Why are women on here against shaving?

[Zenit93]

It's a strange phenomenon to me that wanting women to shave is now considered sexist. I'm an extremely hairy guy, and I trim/shave to upkeep my appearance for my wife. If a woman is so lazy to were asking her to shave is oppressive, that's a big red flag to run. Men value a woman's appearance just as much as women values a man who can provide. You're willing to do that little to meet our needs? Men, don't give women like that the time of day.

[Femphile_xoxo]

🥱 keeping up an appearance isn't a "need" for a partner. There are plenty of people who shave and who don't. If you're super against women not shaving, then don't get with one!

You're basically saying that women are "required" to fit their gender norms & body standards. That's the sexist part 😘!! Everyone has the right to freely do whatever they want with their body. Shaving is literally such a small thing.

[Zenit93]

It’s a small thing to women, but men value looks a lot.

[Femphile_xoxo]

Well, I've met plenty of men who don't care if their girlfriend shaves their armpit bc it's such a small, insignificant thing. Besides, sometimes people just forget to shave 🥱🥱

Not caring to fit one of the most mundane gender norms doesn't make someone less of a woman. And besides, saying that it's unacceptable for a woman to not shave her armpits is pretty much just an entry-level version of controlling girls' lives.

[Zenit93]

I think men have taken a back seat, don’t are afraid to say these things. You sound melodramatic. I workout and keep up my appearance because I care to look good for my wife. I’m not being controlled

[Zenit93]

It’s unacceptable to my standards if a woman is not willing to put that little of effort to meet my needs

[SignedAutographs]

Yet you're making a big deal out of it

[Femphile_xoxo]

You asked 🤷

[helva]

I am not against shaving on principle. Other girls do what they want. I only shave my bikini line when I plan to swim.
Did it a few times when I was 14-15 together with a friend of mine and went crazy after a few days by the itching of the stubbles.

[Zenit93]

Fair enough. I’m assuming you’re not very hairy

[sirderpsalot123]

I agree with you. I don't expect her to be hairless 100% of the time, but if she wants to wear a tank top/shorts, without shaving, I will not be seen with her in public. Unapologetic.

[Apple1996]

Whats wrong with women keeping their hair and being natural? The hair is meant to be there so why shave it?
If my guy asked me to shave I'd purposely start taking hair growth pills just to fuck with him

[SignedAutographs]

Which is VERY immature

[Apple1996]

@SignedAutographs what's immature is a guy expecting women to change for them. Like fuck that they don't live in my body and know what's best for it. Shaving can be very dangerous and cause infections for women so that doesn't seem worth it to shave and get infections just cause a guy wants me to

[SignedAutographs]

You doing what you know you shouldn't be doing

[Zenit93]

Body odor is natural as well.

[Apple1996]

Also nothing wrong with body order. It's literally the way we attract a mate

[Zenit93]

😂😂

[AllThatSweetJazz]

So you’re not allow an opinion on a guys beard or body hair? Or any hair for that matter?

[Apple1996]

@AllThatSweetJazz a guy can keep his hair however he wants

[AllThatSweetJazz]

Really? You think that’s going to hold up at all if we ask women their preferences?

[Apple1996]

@AllThatSweetJazz I can only speak for myself I don't know about other women

[Tinana]

Why are men here against shaving body hair but want to shame women into shaving theirs. Shave that chest hair and armpit hair before coming after ladies hairs both are equally unappealing

[Zenit93]

I shave but body hair is inherently a masculine trait due to high amounts of testosterone

[Tinana]

That makes no sense at all almost everyone has body hair. You want it to be a masculine trait. Sure maybe excessive hairs are made traits. But it still doesn’t change the fact that some people in the comment sections believe that those forests they grow are attractive but if a lady had hair nooooo it’s horrifying that makes no sense. I’m saying both of them are equally icky

[Tinana]

Male not made traits

[Zenit93]

The more body hair = the higher the levels of free and total testosterone. It’s not a matter of want. Men are inherently attracted to women with low counts of free and total testosterone and high levels of estrodial.

[Zenit93]

There are outliers of course. But this still holds true

[Zenit93]

Is it enough for your boyfriend or husband to simply say that he finds it unattractive? Would you budge and cater to his needs in the same way a man does in other ways?

[SignedAutographs]

That's his point hun. if he shaves, you shave

[Tinana]

@SignedAutographs I have no issues with shaving. My issue is when guys defend hairy armpits or chest hair and believe they have the right to tell ladies to shave. When those body hairs are equally as irritating on men and on women and both parties to shave. That is my point

[Tinana]

If my boyfriend is shaving which he does then so am I. It’s not even about him I like to shave. I’m just saying it makes zero sense stating you want smooth girls. But you’re covered in hair everywhere and refuse to shave. It’s hypocrisy

[Zenit93]

Why is it hypocrisy considering that men and women have biological differences. To suggest we set the same exact standards when it comes to monogamy is to suggest we are inherently identical within our wants and needs. Women value other things such as the ability to provide and lead over body hair. If men find shaving to be aesthetically pleasing, are you offended by trying to work for something a man desires because it requires effort or is offensive?

[Tinana]

Sure here we go again with the providing blah blah. You want to be a provider then you want someone who caters to you that’s different. We are talking about aesthetic and in NO WAY pleasing is the idea of men with excessive body hairs in their armpits or chest hairs. Even more disgusting are people who have these features demanding someone else shaves it makes no sense. You’re equally as irritating as the lady that is my point. My dad provides and his armpits are Always neat he is never hair makes time to shave. My mom does the same. There is no excuse being a provider doesn’t stop you from grooming yourself and if you’re not grooming yourself you have ZERO right to demand someone else shave because you are equally as irritating to her as she is to you. That is my point

[Zenit93]

That’s fine. I groom myself. Anything in excess isn’t good. I’m simply making it a point that men value beauty more so than women. Womens values take precedence elsewhere. Nobody is demanding anything. For me, if a girls not willing to even put that amount of effort to look good for me, then I write her off. That’s a red flag to me.

[caitycat21]

Body hairs natural and protects the body. Asking someone to shave when they don’t want to us not only selfish but inconsiderate of their health

[Zenit93]

High levels of testosterone = higher amounts of body hair. This is why we consider more body hair to be more masculine, and therefore unattractive in women. My health has never suffered from shaving or trimming my body hair.

[caitycat21]

Having body hair protects women from getting STI and other infections in the genitalia area, having high levels of testosterone doesn’t make someone less of a woman. In fact your proving exactly how performative it is to want a woman to shave even though women produce their own body hair naturally. Unless you have cancer, you’re going to produce hair on your body.

It’s hypocritical for you to not shave but make your partner shave. It shows how immature you are tbh

[Zenit93]

Having high levels of the primary sex hormone testosterone actually does make a woman more masculine. I shave.

[caitycat21]

Masculinity and femininity are socialized constructs. I’ve already explained why your explanations still just selfish and bullshit,

Like just admit you’re a selfish piece of shit that would rather put a girl at risk of getting a STI because of your selfish double standards?

[Zenit93]

They aren’t just social constructs. Talk to a doctor about it yourself. There are biological differences between man and woman.

[Zenit93]

My wife and I both shave. No STIs lol. I’m referring to body hair outside of genitalia as well.

[SnakeBoop]

🤣 what made you think that?

[SnakeBoop]

Oh nevermind, I read the rest of your "question".
Yikes to the incel.

[Zenit93]

You're calling me an incel?

[SnakeBoop]

For sprouting your rant? Yup.
If it quacks like a duck...

[Zenit93]

So if I don't subscribe to the idea that it's not sexist for men to expect some standards in regards to appearance- I'm an incel. Or is it the fact that I'm vocal about it?

[SnakeBoop]

Yawn.
No dipshit. Going to straight up 'women not shaving just cuz they're lazy, why do you expect men to put in effort" blah blah bullshit is what makes you it.
But, I'm afraid my charity for explaining to fools is now at 0. So good day.

[SignedAutographs]

He likely sees a lot of women out there talking about how they don't want to shave

[maverick2022]

Hairy women are sexy. Stop body shaming them.