In my parents and grandparents' days, no. But in today's Feminist, Social Justice and Me Too cultural scene, the social, legal and financial risks to men have become unacceptably high, except in the repugnant Hook Up culture. Too many women today have become angry, predatory and vicious, because the culture has handed them a bad deal.
So they get desperate and give themselves away on the first date (multiple times); often with no second date to follow; instilling even more resentment, do without or flip over to other women. They are denied the opportunity to become "Trad Wives", which so many dreamt about in the past, rejecting it, because it is not trendy.
Ironically, women of the Victorian era and early 20th century had a novel approach. The called it "dropping the Handkerchief". At a Ball or Cotillion, ladies would simply drop their Hankie at the feet of a favored man as they walked by him with a friend and then sit down as wait for him to ask them to dance. Of course, he would pick it up and would do so, and of course she would accept. No tension. Just messaging.
You can do the same thing for any guy who interests you. Even out of the blue. You can print your number on a sticky note, walk up to him and say: "Maybe you can buy me a coffee sometime and we can get to know each other". And press it into his hand. He never has to call and you never have to expect it. No tension, no sex, no expense, no risk. Just messaging. If that had happened to me, I would have welcomed it.
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+1 yDepends..
You don't have to, guys will come to you.
But you won't have say on who comes up, you'll be served those who dares to try and those who excells at that are the ones who will always have options beside you.
I'm not saying they're all crap, just that chances are higher.
If you want to feel powerful and independant, you got to make your own decisions about what decisions are available.
Most men are scared shitless the first times they approach, if they're at all understanding they'll respect your effort.
But most of all if you try, try and try again despite the fear.. you'll be stronger and on a good path. You'll thank yourself down the line.
If this is just a text..
You just press send and be natural about it.
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+1 yI think that if you're interested in the person, go introduce yourself and get to know them. Show actual interest in them. Who cares. Most guys are turned on by that because it shows how confident she is. But most guys are turned off because of different factors. But you don't want those types of guys anyways, right?
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+1 yYes they should. If he likes you, he will love it. Just play it cool and make conversation, treat him like a friend in your texting with him. If he doesn't like you or doesn't show interest, you wouldn't have acted desperate and at least you tried.
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+1 yWell you are at least 30 so don’t be.
Men still do most of the reaching out but some us have gotten so jaded by the confusing landscape and pítfalls that we are giving up unless we know for sure the girl is interested. An we don’t nor ever will be able to read a woman’s mind.
All you have to do is say hello to him and start a simple conversation. It will make it less guesswork for him and also make him more comfortable asking for a date. But you have to let him straight up know that you are interested. Just texting him hello and asking about his day is not “desperate” in any stretch of the imagination.
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For what exactly, if it's about women issues no, if it's about family issues, no, if it's about homework and you have same class, maybe depends on what his grades are like, if it's about wanting to get with him and your certain he's worth you and feeling is mutual but your both just too shy to make first move then, yes if you sure it's mutual and only shy ness is barrier, but only you know what you want to reach out for first kinda sorta wasn't too clear on what your reaching out for hand shake or bite of his burger or his wallet I don't know but you do
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+1 yIf you're interested in someone you should reach out. It really is that simple. Most girls just expect or hope to be approached by a guy they're interested in and the guy would be oblivious until he's gone and nothing will ever happen. Take life into your own hands. What's the worst that could happen? They say they're not interested? Even if they tell you to fuck off, it just means you dodged a bullet. But most guys are very receptive to being hit on.
10 Reply674 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. It has always been that way, since the dawn of time.
Girls always made the first move, by doing something that gives guys opportunity!..
- drops her handkerchief.
- Goes out to buy groceries and flowers, to worship, to get water etc.
- Even in the past Girls did activities and other stuff, to give guys an opportunity, like sewing or knitting, an excuse for guys, "I tore my shirt or pants." can you sew and repair it?
- Why are you scared?
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+1 yIf you want to sure. The whole "worst they'll say is no" used to be what we said to guys but women very quickly made sure they were being extremely disrespectful instead of saying no. So it now applies more to ladies because most guys will in fact let you down gently if not interested.
00 ReplyWell everyone should or could do it. I myself would like being asked out. But also I don't want to end up rejecting some one if Im not interested back. I know from experience. It sucks, it is scary. So that would be a real mood and confidence booster if I had been asked out by a crush or what not.
00 Reply311 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. It is not just guys… if you want something in life then don’t wait for it to come to you. Don’t be two ships passing in the night….
He may be a little scared too and the reason he hasn’t said anything to you. Talk to him, ask him to hangout a little while.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yIf they know what they want and don't want to waste time. Women are Notorious for being subtle. So subtle in fact that no one except her knows she has any interest in him at all. Guys cannot read minds.
Look at it this way. The worst he can say is no.
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+1 yIf they have enough confidence to do so, why not?
In fact, when I was younger, I asked myself: "Who said I shouldn't?"
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+1 yIf you want someone. Yes. I say the same for both genders. If you wait…. You’ll probably see them with someone else
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@Tharithi if you want a man. Show effort. The type of men who won’t take no for a answer. Aren’t the men you want pursuing you.
Men and women both… Want someone who is genuinely into them. If they get rejected or someone strings them along. They just will find someone they know likes them back - +1 y
If I show interest in someone and I don’t get interest back. There is women who will show interest. The same as if a woman shows interest in me and I like her. I will show it back.
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@BoopBoopBeep BOOM! Hit the nail on the head. Showing interest in someone you like is good. But it’s a two way street.
The men who will keep pursuing will be the type of men they don’t want. Because men who are attractive have options. They have women who will even go as far to make the first move and women who won’t play games. - +1 y
And if a individual like that thinks calling men names will make them want her more. She’s wrong…
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@summeroflove 2-wat street 100%. If interest isn't returned in ten minutes I'm moving along. I've had three women ask for my phone number in the same 15 minute conversation, my PR is 8 in a weekend (3-day). These women actually did bring some unique things to the table and they still knew to make their wishes known with me. Half the women complaining about not getting chased bring nothing to the table and are really just mad that they aren't getting more attention than the other women they see, who they perceive to be lesser women. Well those women showed initiative, and that's why they are where they are.
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@BoopBoopBeep yes! Oh my gosh! The part about bringing nothing to the table is spot on. Men with options don’t want that.
If all they have to offer is sex. They will only attract men who just want sex.
The men who do pursue them aren’t the type of men they want. Because well frankly they can’t find anyone. - +1 y
@BoopBoopBeep yeah. For sure. They’re jealous. There is a lot of amazing women who have a lot to offer. The same as there is a lot of amazing men out there.
A lot of these women are sexists. Because they’re bitter. Nobody decent wants them. It’s the same way men become incels. - +1 y
@summeroflove What they don't get is "if all you have to offer is sex" then you have nothing to offer. As the saying goes, you can't swing a dead rat without hitting a woman wanting to swap fluids and get her stress out. I've spent a lot of my career in extremely high stress environments. Nobody has time for BS, but "I want to F tonight" is a common vibe. Why would I crawl through broken glass for someone with an inflated sense of self for sex when it's something that's literally easier to find than a dollar on the street? Coins, sure, I mean an actual dollar bill. Her "sexual availability" is less rare than $1, and what can we buy with that?
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@BoopBoopBeep yeah. That’s true as well. The thing is. These women live this fantasy. They think tbis handsome amazing man that will do anything for them and sweep them off their feet. That they’re gonna give 120 percent of themselves to her and she doesn’t have to give anything in return.
In real life. No man with self respect and has options wants that. - +1 y
@BoopBoopBeep the point about sex is also true. There are men though who do take women on expensive dates to get sex.
But like I said. Those are mostly men who aren’t able to get sex easily. They’re usually not the type of men they want anyways. But hey they get a free meal.
Me personally. I don’t like having sex outside marriage. If I wanted to I could. But I have more respect for myself and future partner then that - +1 y
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One day reality is going to come crashing down on them. It's going to be rough... - +1 y
@BoopBoopBeep I think many times it already has. Which is why they are so bitter. But it only gets worse as life goes on. If they don’t grow up
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yIt depends, really. Typically it's best for them to give "green lights" to the guy to approach her. But if that doesn't work and if she REALLY wants the guy, she'll have to approach. For a lot of girls though, their desire for a guy IS influenced by 1) whether or not he wants them enough to approach, and 2) whether or not they have the BALLS to approach. And that makes sense. Because an uninterested guy or a dude with no balls is pretty useless to most girls.
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+1 yWhy not… let’s be honest. Girls can drop hints that they are interested but most the time guys are too stupid to see them. So it’s smart for the girl to reach out first.
10 ReplyThis is varying from region to region, i. e I am from Pakistan here we see mostly male dominance,80% of the don't approach but in india being in East there girls are way more approaching than Pakistan. If we extend a word about western region they are so approaching.
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+1 yI don’t see why not. As women, we’re pursued all the time. Men aren’t accustomed to it so it’s nice to give that back every now and then.
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+1 yIf you like him, go up and ask him. Better to know than not know. And it's completely OK for a woman to ask first.
10 Reply371 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Absolutely, the chance of getting him are much higher and guys are kind rejectors.
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Yes, back in the day it was usually the guy that reached out to girls first but these days are way different. Men are scared and not just from rejection but from a bunch of stuff like being accused of sexual assault or sexual harassment for example.
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not sure what you're afraid of. just do it. you're making this out to be more serious than it actually is lol
00 ReplyJust text him about casual things and see how things go. If he is interested he will get the hint and ask you out.
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+1 yThere’s no reason why you shouldn’t. Don’t be scared. He won’t be mean to you even if he doesn’t like you that way.
00 Reply 2.6K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Their is no issue in 2023 if a girl reaches out first
00 ReplyTalk to him ask him questions. Say theoritical scenarios of engagement. What is his financial portfolio look like. Any ambitions any decisions made? Any loose children? etc.
00 ReplyIt is perfectly fine for you reach out to a guy first. If He appears to have good character, then you might get yourself a really good guy.
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+1 yYes. Do it. Many very shy, nervous, and timid guys who you might otherwise never get to be around would very much appreciate that.
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+1 yI think girls should reach out equally as guys do, and every relationship is different too. Probably whoever the less shy one in that dynamic is
00 ReplySure if you feel strongly about someone then you should otherwise you will feel regret for the missed opportunity.
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+1 yAre you asking us to tell grown women what they should or shouldn't do?
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+1 yThere's nothing wrong with it if she does. Go for it. I doubt he'd turn you down
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+1 yI have a lady who always reaches out to me if she needs help. I see no problem
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+1 yReminds me of a popular image meme that makes me very mad and annoyed
00 Reply Absolutely some guys are just shy or they are clueless
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I believe girls and guys are equal. So either one can reach out first.
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333 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Maybe we should just reintroduce dropping handkerchiefs.
00 ReplyYes, I hate it that us guys have to be the one that make the first move always
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+1 y😬😬 naaahhh if he doesn't call or text then that let's u know he doesn't like u
00 ReplyI think you already know that answer. Doesn't attraction and chemistry do that anyhow?
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+1 yif he likes you go for it and stop making us do that
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yeah go on
Why are you scared? You can reach out to us. I would like that
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+1 yI would like it. I hopeless at picking up que's
00 Reply869 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Yes if they're interested and the guy doesn't reach out first
00 ReplyYeah as long as you dont come across as offensive or rude. Try do it in a delicate manner.
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20 ReplyYes, if she likes him, why not?
20 ReplyOf course not
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+1 yI wish they would 😅😊
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If the right woman ♀️ lol 😆🤣 to add to complexity... attraction and interest sure are fickle, picky, fussy things. No wonder women dislike being flirted by guys they "aren't attracted to" versus "guys they like who won't flirt with them" lol 😊😉
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+1 yI don't believe there's a downside to it
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+1 yI feel like I know who this is.. 🤔😂..
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yYes, you lose every shot you don't take
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+1 yBoth should feel free to.
00 Reply Yes, they are just as scared as you.
00 ReplyDon't let your dreams be dreams lol..
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+1 yMost guys would really like that. :)
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+1 yNothing ventured, nothing gained.
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+1 yHe doesn't like u. Jesus christ are u retarded
00 Reply844 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. If we want the species to survive
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+1 ySure. Can't hurt to try.
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00 Reply659 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. ABSOLUTELY
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+1 yHow are you 30-35 years old?
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