Guys, Do you find females more deceptive and sneaky?

[invalid1]

Guys, this is a question for you (girls are allowed to comment whatever they want)

Do you find it difficult to find Trustworthiness in the opposite sex?
I hope we state our opinions without any concern or influence.

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+1 y

I think it's clear that we males tend to use female description to "insult" one another when we get stabbed in the back. But there are females who are victims to social manipulation by both genders. I hope this isn't offensive to them.

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+1 y

Don't fucking brainstorm too much. it's just a simple question!

[AmandaYVR]

I think the specific word choices here matter.
I might regret this, but let me try to break it down. (Bear with me, this is my first attempt.)

• I don't think one gender lies more than another. Both lie to protect their image, and get what they want. Etc etc. Lying crosses all borders and boundaries and chromosomes.
• Sneaky? Well females tend to avoid being direct, so I'll give sneaky to the pinks. Men also are, but much less so, if we're going by sheer volume of patterns of behaviour. Men favour directness.
• Deceptive? The desire to deceive sounds very much like lying, and, again, people do that for their benefit. What is stopping being deceptive is morality and ethics. And I wouldn't say either gender is worse than the other. You've got nasty and selfish on both sides.
• Trustworthiness? Well men are raised, or bred, to have others depend on them (whether that be in their private life with a partner, family, or public life through work. It's particularly evident when it comes to safety and security positions.) Big points there. But women are more communal creatures, not so much individuals or loners. Women will support and care for others more than men will. Men tend to see those jobs that require ultra sensitivity and compassion as being beneath them or of no interest. Women take service jobs (it's their biggest employer in the aggregate), and they do most of the teaching, taking care of the kids, and healthcare on the lower rungs. Trustworthiness is extremely difficult to measure. For one thing, lovers scorned can be sooooo bitter. People expect more from their partners than their friends and even family. I see a lot of bitterness from both genders. There's not much point in anecdotal samplings. Not very scientific. Perception plays a large part in how people will respond. Here on gag (and I presume the internet) the males have much, much, more anger towards females than the other way around. I'm not surprised males will say 'Yes, women are more...' The females vote and comment and engage less on every single topic here. They are simply far less vocal, all the way around. Just because they speak less doesn't mean that they have been any less scorned or betrayed. So that's also skewing the numbers.
• I think females are more psychologically manipulative. To all people, potentially. They tend not to say why they are doing things or what they truly want (for various reasons and motives; some are honest and decent motives, some are not.) Guys have more of an independent, live-and-let-live approach to life. They don't get as entangled in the private lives of others. They don't find it as interesting. It's more exhausting and tedious to hear about it. Women also try to guard their reputation as "the nice one" so they are motivated to manipulate and retain that [often false] image. Men are likely to boast and brag to create an aura of power, strength, authority, build themselves up to more than they are. Their world is extremely hierarchical. Both manipulate, but women seem to go to more complex levels in this. Makes me think of 'Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive...'
• Overall, my experience is guys lie to get women off their backs and not be judged or critiqued (when you're in a relationship with them. If you're friends with them, they tend to welcome the feedback.) Girls probably do this too. Neither likes being questioned or being accountable. People like to see what they can get away with, to varying degrees. But a guy is more likely to tell you what he wants - when he figures out what that is, and many times he hasn't sorted out his own feelings on it yet, while a girl is much less likely to tell you directly what she wants, and what she did not like, and what she wants from you, and what she wants you to do. So I'll agree with the statement, in general, yes, "more."

Louis' take here is funny. It's just comedy. Let's not take it too seriously. But it's good for a laugh.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/lDEanZ9CWm4

[poonlover]

Pretty much nailed it.

[invalid1]

Very helpful, and well said.

[cloudspy]

I really enjoyed reading your response. Criminality could be brought into this question as well. I am led to believe there are a lot more men in prison than women. More male psychopaths, sexual deviants, etc. A lot of crime is pretty sneaky and deceptive. Or maybe it means less women are caught so they are equally deceptive and sneaky but just better at it.

[haphazard]

@cloudspy Women get shorter sentences for the exact same crimes and are less likely to get arrested in the first place. Guys are bigger risk takers though, which has less to do with deception and more about forcing their will.

[haphazard]

@AmandaYVR The fact women keep so many secrets about what they want and why is enough for men not to trust them. From the start, women go to great lengths to deceive men with their looks. They wear makeup, have plastic surgery, dye their hair, and devote enormous energy to altering their natural appearance. Men feel more of a need to express themselves about women since they often feel disregarded by society, which is what you see online. Women get support groups, women's groups, total strangers stick up for them, while men are just made fun of. In addition, the dating pool is skewed in favor of women. Women will often make a guy fall for her and after getting tired of him, jump to the next guy. It's easy for them to get a guy in the short term so they don't get as bent up over the end of a relationship, while guys sit back confused thinking they were more important to her and contemplating how long it will take to find another woman and how they will cope. That's the true cause of male bitterness towards women, deceitful manipulation and a skewed dating pool (and society in general). Complaining is really what pushes guys over the edge though. Guys already feel underappreciated and no guy wants to hear about women being mistreated in society. Any guy that wants to hear this is because he has abused women and feels guilty or he just agrees with her to stay on her good side. There's probably less women on this site because they don't need an outlet or feel much need to improve themselves for relationships. They easily get a guy and if he does not conform to her desires, she moves on to the next guy. That's why you see so many pussified men in relationships. The woman bosses her man around outright or uses subversive tactics to manipulate him into getting what she wants. If they have kids, he knows she will automatically get custody and ruin his life.

[Jamie05rhs]

@haphazard "Guys already feel underappreciated and no guy wants to hear about women being mistreated in society.".
I disagree. I DO want to hear about it. You know why? Because if it's being spoken about, then that means more people are hearing about it. And therefore there's a greater chance of change coming about, because awareness is being raised. And I like to see that bad men are being called out on their shitty behavior. Because, let's face it: they are the reason why the dating pool is skewed in the first place. If there were less bad men out there taking advantage of women and hurting women, then more women would be available to date the good guys like you and me.

[AmandaYVR]

@cloudspy That's an interesting question, whether they are related or should be associated together.
Yes, there is deception and sneakiness in crime. A lot of it.
Perhaps this is more about the root motivation for sneakiness and how often it is applied, rather than who is more capable. Both are obviously equally capable.

@haphazard "Women get shorter sentences for the exact same crimes and are less likely to get arrested in the first place." This is true. But you cannot justify males' enormously higher crime rates by placing the blame on women. Men commit the vast majority of crimes. That's why 98% of the prison population is male.
I can't take you seriously. There are so many erroneous conclusions here. Do you see the difference between what I did, and what you did (and what do many men do)? Anyone who speaks in these terms of absolutely and assigning all blame to another is almost always in the wrong themselves.
Women wear makeup and enhance their beauty because beauty is revered by both genders. There is no way you can call beauty enhancements lies. Men like it.
There are more female users on gag than male.
Use paragraph returns. When you write in large blocks, you'll lose most of your audience.

[haphazard]

@Jamie05rhs I used to care too until I heard story after story of women exaggerating the details of a story, purposely leaving out important details, or outright making up the story altogether. I have also noticed a strong tendency of women to gravitate towards abusive men instead of men that will treat them right, which probably explains why you're still a single virgin at 34 years old. I get tired of hearing the stories all the time. I've also found women never care about my sexual assault stories despite claiming the opposite. Even if society suddenly became able to catch all rapists and put them all to death, nature would still produce rapists from time to time. So while I agree that what you're saying sounds good in theory, it has terrible repercussions in reality. Men become afraid of women, women take advantage of men, and the problem isn't solved or is made worse (feminism slowly chiseling away at the "women and children first" mindset, as an example). If the threat of a life sentence in prison prevented people from committing murder, we would no long have a problem with murder in society and yet the problem is ever-present.

[AmandaYVR]

@Jamie05rhs Right, Jamie.
Here's what's happening. Everyone struggles with dating. Men get hurt, women get hurt. Many things never happen or fizzle out or end bitterly.
But guys are the ones initiating things more in the first place - almost exclusively. So they are feeling rejected way more than girls.
And when guys get hurt, a bunch of guys get really angry and do not deal with pain constructively. They lash out and rage and their impatience and frustration makes them organize with like others, and they go online and treat girls like shit, dumping all of their anger and bad experiences onto them.
But girls were also in those relationships (the ones that actually developed into something), and they're hurt too. And angry. But girls do not rage and create all these hate groups and attack innocent people on the internet who never did fuck to them. They stay quieter in their pain, talk to girl friends about it, eat ice cream, watch rom-coms, vent. And so men have very little information to actually go on, as to what it's like to be a girl in this day and age, trying to date guys. Their voices are muted, and quite often when they do speak up, they get verbally attacked. Like, complete character assassinations.
Just like irl, be victims of assault, rape, etc etc. All perpetrated by men.

[haphazard]

@AmandaYVR I just broke down the details of why there are more men in prison, since I have specifically studied this. Did you miss the part about men being bigger risk takers? Studies have shown this is due to testosterone. I know you can't take me seriously, as me and another guy on this thread already discussed, women hate being called out on their bullshit. That's basically universal for 90% of the women on this site. I didn't speak in terms of absolutes, that's just how you interpreted it. I've talked to many many guys and they don't like finally seeing a girl without makeup and seeing an ugly face. There's no amount of reality bending that can change my mind on that.

[AmandaYVR]

@haphazard You did not break down why there are more men in prison. Where? I have studied this also. I almost wrote a mytake on it. But I scrapped it as I didn't feel like dealing with yet more more anger and aggression.

I'll say this as calmly and plainly as I can - I am not one of those females who refutes their gender being called out or do blatant deflection of blame. I assure on that, with great conviction, I am not that. It infuriates me as well. I wrote on it yesterday again. So do not say that to me, please.

[haphazard]

@AmandaYVR "All perpetrated by men." LOL and you accuse me of speaking in absolutes. Your hypocrisy is astounding. Just for your information, I've been sexually assaulted by two different women. Good riddance to you.

[AmandaYVR]

@haphazard Yep, this is done. Good riddance to you too. It's not worth my time.

To others here... here's the goods to back up what I said:
"Half the global population carries a genetic marker that is associated with a greater probability that they will commit a crime.
If you are a carrier of a particular set of genes you are 4x more likely to commit violent crime.
3x more likely to commit robbery.
5x more likely to commit aggravated assault.
8x more like to commit murder.
13x more like to commit sexual assault.
Almost everybody in prison is a carrier of these genes, and over 98% of prisoners on death row carry this set.
“We summarize this set of genes as the Y Chromosome, and if you are a carrier of this, we call you a male, and this means that we can’t assume that everyone is coming to the table, equally equipped, in terms of their drives and behaviours. Genes matter.”
David Eagleman, Neuroscientist, Head of the Centre for Science and Law in Houston, TX

[Biancam13]

Tbh I think girls do more sneaky things more often. When guys fight, they’ll beat each other up. Girls versus girls fighting is a lot more catty, sneaky and behind your back. A guy will shout in your face while a girl will silently sabotage you behind your back. At least that’s been my experience, and it’s not a sexist thing either.

[raw_is_war99]

You nailed it

[Lliam]

Rather than deceptive and sneaky, which imply deliberate deceit, I would say that they are generally more shrewd and subtle than men, and necessarily so.

Guys are rarely subtle. They are straight forward or at least think they are. They aren't beyond manipulating women, though.

They are also less perceptive than women. They will focus on their objectives and resolutely butt up against brick walls, while girls learn how to manipulate their fathers with sweetness and tears. Their mothers are wise to these tactics. Girls also spend a lot of time honing their analytical skills from an early age. They look for nuances in body language and behavior (especially those of their female peers). They can perceive subtle slights and snarkiness, and they spend time analyzing it with their friends. But this also hones their skills in seeing through men's bullshit when they pass puberty.

The human species is sexually dimorphic. Men are larger and stronger than women. So women have to be smart. Some men resent that and and call it manipulation.

For example, sometimes the best way for a woman to get what she wants is to give a guy an idea in a way that makes him think that he thought of it. That way, he can puff out his chest and feel like the man. Its hilarious. Its works far better than standing toe to toe with a guy and making demands. Guys resist being dominated.

Women's emotions can also work to their advantage. In the same way that they learned how to manipulate their fathers, they can use sweetness, charm and even tears to make a man melt. I'm not even talking about being fake. It's just the difference between the way boys and girls are raised. Guys are supposed to suppress their emotions, be strong, solid and resolute. Girls are allowed to be more vulnerable. Guys might call that weakness, but is it?

Something else just occurred to me. Women communicate differently. For example, guys are straight forward. She might say "Are you hungry?" as a cue to say that she is hungry and would like to stop for something to eat. He would simply say "I'm hungry. Do you want to stop for some lunch?" I guess it's the way women are trained. They want to be inclusive rather than flat out stating what they want. But it can be confusing to inexperienced guys.

Yes there are differences between the ways men and women think and behave. There are many similarities, too. But I like the differences. I absolutely do not think women are generally more deceptive and sneaky than guys. How many guys are players or cheat? I've found most women to be honest and sincere. But they do have defense mechanisms and ways of surviving in the world.

[Browneye57]

Well gee... ya think?

Women communicate covertly.
Men communicate overtly.

Women are masters at nuance, innuendo, passive aggressive. There is ALWAYS an ulterior motive. ALWAYS.

Men are direct. Their brain runs on facts and logic. And why you cannot ever win an argument with a woman, cuz no mater the facts and logic of the topic, she'll ALWAYS make it about her FEELINGS.

And they project like crazy - so whatever a guy says, they just keep digging and looking for what the real meaning is. That's just how they operate.

You need to understand their brain runs on feelings and emotion, which are subject to change at any given moment. Just ask them! So you cannot pin them down, it's their prerogative and god-given right to change their mine. JUST ASK THEM!!
It's jut not lying or sneaky to them - it's just a change of heart.

[Browneye57]

On update...
Victims of social manipulation? Uh, no. Women are constantly trying to claim they are victims somehow, of something or someone. Such a giant fail. YOU'RE NOT A FUCKING VICTIM.
It's the blame-game - otherwise you're turning over power over yourself to something or someone else. Take responsibility for your own actions and decisions. PERIOD. OWN YOUR OWN SHIT.

[invalid1]

@Browneye57 I just want to be fair, because people tend to generalise, or expect you to generalise. While all this is going on, there are indeed females who tend to be so emotionally attached and we treat them like the rest. You know that.

[Browneye57]

Yes, generally they're all the same. AWALT - all women are like that.
Then some dipshit comes along right after and says NAWALT - not all women are like that.

Well, yeah they are. LOL
What exactly does 'emotionally attached' have to do with anything. Being emotionally attached has nothing to do with turning power over yourself and your feelings and emotions, to someone or something else besides YOURSELF.
Introspection is a foriegn concept for women - virtually null. It seems nearly impossible for them to even consider that their decisions and actions have a direct influence on where they're at in their life. It is ALWAYS a blame game. You even find it in their word tracks...
"he made me ____________" fill in the blank. No, no one made you anything, you CHOSE.
"I had not choice, I had to __________." fill in the blank - they back themselves into a corner claiming to have no options, which is patently false - there are always options. Perhaps a 'nuclear option', but there are always options.
"I was out of options". Just another way of saying it.
Watch for these, you'll hear women make these statements all the time. And they always claim to be a victim of their circumstances - NEVER any culpability on their part. EVER.

[invalid1]

I am gonna need to study your last comment, and then reply to you! execuse me, just give me sometime.

[Browneye57]

Interview a dozen single moms and you'll soon see a predictable pattern. EVERY SINGLE GODDAM ONE OF THEM married an ASSHOLE. Just ask them!!!

[Cathy7734]

I believe both genders can be deceptive. Guys will do anything to get laid. I know one guy that gave a girl an engagement ring just so he can have continuous sex. He was a college graduate, smart, kind, generous, and had a great job and career. Nothing but positive things to say about him. The only complaint was he got her a cheap engagement ring. However, he would never go forward with marriage. When she gave him an ultimatum, he left. He found another girl to who he gave a cheap engagement ring and did the same thing.

[haphazard]

Please do not group all guys into one category. Yes there are guys that are exactly like you described but it's not all or even most guys. I think guys exist on a spectrum... Some are willing to go to much farther lengths to receive sex than others, then there are guys like me that don't even consider sex a priority.

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

So why did she not buy him an expensive engagement ring and oblige him first? Is it illegal for a female to think/act of her own will/volition?
Or is it a 'wait for him - then you can blame _him_?

[Azura_88]

He wasn't KIND. If he were kind then he wouldn't have mislead her. He was a fake nice guy. I never understood why guys will even say ridiculous things like "I will die for you" just to get laid. It's creepy

[haphazard]

I guess one could also ask, why do girls like hearing stuff like that so much? Do women, by nature, expect the man to sacrifice his wants and needs for her's? If so, I understand how some psychos could justify using girls without remorse.

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

@Azura_88 you mean a PREDATOR? Me, an Orca? Never____

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

I had something ellse to say, though... sweet little lies, like - yes, I love anothee... tell me that would not just melt your giant heart

[invalid1]

I think from your attitude, most of you, there's contradiction! When a guy approaches you, you say "They just want sex". When you approach guys you say "They need emotional warmth". So you have to be specific when dealing with us! As for the story you mentioned, who knows what's the full context, why did he leave her? was she really upset when he did? we may be stupid, but I think you girls exaggerate on how stupid you think we are!

[Alyssa11]

Look I’ll be real. We are the sneakier sex for sure. Men are so clueless and they can’t lie to save themselves. It’s just our nurturing abilities that make us wait around and stay with the guy. But I’ll tell you something else - once you get with a good girl who’s down for you you’ll never look back.

[invalid1]

I don't know what to say. Are you smarter than us?

[invalid1]

Got it! needn't say anything further.

[K-I-S-S]

Good, they are still in the dark 😗

[fr44c3iqqs]

There are many things that one gender do against the other, but it is no reason to be sexist against either gender. I can’t believe how many misogynists are here acting on misogyny! It is very sickening!

[Alyssa11]

It's a fact that women are generally better liars/sneakier than men. We are wired differently and less likely to act on impulse. We plot by nature.

[Lyubyets]

Women can't lie to me

[invalid1]

@Lyubyets Good for you!

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Deceptive and sneaky isn't a gender trait, it's a character trait.. yes I've known deceptive women, but I've also known deceptive men. People need to stop blaming a gender, blame the individual already

[rcljr]

Gee, if men could get that very same courtesy from feminists, if American gun owners could get that very same courtesy from non gun owners.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@rcljr if women could get that Dave courtesy from MGTOW and any man that tries to lump all women the same... We all have breasts and vaginas but even those aren't the same on every woman😂

[m33lad]

Women and their emotional nonsense. Enjoying your 34 cats?

[Rachelspiks]

@rcljr American gun owners can all go take a flying leap. They don't deserve sympathy or support from anyone.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@m33lad Enjoying your mom's basement😂

[Djaay]

The Bible states (ALL WOMEN ARE DECEPTIVE ) . So how is it then that its NOT a gender thing?

[Rachelspiks]

@Djaay Gee, I don't know. Maybe the Bible is WRONG. Ever think of that?

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@Rachelspiks Ha right!! And, wasn't the bible written by "man"🤔

[Djaay]

The Bible isn't wrong. And u both are trying to decieve others with us evil deception.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@Djaay 🙄🙄 Okay sure lol

[rcljr]

That is true, it makes me like a fat kid in a candy store.

[m33lad]

I don’t live in my mom’s house. You old hag!

[rcljr]

@m33lad 🤣🤣🤣

[invalid1]

@Brainsbeforebeauty What you said is true. I agree with your opinion.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@m33lad And I don't have any cats... You think calling me an old hag bothers me? If you don't want people to assume you still live with mommy, don't act so childish resorting to name calling😊

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@invalid1 thanks

[Cathy7734]

The way men are these days, I would rather be with 34 cats.

[invalid1]

@Cathy7734 😂😆 🤜🤛

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@rcljr What the hell is wrong with you.. Just stop.. Before you get reported

[Rachelspiks]

@Djaay Look, just READ the damn thing and you'll see that it is wrong. About a lot of things.

[Djaay]

Such as ; ?

[rcljr]

Report away, as many times as you care to, I do not GAF. Opinions are opinions and if you don’t like one don’t fkn look at it, what r u, like 5 years old?

[rcljr]

Look out everybody ! She got her undies in a bundle over an opinion, she gonna report me to soothe her butt hurt…🥱🥱🥱

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

@rcljr Telling someone you hope they get raped is an opinion? And yeah, I removed your bullshit comment.. You're the one that jumped on my opinion... And my undies ain't in a bunch, don't wear any😂 learn the difference between opinion and rude nonsense... Gtfu already

[Cathy7734]

@Brainsbeforebeauty
There sure does seem like there are a lot of men who yell at women on this site. I don't know why they do this. I've always wondered if they yell at women in their personal lives.

[Rachelspiks]

@Djaay Not one of the so-called prophecies ever came true. Matthew 16:28 for example. It never happened. We're still waiting.

[m33lad]

@cathy a single woman is a miserable bitch. A single man is a happy guy. Besides your rotten pu22y what else you by wanna bring to the table? Women aren’t funny, they say they are, these days they’re all married to Tiktok. They nag men to death annoying as FK! Yaaah I’m sure we’re the ones losing. Good luck fixing a tired or taking your couch from the basement to the 6th floor and fighting of any threat.

[ManOnFire]

I've met some guys who are pretty slimy and deceitful, but I think women more often are, and they actually pride themselves on it. However, they are so self-satisfied with their deception to the point of thinking a guy never figures it out, when guys actually do see it a lot more than women give them credit for.

One of my exes hated that she could never fool me - it was literally the reason we broke up. She had a habit of being sneaky and deceitful, and I even told her once that I always find out the truth, one way or another, sooner or later. And I did. She hated that she couldn't hide it from me that she was messing with someone else, and she hated that I was not dumb enough to fall for her lies like other men did. And then we broke up.

[haphazard]

Holy crap you just opened my eyes to why me and the last girl I dated broke up. She seemed so nice and we got along great for awhile, then I started noticing inconsistencies in the things that she would tell me. I finally called her out for lying to someone in front of them and let me tell you, she was pissed. She resented me ever since then and began spontaneously lashing out at me until the relationship fell apart.

[ManOnFire]

@haphazard Wow! Indeed the Force is strong with you.

[rjroy3]

I don't have problems trusting girls, but without a doubt girls on average are more sneaky than guys on average. Like I've seen girls literally gloat about being effectively sneaky/deceptive.

Guys on average are more willing to take social backlash for their actions. Girls much less. So making up plausible excuses to get out of things. Maintaining fake friendships to maintain access to other people/places, and white lies are common place for a lot of girls.

Like how many guys have frienemies? Very few

[ChrisMaster69]

Not really no.

I have always been very open with anyone I’ve been in a relationship, also if it’s been a BDSM type relationship, it’s based on trust.

for every relationship, I’ve always used Trust, Respect, Honesty and Communication.

If you don’t have this communication and openness, then you start having more reliance on trust with each other.

we have fairly stupid conversations when out as a group of friends, we have asked things like ‘have you asked your partner what their sexual fantasies are’, the number that have been in a relationship for say 5 years and have never asked.

That is a sort of communication issue that a relationship can have.

[Mofunfour20]

Yes because women are valued for beauty so they have to leverage it for the best deal or guy. Men have to work for their value so women are always more socially calibrated than men because most men don't have much to offer til 30 or 35. Women cash in on their value while men have to attain their value. Most homeless people are men. This opinion is fact based

[haphazard]

100% yes. Women evolved to be deceptive and manipulative because they don't have the same physical prowess or technical ability as men. The dark history of humans involves women extorting resources from men and gaining power by using sexual, emotional, and social manipulations. It's the same reason that women will attack someone's social reputation instead of attacking them physically. Just because we live in the modern world with plentiful resources does not mean women can simply turn off hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. It's an ingrained instinct that women should work to keep in check.

[Dvchill]

Honestly yes, I find women more disciplined in the secret arts but on some level I think they kinda get taught that. Like a guy that is 5”10’ or more is physically larger then “most” girls and fairly average for dudes… when u are physically larger u can b a bit more open cause u r going to physically make it happen.. no need for underhanded bullshit. Also I honestly think girls are just smarter then us when it comes to social Q’s… but that’s just my observation 🤷‍♂️

[invalid1]

True.. me too, I feel so dumb in front of them

[TheSpaceGnome]

Most men tend to think less of both themselves and other men for being a coward, so by default being sneaky is discouraged. However, in women this social trend doesn't really exist, so when they are sneaky or deceptive, they brag about pulling it off more.

Basically a lot of men care about hiding it after the fact more, so you notice men doing it less. But the thing is, its being sneaky and deceptive, the entire point is that you never find out. If you are noticing a lot of women doing that, then they suck at being sneaky/deceptive.

[m33lad]

Because of social construct.
Since the year 2000. The evil people on top knew to destroy anything you must first remove
Men from power.


And allow women to do and say whatever they want.
And cannot haven masculine men.
To do that add social construct to make anything men say to be wrong and offensive.


While women on men.
This will also help depopulation. As more men will give up in relationships.


2 birds with 1 stone.
It has gone so bad that women have no guidance that Japan had started making advanced sex robots.


Only matter of time will be begging men to give them attention. While more men go for sex robots.


The depression In female has already started. Look at them on Tiktok. They’re screaming for attention. While they’re getting tons of fake online Soyboy meaningless compliments.

[litty]

It's not really something to do with gender, but more the type of people you attract. If you run with a shady crowd (drug addicts, dealers, politicians, supremacists, people that have red flags of being pedophile or serial killer, etc.), then your interactions together may not be in your best interest.

[PinkLady21]

Sneakiness and being deceptive is not a gender based trait, it’s just a trait that some people in general have and unfortunately it’s impossible to spot until your the victim of it! 😔

[rjroy3]

He didn't suggest that it was. He pretty much straight-up said one more than the other. Which directly implies that both do it, he's just asking are girls more deceptive than guys

[lightbulb27]

some are and some aren't. some males are (think of serial killers... narcissistic men, etc..). In general yes, but I think it's more an aspect of personality and emotional makeup. In general women are more evasive in my opinion because they aren't as strong physically, they have to avoid physical confrontation to survive, and find ways to manipulate to get what they need vs use power. They often being more emotionally attuned, have more emotional skills to bring to bare.

[Anonymous]

In a way Girls can be sneaky because they can easily hide there true feelings especially from Guys they like, Guys are not that good at hiding our true feelings so it is more common for us Guys to be seen as unattractive to you Girls.
We understand you Girls want to protect yourself and so you should but it just makes it harder for Genuine Guys and Guys you want to approach you to do so because at least about 90% of single Guys most Women don't find attractive or you don't want to date them or something Which leaves Genuine Guys and Guys who would be the best boyfriends let alone husbands who only want the chance to have a Girlfriend at least with a 10% chance.

[FilmGuy93]

Definitely. Women lie about more and different things than men; they'll lie more often and about issues that you're just like, "why would anyone bother lying about this?" And then there's the fact that women always have some alternative, hidden agenda that they're working.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

Deceptive? No, that's definitely a trait widely found among the male species of Homosapien.

Sneaky? Definitely. Most males are too foolish, and stupid to be "sneaky".

[karaspara]

I don't know what guys think but I certainly find girls more sneaky/sly/devious than men you guys are amateurs

[Questionevrruthing]

No were jus nice people and not bitches

[karaspara]

@Questionevrruthing 😂😂😂 yeah that totally describes all men everywhere you dumb little biatch 😜😂😂😂😂

[Cathy7734]

@karaspara
How do you know he is little?

[karaspara]

@Cathy7734 I'm guessing because he has angry little man syndrome

[Djaay]

Men don't want to be devious , sneaky , sly or liars.

[Questionevrruthing]

U ain't wrong I do have a small shlong

[Anonymous]

Sadly yes I do. Women have so much going for them and they know it. All a woman has to do is cry rape and she is automatically the victim. Yes, I know women really do get sexually assaulted and this is not to discount that. However, there are plenty of women who use this as a tactic to get their way. Also, they are better liars because they feel less guilty about it. There are very few women I trust. After all, it was Eve (not Adam) who took the first bite of the Forbidden Fruit.

[Anonymous]

I believe its a broken moral compass thing. People, trick people have no morals. Safty aside. Narcissism is rampant. Humanity has been the same since the beginning of time. It will never change. How you tell if you got a bad Apple is, lack of empathy, maturity, unhealthy thought patterens. Pray the Lord reveal bad apples in life, its a spiritual thing also..

[Anonymous]

Any one can be deceptive. But women can use their “emotions” to justify a lot of crap. Men don’t have that excuse.

[Arabella_Rose]

How many female bashing questions are asked on here per day?

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

Any comments or arguments, or just deflection/saying 'yes, so what'?

[Arabella_Rose]

@ThatNoUVAtYourEyes

Maybe If you actually had girls going for you, you wouldn’t have so much crap to say about women on here. We’ve seen enough anti women bs

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

Blah blah
Throwing rocks from a glass house

[Cathy7734]

@arabella_rose
I always wonder if men who bash women on this site are doing it in real life too. Or are they just venting and in real life they are polite gentlemen who, if they have nothing nice to say about a person, they don't say anything at all.

[m33lad]

You just proved his point.

[Arabella_Rose]

@Cathy7734 you need to understand that most men on this website do not have dating lives and are likely to have been rejected by a lot of women in life along with suffering a lot from low self confidence. If they had good dating lives, they wouldn't be so bitter about women.

[Chthou95]

You still didn't really have an actual rebuttal

[invalid1]

@Arabella_Rose Just a small note here if I may..
low self esteem is difference from lack of confidence.

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

That probably deserves additional thought and consideration, the difference between self esteem and self, though in that context it sounds a oleonasm - confidence.

[invalid1]

*different from

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

Most girls (and guys) on GaG are on GaG _because_ they are frustrated/something is not worlking in their private/intimate lives.
Some invent overly or overtly sexual things, others are seething with anger for probably being hurt/used/abused prior.
It is like classicar car forums - those whose toys are working beautifully are hardly there, only those who got taken for a ride (proverbial) - and are thus dumbfounded/in need of help and counsel.

[Anonymous]

Id just advise anybody to stay away from people who call women females

[Mofunfour20]

Its sexist?

[Opinion Owner]

@Mofunfour20 No but mostly used by incels and so

[Mofunfour20]

Or people describing an animal. Its funny that such a simple word can be triggering. I guess im not that sensitive, the word male doesn't strike me as offensive at all

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

Why?
Which other word includes girls and women?

[Jake99999]

Not right to generalize. Not all women are like that. Just like you can’t generalize about men. People can be sneaky or liars - but it’s not because they are female.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Being a liar and deceptive has nothing to do with gender but rather the wicked heart of a individual.

[MrSwisher]

Biology and i'm speaking in general terms, it makes sense. Women lack the physical abilities of men especially when dealing with periods, hormonal fluxes, and child rearing.

[cloudspy]

I think both sexes are pretty much equally deceptive and sneaky.

[Ekvark]

I trust women about the same way I trust men. Just enough to go about my day and do what I gotta do. Might trust women a teensy bit more than men with certain things.

[RolandCuthbert]

I would say that is a definite no. But I will say this, it is must easier to trust someone who isn't American.

[DonkeyDan]

Really don't thinks it's gender specific trait, both sexes can be equally as sneaky and deceptive. Most people just don't feel the need to be.

[Gwenhwyfar]

I think guys are generally more deceptive and sneaky but not universally so

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

Like how?

[Fuentes]

Men are very sloppy at being sneaky lol

[he-takes-a-part]

Unaddressed underestimated issues of the society and thats real issue females can go more slipping away when it comes to money than men.
They don’t show there real face it has to be taken out. Hence they like guys with personality.

[Anonymous]

they are so much so that most guys never KNOW that the girls are being deceptive and sneaky UNLESS she WANTS them to know (to humiliate them for instance)

[DeltaCharlieEcho]

Women are liars by default. It’s a self preservation thing.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

You would be very surprised with how disingenuous some men are.
I trust the opposite sex more than I trust mine. If nothing else because they have more empathy.

[FunkyMonkee]

So far!! Guys are, too, but I've seen it more in girls than guys!

[Anonymous]

Yeah I do even my own mother.

[rcljr]

More sneaky and deceptive that what? A fox? A black ops CIA agent?

[FatherJack]

Not really , the vast majority of people , gender regardless , cannot be trusted.

[Charliefretz329]

It’s possible to think that way, but males overlook a ton of shit when they think with their hormones more than their brains.

[Questionevrruthing]

Yes. They are devils in disguise. They appear like nice angels on the outside cos they look friendly and cute. But behind the curtain is a evil demon bitch

[raw_is_war99]

Guys…girls…can’t we just live in harmony 🙄

[invalid1]

lol I like that.

[Chthou95]

Yes we get it, both genders can be sneaky. But women do tend to be more sneaky & lie more to even avoid confrontation

[Anonymous]

Yes women are more deceptive and sneaky. And guys know it.

[Anonymous]

without a doubt. there is no comparison. it is probably due to their physical disadvantage vs guys but it is still not a great trend

[lovesummerA7]

I just need - want to find them young - horny and always ready to fuck….. knock boots

[Anonymous]

Yes because deception is legit part of their nature.

[Neosporin]

I like women I think they are nice :)

[red324]

They both have their ways

[Anonymous]

Women tend to be more manipulative. Yes. But it all depends on the person.

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

I have only met girls who claim it is acceptable

[Asianguy123]

I think they are tricky

[SynthKobra]

100 percent. They don't even trust each other

[MountAverage]

Nope. Got nothing to do with gender.

[Ggyredcvh]

Sexist bs by manchildren.

[anylolone]

Neither, have you looked at instagram?

[SlipperyStinker]

100% and I mean that with no disrespect.

[Jamie05rhs]

Absolutely.

[Slim57]

Yeah its just as @Biancam13 said

[Dinosaursandanime65]

No not really