactly what we have referred to. It is either freedom from another's control or not depending on someone else's livelihood. With women in the workplace they are already meeting that standard.
@ez-bri-z I love to argue with people like him. They actually think that woman did nothing over the history. Yet @hanmakev did you know that women Nazi German invaded Russia women and men volunteered at the same ratios? Yes the first Nazi lost in the war was against a army made almost half of women. A women pilot even got the record for the number on Nazi plains killed in a single flight.
Paraguay had a leader that had a Napoleon complex to the point the declared war to three neighbor countries at the same time. Thank to him by the end half of the male population in the country died. Women did it all to rebuild it. They worked in everything from construction to mining. After the big world wars similar happened on the most affected countries.
Women can fill the men role in society. They historically speaking they have done it. And prove they can.
@Hanmakev so to you a Tarzan like individual is the only independent one. No one wishes that. In fact that would not be considered an objective by anyone.
One, in modern society, an idea independent person fits our description.
Timo8,
Speaking of women in the ww2, let me introduce you to one of the best female snipers in history with over 300 confirmed kills. She was so good that the nazis tried to convince her to defect sides.
When she got back from doing all this she still had to put up with bullshit from people like Hanmakev here.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 You saying that only proves my point that people don’t want to be independent you could live a life where you do everything yourself you don’t want to though you just wanna do some stuff yourself and pay someone to do everything else
@hanmakev you are pretty much still a kid, especially for the US.
You will be at college at a guess and know pretty much nothing about the real world.
I appreciate you likely get all your information about women from GaG and Reddit, however when you actually become a proper adult, you might find out stuff. I mean, if I have it right, in the US, they have just trusted you enough to have alcohol.
Get a few years under your belt.
@Hanmakev you definition of independence is a major downgrade. People live is society. And being independent mean taking care of yourself within that society.
@ez-bri-z I’ve noticed a lot on here, kids basically trying to say they know more than adults who have lived this shit.
Most of them have likely not started shaving and think Fallopian tubes are a ride at a theme park.
Quite laughable actually.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 you can do that without the assistance of other but you and many others again don’t want or aren’t able to you depend on other people because y’all can’t do everything for yourself a lot like children
@Hanmakev me and many others? Dude literally no one can do that. Anyone that so much as uses electricity need others.
@Hanmakev I was pretty much doing the same,
So I call bollox.
You are a kid basically.
When you grow up and understand the real world, get an education etc,
Then feel free to comment.
I mean you likely have not even left the state,
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 anyone can live like that you don’t want to
@Hanmakev yes there is but you simply do not at your age know if.
Unless you somehow managed to gain 20 years experience, you are like any other 21 yr old kid,
I mean since it’s the US, have you even had sex?
@Hanmakev I can be ageist if I want,
I grew up in an inner city environment, one of the hardest learning things to put up with.
We were having sex and relationships from circa 13.
How many actual relationships with women have you actually had?
It’s used a lot on here, I personally hate it but will use it here.
What’s your body count then?
You are commenting on stuff that is pretty much outside of your young age.
To adults, it’s a bit like a fly buzzing around.
I mean, my wife was legally emancipated at 16 had a full time job and still went to school. Life is full of people who learned from a young age how to grow up before their time. That isn't the point here. The point is you haven't had enough experience around people in life to make an informed judgment like yours about women.
You have barely started scratching the surface of understanding women, but I promise with attitudes like that, it will be the closest you ever get to the surface of any woman.
@Hanmakev you do?
@Hanmakev oh so what is your degree in?
The one you have not yet finished?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 your the ones claiming so many people want independence and I’m telling you they don’t
@Hanmakev you are unable to remember in a 12 month period what your actual number is?
How many clinic appointments did you have for those 18 women?
Respect, that’s some going that many girls in 12 months.
Obviously you really struggle on the relationship side of things then.
Then again with that number under your belt, I would have thought you would have been in full agreement with this question, you are obviously a prime piece of meat
@Hanmakev so you are that intelligent you cannot even get in to college….
I thought in the US, a big red flag for guys was not making college, sort of like being a failure?
Wrong I admit, but at least you are making more money than anyone that you went to school with, which to be fair will true, as erm they are at college still.
@Hanmakev the men around you?
So you are that intelligent, that you are going to base your entire life on what happens to others?
You do know just how stupid that sounds?
Other people have problems so I will give up and join them, I will also become a woman hater, but still fuck girls each month.
Just from what you have said over last few replies, points at you having some major mental health problems.
Unable to make own decisions, follows others directions, does not commit to relationships, is in to major sleeping around without any commitment, is focused on casual sex with I would guess with strangers.
That is text book mental health issues, seriously and not pissing around, describe those to any counsellor snd they will reach for their appointment diary.
Luckily you don’t hate women or that would be police profiling
@Hanmakev shhh child
Grown ups are talking
❌ wrong response there kiddo.
I am not the girl who is going to put up with you being sexist. Those kinds of responses go to the trash with the rest of your opinions.
Also, for someone who was supposedly ignoring me, you are doing a very poor job of it.
I know you can still see what I put even if you block me. There isn't a wise thing about you. You have multiple adults here confirming you have no clue what you are talking about, but like a child you continue to stomp your foot and say "no, I know better."
The fact is, you don't. I hope you do learn the lesson one day and look back to this moment and say "God I was an idiot back then." I hope that because at least it means you learned and matured. It happens to most adults. We think we know everything as teens and young adults and then we get to where we are and we learn we barely knew a thing.
And then when you do get to that point, you are going to run into a child acting just like you are and they are going to do the same thing to you. Life is cyclical as long as we continue to let it be.
@Hanmakev I am not twisting what you said,
You follow others - you said that,
You do not base your life on your own experience but what others tell you,
You sleep around A Lot - you said that.
You are unable to get in to college.
You live on your own.
You obviously do not like women and have no respect for them,
From what you said:
Too many women are selfish bitches and women like you try to let them off the hook by saying only some women are like that when it’s not true most women are extremely selfish bitches.
Did you get on well with your own mother or where their ‘problems’?
You very obviously have major mental health issues.
Was this one of the reasons you failed to get in to college?
Did any one those 18 girls pick up on it?
I would 100% say that that the majority of women will pick up with those points above, I really believe you will struggle to hold down a relationship, I see divorce in your future and a woman walking away with a chunk of cash.
@Hanmakev you said all that stuff in your replies.
I suggest you reread it all.
100% you said it.
Sleeping around is 18 people in 12 months without a relationship.
What would you say to a girl if she had 18 sexual partners in a year without a relationship?
I would like a reply to that last question?
What would you think of her?
@Hanmakev Your definition of independence is an independence outside of society.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 no it’s not your just so dependent on others that you can’t see it
@Hanmakev yes, that is what being in society means. Literally no one can fulfill your definition of independence while living in society.
Of course not living in society and chosing to live alone is a massive downgrade. So when people talk in self independence they talk about independence within society. Because even in society one can be fully dependent on others. Chosing to be independent means chosing to be only reliant in yourself while in society.
@chrismaster69 if I wanted to go troll hunting at 4:00 post meridian traveling at 100kph and the troll was doing 60kph, what time would I catch him. Heh college degree
@PrettyPriya lmao is that with or without wheelbarrow assistance
@ChrisMaster69 well trolls are naturally slow (🧠) but let us consider this one is independent 🤔
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 first off stop saying no one can because everyone can people just don’t want to and bring independent doesn’t mean you live alone someone can live in modern society and be completely independent why you can’t fathom that I do not know
You can't be completely independent in society. Have a job? Cool, you are depending on a company to give you money.
The definition literally reads as:
not depending on another for livelihood or subsistence.
The minute you take a job, you are now no longer dependent. I am going to guess those colleges were not going to pay you to come learn from them so then that money for tuition had to come from somewhere, which again makes you dependent.
I guess you should have taken them up on their offer for further education. You are proving you needed it with each new post you make
@ez-bri-z he apparently depends on little girls to give him hjs. Just sayin 🤷♀️
Unfortunately he has mentioned elsewhere
Look under Mzash response. Freely admits twice
Oh gross...
So does that explain why women frighten him and he has been so dismissive of me in here? Is it because I am not some grade 8-9 girl who thinks it is awesome I'm seeing some guy who walked by a college once so he has world experience?
Ugh, I never had that phase of the dark and mysterious man sweeping me off my feet thank God.
Those poor, poor underage girls.
I know 🤦♀️ Just wanted to give you one more bullet.
@Hanmakev no you can't live in modern society and be independent to the level you describe. You really can't. You always need to have a citizenship by law. The very moment you are born you are given one. And that has implications.
Let's say you try. You throw your ID away. You go to some woods and you build your house, hunt for food, etc. Then one day people go on vacations to camp near the place you are, they see you, feel unsafe, call the cops and they will ask you for ID. Don't have it? Jail.
That is if you find woods that are not private property. Most of them are and the owners will kick you out fast.
You can't escape this.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 that was a made up unrealistic scenario answer me this do you own a home or land period?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 and how much of the law are you familiar with?
@Hanmakev yes I do own some terrain why?
I know it enough why?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 he is complete trash. @ez-bri-z and yourself established that he is a twat. Excuse my unladylike language. He replied to one of my posts laughing because it was funny yet said he had to dislike it. 🤷♀️
@hanmakev it's not unrealistic. If you are born in a society, you will have papers as soon as you are born.
And over your life, let's say you live to be 80 at some point in time, eventually, the society you live in will interact with you in some way even if you live deep in the woods.
@PrettyPriya I know he is, but I have fun educating people like him. To me is part of the fun of this site.
Just hope I am not bothering anyone with the notifications.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 he hates women. And now we shred any thread of an argument and he keeps going. What a dumb fucking twat.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 not me at all. Hoping he will engage, if he understands there are multiple definitions of the word, me in conversation. I am highly intelligent and was brought up in an ultra wealthy family that gave me an excellent education. I will shred that little bitch. In Hindi if I have to. Wonder how many languages he speak other than English and independent? 😂
@PrettyPriya deep down he already knows he was wrong. He is just clinging to a false definition of independence in a desperate attempt to prove a point he himself doesn't believe in. At least I hope he doesn't or else he is even more out of reality then I thought.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 educate yourself and perceive beyond what is then you will see the folly of your parochial mind
@Hanmakev You are the uneducated one here.
@ez-bri-z bingo!
There exist the type of girls that you just mentioned about but in minority and if they start to increase then this women will only be gold diggers in ones sense coz today also they get fucked by n number of guys and do the same thing what you mentioned in question.
Hope their population doesn’t increase. These are also disgrace to the society in general coz they are the one who condemn mens to approach girls with sexual fantasy only and they do the same in female avatars. Awareness will do the great job here.
No I don´t because if you were honest to yourself you wouldn´t want a woman who has no plan for her life who is still looking for a job and who´s struggling with keeping her shit together. So if you don´t have a life already and if you can´t handle basic things like cooking for yourself, tidying up you shouldn´t start dating.
Lol.
In my experience, the girl who is willing to rode through the thin always gets thrown aside so he can level up to the girl who only will look at him when he's in the thick.
When she sucks him dry he stays kicking himself for discarding the girl who found him worthy and saw his potential.
Because he saw her as worthless for liking him - even loving him - when he saw himself as worthless for not having money.
So over it.
This is the single biggest reason I can't trust women.
In my younger days women wouldn't even cross the street to spit on me. Now older and with a 7 figure net worth all of a sudden their attitude has changed about me... I'm sure it has. Lol
So now I just entertain them till they get frustrated that I'm not making a commitment. Then it's " next"!
Every single one of those that approaches you for your money is not a high quality woman.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 agreed man. But they don't tell you I'm just here for your money. How can I trust any woman given my history. Which is why I'm fine to wait. A lot of women ( decent women even) seem to be in kind of a hurry. In a hurry to get a ring to get the man on lockdown. I mean I get that they fear other women predators.
No, not at all. This is silly, because what even is a "winner"? In what? How is it defined? Is it code for, "the one who makes the most money by climbing the corporate ladder"? Well, that's not my idea of winning, let me tell you that!
I want someone who is open, honest, and an overall decent human being, not a corporate psychopath, a drone who just works, works, works all the time!
Open and honest? Ha! What a joke.
So many ego inflated trashy girls say that but when I start talking about drug testing, FBI background checks, and NSA polygraphs, they're suddenly way too good for me with other guys being much much better.
One of the last girls I met claimed to be a deeply religious devout christian and I even went to church with her a few times. I'm not a christian but have read a stack of bibles and one Koran cover to cover. Seemed strange how she knew nothing about her faith until I discovered she had an abortion, has a problem with alcohol, and regularly runs off with a drunk married f*__ buddy living down the street from her with his wife. Public records revealed that she has a restraining order against her.
Girls lie like hell.
@TS-Byeman you clearly met a not so good one.
@TS-Byeman Well, can you blame them for thinking they're too good for you, with your drug issues, FBI record and polygraphs?
Definitely not my experience.
however what you put is Exactly what an Alpha male type society is.
The men struggle and fight, those that survive and come out on top get picked, the waste don’t.
If anything blame this thing where guys push an Alpha type soceity.
I want to be able to pull that apart I really do because I want to believe women aren't that shallow, but It's hard to argue with, it really is.
A few of my friends haven't been as fortunate as me or as blessed, or worked hard either for that matter and they are alone now.
I try and help them get g/f but they just aren't interested in them
Are your friends over 40 still living with their mother?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 2 are. 1 does so because he can't afford to move out, the other does so because he's looked after his mother since his dad died.
It's been true my life. Women say things like "I want to build an empire with my man" but then won't date any guy who doesn't already have his empire built.
Mine certainly wants to build that empire with me.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I'm glad you've been lucky enough to find someone like that. I hope it works out for you.
Hope you find a person like that too.
Women will deny but their actions align perfectly with that statement. Bitches working a 9 to 5 at a gas station will complain that their man doesn't make 6 figures, it's sad, most entitled people to ever exist
Do you really hear that from them or are you making it up?
I think its 50/50 on this. Yes there are woman who are like this and only care about the winners and their status. But there are also woman who care about the person itself instead of the status. Sadly the "status" woman are more visible because they are mostly the "populair" ones.
Women don’t care about a guys struggles due to the fact they believe a man should have everything in order to make their life easier. That’s why they choose the bread winner, the Alpha’s. That’s why women cheat when the next best thing come around for them to snatch up.
If that was how the women you met in your life acted you had a shit luck with women. Most of them are not like that.
Yea, not me, dude. Just seen my friends and family get with shit women that act like that. I don’t let a women get beside themselves with me. I’ll leave a woman where she’s at if she tries me. I have no patience for out of line women that tries to run me. Not a yes man, never will be. Besides, I have a very good career, good friends, good life and can care less about impressing a woman with a shit attitude. Life to short.
You need to find one that is not a bitch, but has something going on. Those are the best ones.
No, having emotional difficulties or something you're struggling with isn't gonna scare of women. In most cases the emotional part actually attracts them. Though you still need to have your shit together true but a couple holes in the wall isn't gonna stop em from moving in :)
I disagree ( as a teenager) yea I want him to have his shit together but I’m not gonna just wait for him to get there unless it’s a serious mental issue that he or any issue period that he wants to go through by himself and he’s told me that, otherwise he’s going to find my ass right next to him either emotionally or physically. Hell maybe even on a mentally since I know that shit hurts when it feels like you can’t change it.
That is why I don't care about women. I've seen them get slapped around by men and I don't give a fuck. They don't give a fuck about us why should I care about them.
Does anyone really care about 'struggles'?
I can't be around women who whine and complain about their lives. Most of them come from rich backgrounds and have no perspective.
USA needs to start caring for it's labour force.
In the mean time
Here is some unsolicited advice
You won't like this but sooner or later you need to think just a little bit more like a woman.
YOU need to start waiting at the finish line and picking the winners.
Not that true.
But women do tend to date up.
Of course they would like a winner, but they are happy with somebody too who is doing pretty good.
Most women would not want somebody who is worse off than them. Nothing wrong with that, just human nature. Women want a provider and security, somebody they respect.
B. Not all women want to be a prize for being successful in life. I'd rather start from the bottom and build a rock solid relationship with someone that knows we struggle mutually and share in the good and the bad.
Well I’m in corporate, so why would I go for someone who wants? As a woman you want someone who is equal or a provider. Why would I date a homeless guy?
That is if I was going to date. I am not.
@emilym12345
That is why I do not step in when a man is attacking a woman. I figure she is probably a narcissistic bitch anyway so why intervene for a woman like that.
Even if someone is a narcissistic bitch it’s still wrong to beat someone
@emilym12345
Even if he is far from perfect doesn't mean that he should be written off as "undateable".
@joeblow123 that doesn't make sense. So everyone is "dateable"? Go grab yourself a homeless lady if you want, but I think your statement is laughably, obviously, untrue. In fact, I think plenty of people who DO have their shit together are still "undateable", or at least not someone I would want to date.
Of course, on the the flip side, we should do our best to treat others with dignity and respect, but there's a difference between that and dating them.
@zeitgeist057
What I said to whathername is what I said to whathername. She is a big girl she can answer for herself,.
@joeblow123 what I said to you I said to you, and if you're a big boy feel free to answer. Is there something you need explained to you about the public forum format here?
@zeitgeist057
We're not talking about literal dating. Dating and protection in this case are metaphors that represent true equality. Something men value and something women value. If we don't matter to them they don't matter to us.
Well I really value my career, obviously not all women are like this. I would want someone who values their career as well.
Some does some other's doesn't.
As it appears there are more that doesn't.
Always be aware of that many tries to appear they are.
It's to appear in a good light even if they aren't. stereotypical female behavior amongst those that are insecure in certain ways mixed with attitude problems with that.
Some are but some definitely aren’t. Women should be qualifying a man who at least has his shit together. He doesn’t necessarily have to be super good looking or rich but comfortable and maintains a healthy well rounded lifestyle.
That would be a foolish mistake on her part if she’s looking for best overall. Looks and money are only a small portion of what makes a quality man. His attitude and behavior should weigh the most. If not then she’s setting herself up for disappointing short term flings with sub par behaving fuckboys.
I don't have my shit together and certainly don't expect a guy to have either. I do however expect to be prioritised in his life and to feel wanted and accepted as I am, and I will gladly reciprocate.
That's generally right, but misses some details. Your struggles certainly matter to the extent that they demonstrate your ability to solve and weather multiple types of problems. Women (like all people) are forward looking and they want to make sure their man can deal with TOMORROW'S potential problems, so whatever you have that demonstrates your fitness in that regard will certainly help your cause.
There are a lot of ways to win besides becoming exceptionally wealthy. Besides, there are a lot more women than wealthy men. So you probably can't date a famous woman, but there are plenty of lovely women you can date.
Sort of.
Is there really a finish line though? It's more like they look at who is in farther long relative to how long they've been at it and just jump into the race with those guys at that point, and they also can step out of the race at their leisure as well if so desired. So not so much a finish line, but rather piggybacking onto whoever is ahead.
It's very true. There's a saying that goes "Behind every successful man is a woman." This is not because she helped him get there but because she waited and put herself there when he made his success.
There's no way to make a flat decision on that. Yes there's always people out there that only want the best themselves. But I've been with women that would carry me to the finish line if I was weak and couldn't make it. And I would do the same for them That's what you're supposed to have in your relationship. If someone isn't willing to do that they don't need to be in a relationship at all.
Who wouldn't want a winner.. No one gets turned on by a loser, so if she can't help you win, she should stand at the finish line for the one who wins. One should discredit her for that. Winners are the biggest turn on. Ask any truthful lady.
Newsflash: No one cares about your troubles but you.
I certainly wouldn’t disagree but that wasn’t the question.
Sure, if you believe all women are like bachelor actresses.
Of course we care about your struggles... what kind of awful human being wouldn't care about another person's struggles?
@Qdbrown Do not label things I say as "idealistic" just because I am young. You don't know anything about me.
@MCheetah... poll answers would suggest otherwise...
@Qdbrown... sure... not gonna argue with you... seems you have your own problems to deal with.
The poll is 60-40. In any case, it's irrelevant because you haven't been a single straight male in modern society who's less than a 9 out of 10.
I'm not trying to be rude or sexist, but women say bullshit 24/7. Like, it's scientifically proven women will say anything to avoid looking bad in public, and that they care about their reputations far more so than men, hence are a lot less honest. I just don't feel like bullshitting or mincing words today, so I'm just being blunt.
You could argue most HUMANS are selfish as fuck, in general, but men are typically the ones who society looks to to protect everyone else (women, children, and elders). Women never have to hold the weight of keeping their bosses, spouses, children, and neighbors happy. Most women can literally just get away with looking pretty and that's all society expects of them. Men have ten times the workload and don't even get so much as a fucking thank you for it all. Hence, why male suicides are like 9x greater than women's, and why femcels don't even exist.
Speaking of which, whenever men DO suffer, it's always women who are the first ones to shit on them. The "all men died, women most affected" meme. Women (and society, as a whole) think of men in terms of "what are you doing for me?" So excuse me if I'm a bit vocal when I talk about this, and tell others to cut the bullshit.
Yes, the poll is 60-40 but look at the gender divide. Why would over 80% of women answering this be lying? That just makes no logical sense. "Most women can literally just get away with looking pretty and that's all society expects of them" how the hell do you think that feels? Having society expect that the only thing you are capable of is looking pretty? I work hard every day to be the best I can be in my education and in my personal life, and I'm not gonna sit here and take this. I don't give a damn about whether people think I'm pretty or not.
"Why would over 80% of women answering this be lying?"
I literally already answered this. "Women will say anything to avoid looking bad in public, and that they care about their reputations far more so than men, hence are a lot less honest."
"How the hell do you think that feels?"
Now you're literally doing the same thing I just SAID women in general do. "Women (and society, as a whole) think of men in terms of 'what are you doing for me?' The 'all men died, women most affected' meme." This is a question about whether women care about men's struggles or not, and you're literally turning into shit about women and trying to make it into a woman's problem.
The only reason I am so annoyed at this because yes, I am one of those men who have struggled and dealt with fourteen years of depression, from age 17 to age 31. And I can confirm women in general don't give a flying fuck about men suffering, especially those who aren't conventional attractive looking or would make good husbands and financial providers. And I do find it pretty fucking insulting that some women can't even let men have the "yes, we suffer" thing without trying to fucking usurp it and make it all about them. It irks me how some women can't see how fucking selfish that is. That men can't even TALK about suffering without women making that shit all about THEM.
"Men don't suffer! How DARE you talk about women that way! Like we don't do anything for men! You misogynist! You're just an incel for thinking all women don't care about men! This is why we need feminism!"
@MCheetah Well yes, you did come off as very rude indeed, and you aren't sorry. You can't go around saying things about how it feels to be a woman just as I can't say anything about how it is to be a man. I never assumed anything. You did.
@MCheetah Never did. You sure did it with women though.
The trick is to *not* match what he portends of women, because it supports his position.
@ivegotnoname
"what kind of awful human being wouldn't care about another person's struggles?"
We refer to them as "women:".
@joeblow123 I talk for myself and not on behalf of all women. I suggest you do that same.
@ivegotnoname
I don't take suggestions or orders from your gender. That is something you and your gender never forget.
@joeblow123 Well now you look like the asshole here. Move along.
@AllThatSweetJazz
Go fuck your mother. Now GTFO.
@joeblow123 Case in point.
@joeblow123 I can't imagine what your mother would think if she saw what you're writing here...
Yeah but this is exactly why the traditional male approach of not showing (much) emotion & not needing women in order to reach your goals works best.
Ever heard of starter wife? Guys leave women who were there from start because of something natural like ageing and they think that they can do better and get hotter girls and someone with higher status
also heard of high school sweetheart? women who were dating them in the high school
Facts
From the guy standpoint, as he ages and if he acculamates massive wealth, even thousands of years ago in recorded history, a man often had many women.
The Romans even had a system. A wealthy man would have a wife that managed the home. Then he had a group of concubines he put up in homes that he would visit and then a slew of mistresses for quick impromptu visits.
Men have always been able to have recreational sex. This is nothing new. Modern marriage that showed up at the end of the 1800's is actually unnatural to men and women.
Now that men and women are equal, as go with their options. A woman will voluntarily leave to find a better partner just as fast as a guy.
It's almost laughable to think you will only be married once in any situation. Man or woman, your chances of having many partners is almost certain.
@Qdbrown Well firstly the Roman Empire fell for a reason. Many point to the degradation of their society. Monogamous relationships have existed at least for 1,000 years according to historical evidence. Wealth is a human construct. Monogamy has always been there. Men argue that their purpose is to be the protectors of their women and children. However, if a man isn’t loyal he’s evolutionarily worthless. It all seems like selfishness and greed. I’ve heard the argument that men are non-monogamous and women desire to keep one man. Sounds like an idealistic stag delusion. Men and women have equal sex drives. Men feel more “free” to have multiple partners because there’s a societal influence that encourages it. Men are applauded for sleeping around while women are slut shamed. We aren’t like monkeys. If we were then women would desire to live in a harem and not have an issue with the man lusting after other women within the harem. However, back then concubines of rich men were essentially classy prostitutes forced into that situation. Many men also seek out monogamous relationships. I think it’s all down to a difference in character.
You do realize over 80 percent of women file for divorce. Women leave their husbands not the other way around.
@cantgetitup 50% of marriages works. And let's say 80% of them end because women file for divorce. It's less than 80%, but let's say 80%. 80% of 50% is 40%. Literally half of what you said.
Don't agree at all.
Literally all my serious girlfriends helped me in way way or the other. And my wife now literally way there for me even when I lost my job.
Good women will be there for you. What you talk about are gold diggers.
There are women like that, and they are to be avoided at all costs.
I always liked the saying "Don't search for a princess that needs to be rescued, search for a queen that fights by your side."
I'm not a white knight but I disagree that "women" don't care about your struggles and only wait for you at the finish line. People in general are like that including myself I don't want to spend time with losers struggling at life, I prefer spending time with people who are better than me people who accomplished what I want to do.
The point is it depends on the person if they're a good person they'll care if not they won't 🤷♂️
It does not apply to all women. I was quite the work in progress when I met my wife. She married me anyway.
I don't worry if you care about my struggles. Just give me snuggles 🤷♀️
They say no but the real thing they are voting for is “stop making me sound like a shallow bitch”
Not all women are like that. I tend to go for broken boys and regret it later when they get confidence and fuck me over.
Wow that really sucks. Most likely though attracted to narcissistic guys and think they will be fixed. But they don’t. Try going for a guy that actually doesn’t have his shit together. Even tho women despise that. There won’t be any attraction. But you can find a really loving and humble guy that way. Without the superficial bullshit. Then learn what having shit together really means.
Nah I’m talking about below average looking losers that no one likes and suddenly when I date them they get attention and confidence. Then they fuck me over and take advantage of me.
I dated 2 guys who like didn’t talk at all and we’re too nervous to make eye contact with me
You’re really pretty. Most guys are really weak minded. Just being honest you are not the average chick. Goodluck I would love to be next but I plan to marry the next one
Yeah I could see that it would be a little intimidating especially for a young man
When a guy is really attracted their brain stops working, they already don’t know how to communicate with women if that’s the case... it takes practice and things that guys don’t get these days. Women that chime in to compete against you are just as much to blame. You’re giving value away. Don’t. Ty for responding
Then ended up as hyper confident douche bags who start screwing me over. What’s better than dating a girl? Having the balls to talk shit about her and slut shame her to “the boys” so you look like a big man… I swear it like escalates so fast. In a matter of months. I’ll give them so much love and attention despite their flaws. They’ll notice how they get attention for dating me. Then it fizzles. So they make up rumours about sleeping with me. Then sexually harassing me in front of their new friends. (Friends being guys I convinced not to bullying them anymore and give them a chance). Then they’d just cheat with a bunch of chicks. Then go to trash me some more.
Yeah I get what you’re saying. This one guy I just wanted to be friends with because I was soooo done with dating. He was the “ugly duckling” so he didn’t get laid but had close friends. He told everyone I was dating him and I didn’t know for ages. Then one day we were on the drinks and he just decided he was going to finger my half conscious body that could not consent. His friend was there and just watched. Next thing I know everyone’s gossiping about how we had sex and I’m a whore. I cut him out of the picture after. He got so mad he just trashed the hell out of me and I started getting threats from his mates.
I reckon the lack of experience combined with a sudden weird entitlement to me causes the issues
I can totally relate to that to be honest. So I feel bad. Especially about the sexual stuff I checked some of your threads. It’s not good. You’re doing well though but that damage is irreparable. However you can do even better. Don’t place so much trust in schooling and this other stuff. Don’t think you’re perfect even though you kind of are. Admit it was a mistake investing in these guys and forgive yourself for losing so much in the process. In the end you will come out with experience and humility to find someone good. I don’t wish for these bad things to happen to you. But they do come looking for the good people. Like sharks to a meal or like flies on shit. Bad people go after the good people and that is why there is so much crap to go around but barely any people like you
Yes this is just the start for you it could get much much worse. Please don’t let it. Be humble and figure out what’s important. It’s so hard to find good work and socialize now. You say you come from a good family. Try to appreciate and honor them as much as possible. I’m
Envious of the eastern woman on here she said in her country a guy in her family goes to get the prospective guy to see if he’s just fooling around. It’s not a bad idea otherwise guys will just hit on you to get laid in public all the time. Dress more formal and go for what you like. You won’t get attention but a mental strength will build that will weed out the weak guys you’re falling for
I guess my mistake was being too off put by successful guys. My friends have been cheated on heaps by them. In my mind confidence in men makes them dominant and entitled to multiple women. My naive mind thought that I could form better relationships with “weaker” men. A lot of the time I felt internal pressure to love them because no one else would.
I said that I come from good “genes” as in height, intelligence, and sporting ability. My dads a horrible man and like borderline insane. He’d beat my mother and I. He’s a narcissist, like diagnosed. My mother just sorta let it happen until the cops got involved. She’s very weak. On antidepressants. I guess I’m scared of ending up with someone like my father.
My dad was always that cocky popular jock guy. I’ve noticed men like that can’t handle the fact they’re not still in highschool.
Those men are not confident. Just full of shit. Don’t play into the game of liking guys that have a girl. A guy that has a girl is no more qualified or attractive or anything than a single guy. It means absolutely nothing. They are just arrogant guys that are manipulating. Don’t be insecure you know what you want and deserve. You might be thinking guys are winners cause they have girls especially pretty ones. Really they are just playing mind games and you are attracted to a loser the same way these other chicks are attracted to your now ex but with higher status loser.
My ex did the same shit to me she ruined my life going on 9 years to me. I did nothing but raise her value for 7 years at my own expense. Now I’m starting to get my power back after two years but she is still doing way better than she should be. Eventually I think it will work itself out. But times are pretty bad right now
Damn. See you have more problems than originally admitted. Good grades, sports and good looks is not everything. And the looks is worth even more. Now that you’ve humbled yourself we see that good things deserve more significance in life. Your dad might not be capable of love but you can show him and everyone else love now including yourself. And that might not seem like much but in reality it is very significant
Same. I struggle a lot with PTSD, anxiety, and depression. It got really bad around the age of 16. The adults in the situation made things sooo bad for me. I was a rowing girl. These guys were from rowing that I was talking about. The coaches and creepy adults started getting all horny about me. Saying I’m “easy” and “slutty”. Those rumours just spread into weird shit to hate on me because some girls were jealous of my attention even if it was negative. Next thing I knew I was prostitute, criminal, slut, and a horrible person. Someone went to my school to complain that I wasn’t rowing I was just fucking guys. Suddenly it was said that I had fucked every guy at rowing (I fucked none). I had the cops called on me for a fake suicide threat. I had parents following me around in my cars and spreading all this crazy shit. Like “so and so’s mom saw Janelle fucking a guy in the bush outside a grocery store”. The stalking drove me insane. I became really popular at this school that I didn’t even go to. I started dating a guy from there who I’m still with. The people there were obsessed with me. Just because of the rumours and my Instagram. I looked older for my age. I had kids taking pictures up my skirt.
My dad jumped on all of it and started saying I’m a whore and I’m a whore because I got raped. I told him to fuck off. He almost beat me to death. Cops got involved. He fled the country.
Janelle this is very disturbing. Just earlier tonight I was thinking about how all the experiences I had of people pickin on me. You’re a good person. Bad people will look to put you down. You make a loser feel bad because you’re so great so they will target you. Keep your chastity, find God because he is giving you a sign that you need to be right and strong now in your own head. Take care and please hit me up in a few years when you are older I will be ready even if you’re not interested romantically I could be a useful friend to have for you. Goodnight and goodluck for now. I’ll see you around here hopefully
My cousin took pictures of me and started a website “selling my nudes” but the nudes weren’t of me. Just because she’s crazy.
His honor was and is damaged from the lies. So many lies going around. The evil ones are targeting you because you are good. You have to fight and be stronger now more than ever
They will keep going for the good ones. They don’t do this to the bad ones like them. You are a threat to their evil ways. Please take me seriously I have been studying this for a long time Janelle. I know what I’m talking about ok?
I’m very concerned for your safety
In future I will give u better contact info if u want. I can help you I promise
That man has warmer cave and more food i go lay next to him
You can solve a lot of problems and understanding if you think back to how we were when we lived in caves
LMAO at that poll. I mean it's sad.. So it's true then. Before seeing the poll i would've said, that some are probably this way, but now i'm not sure about that lol.
The poll doesn't surprise me at all. Most guys ate completely wrong about what women want.
I think that most people want a partner with their this together period...
Very very true statement. I heard this same thing in a few different words coming from the fuckin horse's mouth. I was married to fuckin bitch from Colombia that told me this same thing. Woman are very mercinary.
It's true if a woman doesn't love you for who you are.
Yes, A lot Women think they don't but they do because they don't really hear from the other Guys in the race.
in my opinion it really does feel that way. May not be true but my intuition confirms it. Such as life haha. Just nature really
Women can only do these things if you let them ill just block a woman playing games she can go play this game with the others
This 100% fact. Men that don't have their life in order will always be seen as disposable and women won't care. They want the winners
Who are the winners? The ones that have a job and actually caring?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 The ones that don't have anything going for them wether that be financially or physically or both
If they have nothing going on for them how are they winners?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 They're not? Where did i say that men that don't have their stuff together are winners?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Correction the ones that obviously have a lot of stuff going for them. It's not that complicated
@Chthou95 everyone need to have something going on for them.
You can argue that women don't since they just have to look good and a rich old guy will provide. Thing is most, and I do mean most, women look down on that lifestyle. Why do you think they fought so much to have the same rights we do? They want to have their own value aside from their looks.
And those women, the same women that want to be valued for more than their looks, value men for more than their money.
Totally - they ALL want to be provided for (by the 50 guys on this planet who can afford it - 48 of whom are already married with children)
I am sure you know...
There is no finish line. Pole position (the object of their affection) can change at the slightest stumble.
I mean fairytale is for children. When they grow up they just want to be practical. But some girls never grow up and they still want their fairytale and they get abused.
America is opportunists’ country and all the other countries are following them.
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