Are men MORE oppressed than women today?

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Yes

No ( How many women stormed the beaches of Normandy? )

[inhua]

"suppressed" is more appropriate than "oppressed" and yes men are being suppressed in the western gynocentric society. they can't even express your emotions and feelings without being shouted down as sexist/misogynist/incel etc. or as "whiny, complaining, bitchy" etc. stating something that is true e. g. the divorce statistics can get you labeled as displaying "hate"

the natural competitiveness that boys have is being suppressed at a young age and deemed too "toxically masculine" and thus need to be pushed down at every single available opportunity. the ones who are mentally strong enough to fight this off as boys go on to become men like the Donald Trumps of the world, the Elon Musks of the world, the Andrew Tates of the world, the Mike Tysons of the world etc.

most boys however get beaten down and indoctrinated to accept being weak, soft, spineless, docile and participation trophy awards. boys don't receive encouragement anymore unless they're already at the top of the hierarchy e. g. the captain of the HS football team. everybody else is to one day be sacrificial lambs to die in a dangerous job whether on a construction site, in a bushfire, on the battlefield etc.

even today, a man wanting a young virgin supermodel wife (as unrealistic as it may be) is considered taboo but men must meet the unrealistic standards women insist they should be

I haven't even mentioned family courts/divorce courts, paternity fraud, reproductive rights, affirmative action, false rape accusations, domestic violence, suicide rates and by far the biggest issue men face is that these issues I've just mentioned gets swept under the rug

https://www.youtube.com/embed/dtVHnZX8E50

it's not that these things are happening, it's that society is allowing this shit to happen

https://www.youtube.com/embed/XNrWuZV3jjw

people will only be as good as society allows them to be and right now women have free reign and only men who have any value whether financial, social or genetic get to enjoy the same privileges (that is until the MeToo movement hits them)

[MysteriousDarkness]

The videos only show physical and verbal abuse. Abuse can aso be emotional/mental, financial, cultural etc.

[inhua]

@MysteriousDarkness physical and verbal abuse is a lot more obvious than the other types of abuse.

unfortunately nobody really gives a shit about men's mental health with the exception of MRAs but they get labeled as misogynistic and feminists who supposedly stand for gender equality refuse to address this issue and focus primarily of women's mental health but refusing acknowledge that they are responsible for women's deteriorating mental health by pushing this false narrative of women being victims of "an oppressive patriarchy" and it's no wonder a lot of them have messed up minds and continue to blame men for it.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Dude did you see the one where the older guy was with the younger girl and people were furious

But when it was an older woman with a little boy no one cared

People only care about rape and pedophilia when it applies to little girls

[Adaeva]

Judges and politicians are people too. Therefore, those social experiments goes a long way in explaining why the laws and the courts are heavily biased in favor of women. Perhaps it is that way because women have value and men do not or else women are perceived as having value and men are not.

[msc545]

@Adaeva Men have no value except to make money and fight wars.

[bean2k21]

The concept of oppression is complex and multi-faceted. It is important to understand that different individuals and groups can experience different forms of oppression based on their identities, such as race, gender, sexuality, religion, and more. Both men and women can experience different forms of oppression, but it is widely recognized that women face systemic inequalities and discrimination on a global scale.

For example, women often face lower pay, limited access to education and healthcare, and unequal treatment under the law. Women also experience gender-based violence at alarmingly high rates. On the other hand, men face their own challenges, such as toxic masculinity, stigma around mental health, and restrictive gender norms.

In conclusion, oppression is not a competition, and it is not productive to compare experiences of oppression between different groups. It is essential to work towards understanding and addressing all forms of oppression and creating a more equal and just society for everyone.

[inhua]

"widely recognized" that's a false narrative being pushed by the left

in 2nd and 3rd world countries, it's survival of the fittest. it has nothing to do with gender discrimination

[Subarugirl]

@inhua in 2nd and 3rd world countries, women are the most oppressed...

[inhua]

@Subarugirl survival of the fittest is not oppression. nobody in those countries has it good

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@inhua exactly it’s a matter of the environment anywhere where women are actually oppressed men and children are also

[Subarugirl]

@inhua Oh so is that what we are calling it now... survival of the fittest? You have any idea what going on in the middle east right now?

[inhua]

@Subarugirl yes I do but you only want to focus on the bad shit happening to women and ignoring the bad shit happening to men

[Subarugirl]

@inhua the whole premiss of this question is focussing on one side or the other…. We all know bad shit happens to men, usually at the hands of other men. But addressing one issue doesn’t make other issues less important

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Subarugirl says the person who literally addressed one issue 😂

[Subarugirl]

I've addressed at least a dozen issues in this thread... at least I'm not using an event that happened 80 years ago, before you parents were even born, to try and claim that you are more oppressed than women are today.

Go talk to you mother, she needs to set you straight

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Subarugirl well how about this one when women can’t afford to take care of their children they get government housing & assistance

When men can’t afford to they go to jail

[inhua]

@Subarugirl women's inability to physically do bad shit to men does not mean they can not get other men to their bidding on their behalf.

[Subarugirl]

@inhua what the fuck... women are more than capable of doing bad things and do so all of the time.
Women who dont do bad things simply chose not to.

[Subarugirl]

Men are entailed to the same government housing assistance as women are... go back to school and get a real education.

[inhua]

@Subarugirl women lack the physical capability to do anything substantially dangerous to men. if women were stronger than men, women wouldn't hesitate to beat up men also. which is why their current strategy is character assassination and defamation. just accuse a man of doing XYZ and infuriate other men to do something about it.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Subarugirl what country do you live in? 🤣🤣🤣

[Cassie88]

No one is "oppressed" today, unless they happen to live in a backwards, Third-World dictatorship or theocracy where virtually everyone is oppressed. In the West? Nope, not at all, so can we just STOP believing and promoting this garbage?

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Who has more rights to their children in western societies Men or Women?

[Cassie88]

I don't have any children myself, and have never been married, so you're asking the wrong person that question.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

So how can you say No one is oppressed when you’re uninformed

[PainusNdeeAnus]

No need to reply just stop talking

[Cassie88]

Well, what the hell are you trying to say here? Just SAY IT! Don't hint, be clear.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Nvm it’s not like you could comprehend anyways

[Cassie88]

What? God there are some weirdos on this site.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

I’m weird? What was unclear about what I said?

[Cassie88]

What was unclear? EVERYTHING! You asked me a strange question to which I didn't have an answer, because I didn't know what you were going on about. Who has more rights to their children, men or women? More "rights" to their children?
Let's see, there's the father, the mother... oh, they BOTH have equal responsibilities when it comes to the raising of that child (or children).
What are you getting at here? What does it have to do with oppression?

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Women have more rights to their children than Men.

if you didn’t know about that this happens you should’ve just said so

If you can’t understand how it’s oppressive to keep men away from their children then I don’t have the crayons to explain it

[Cassie88]

"Women have more rights to their children than men", you claim.
No, they don't. Why should I accept this claim?

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Women win custody cases at a 90% rate

You’ve made claims I’m stating facts

If i impregnated you do you not realize that I would literally have to fight you in court just to see my kids

[Cassie88]

And where did you get this 90% figure from? Source? And where (ie. in which nation or nations) was this research conducted?

[PainusNdeeAnus]

From the law offices of Latham and Watkins affiliates one of the biggest law firms in the US

[Subarugirl]

Normandy happened 80 years ago... thought you wanted to talk about what is happening today?

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Yes it did but would you like to tell me how many women were present

[Subarugirl]

Women were not allowed to join the military until 1948... Women didn't fight because the US military did not allow them to... in fact the US military banned women to fight in combat until 1994...
Women in uniform took office and clerical jobs in the armed forces in order to free men to fight. They also drove trucks, repaired airplanes, worked as laboratory technicians, rigged parachutes, served as radio operators, analyzed photographs, flew military aircraft across the country, test-flew newly repaired planes, and even trained anti-aircraft artillery gunners by acting as flying targets. Some women served near the front lines in the Army Nurse Corps, where 16 were killed as a result of direct enemy fire. Sixty-eight American service women were captured as POWs in the Philippines. More than 1,600 nurses were decorated for bravery under fire and meritorious service, and 565 WACs in the Pacific Theater won combat decorations. Nurses were in Normandy on D-plus-four.

they did what they could because they were the US government run entirely by men at that point did not allow them to...

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Men didn’t join either SCRATCH THAT! Boys these were Boys being forced to put their lives on the line

They didn’t have a choice

[Subarugirl]

And who forced those 18 years old into battle?
Women couldn't even serve on a jury in the 1940s, they couldn't even get their own passport until the 30s, neither could they go to an ivy league school, attend a military school or fight in combat practice law, they did not even have the legal right to refuse to have sex with their husband because spousal rape wasn't outlawed on a federal level until the 90s...

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Yes they absolutely could go to school but why would they choose to compete with men in the industry instead of just marrying them see the women back then were a whole smarter than women today

And that military thing is a bullshit argument because y’all can join now and the numbers are still insanely small for a country that’s mostly women

You cannot rape your wife.

[Subarugirl]

No, women were banned from most ivy league schools, and they were not allowed to go to a military school. It's history dude, look it up.

Look up the rates of sexual assault in the US military... then ask yourself why the US military is made up of mostly men. You can't ban women from specific fields the entire history of a country and the wonder why women there aren't that many women are there 10 years later.
In 2013, women achieved full status in the military when they were granted the right to serve in direct ground combat roles. That was only 10 years ago..

Also, YES you can absolutely rape a spouse, what the actual fuck dude... You live in the US, you should know the laws.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Do you realize how hard it is to get into ivy leagues? Even if they were allowed to they still wouldn’t have been able to

You do realize men are twice as likely to be victims of sexual assault right? That’s an FBI Statistic 10 years is plenty of time to join the ranks and serve your

No you can’t rape your wife. 1 Corinthians 7:5 Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer.

[Subarugirl]

Do you serve in the military? No? I didn't think so.

Show me the FBI statistic.

The law says that you can and that you shouldn't.
Romans 13:1-2
"13 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. "

[Subarugirl]

Also you just said "women back then were a whole smarter than women today." then followed that up by stating "Do you realize how hard it is to get into ivy leagues? Even if they were allowed to they still wouldn’t have been able to."

Yet 52.85% of Harvard students are Female.

You're contradicting yourself now...

[Subarugirl]

51.58% for Yale
50% for Princeton
53% for Brown
54% for Cornel

"Women are more likely to be victims of sexual violence than are men. The National Violence Against Women Survey (NVAWS) sampled 8,000 women and 8,000 men and found that 1 in 6 women (17 percent) and 1 in 33 men (3 percent) reported experiencing an attempted or completed rape at some time in their lives."
nij.ojp.gov/.../victims-and-individuals-who-commit-sexual-violence

Also Military rape law did not begin until the late 1980s... "Sexual violence remains pervasive. In 2018, 20,500 service members were sexually assaulted or raped including 13,000 women and 7,500 men. The rate of sexual assault and rape jumped by almost 40% from 2016 to 2018, and for women veterans, the rate increased by over 50% to the highest level since 2006".
www.hillandponton.com/.../
Which is absolutely horrifying considering that 17 percent of the US military is made up of women.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

It is horrifying because According to you men had been sexually assaulted in military longer than women who didn’t gain full status until 2013 and 17% is a very small percentage

I should be asking are you in the military? No! Are you in registered? NO! If war were to break out you would flee and id have to stay behind and fight

The point is women complain about not having the right to abortion ( which isn’t a right ) but when shit hits the fan men HAVE to risk our lives

Again Ivy League schools are difficult for anyone to get into

[Subarugirl]

No, I am not in the military because I chose not to be just as you did... and no I couldn't register for selective service because I am not allowed to, I would know I tried.
You know in 2021 they tried to pass a bill to amend that law which would also require women to register... but guess what? The democrats shot it down and blocked it from getting passed.

Oh hon... who do you think are sexually assaulting all those men in the military hmm? Other men.
Women are complaining about medical autonomy be taken away... and if you think that will stop with just women you are delusional.

You're a year younger than I am, we were in the middle of a military conflict when you were 18... You didn't fight, you're a hypocrite.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

First the fact that you just admitted you have a choice defeats your whole argument

Second you acknowledge that women make up a small percentage of military making most of the people being sexually assaulted MEN so do you only care about sexual assault when it happens to women because you’re the freaking hypocrite

And abortion isn’t autonomy or a right it’s insurance for idiotic promiscuous women

And lastly I come from a military family I couldn’t enlist because of a rare medical condition I was born with

[PainusNdeeAnus]

What was your reason?

[Subarugirl]

No it doesn’t… it reinforces the whole point.
And did you look at the rates of sexual assault of women compared to men, twice as many women were sexually assaulted despite the fact they only make up 17%.

And you think that you can rape a spouse… that speaks volumes for your judgment..
Im not talking about abortion I’m talking about medical autonomy. You’re crazy

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Of course their numbers are gonna be higher if they’re in the minority even if it only happens to 8% of men they are in the majority so it’s still more than women
Look I get that you are a woman and your brain is smaller but you can’t be this bad at math

You can’t rape your wife.

[Subarugirl]

You’re 24 and don’t even know the law of the country you live in…. That’s sad dude

Look I know you’re a boy playing at being a man and have this weird victim complex where you think you’re oppressed. Go back and ask your mother

[PainusNdeeAnus]

It’s not my fault you’re bad at math

And God created marriage and he said you can’t rape your wife because she belongs to you

[inhua]

@Subarugirl have you heard of the white feather movement? feminists in early 1914 were handing out white feathers as a sign of cowardice specifically to men who refused to sign up and join the military. the feathers would signify to other women that these cowardly men were not to be procreated with. it didn't matter how old or inexperienced the men were. boys as young as 14 were being pressured into becoming soldiers to die in WW1. no such thing existed for women and girls

[RandomGuy1030]

With how much shit this woman knows about the past, I M VERY SURPRISED she's married

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Subarugirl I got one question for you
Who has protected women throughout all of human history?

[Subarugirl]

… who oppressed women all through out history?…

[Anonymous]

Absolutely.

Family Court and Child Custody: Women win most times, even when it is clear the man is the better parent.

Gyms: Men get called "creeps" just because they spaced out for a moment and their line of sight happens to be where a woman is walking.

Bystander effect: If a woman needs help, she will get it. If a man needs help, he can go fuck himself.

He said/ She says in a domestic: Man gets the cuffs and his professional reputation ruined.

Woman cries rape when it is false: Man loses everything. Nothing happens to woman when she admits she lied, but man cannot restore what he has lost.

Workplace Harassment: If a woman harasses a man, it is funny or deserved. If a man is accused of harassing a woman, game over, loss of job, you're out. If a workplace hostility situation happens, it is often the MAN who is relocated.

Cheating: If a woman cheats, there must be some reason for it. If a man cheats, he is a selfish asshole.

There are many more instances, but it would be too long to list.

[Exterminatore]

All true to the last letter. Well said!

[Subarugirl]

you realize that a man is more likely to be hit by a meteor than be falsely accused of rape right?

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Subarugirl look up why jemma Beale is in jail

[Subarugirl]

Look how much time Brock Turner got for raping an unconscious women in an alley….

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Subarugirl um he is a rapist who was incarcerated

Jemma accused multiple random men she never even met the accusation alone was enough to convict

[Subarugirl]

For how long? How long was he incarcerated?

[Subarugirl]

Jenna got 10 years in jail. Brock went to jail for 6 months…..
Look up Samuel Melthratter… he sexually abused 3 minors while working at a pool and got 30 days.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Subarugirl at least he was convicted many states don’t even recognize Female-male rape

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Subarugirl look up Amanda George sexually abused 64 babies and toddlers with special needs and she got off on parole

[Subarugirl]

Every state recognizes it. You are wrong.

[Subarugirl]

And that is absolutely, but why don’t you look up really quickly how many babies who have been raped to death… or do you also believe that fathers can’t rape their children the same way you believe husbands can’t rape their wives

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Subarugirl no they classify it as unwanted sexual touching which will still be counted as sexual abuse but much less severe

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Subarugirl it doesn’t matter the point is women get lighther sentences for the same crimes

[Subarugirl]

... that women got 10 years for making false accusations... brock turned got 6 months for raping an unconscious girl... and a 21-year-old life guard to 30 days in jail for sexually abusing 3 minors... you were saying about lighter sentences?

And you are wrong, there is a big difference between rape and unwanted sexual touching. You really need to educate yourself on your country's laws...

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Subarugirl exactly it’s not viewed as rape when women do it and you missed the whole point that she got innocent men convicted off the accusation alone

[Subarugirl]

If it is rape yes, it is.

And that is horrible, but do you have any idea how many people are sexually assaulted where the perpetrator is never caught or brought to justice?

Have you ever been sexually abused?

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Subarugirl no because it’s never reported that’s the only reason any rapist gets away but even when female perpetrators or pedophiles are caught they still get lighter sentences most of them don’t even get jail time because it’s not considered rape it’s a horrible double standard for men just because he is male he must’ve wanted it

That’s how people see female rapist the boy probably loved it he is lucky

Do you have a son? Because this is the world he lives in a woman can falsely accuse him and the accusation alone is enough to ruin his life

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Subarugirl I was actually by an older woman

[Subarugirl]

Women dont perpetrate that ideal men do and it's horrible... women condemn it.

I do have a son, and a husband, and I realize that bad things happen, nothing I can do about that but at least he is more likely to be hit by a meteor that be falsely accused of rape.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Subarugirl there is something you can do and that’s holding those type of women accountable

I know it’s not all women but when we say women need to protect men this is what we mean protect us from women like this by holding them accountable you’d probably kill a woman if you walked in on her with your little boy

[Subarugirl]

I do and so does the law. You speak of oppression, but it was never women who were the oppressors. You're angry at the wrong people.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Subarugirl I never said women were the oppressors just that men are more oppressed

[Subarugirl]

How exactly are men more oppressed than women?

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Subarugirl wait you thought I was saying one gender oppresses the other more? No.

[Subarugirl]

No I wasn't but you are right there at least.

[Rab1901]

In developed countries you can try to make the argument, but overall in the world, absolutely not. I do think the feminist movement at least in the US has become ridiculous though because it's not about equality anymore even though that's the so called definition. It's a lot about nitpicking the bad things because they have so little to complain about. I do think there are a fair share of women who realize that they have it good, but there are still too many women who don't, and it just makes them look bad. I'm not saying men have it better or worse in developed countries. I personally would much rather be a man, but I know there are even women who'd argue they have it better themselves. However, women in the world are definitely more oppressed than men still, and this is what feminists really should be fighting for, not the fact that the air conditioner is catered to men in the workplace and that they're judged harshly for having too much sex. Too much sex is literally bad for you by definition of the word "too"

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Someone already tried to make that argument but in developing countries the standard of living is lower for everyone men, women and children

It’s a matter of government not sex they oppress the people all the people

[A_Nihilist]

I believe that men are more impressed than women in western culture today.

In any given situation if a woman cries wolf for bystanders to see. It is highly likely that they would rush to her aid in defense of the male offender.

If the roles were reversed and a man cried wolf towards a female agressor. Very few would take him seriously, or even go as far as to mock him.

Both sides see oppression, that is a fact.

Women more than likely receive far more domestic abuse and or physical/sexual abuse than men by far.

But oppression is different these days.

Male oppression is being afraid to offer help to a woman who is struggling at the gym in case they start recording and making you out to be a creepy stalker. Just for being friendly. It's offering a simple nod and a smile at a stranger for the sake of being nice. Only to see them clutch their bag, glance away and nervously smile. Because they are just as scared as we are. It's having the fear of approaching someone with the intent of building a relationship with said person, only to be falsely accused of sexual harassment.


Just because the male oppression isn't a physical form, like lesser pay, restrictions on how much we can or can't show of our body in public or how we have to pay for tampons. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Male oppression in my opinion, is the emotional malnutrition state they live and breathe every day due to the way society has built itself.

Oppression of any and all things is bad. But I feel like men's is slightly worse due to the lack of recognition it gets, the lack of acknowledgement it receives.

[genericname85]

they always were. did men ever have the option to stay at home and care for the children? did men ever have the option just not to take part in a war when their country was struggeling? was it ever "men and children first" when a boat sank? men were historically always more opressed. and they historically accepted that out of love for their women. but since women have turned into ungrateful bitches, the oppresion has become even worse.

[Subarugirl]

Wanna talk about the oppression that was happening in 1944, you know when Normandy happened?

If you would really like to talk about historic oppression, we can talk about it.

[genericname85]

tell me what happened in the nomandy. i'm curious to learn new things. i'm not omniscient and my opinions can change, if the facts establish a reality different to my view.

[Subarugirl]

www.history.com/news/d-day-normandy-wwii-facts

you can read all about it, here are a few facts

[genericname85]

@Subarugirl oh sorry. i thoght we were having a conversation. if we just wanna slap sources in each others faces, i can swamp you in literature but i don't think you're interested in that. and neither am i. are we gonna have a conversation or will you just demand me to read sources you're presenting?

[genericname85]

@Subarugirl i skipped through the text and i don't find any connection to the topic of the question asked by the original asker by the way.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

I just challenged her and everyone else to name how many women where on the beaches of Normandy that day

Let this be and example of how desperately women need to be right even when they know they’re wrong she can’t argue with it that’s why she’s bringing up irrelevant links

[genericname85]

Yeah.. ego is a bitch

[Subarugirl]

You know that they literally prevented women from do that right? The US military did not allow women to fight in combat until 2013... Has nothing to do with ego and everything with the leaders of this country preventing women from serving in the same capacity as men.

[genericname85]

@Subarugirl yeah i'm sure they brutally had to force women not to be bloody shot in a war. i bet that was a horrible traumatic experience for women not to be able to die for their country, which they so desparately wanted :D

[genericname85]

@Subarugirl you know male renegades were actually shot to death... and that happens a lot, cause people in general do not want to fight and die in a war. and here you stand saying that women who were "oh so horribly oppressed by not being allowed to die in a war" were oppressed more than men... like not being mad at you or trying to be mean. but wtf man...

[genericname85]

@Subarugirl so what i am saying is: even if you were right, which i don't think, and women actually wanted to die in a war but weren't let to. i think that's still less oppression than men experiendced in war...

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Subarugirl so what’s stopping them from serving now? Why do they only make up such a small percentage? Are you registered in case of a national emergency because I am and so is every other man here the government keeps a list of men at or over the age 18

You’re really embarrassing yourself and exposing yourself as a Hypocrite

[genericname85]

next thing she says is that the nazis in germany were opressed by the jews xD

[Subarugirl]

Actually only about 90% of men are registered. And women can’t register even if they wanted to because the government literally will not let use. We even tried to amend it but the democrats blocked that bill from passing in 2021… you’re a democrat aren’t you? Don’t hear you complaining about that….

[Subarugirl]

@genericname85 do you know anything about history at all?

[PainusNdeeAnus]

@Subarugirl you’re completely missing the fact that you have a choice and we don’t

In a national emergency you and your kids get to flee and your husband, father, uncle, cousins and brothers have to stay and probably die

[genericname85]

90% of men were registred. you know that conscription was a thing right and there was no way to "opt out". you would have to have a medical proof to show that you're unable to server in the military in order to avoid being sent to the front line and die for your country. it was not a voluntary thing for the vast majority of men and here you're saying "women wanted that"... yeah. maybe 0.00001% of them.

so now you're realizing you're wrong and since you don't have any argument, you're now starting the label game where you assign an arbitrary pollitical label to me on invalidate my argument based on that instead of actually invalidating the argument with facts, cause you know you can't do that. i know this fucked up victimization rhetoric.

i'm not gonna tell you what i am and in germany, where i live, we don't use the terms "democrat and repubican" anyway, cause we have more than 2 parties. so go figure that out. that idiotic blaming, victim acting and labeling game doesn't work with me.

[genericname85]

like my grandpa was sent to war in stalingrad to shoot down russians. you think he wanted to do that? you think he would have chosen to go and get ptsd just cause hitler had the great idea to invade russia in winter? you are fucking crazy.

[genericname85]

he was only 16 years old too... what 16 year old man wants to go die in a war? and what woman does?

[genericname85]

you're morbidly twisting the except for women into opression. this way of thinking sickens me...

[genericname85]

exempt for women*

[genericname85]

oh and just by the way: the reason women were not taken to war is cause women are weaker than men and can't withstand the physical strain of war. they would be a burden, that's why they were not taken to war. it were tactical reasons, not a "evil plot to give women an unfair advantage", you sick freak..

[genericname85]

disadvantage*

[genericname85]

man i'm muting this conversation. sorry @painusndeeanus... this faminazi delusional idiocy gets me worked up.

[notwoke]

reasons we should work on equality:

1. 90%+ of military deaths - male

2. 90%+ workplace deaths - male

3. Majority of college grads - female

4. super majority of incarcerated people - male

5. super majority of murder victims - male

6. higher unemployment - male

7. Majority of homeless - male

8. Affirmative action beneficiaries - female

9. Win child custody 90% of the time - female

Yet feminists crying victim and asking for more free rides all the time, fuck women

[MysticDevice]

Here in the west, I think 98% of "oppression" is self perpetuated. Equal rights and equal opportunity has been the law for 60 years now.
(Minus the unconstitutional laws that will strip people of their rights that are in the works.)

Of course this doesn't stop the predjudice of individuals but ultimately the only thing that holds someone back is themselves.

Only in the west do we have celebrities standing on red carpets, before national TV, raking in tens of millions in income, complaining about how they're "oppressed" and the system is rigged against them.

Specifically for the question and from a male's perspective: I do not feel oppressed. However I do feel the need to be more cautious these days because now a simple look in someone's direction and they'll claim sexual harrassment. That I have been accused of, and so have several people I know. It's not true, obviously, but that's what we deal with.

[Exterminatore]

Not more oppressed. Women aren’t oppressed in any modern western industrialized nation and ALL men are.


So men are not MORE oppressed, they’re the only ones oppressed when examining oppression by gender.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

You just opened my eyes to a whole new perspective

[Exterminatore]

Glad I could help!

[snowboarder720]

Seeing that there has never been a law oppressing a man for being a man, the women clearly are more oppressed now and historically.
Women couldn’t even join the military and vote past this decade. Women make up 51% of the population but only 19% of Congress.

[inhua]

that's just pushing for equality of outcome and there's no law that oppresses a woman for being a woman

[snowboarder720]

@inhua historically is the key word.

[inhua]

historically everyone had it bad unless you were royalty. the majority of soldiers forced to die on the battlefield were still men. the majority of slaves forced to build structures like the pyramids were still men. a king can turn a peasant girl's life around completely but a queen would never even dare turn a peasant man's life around. when invaders took over another country, the first thing they did was kill all the men and boys. lack of physicality doesn't prove oppression. weak men would suffer terribly too, worse than women actually because men had to sacrifice themselves for the greater good of the nation which is why we have more female ancestors than male ancestors

[snowboarder720]

😆 soldiers were forced to die because that were their jobs. We aren’t going to agree and I’m not going to see it your way but you may use MY comment section under my opinion to voice it.

[inhua]

job or not the point is women didn't have to die. even today Ukraine is letting their women and children leave while men have to stand and fight for the country. the notion that women were more oppressed than men historically simply isn't true. survival of the fittest has nothing to do with oppression.

[snowboarder720]

You don’t think men are fleeing Ukraine? You don’t think there are kids fighting Ukraine wars too?

[inhua]

those men trying to flee Ukraine are being stopped. kids are rarely out there fighting and they can be lying about their age like they did in WW1

[snowboarder720]

☝️this guy

[Anonymous]

Men have always been more oppressed.

Here's an analogy from Ancient Chinese history.

Every Chinese man was conscripted as soon as he turned 20. But the generals and officers were picked from a group of men who were smart enough to pass an exam. Outside of the school where the boys studied, were brothels.

Society is like this... maybe one out of the ten graduates and goes on to enjoy a luxurious life. Whereas all of the prostitutes are guaranteed something.

Another point to consider is that 5-15% of men to ever live actually had children of their own. Whereas almost all women had children, which is the ultimate privilege in life.

[LiamJHayden]

Government oppresses all of us and then gets us to argue so that we do not see what they are doing.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

You’re not wrong but I think feminism was the main cause of the wedge between men and women

[Anonymous]

I mean I feel like because of the double standards women are more privileged, but tbh everyone is oppressed if your not one of the elites

[PainusNdeeAnus]

You’re not wrong but most people aren’t corrupted and evil enough to become an elite

Those are some of the worst people on the planet actual demons in human skin

[Vaporvan]

If you're thinking of the west, yes. I feel sorry for men living there. Not everywhere though, I don't think

[call_me_scar]

In my state a women can be raped and forced to give birth to the kid so you tell me

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Yes well even if the dad wants to be in the kids life the mother can prevent it
So you tell me

[Asad1ONE1]

Depends on the topic. Women are oppressed in terms of "victim hood". Men are oppressed in terms of there "reputation".

Men have it worse.

[Echosoul]

Depends where you are. In some countries women are practically slaves

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Any country where women are slaves so are men and children

Slavery is illegal in most parts of the world

[msc545]

Hell yes, men are more oppressed.

[LimitedBenefits101]

In the west yes we are

[Anonymous]

The men in these comments live behind there phones. In what world are MEN more oppressed? Men cause their own problems, you run the system.

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Silence woman you are cut off from speaking I am the man and I have dominion over you we run the world OBEY!

[PainusNdeeAnus]

LMFAOAOAOAO

[Opinion Owner]

Exactly, point proven. I wish men were oppressed, I’d abuse tf outta u

[PainusNdeeAnus]

What sorcery is this?
I said silence but she is still speaking some how

Could it be that men have no control over women

[Opinion Owner]

Okay buddy say that to the woman in other countries who aren’t allowed an education, not allowed to drive, not allowed to work. Ur full of yourself grow the fuck up

[PainusNdeeAnus]

Right you do realize those laws were made to protect women right? Who needs to drive and work when you are living like a princess in a palace in Qatar what are you afraid of chores oh no Laundry and Cooking THE HORROR! These women live very privileged lives and they’d be greatly offended by you assuming they’re uneducated

[Opinion Owner]

I’m not ever going to bother after what you just said. You were definitely dropped on the head a little too much…

[SpokenTruth]

Men are the oppressed.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Yup.

[handsomeblackoutlaw]

You've OBVIOUSLY never been a black man.