What age do women realize that men don't bust their ass to settle for one woman?

[Vegasrunner]

I understand why girls 18-24 would think this but at what age do they start to grasp this concept?

[madhatters4]

i think the issue you have here is you are asserting ALL men feel the same way. i'm a one woman man. i bust my ass to be a great husband, father, employee, friend, etc.

so women have to realize that a man isn't going to bust their ass to settle for one woman on a case by case basis. which means you can't place an age on it. some women may never encounter a guy who isn't going to settle for one woman. some women may only meet men who won't settle for one woman

[modeunae]

True, but facts remain facts and generalisations are largely based on facts; in fact-- should be strictly based on facts, but they aren't always.

[HappyWoman34]

@modeunae why don’t we agree to disagree and leave it at that? I get plenty of offers of dating and sex from men my own age, which is the only age that interests me these days.

[modeunae]

@HappyWoman34 What'd you mean by 'Why don’t we agree to disagree and leave it at that?'?

[HappyWoman34]

@modeunae exactly what I said. We’re never going to agree with each other on this, so why argue?

[modeunae]

@HappyWoman34 You jumped all the way from down there, where we were talking, to come find me up here? Woman-- are you serious? If you don't agree with the truth, just stop replying to me. I don't know why you're doing cross-country from down there to up here, to make "a point".

[HappyWoman34]

@modeunae whatever

[modeunae]

Usually, when the 'hit the wall' at 30. When they realise they aren't getting the attention they used to get in their lovely prime, in their attractive youth-- it's like an explosion in the mind. They realise: "Wait-- I'm not getting the attention I used to get anymore. Does that mean I'm not pretty like I used to be? Does that mean my value has gone down? Shit... I should've listened... But FUCK it. I'm a boss bitch! I'm sexy! I'm cute! I'm all that!... Right, ladies?" Not 'Right, guys?' Because they know if they ask guys-- they'll get the truth on a silver platter.

Women like @happywoman34 are just old which is why they use shaming tactics.

[HappyWoman34]

Calm down, mate.

[HappyWoman34]

To a child, barely out of high school, all real adults seem old.

[modeunae]

@HappyWoman34 To a woman over her 20s, whatever you have to say it quite irrelevant. Which woman in her 30s will say: "Yes, we've hit the wall and for those of us that didn't do better-- we should've"? Which oldie will say that?

[HappyWoman34]

Whatever.

[modeunae]

@HappyWoman34 Jaaa... You passed your prime and every other woman your age has, too. Just accept it.

[HappyWoman34]

I’m not agreeing with you. I just think that your opinion isn’t worthy of my time or comment.

[modeunae]

@HappyWoman34 But you commented anyway? You took time out of your day to comment, anyway? Yeaa. Rrright. Also-- I didn't assume you agreed with me, I was simply saying you should accept it, because it's the truth and you know it. You probably won't respond to this comment as some sort fo "comeback", but we both know I speak the truth.

[HappyWoman34]

Because I was bored and had nothing better to do at the time.

[modeunae]

@HappyWoman34 You still did it anyway, proving me as worthy of not only your comment, BUT your time. You've even done it now. Record time of 17 minutes and a few seconds. You're on a new level. You must like me or something.

[HappyWoman34]

I’m not worried about younger men’s opinions. I get plenty of positive attention from men my own age, which is all I want.

[HappyWoman34]

Although I also get attention from men and women younger than yourself. Which I find a bit creepy. At my age.

[modeunae]

@HappyWoman34 Nice 👍🏽👍🏽 You get attention from not only men my age but also women? 🤯😲🤯

Woman-- I don't care who you *allegedly* get attention from.

[HappyWoman34]

Well, I don’t care about your opinion. However, my experience only proves your statement to be wrong. Son.

[WhitneySnow]

Most men don’t cheat. Only a very few entitled rich guys do that. And they don’t understand that all the girls they date just want their money (or, more charitably, the glamorous lifestyle they provide). Either that or they are very superficial and just don’t care.

[HaleyCatgirl]

I will tend to disagree on this considering I know some friends are really pussies their weakness to sum it up and I have to slap them around a bit so that way they don't cheat on my friend but I do have to agree with what you said as well but adding mine on top of that

[Vegasrunner]

@WhitneySnow Most men can't cheat, that's why I posed the question. At 17 it's still acceptable for you to live in delusion, however at what age do women realize that those "rich guys" had to work really hard to get rich and they're not doing that to be stuck w/ one women. You're not going to be able to answer this at your age but the question is more about what age you realize they do?

[Vegasrunner]

@HaleyCatgirl If they're allowing someone who doesn't know what it takes to attract a woman as a man then you're correct your friends are pussies.

[HaleyCatgirl]

I want to call them pussies cuz I don't like to be mean but I also wouldn't disagree with you to be honest

[HappyWoman34]

The right man will bust his ass to settle down with the right woman. That’s not the same as settling for someone. That’s how people get married and start families.

[Vegasrunner]

@happywoman34 That's simply another female shaming tactic. By saying "the right man" it empties that something is wrong w/ a man for wanting what men naturally want. Women are the ones that seek security for the best man. Men want as many women as the can attract. Are you familiar w/ the saying women want everything from one guy, men want one thing from every woman?

[HappyWoman34]

That’s a generalisation.

[wolfcat87]

This guy is an incel troll. He attacks any woman for saying anything that doesn't fit his preconceived bias. Sir, only nasty men want any woman they can attract. That's gross. Most men have standards just like most women do. And, no woman is wrong for not wanting you. She said the right man, and she meant it. The right man will do exactly that. Just because you won't doesn't mean other men we prefer won't happily do it.

[HappyWoman34]

@wolfcat87 well said 😊💯💯

[modeunae]

Yes, because if we speak from the perspective of the 1 out of 1000s-- we'll never get anywhere. Men want what men want, which is multiple women, and women want what women want, which is security.

[wolfcat87]

@modeunae As you got angry that I'm a woman with multiple men... Which clearly proves you wrong. Oh, the irony.

[modeunae]

@wolfcat87 Woman-- you're a whore. Just shush and go back to taking two dicks at a time.

[wolfcat87]

@modeunae Someone is too dumb to know what a whore is. 😆 Get a dictionary. We also both know I'm getting more out of life than someone as sad and pathetic as you.

[modeunae]

@wolfcat87 You don't even know me to know my quality of life, but what I do know is you're a whore by virtue of taking two dicks at a time. I don't care whether it's in a relationship or not. Just accept your title.

[wolfcat87]

I mean, I have two husbands, I'm older than 24, they bust their asses, and I'm one woman. So, this seems like a you issue and not a men issue. Most men aren't cheating, and most men get married and settle by the age of 27.

[Vegasrunner]

@wolfcat87 Most men can't cheat. I'm speaking about HV men who have earned the ability to have multiple women.

[wolfcat87]

If men have penises, they can cheat. They just choose not to. No one earns the ability to have multiple women. That's not how it works. I didn't "earn" the ability to have multiple husbands. I just respected my partners and communicated my needs. My first husband has had many women interested, and he could have chosen to cheat. He's very monogamous though. My second was open for a bit and decided other women are meh.

[Vegasrunner]

@wolfcat87 TY for this, as this statement illustrates that females don't understand what it takes to be successful w/ women as a man. You are correct, you didn't earn anything, as women are born w/ their value. Men have to work to earn their value. If "respect" and "communication" was all it took to get woman, 1/3 of men would not claim to be virgins or not had sex within the last year. Your antedoctal evidence while not relevant does help validate my point.

[wolfcat87]

Less than 2% of men are virgins by the age of 30. That's means all are capable of getting sex. Worst case scenario they can hire a prostitute. So, every man is capable of cheating. If they can get laid once, they can do it again obviously. Within the past year is irrelevant.

[Vegasrunner]

@wolfcat87 Now I understand your confusion. Actually the number of men under 30 that are virgins or haven't had sex in under a year is about 33% Prostitution is illegal in every county except 1 in the US so that's not a practical option, and it also validates NY point because if a man has to get a prostitute he hasn't generated enough value in himself.

[wolfcat87]

You can't combine those stats. The number who are virgins is under 2%. The number who have not had sex in the past year is closer to 27%. I just quoted the study last night.

Paying a prostitute is showing value with money. Wealthy men do it all the time.

[Vegasrunner]

@wolfcat87 I'm not sure what you're referring to however those are the numbers do w/ them what you like. A guy going a year w/out getting laid is looked upon by other men as a loser the same way a virgin is. If you have to pay a women to have sex w/ you it shows that you lack value. As a "wealthy" man w/ wealthy friends I can tell you that most men w/ money don't pay for prostitutes because there is to much risk in it. Besides why would I we have to pay for a prostitute when you could spend that same money on a regular girl that will appreciate it more?

[wolfcat87]

datepsychology.com/.../

Most men don't really care what other men are doing in bed. High value men aren't having sex just to impress other people or to meet a yearly quota. That's some sad, insecure behavior... which is low value. Of course they don't hire "prostitutes". They hire escorts or pay/bribe regular women. That's still prostitution!

[007Bond]

Vegasrunner you are a total fool to be honest.

[Vegasrunner]

@wolfcat87 That's an odd statement considering it has nothing to do w/ the question and that there's no way you can know what men care about. However the shaming tactics are present again as words like HV, sad and insecure are standard buzzwords women use in an attempt to shame men for having standards. Again most rich men don't hire escorts, that's a myth you've been trained to believe, so you can ignore the fact that women are attracted to status and money.

[wolfcat87]

Oh the hypocrisy, "Most men can't cheat. I'm speaking about HV men who have earned the ability to have multiple women." Don't bring up buzzwords you don't want used. Sad and insecure are just accurate assessments.

I never said most rich men hire escorts. Most rich men are married.

So many mental gymnastics and so many red herrings...

Everyone likes money, but women rarely pick money over someone they actually like. That's why most poor men are married. So, as you stated, "that's a myth you've been trained to believe".

I now what men care about from being married to men and talking to men in a therapeutic fashion as part of my job and as a friend to many. Something you don't seem to do with many men or women.

[Vegasrunner]

@007Bond TY for sharing that. I understand how hearing information that contradicts your narrative can be emotionally triggering.

[Vegasrunner]

@wolfcat87 Actually "sad and insecure" are shaming tactics women and beta males uses to try to force HV men into compliance. I know this because of my personal and professional experience. When women don't like something they will attempt to use shame as an argument. Average men don't understand this because they haven't been through enough women to see it playout. Most rich men, have a main chick, a side chic and a mistress. I kmow this because besides from being rich, all of my friends are as well. It is not uncommon for us to take trips and bring one of those 3. When you have money don't really need to hire an escort because women are naturally attracted tp money power and success. Don't be ashamed by your mental gymnastics as its a common female trait. So when you're a HV man you do the picking, women tend to settle a lot after they realize a HV man isn't ever going to commit to them. You just claimed both most rich and poor men are married, do you not see the contradiction? You may know what 1 man cares about but not men in general. This is a mistake many women make. How many men were you married too and why are I still not married now? If we're using anecdotal evidence, I've slept w/ 100's of women and was one of the largest promoters in LV spending my days talking w/ 10's of thousands of women, so how does that compare against your handful of conversations?

[modeunae]

That's disgusting. You have two husbands? Ew.

[wolfcat87]

The guy posting after you just proved that it's a male tactic as well by your own logic of how communication works.

[On_cloud_wine]

When you find your twin flame or soul mate, no one but that one person matters. If you live on the dark side, I suppose it would be difficult to grasp, but you’ll never truly be happy and content.

[Vegasrunner]

@on_cloud_wine That's a female metric, I'm speaking about male perspectives.

[On_cloud_wine]

It depends on his lifestyle and how close to god he is.

[Vegasrunner]

@on_cloud_wine Lol, that's simply another deflection designed to shame men into looking at relationships from female metrics.

[On_cloud_wine]

You don’t understand

[Vegasrunner]

@on_cloud_wine I've been w/ 100's of women of course I understand, which is why I'm able to identify and label it accurately as a shaming tactic.

[On_cloud_wine]

Well the majority of the world is going to hell so that makes sense.. you’re attracted to your own kind

[On_cloud_wine]

You only waist your energy to people who are similar to you

[Vegasrunner]

@on_cloud_wine I see your confusion now. The goal for men is to make their kind become attracted to them.

[Vegasrunner]

@on_cloud_wineb You should only give your energy to those thst deserve it.

[modeunae]

"TwIn FlAMe!!!", "SoUL mATe!!!"

Man 🤣🤣 Ladies are always talking shit 🤣🤣

[Vegasrunner]

@modeunae Lol, it's only because they are in a privileged position. Since men approach women, women don't have to concentrate on what attracts men, thos allows them to dream and create more complicated metrics.

[modeunae]

That woman, @on_cloud_wine is just crazy and out of her mind. Christian women use this as a tactic to shame men for moving in accordance with their God-given biology and knowing who they are; knowing their value. She should just shush and stay within her jurisdiction, which is the kitchen.

[Anonymous]

They don’t. Most men would cheat if they had the resources, the finances, the looks, but they can’t because they’re limited by their options.

[caitycat21]

You’re pushing 50, no 18-25 is checking for you sir 😂

[Vegasrunner]

@caitycat21 TY for sharing this unfortunately I'm not sure what this has to do w/ this conversation are you sure you tagged the correct person.

[Billlewis]

I always bust my ass to please the female, no matter how mean and cruel she is to me.

[modeunae]

Simp.

[Billlewis]

@modeunae Yes, Sir, thank you very much for your very accurate assessment.

[modeunae]

You're welcome.

[Anonymous]

But we do bust our asses for the RIGHT woman. There just are fewer and fewer RIGHT women these days.

[modeunae]

'You' do that, not 'we'.

[Opinion Owner]

@modeunae I represent 'we' as much as you do, probably more.

[modeunae]

Where was I talking about me representing 'we'? Did you read what I said?

[Slim57]

Yeah we do lol